Hello,
In one of Robin Porter's (AMS Neve engineer) tutorials on the BCM10/MK2 he mentions a cut button. Not a low cut, but a cut button.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gsGV9j7pSA
Would someone please help this notalentwannabee understand what it does?
Thanks,
Robert
Judging by its position and color, and proximity to the solo button,
I'd have to conclude he's talking about what we more commonly call a 'mute' button,
or one that effectively stops the signal from continuing through the channel strip.
Used in conjunction with the solo button, it can be used to isolate parts of the mix to highlight problems.
On Aug 17, 2022 at 10:30:35 CDT, "Tobiah" <toby@tobiah.org> wrote:
Judging by its position and color, and proximity to the solo button,
I'd have to conclude he's talking about what we more commonly call a 'mute' >> button,
or one that effectively stops the signal from continuing through the channel >> strip.
Used in conjunction with the solo button, it can be used to isolate parts of >> the mix to highlight problems.
That's what I was guessing. Sometimes we have to translate the Queen's English >into whatever it is that most of speak on this side of the pond.
The difference between faders and sliders is still unknown.
--scott
INFOHOU <infohou@notgonnatellya.com> wrote:
The desk has cut and solo buttons and valves.
The console has mute and PFL buttons and tubes.
The difference between faders and sliders is still unknown.
--scott
On 17/08/2022 18:35, Scott Dorsey wrote:
The difference between faders and sliders is still unknown.Proper faders as used many years ago had a resistor ladder, a series of
--scott
fixed contacts and a moving contact? They reduced the signal in a series
of fixed ratios. Sliders have a resistive strip and a contact on a knob
that slides along a guide strip?
In context though, he seems to be using "slider" to mean the bit that controls the fader. It took me a while to work out that in this case,
what I initially heard as "door" is actually DAW, though.
The cut buttons I heard him mention and saw him demonstrate are used as
a hard cut (or mute)on the feed from that channel to each of the two cue buses. There is also a cross fader if you just want to vary the relative levels of the feeds rather than mute them completely.
On Aug 17, 2022 at 10:30:35 CDT, "Tobiah" <toby@tobiah.org> wrote:
Judging by its position and color, and proximity to the solo button,
I'd have to conclude he's talking about what we more commonly call a 'mute' >> button,
or one that effectively stops the signal from continuing through the channel >> strip.
Used in conjunction with the solo button, it can be used to isolate parts of >> the mix to highlight problems.
That's what I was guessing. Sometimes we have to translate the Queen's English
into whatever it is that most of speak on this side of the pond.
Thanks for your reply,
Robert
On 17/08/2022 18:35, Scott Dorsey wrote:
The difference between faders and sliders is still unknown.Proper faders as used many years ago had a resistor ladder, a series of
--scott
fixed contacts and a moving contact? They reduced the signal in a series
of fixed ratios. Sliders have a resistive strip and a contact on a knob
that slides along a guide strip?
The common US mispronunciation of route (mis)pron. "rowt" is to mill
the edge of a piece of wood (or other material) to a particular shape
with a rotary tool and whatever-shaped bit.
The common US mispronunciation of route (mis)pron. "rowt" is to mill
the edge of a piece of wood (or other material) to a particular shape
with a rotary tool and whatever-shaped bit.
I think 'root' is dying out in the US. For me, it's always 'rowt'. "Take the scenic rowt".
I would never say 'root', and I never hear it in California. The thing that >directs network traffic, a router, is pronounced 'rowter'. People would >scarcely know what you were referring to if you said 'rooter'. Rooter is
the thing the guy puts down a clogged drain.
Symptomatic of the degeneration of the American language. MostTo which, in my mind, I always add "But it's too much effort."
Americans now could not identify, let alone use an adverb. Sayings
that once had meaning are rendered gibberish because nobody actually understands meanings. That is how we get such nonsense as "I could
care less"
On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 07:32:31 -0700, Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> wrote:
Symptomatic of the degeneration of the American language. Most
The common US mispronunciation of route (mis)pron. "rowt" is to mill
the edge of a piece of wood (or other material) to a particular shape
with a rotary tool and whatever-shaped bit.
I think 'root' is dying out in the US. For me, it's always 'rowt'. "Take the scenic rowt".
I would never say 'root', and I never hear it in California. The thing that >> directs network traffic, a router, is pronounced 'rowter'. People would
scarcely know what you were referring to if you said 'rooter'. Rooter is
the thing the guy puts down a clogged drain.
Americans now could not identify, let alone use an adverb.
On 8/18/22 08:03, Don Pearce wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 07:32:31 -0700, Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> wrote:
Symptomatic of the degeneration of the American language. Most
The common US mispronunciation of route (mis)pron. "rowt" is to mill
the edge of a piece of wood (or other material) to a particular shape
with a rotary tool and whatever-shaped bit.
I think 'root' is dying out in the US. For me, it's always 'rowt'. "Take the scenic rowt".
I would never say 'root', and I never hear it in California. The thing that
directs network traffic, a router, is pronounced 'rowter'. People would >>> scarcely know what you were referring to if you said 'rooter'. Rooter is >>> the thing the guy puts down a clogged drain.
Americans now could not identify, let alone use an adverb.
Not so. For instance, I know of 'pedantically' :)
_______The common US mispronunciation of route (mis)pron. "rowt" is to millI think 'root' is dying out in the US. For me, it's always 'rowt'. "Take the scenic rowt".
the edge of a piece of wood (or other material) to a particular shape
with a rotary tool and whatever-shaped bit.
I would never say 'root', and I never hear it in California. The thing that directs network traffic, a router, is pronounced 'rowter'. People would scarcely know what you were referring to if you said 'rooter'. Rooter is
the thing the guy puts down a clogged drain.
The common US mispronunciation of route (mis)pron. "rowt" is to mill
the edge of a piece of wood (or other material) to a particular shape
with a rotary tool and whatever-shaped bit.
I think 'root' is dying out in the US. For me, it's always 'rowt'.
"Take the scenic rowt".
I would never say 'root', and I never hear it in California. The thing
that
directs network traffic, a router, is pronounced 'rowter'. People would scarcely know what you were referring to if you said 'rooter'. Rooter is the thing the guy puts down a clogged drain.
On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 07:32:31 -0700, Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> wrote:
Symptomatic of the degeneration of the American language. Most
The common US mispronunciation of route (mis)pron. "rowt" is to mill
the edge of a piece of wood (or other material) to a particular shape
with a rotary tool and whatever-shaped bit.
I think 'root' is dying out in the US. For me, it's always 'rowt'. "Take the scenic rowt".
I would never say 'root', and I never hear it in California. The thing that >> directs network traffic, a router, is pronounced 'rowter'. People would
scarcely know what you were referring to if you said 'rooter'. Rooter is
the thing the guy puts down a clogged drain.
Americans now could not identify, let alone use an adverb. Sayings
that once had meaning are rendered gibberish because nobody actually understands meanings. That is how we get such nonsense as "I could
care less" and "hold down the fort". Words have become mere noises you
make with your mouth.
d
On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-4, Tobiah wrote:
_______The common US mispronunciation of route (mis)pron. "rowt" is to millI think 'root' is dying out in the US. For me, it's always 'rowt'. "Take the scenic rowt".
the edge of a piece of wood (or other material) to a particular shape
with a rotary tool and whatever-shaped bit.
I would never say 'root', and I never hear it in California. The thing that >> directs network traffic, a router, is pronounced 'rowter'. People would
scarcely know what you were referring to if you said 'rooter'. Rooter is
the thing the guy puts down a clogged drain.
I'm from the States, yet I pronounce Route as 'root', and I pronounce
both Rs in the month of FeBREWary.
I also pronounce Chernobyl power plant's category as NEW-CLEAR,
despite my being from America!
On 19/08/2022 8:59 am, Chris K-Man wrote:_____
On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-4, Tobiah wrote:
_______The common US mispronunciation of route (mis)pron. "rowt" is to millI think 'root' is dying out in the US. For me, it's always 'rowt'. "Take the scenic rowt".
the edge of a piece of wood (or other material) to a particular shape
with a rotary tool and whatever-shaped bit.
I would never say 'root', and I never hear it in California. The thing that
directs network traffic, a router, is pronounced 'rowter'. People would
scarcely know what you were referring to if you said 'rooter'. Rooter is >> the thing the guy puts down a clogged drain.
I'm from the States, yet I pronounce Route as 'root', and I pronounce
both Rs in the month of FeBREWary.
I also pronounce Chernobyl power plant's category as NEW-CLEAR,Good to see you having a good grasp on this.
despite my being from America!
Remember Dubya's "new-killer' ;- )
geoff
On 19/08/2022 2:32 am, Tobiah wrote:
The common US mispronunciation of route (mis)pron. "rowt" is to mill
the edge of a piece of wood (or other material) to a particular shape
with a rotary tool and whatever-shaped bit.
I think 'root' is dying out in the US. For me, it's always 'rowt'.
"Take the scenic rowt".
I would never say 'root', and I never hear it in California. The
thing that
directs network traffic, a router, is pronounced 'rowter'. People would
scarcely know what you were referring to if you said 'rooter'. Rooter is >> the thing the guy puts down a clogged drain.
Router normally mispronounced everywhere now.
And a rooter is somebody actively enthusiastic in partaking in sexual intercourse.
Oh yeah, and the the tool and action for the milling thing is spelt router/rout.
And now 'tool'. Pronunciation universal, but several alternate meanings including as a verb in using a tool or equipment to machine a piece of material, and as a noun for a dickhead (person), or a penis. Not sure
how those meanings travel ...
geoff
Regrettably, "new-killer" is the defacto Yankee pronounciation
of the thing.. And our esteemed Merriam-Webster Dick-shunairy
actually allows for both pronunciations!
After all Geoff: the U.S. itself was founded on the premise of doing things "our way, fuck the rest of the world"...!
On 18/08/2022 23:06, Chris K-Man wrote:____________
Regrettably, "new-killer" is the defacto Yankee pronounciation
of the thing.. And our esteemed Merriam-Webster Dick-shunairy
actually allows for both pronunciations!
After all Geoff: the U.S. itself was founded on the premise of doing
things "our way, fuck the rest of the world"...!
Over here, it seem so be noo-cue-la.
--
Tciao for Now!
John.
On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-4, Tobiah wrote:
_______The common US mispronunciation of route (mis)pron. "rowt" is to millI think 'root' is dying out in the US. For me, it's always 'rowt'. "Take the scenic rowt".
the edge of a piece of wood (or other material) to a particular shape
with a rotary tool and whatever-shaped bit.
I would never say 'root', and I never hear it in California. The thing that >> directs network traffic, a router, is pronounced 'rowter'. People would
scarcely know what you were referring to if you said 'rooter'. Rooter is
the thing the guy puts down a clogged drain.
I'm from the States, yet I pronounce Route as 'root', and I pronounce
both Rs in the month of FeBREWary.
I also pronounce Chernobyl power plant's category as NEW-CLEAR,
despite my being from America!
Router normally mispronounced everywhere now.
geoff schrieb:Always root.
[...]
Router normally mispronounced everywhere now.
May I - as a non-native speaker - ask the following question:
How ist the name of the famous US highway 66 nowadays pronounced in
the US: "rowt" or "root" (like in the song by Bobby Troup)?
Bye,
Reinhard
On 8/18/22 13:59, Chris K-Man wrote:_____
On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-4, Tobiah wrote:
_______The common US mispronunciation of route (mis)pron. "rowt" is to millI think 'root' is dying out in the US. For me, it's always 'rowt'. "Take the scenic rowt".
the edge of a piece of wood (or other material) to a particular shape
with a rotary tool and whatever-shaped bit.
I would never say 'root', and I never hear it in California. The thing that
directs network traffic, a router, is pronounced 'rowter'. People would
scarcely know what you were referring to if you said 'rooter'. Rooter is >> the thing the guy puts down a clogged drain.
I'm from the States, yet I pronounce Route as 'root', and I pronounce
both Rs in the month of FeBREWary.
I also pronounce Chernobyl power plant's category as NEW-CLEAR,As I mentioned, language follows practice. Dictionary.com gives
despite my being from America!
noo-kyuh-ler as one of the possible pronunciations. One that always
catches my ear is 'jewelry' when pronounced 'jewlery'. Again,
dictionary.com lists that as acceptable. I'm sure I hear that
'incorrect' pronunciation far more often. It's like saying
"Just between you and I" or misuse of "that begs the question".
Eventually the pedants have to yield to common practice.
"Tobiah":
I think 'root' is dying out in the US. For me, it's always 'rowt'.
"Take the scenic rowt".
I would never say 'root', and I never hear it in California.
Maybe dying out in CA but not here in Southern New England/NYC area.
"Rowt" is what happens to our football teams.
;-)
On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:09:04 AM UTC-4, John Williamson wrote:
On 18/08/2022 23:06, Chris K-Man wrote:
Regrettably, "new-killer" is the defacto Yankee pronounciation
of the thing. And our esteemed Merriam-Webster Dick-shunairy
actually allows for both pronunciations!
After all Geoff: the U.S. itself was founded on the premise of doing
things "our way, fuck the rest of the world"...!
Over here, it seem so be noo-cue-la.
So is it just easier for humans - and not just those in NorthAm - to pronounce it that way?
I, for one, would rather be correct than easy
geoff schrieb:
[...]
Router normally mispronounced everywhere now.
May I - as a non-native speaker - ask the following question:
How ist the name of the famous US highway 66 nowadays pronounced in
the US: "rowt" or "root" (like in the song by Bobby Troup)?
Bye,
Reinhard
2022-08-17 14:17 Chris K-Man:
On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:09:04 AM UTC-4, John Williamson wrote:
On 18/08/2022 23:06, Chris K-Man wrote:
Regrettably, "new-killer" is the defacto Yankee pronounciation
of the thing. And our esteemed Merriam-Webster Dick-shunairy
actually allows for both pronunciations!
hmm, new-killer vs old-killer? does that really make a difference to the
dead person in the end?
After all Geoff: the U.S. itself was founded on the premise of doing
things "our way, fuck the rest of the world"...!
Over here, it seem so be noo-cue-la.
no-clue-la will pretty sure apply to the understanding of a certain
"clown" known as bojo, who likes to visit Peppa Pig land
So is it just easier for humans - and not just those in NorthAm - to
pronounce it that way?
I don´t know, but I still wonder, if noo-clee-ar is so complicated to pronounce - is has nothing to do with the english word "clear".
Maybe it´s rather, because it might be to correct to all 3 syllables.
I, for one, would rather be correct than easy
good to know, that I´m not alone with that perspective
On 8/18/22 13:59, Chris K-Man wrote:
On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-4, Tobiah wrote:
_______The common US mispronunciation of route (mis)pron. "rowt" is to millI think 'root' is dying out in the US. For me, it's always 'rowt'.
the edge of a piece of wood (or other material) to a particular shape
with a rotary tool and whatever-shaped bit.
"Take the scenic rowt".
I would never say 'root', and I never hear it in California. The
thing that
directs network traffic, a router, is pronounced 'rowter'. People would
scarcely know what you were referring to if you said 'rooter'. Rooter is >>> the thing the guy puts down a clogged drain.
I'm from the States, yet I pronounce Route as 'root', and I pronounce
both Rs in the month of FeBREWary.
I also pronounce Chernobyl power plant's category as NEW-CLEAR,
despite my being from America!
As I mentioned, language follows practice. Dictionary.com gives noo-kyuh-ler as one of the possible pronunciations. One that always
catches my ear is 'jewelry' when pronounced 'jewlery'. Again, dictionary.com lists that as acceptable. I'm sure I hear that
'incorrect' pronunciation far more often. It's like saying
"Just between you and I" or misuse of "that begs the question".
Eventually the pedants have to yield to common practice.
Chuck <chuck23@dejanews.net> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 18:54:55 +0200, Reinhard Zwirner
May I - as a non-native speaker - ask the following question:
How ist the name of the famous US highway 66 nowadays pronounced in
the US: "rowt" or "root" (like in the song by Bobby Troup)?
Always root.
That's kind of a special case. My father would always say "rowt 95"
or "rowt one" but "root 66" because 66 was so famous under that pronounciation.
He was a native speaker from Pittsburgh where they don't quite speak >standardized "midwestern" American English but they are fairly close.
--scott
On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 18:54:55 +0200, Reinhard Zwirner
May I - as a non-native speaker - ask the following question:
How ist the name of the famous US highway 66 nowadays pronounced in
the US: "rowt" or "root" (like in the song by Bobby Troup)?
Always root.
Chuck <chuck23@dejanews.net> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 18:54:55 +0200, Reinhard Zwirner
May I - as a non-native speaker - ask the following question:
How ist the name of the famous US highway 66 nowadays pronounced in
the US: "rowt" or "root" (like in the song by Bobby Troup)?
Always root.
That's kind of a special case. My father would always say "rowt 95"
or "rowt one" but "root 66" because 66 was so famous under that pronounciation.
He was a native speaker from Pittsburgh where they don't quite speak standardized "midwestern" American English but they are fairly close.
--scott
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
Chuck <chuck23@dejanews.net> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 18:54:55 +0200, Reinhard Zwirner
May I - as a non-native speaker - ask the following question:
How ist the name of the famous US highway 66 nowadays pronounced in
the US: "rowt" or "root" (like in the song by Bobby Troup)?
Always root.
That's kind of a special case. My father would always say "rowt 95"
or "rowt one" but "root 66" because 66 was so famous under that pronounciation.
He was a native speaker from Pittsburgh where they don't quite speak
standardized "midwestern" American English but they are fairly close.
--scott
Check out the entry for ‘route’, and the entries for the related words >which are mentioned, in the Century Dictionary. Here’s a link.
http://www.global-language.com/CENTURY/
Pronunciations:
ou as in pound, proud, now
ö as in move, spoon, room
as in note, poke, floor
u as in tub, son, blood
“route ^1 (röt or rout), n. [Now spelled route and usually pron. röt after >mod. F.; historically the proper spelling is rout (rout), or, shortened,
rut (rut) now used in a restricted sense (of. rote ^1, a fourth form of
the same word) 〈 ME. route, rute, a way, course, track (see rut^1 ), 〈 OF. >route, rote, rute, a way, path, street, course, a glade in a wood, F.
route, a way, course, route, = Sp. rota, ruta = Pg. rota (naut.), a way, >course, 〈 ML. rupta, also, after Rom., rutta, rotta, rota, a way, path, >orig. (sc. via) a way broken or cut through a forest, fem. of L. ruptus, >broken: see rout^3, rout^4.] 1. A way; road; path; space for passage.”
“rout ^5 (rout), n. See route^1.“
“rote ^1 (rt), n. [〈 ME. rot, root, rote, 〈 OF. rote, route, roupte, a >way through a forest, a way, road, track, rut, F. route, a way, road,
track, = Sp. ruta = Pg. rota, track, course of a ship at sea (ML. reflex >rotta, rota), 〈 ML. rupta, a way through a forest, a way, road, street; >prop. adj., sc. via, a way broken or cut through a forest;〈 L. rupta,
fem. of ruptus, pp. of rumpere, break: see rupture. Rote^1 is thus a
doublet of route^1, rout^5, rut^1, q. v. Cf. routine.] 1. A fixed or >unchanging round, as in learning or reciting something; mechanical routine
in learning, or in the repetition of that which has been learned; exact >memorizing, or reproduction from memory, as of words or sounds, with or >without attention to their significance: chiefly in the phrase by rote.”
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2022 04:41:29 -0000 (UTC), Matt Faunce
<mattfaunce@gmail.com> wrote:
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
Chuck <chuck23@dejanews.net> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 18:54:55 +0200, Reinhard Zwirner
May I - as a non-native speaker - ask the following question:
How ist the name of the famous US highway 66 nowadays pronounced in
the US: "rowt" or "root" (like in the song by Bobby Troup)?
Always root.
That's kind of a special case. My father would always say "rowt 95"
or "rowt one" but "root 66" because 66 was so famous under that pronounciation.
He was a native speaker from Pittsburgh where they don't quite speak
standardized "midwestern" American English but they are fairly close.
--scott
Check out the entry for ârouteâ, and the entries for the related words
which are mentioned, in the Century Dictionary. Hereâs a link.
http://www.global-language.com/CENTURY/
Pronunciations:
ou as in pound, proud, now
ö as in move, spoon, room
Å as in note, poke, floor
u as in tub, son, blood
âroute ^1 (röt or rout), n. [Now spelled route and usually pron. röt after
mod. F.; historically the proper spelling is rout (rout), or, shortened,
rut (rut) now used in a restricted sense (of. rote ^1, a fourth form of
the same word) â© ME. route, rute, a way, course, track (see rut^1 ), â© OF.
route, rote, rute, a way, path, street, course, a glade in a wood, F.
route, a way, course, route, = Sp. rota, ruta = Pg. rota (naut.), a way,
course, â© ML. rupta, also, after Rom., rutta, rotta, rota, a way, path, >> orig. (sc. via) a way broken or cut through a forest, fem. of L. ruptus,
broken: see rout^3, rout^4.] 1. A way; road; path; space for passage.â >>
ârout ^5 (rout), n. See route^1.â
ârote ^1 (rÅt), n. [â© ME. rot, root, rote, â© OF. rote, route, roupte, a
way through a forest, a way, road, track, rut, F. route, a way, road,
track, = Sp. ruta = Pg. rota, track, course of a ship at sea (ML. reflex
rotta, rota), â© ML. rupta, a way through a forest, a way, road, street; >> prop. adj., sc. via, a way broken or cut through a forest;â© L. rupta, >> fem. of ruptus, pp. of rumpere, break: see rupture. Rote^1 is thus a
doublet of route^1, rout^5, rut^1, q. v. Cf. routine.] 1. A fixed or
unchanging round, as in learning or reciting something; mechanical routine >> in learning, or in the repetition of that which has been learned; exact
memorizing, or reproduction from memory, as of words or sounds, with or
without attention to their significance: chiefly in the phrase by rote.â
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"Tobiah":
I think 'root' is dying out in the US. For me, it's always 'rowt'. "Take the scenic rowt".
I would never say 'root', and I never hear it in California.
Maybe dying out in CA but not here in Southern New England/NYC area.
"Rowt" is what happens to our football teams.
;-)
Well, I just want to hear any recording of "Route 66" where they pronounce
it rowt ;-)
In article <tdu60i$2e8gu$1@dont-email.me>, polymod@optonline.net writes:
Well, I just want to hear any recording of "Route 66" where they pronounce >> it rowt ;-)
Pronouncing "route" as "rout" aurally distinguishes it from "root," which has no pronunciation ambiguity.
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