• One for Rolling Stones fans:

    From pallison49@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 11 23:06:40 2022
    Hi,

    see u-tube vid:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF5R-4HA2Zk

    apologies for all the "in" jokes.

    BTW

    saw the Stones pay live in Sydney in Feb 1973.
    Open air at Randwick Race course in drizzling rain as the light faded.
    A couple of "super troopers " made up for that.
    I was standing about 7 yards from the stage, dead centre.
    Was a big Stones fan at the time, with my own copies of albums Sticky Fingers and Let it Bleed.

    All band members were in very fine form.


    ...... Phil

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to palli...@gmail.com on Wed Apr 13 11:40:58 2022
    On 12/04/2022 6:06 pm, palli...@gmail.com wrote:

    Hi,

    see u-tube vid:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF5R-4HA2Zk

    apologies for all the "in" jokes.

    BTW

    saw the Stones pay live in Sydney in Feb 1973.
    Open air at Randwick Race course in drizzling rain as the light faded.
    A couple of "super troopers " made up for that.
    I was standing about 7 yards from the stage, dead centre.
    Was a big Stones fan at the time, with my own copies of albums Sticky Fingers and Let it Bleed.

    All band members were in very fine form.


    ...... Phil




    I saw the Stones in 2006. I too was shocked, *devastated*, that Mick
    Taylor wasn't performing ;- O b!

    geoff

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  • From Don Pearce@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 13 12:33:58 2022
    On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:40:58 +1200, geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org>
    wrote:

    On 12/04/2022 6:06 pm, palli...@gmail.com wrote:

    Hi,

    see u-tube vid:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF5R-4HA2Zk

    apologies for all the "in" jokes.

    BTW

    saw the Stones pay live in Sydney in Feb 1973.
    Open air at Randwick Race course in drizzling rain as the light faded.
    A couple of "super troopers " made up for that.
    I was standing about 7 yards from the stage, dead centre.
    Was a big Stones fan at the time, with my own copies of albums Sticky Fingers and Let it Bleed.

    All band members were in very fine form.


    ...... Phil




    I saw the Stones in 2006. I too was shocked, *devastated*, that Mick
    Taylor wasn't performing ;- O b!

    geoff

    Mick was by far the best musician they ever had. I went to see them
    just a few years back at their show in Hyde Park. Naturally they
    started with "Start Me Up". And naturally Keith started playing it in
    the totally wrong key. They redubbed him for the official video, but
    there are plenty of private smart phone versions on YouTube that will
    let you hear the true horror of what he did.

    d

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Don Pearce on Thu Apr 14 10:38:22 2022
    On 14/04/2022 12:33 am, Don Pearce wrote:
    On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:40:58 +1200, geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org>
    wrote:

    On 12/04/2022 6:06 pm, palli...@gmail.com wrote:

    Hi,

    see u-tube vid:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF5R-4HA2Zk

    apologies for all the "in" jokes.

    BTW

    saw the Stones pay live in Sydney in Feb 1973.
    Open air at Randwick Race course in drizzling rain as the light faded.
    A couple of "super troopers " made up for that.
    I was standing about 7 yards from the stage, dead centre.
    Was a big Stones fan at the time, with my own copies of albums Sticky Fingers and Let it Bleed.

    All band members were in very fine form.


    ...... Phil




    I saw the Stones in 2006. I too was shocked, *devastated*, that Mick
    Taylor wasn't performing ;- O b!

    geoff

    Mick was by far the best musician they ever had. I went to see them
    just a few years back at their show in Hyde Park. Naturally they
    started with "Start Me Up". And naturally Keith started playing it in
    the totally wrong key. They redubbed him for the official video, but
    there are plenty of private smart phone versions on YouTube that will
    let you hear the true horror of what he did.

    d

    I sure he wouldn't have started *playing* it it the wrong key. He would
    have played it exactly the same as he has done hundreds if not thousands
    of times.

    But the guitar was probably *tuned* to the wrong key. Either by himself
    or his guitar 'tech'.

    geoff

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to geoff on Thu Apr 14 10:55:44 2022
    On 14/04/2022 10:38 am, geoff wrote:
    On 14/04/2022 12:33 am, Don Pearce wrote:
    On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:40:58 +1200, geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org>
    wrote:

    On 12/04/2022 6:06 pm, palli...@gmail.com wrote:

    Hi,

    see u-tube vid:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF5R-4HA2Zk

    apologies for all the "in" jokes.

    BTW

    saw the Stones pay live in Sydney in Feb 1973.
    Open air at Randwick Race course in drizzling rain as the light faded. >>>> A couple of "super troopers " made up for that.
    I was standing about 7 yards from the stage, dead centre.
    Was a big Stones fan at the time, with my own copies of albums
    Sticky Fingers and Let it Bleed.

    All band members were in very fine form.


    ......   Phil




    I saw the Stones in 2006. I too was shocked, *devastated*, that Mick
    Taylor wasn't performing ;- O b!

    geoff

    Mick was by far the best musician they ever had. I went to see them
    just a few years back at their show in Hyde Park. Naturally they
    started with "Start Me Up". And naturally Keith started playing it in
    the totally wrong key. They redubbed him for the official video, but
    there are plenty of private smart phone versions on YouTube that will
    let you hear the true horror of what he did.

    d

    I sure he wouldn't have started *playing* it it the wrong key. He would
    have played it exactly the same as he has done hundreds if not thousands
    of times.

    But the guitar was probably *tuned* to the wrong key. Either by himself
    or his guitar 'tech'.

    geoff

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja81gO8PJ40

    Just looked it up. After a bar or two you can see him looking askance
    down at the guitar as if to say "WTF !". Around 03:50 . Then appears to
    be working out what's wrong and eventual 'cures' the problem.

    Either he was out of his tree and started wrong, or the guitar was tuned
    wrong, which after a verse or so he realised and compensated for by
    moving up to correct. After a bar or two you can see him looking askance
    down at the guitar as if to say "WTF !".

    Or the guitar had been tuned standard instead of Open G (some strings do
    sound 'in tune', and others don't). Or simply having been given the
    wrong guitar for that song. In which case the correction made was
    actually good musicianship.

    Several possibilities for failure - some being him, some being others.

    geoff

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  • From Chris K-Man@21:1/5 to geoff on Wed Apr 13 16:58:03 2022
    On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 6:56:06 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
    On 14/04/2022 10:38 am, geoff wrote:
    On 14/04/2022 12:33 am, Don Pearce wrote:
    On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:40:58 +1200, geoff <ge...@nospamgeoffwood.org>
    wrote:

    On 12/04/2022 6:06 pm, palli...@gmail.com wrote:

    Hi,

    see u-tube vid:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF5R-4HA2Zk

    apologies for all the "in" jokes.

    BTW

    saw the Stones pay live in Sydney in Feb 1973.
    Open air at Randwick Race course in drizzling rain as the light faded. >>>> A couple of "super troopers " made up for that.
    I was standing about 7 yards from the stage, dead centre.
    Was a big Stones fan at the time, with my own copies of albums
    Sticky Fingers and Let it Bleed.

    All band members were in very fine form.


    ...... Phil




    I saw the Stones in 2006. I too was shocked, *devastated*, that Mick
    Taylor wasn't performing ;- O b!

    geoff

    Mick was by far the best musician they ever had. I went to see them
    just a few years back at their show in Hyde Park. Naturally they
    started with "Start Me Up". And naturally Keith started playing it in
    the totally wrong key. They redubbed him for the official video, but
    there are plenty of private smart phone versions on YouTube that will
    let you hear the true horror of what he did.

    d

    I sure he wouldn't have started *playing* it it the wrong key. He would have played it exactly the same as he has done hundreds if not thousands
    of times.

    But the guitar was probably *tuned* to the wrong key. Either by himself
    or his guitar 'tech'.

    geoff
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja81gO8PJ40

    Just looked it up. After a bar or two you can see him looking askance
    down at the guitar as if to say "WTF !". Around 03:50 . Then appears to
    be working out what's wrong and eventual 'cures' the problem.

    Either he was out of his tree and started wrong, or the guitar was tuned wrong, which after a verse or so he realised and compensated for by
    moving up to correct. After a bar or two you can see him looking askance
    down at the guitar as if to say "WTF !".

    Or the guitar had been tuned standard instead of Open G (some strings do sound 'in tune', and others don't). Or simply having been given the
    wrong guitar for that song. In which case the correction made was
    actually good musicianship.

    Several possibilities for failure - some being him, some being others.

    geoff
    _________

    For those who don't want to wade through three minutes of....

    whatever... to find it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ja81gO8PJ40&t=216s

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Chris K-Man on Thu Apr 14 12:25:37 2022
    On 14/04/2022 11:58 am, Chris K-Man wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 6:56:06 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
    On 14/04/2022 10:38 am, geoff wrote:
    On 14/04/2022 12:33 am, Don Pearce wrote:
    On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:40:58 +1200, geoff <ge...@nospamgeoffwood.org>
    wrote:

    On 12/04/2022 6:06 pm, palli...@gmail.com wrote:

    Hi,

    see u-tube vid:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF5R-4HA2Zk

    apologies for all the "in" jokes.

    BTW

    saw the Stones pay live in Sydney in Feb 1973.
    Open air at Randwick Race course in drizzling rain as the light faded. >>>>>> A couple of "super troopers " made up for that.
    I was standing about 7 yards from the stage, dead centre.
    Was a big Stones fan at the time, with my own copies of albums
    Sticky Fingers and Let it Bleed.

    All band members were in very fine form.


    ...... Phil




    I saw the Stones in 2006. I too was shocked, *devastated*, that Mick >>>>> Taylor wasn't performing ;- O b!

    geoff

    Mick was by far the best musician they ever had. I went to see them
    just a few years back at their show in Hyde Park. Naturally they
    started with "Start Me Up". And naturally Keith started playing it in
    the totally wrong key. They redubbed him for the official video, but
    there are plenty of private smart phone versions on YouTube that will
    let you hear the true horror of what he did.

    d

    I sure he wouldn't have started *playing* it it the wrong key. He would
    have played it exactly the same as he has done hundreds if not thousands >>> of times.

    But the guitar was probably *tuned* to the wrong key. Either by himself
    or his guitar 'tech'.

    geoff
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja81gO8PJ40

    Just looked it up. After a bar or two you can see him looking askance
    down at the guitar as if to say "WTF !". Around 03:50 . Then appears to
    be working out what's wrong and eventual 'cures' the problem.

    Either he was out of his tree and started wrong, or the guitar was tuned
    wrong, which after a verse or so he realised and compensated for by
    moving up to correct. After a bar or two you can see him looking askance
    down at the guitar as if to say "WTF !".

    Or the guitar had been tuned standard instead of Open G (some strings do
    sound 'in tune', and others don't). Or simply having been given the
    wrong guitar for that song. In which case the correction made was
    actually good musicianship.

    Several possibilities for failure - some being him, some being others.

    geoff
    _________

    For those who don't want to wade through three minutes of....

    whatever... to find it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ja81gO8PJ40&t=216s

    Um doh, you can simply drag the time-line slider to 03:50 ...

    geoff

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  • From pallison49@gmail.com@21:1/5 to geoff on Wed Apr 13 21:21:42 2022
    geoff wrote:

    ==============
    Don Pearce wrote:


    saw the Stones pay live in Sydney in Feb 1973.
    Open air at Randwick Race course in drizzling rain as the light faded. >>> A couple of "super troopers " made up for that.
    I was standing about 7 yards from the stage, dead centre.
    Was a big Stones fan at the time, with my own copies of albums Sticky Fingers and Let it Bleed.

    All band members were in very fine form.


    ...... Phil

    Mick was by far the best musician they ever had. I went to see them
    just a few years back at their show in Hyde Park. Naturally they
    started with "Start Me Up". And naturally Keith started playing it in
    the totally wrong key. They redubbed him for the official video, but
    there are plenty of private smart phone versions on YouTube that will
    let you hear the true horror of what he did.

    d
    I sure he wouldn't have started *playing* it it the wrong key. He would
    have played it exactly the same as he has done hundreds if not thousands
    of times.

    But the guitar was probably *tuned* to the wrong key. Either by himself
    or his guitar 'tech'.



    ** In the concert I saw in Sydney is 1973, Keith was handed a different guitar for nearly every song.
    There were no obvious mistakes.



    ..... Phil

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  • From Don Pearce@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 14 17:33:29 2022
    On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 10:55:44 +1200, geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org>
    wrote:

    On 14/04/2022 10:38 am, geoff wrote:
    On 14/04/2022 12:33 am, Don Pearce wrote:
    On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:40:58 +1200, geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org>
    wrote:

    On 12/04/2022 6:06 pm, palli...@gmail.com wrote:

    Hi,

    see u-tube vid:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF5R-4HA2Zk

    apologies for all the "in" jokes.

    BTW

    saw the Stones pay live in Sydney in Feb 1973.
    Open air at Randwick Race course in drizzling rain as the light faded. >>>>> A couple of "super troopers " made up for that.
    I was standing about 7 yards from the stage, dead centre.
    Was a big Stones fan at the time, with my own copies of albums
    Sticky Fingers and Let it Bleed.

    All band members were in very fine form.


    ......   Phil




    I saw the Stones in 2006. I too was shocked, *devastated*, that Mick
    Taylor wasn't performing ;- O b!

    geoff

    Mick was by far the best musician they ever had. I went to see them
    just a few years back at their show in Hyde Park. Naturally they
    started with "Start Me Up". And naturally Keith started playing it in
    the totally wrong key. They redubbed him for the official video, but
    there are plenty of private smart phone versions on YouTube that will
    let you hear the true horror of what he did.

    d

    I sure he wouldn't have started *playing* it it the wrong key. He would
    have played it exactly the same as he has done hundreds if not thousands
    of times.

    But the guitar was probably *tuned* to the wrong key. Either by himself
    or his guitar 'tech'.

    geoff

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja81gO8PJ40

    Just looked it up. After a bar or two you can see him looking askance
    down at the guitar as if to say "WTF !". Around 03:50 . Then appears to
    be working out what's wrong and eventual 'cures' the problem.

    Either he was out of his tree and started wrong, or the guitar was tuned >wrong, which after a verse or so he realised and compensated for by
    moving up to correct. After a bar or two you can see him looking askance
    down at the guitar as if to say "WTF !".

    Or the guitar had been tuned standard instead of Open G (some strings do >sound 'in tune', and others don't). Or simply having been given the
    wrong guitar for that song. In which case the correction made was
    actually good musicianship.

    Several possibilities for failure - some being him, some being others.

    geoff

    I'm going with the tree theory.

    d

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