• shipping a heavy Fender Deluxe 85

    From Bill Saunders@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 2 09:45:09 2022
    Hi,

    I thought that since this an audio group, perhaps you'd be able to
    answer this question. I have a heavy, Fender Deluxe 85 guitar amp that
    I'd like to sell on eBay. As you know, the dimensions are large as
    well. How would I go about shipping this? I am a DIYer, so prefer to
    go at it from that angle to save shipping materials cost.

    Thank you in advance,
    Bill

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  • From Bill Saunders@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Wed Mar 2 11:06:33 2022
    On 3/2/22 10:36, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Bill Saunders <bs1094@aolspam.net> wrote:
    I thought that since this an audio group, perhaps you'd be able to
    answer this question. I have a heavy, Fender Deluxe 85 guitar amp that
    I'd like to sell on eBay. As you know, the dimensions are large as
    well. How would I go about shipping this? I am a DIYer, so prefer to
    go at it from that angle to save shipping materials cost.

    Crate it.

    https://www.instructables.com/Need-to-ship-something-safely-How-to-build-a-custo/

    This website uses much more expensive wood than you really need, although
    you probably won't find unplaned rough crating stock at one of the big box stores. You can reuse old crate and pallet wood, though.
    --scott


    Thanks for the info. Wow, I would imagine it would cost more to crate
    and ship than it's worth. They don't seem to be either top or high
    priced sellers on eBay, so I might be forced to do pick up only. If it
    were a tube model, it might be worth the extra effort but solid state I
    doubt it.

    Only other option I came across was finding a double walled cardboard
    box large enough, then meticulously bubble wrapping it a couple of
    inches on all sides, then fill the space between the amp and box with
    generous amounts of crumpled craft paper, but even that's going to use
    up a lot of $ just to get it ready!

    Of course, I suppose I could try the UPS Store nearby, have them give me
    an estimate for their wrapping and packing.....

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to bs1094@aolspam.net on Wed Mar 2 15:36:32 2022
    Bill Saunders <bs1094@aolspam.net> wrote:
    I thought that since this an audio group, perhaps you'd be able to
    answer this question. I have a heavy, Fender Deluxe 85 guitar amp that
    I'd like to sell on eBay. As you know, the dimensions are large as
    well. How would I go about shipping this? I am a DIYer, so prefer to
    go at it from that angle to save shipping materials cost.

    Crate it.

    https://www.instructables.com/Need-to-ship-something-safely-How-to-build-a-custo/

    This website uses much more expensive wood than you really need, although
    you probably won't find unplaned rough crating stock at one of the big box stores. You can reuse old crate and pallet wood, though.
    --scott

    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From John Williamson@21:1/5 to Bill Saunders on Wed Mar 2 19:08:31 2022
    On 02/03/2022 16:06, Bill Saunders wrote:

    Of course, I suppose I could try the UPS Store nearby, have them give me
    an estimate for their wrapping and packing.....

    If you use them end to end, their insurance should cover any damage.

    They may just put it in the back of their van with a "fragile" label on it.

    --
    Tciao for Now!

    John.

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  • From Tobiah@21:1/5 to Bill Saunders on Wed Mar 2 12:35:28 2022
    On 3/2/22 06:45, Bill Saunders wrote:
    Hi,

    I thought that since this an audio group, perhaps you'd be able to
    answer this question. I have a heavy, Fender Deluxe 85 guitar amp
    that I'd like to sell on eBay. As you know, the dimensions are large
    as well. How would I go about shipping this? I am a DIYer, so
    prefer to go at it from that angle to save shipping materials cost.

    Thank you in advance, Bill

    I would consider marking your eBay auction as "local pickup only",
    and advertise on Craigslist at the same time.

    You will have less audience, sure, but the total price of the item
    will be far more attractive.


    Toby

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bill Saunders on Thu Mar 3 09:36:08 2022
    On 3/03/2022 5:06 am, Bill Saunders wrote:


    Only other option I came across was finding a double walled cardboard
    box large enough, then meticulously bubble wrapping it a couple of
    inches on all sides, then fill the space between the amp and box with generous amounts of crumpled craft paper, but even that's going to use
    up a lot of $ just to get it ready!

    Well, that's how they are delivered in the first place, so why not !

    geoff

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  • From pallison49@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Bill Saunders on Wed Mar 2 22:21:22 2022
    Bill Saunders wrote:
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    I thought that since this an audio group, perhaps you'd be able to
    answer this question. I have a heavy, Fender Deluxe 85 guitar amp

    ** The Deluxe 85 is a small amp - as guitar amps go.
    Transistor with 1 x 12 inch speaker, weighs just 32 pounds.
    A sturdy cardboard box with *plenty* of newspaper and/ or polystyrene packing would be fine.
    The risk with such amps is if it is dropped hard, the magnet assembly could detach from the frame of the speaker.


    ..... Phil

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to palli...@gmail.com on Fri Mar 4 10:31:55 2022
    On 3/03/2022 7:21 pm, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
    Bill Saunders wrote:
    ===============

    I thought that since this an audio group, perhaps you'd be able to
    answer this question. I have a heavy, Fender Deluxe 85 guitar amp

    ** The Deluxe 85 is a small amp - as guitar amps go.
    Transistor with 1 x 12 inch speaker, weighs just 32 pounds.
    A sturdy cardboard box with *plenty* of newspaper and/ or polystyrene packing would be fine.
    The risk with such amps is if it is dropped hard, the magnet assembly could detach from the frame of the speaker.


    ..... Phil


    True of the magnet thing. But such amps are shipped all the time, often
    in a single carton with appropriate spacing/packing.

    Surprised it's even a question.

    geoff

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  • From Les Cargill@21:1/5 to Bill Saunders on Fri Mar 11 18:21:34 2022
    Bill Saunders wrote:
    Hi,

    I thought that since this an audio group, perhaps you'd be able to
    answer this question.  I have a heavy, Fender Deluxe 85 guitar amp that
    I'd like to sell on eBay.  As you know, the dimensions are large as
    well.  How would I go about shipping this?  I am a DIYer, so prefer to
    go at it from that angle to save shipping materials cost.

    Thank you in advance,
    Bill

    First, take it apart. Box each piece separately. If it's convenient, put
    the boxes in another box. You don't have to worry about pulling tubes
    in this case.

    Uncle Doug on YouTube is a connoisseur of fine amp packing techniques.
    You don't have to watch the whole video, just the first part.

    --
    Les Cargill

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  • From pallison49@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Les Chargrill on Fri Mar 11 22:48:35 2022
    Les Chargrill wrote:

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    First, take it apart. Box each piece separately.

    ** ROTFLMAO !!

    Total half witted INSANITY !!!!



    ..... Phil

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to palli...@gmail.com on Sun Mar 13 00:16:43 2022
    On 12/03/2022 7:48 pm, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
    Les Chargrill wrote:

    ==================

    First, take it apart. Box each piece separately.

    ** ROTFLMAO !!

    Total half witted INSANITY !!!!



    ..... Phil




    Absolutely.

    Just carton it up and send it, like the way it came. Or get a slightly
    bigger carton (or corrugated cardboard wrap) and line it with packing
    (EPS, bubble, foam, whatever), or simply double-wrap it in
    corri-cardboard.

    It's hardly rocket surgery !

    geoff

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  • From Les Cargill@21:1/5 to geoff on Mon Mar 14 08:00:00 2022
    geoff wrote:
    On 12/03/2022 7:48 pm, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
    Les Chargrill wrote:

    ==================

    First, take it apart. Box each piece separately.

    **    ROTFLMAO  !!

       Total  half witted  INSANITY  !!!!



    .....  Phil




    Absolutely.

    Just carton it up and send it, like the way it came. Or get a slightly
    bigger carton (or corrugated cardboard wrap) and line it with packing
    (EPS, bubble, foam, whatever), or simply double-wrap it in corri-cardboard.

    It's hardly rocket surgery !

    geoff


    Ship a lot of amps, Geoff? It's four screws in most cases to remove the electronics.

    UPS and the like now seem to have "package destruction specialists" on
    staff. Figure on tolerating a four to six foot drop.

    If you have the staff to design a package as the amp manufacturers do,
    do it your way. Otherwise...

    --
    Les Cargill

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Les Cargill on Tue Mar 15 09:08:33 2022
    On 15/03/2022 2:00 am, Les Cargill wrote:
    geoff wrote:
    On 12/03/2022 7:48 pm, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
    Les Chargrill wrote:

    ==================

    First, take it apart. Box each piece separately.

    **    ROTFLMAO  !!

       Total  half witted  INSANITY  !!!!



    .....  Phil




    Absolutely.

    Just carton it up and send it, like the way it came. Or get a slightly
    bigger carton (or corrugated cardboard wrap) and line it with packing
    (EPS, bubble, foam, whatever), or simply double-wrap it in
    corri-cardboard.

    It's hardly rocket surgery !

    geoff


    Ship a lot of amps, Geoff? It's four screws in most cases to remove the electronics.

    Yeah but why.


    UPS and the like now seem to have "package destruction specialists" on
    staff. Figure on tolerating a four to six foot drop.

    The stop at the bottom would likely rearrange the tube internals to some
    degree however packed !


    If you have the staff to design a package as the amp manufacturers do,
    do it your way. Otherwise...


    Yep, have shipped (to me) that would make an '85 like childs-play:
    - VOXAC30
    - Fender Twin Reverb
    - Roland JC120
    - Peavey Classic 50
    .... amongst others. Each in either a single-layer non-original carton,
    with and without a layer or two of bubble-wrap, and one just in a wrap
    of corrugated cardboard. No issues.

    Also regularly ship out repaired items up to similar size/weight,
    usually in used cartons with bubble wrap or recycled poly packing.

    geoff

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  • From pallison49@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Less Cargill the Better on Mon Mar 14 14:55:28 2022
    Less Cargill the Better wrote:

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    Ship a lot of amps, Geoff? It's four screws in most cases to remove the electronics.


    ** The aluminium chassis of a Deluxe 85 can be particularly difficult to remove and replace.
    Not a job for owners and there is zero point to the idea.
    Like all you mad ideas.



    .... Phil

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  • From Les Cargill@21:1/5 to geoff on Fri Apr 8 22:24:39 2022
    geoff wrote:
    On 15/03/2022 2:00 am, Les Cargill wrote:
    geoff wrote:
    On 12/03/2022 7:48 pm, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
    Les Chargrill wrote:

    ==================

    First, take it apart. Box each piece separately.

    **    ROTFLMAO  !!

       Total  half witted  INSANITY  !!!!



    .....  Phil




    Absolutely.

    Just carton it up and send it, like the way it came. Or get a
    slightly bigger carton (or corrugated cardboard wrap) and line it
    with packing (EPS, bubble, foam, whatever), or simply double-wrap it
    in corri-cardboard.

    It's hardly rocket surgery !

    geoff


    Ship a lot of amps, Geoff? It's four screws in most cases to remove
    the electronics.

    Yeah but why.


    Because there are a couple of seriously dense spots in the transformers.


    UPS and the like now seem to have "package destruction specialists" on
    staff. Figure on tolerating a four to six foot drop.

    The stop at the bottom would likely rearrange the tube internals to some degree however packed !


    Absolutely. But I don't want the heavy things to control where the lever
    arms in the present arrangements are.

    I kinda visualize the sress on the mounting screws and think that's an opportunity for breakage.


    If you have the staff to design a package as the amp manufacturers do,
    do it your way. Otherwise...


    Yep, have shipped (to me) that would make an '85 like childs-play:
    - VOXAC30
    - Fender Twin Reverb
    - Roland JC120
    - Peavey Classic 50
    .... amongst others. Each in either a single-layer non-original carton,
    with and without a layer or two of bubble-wrap, and one just in a wrap
    of corrugated cardboard. No issues.

    Also regularly ship out repaired items up to similar size/weight,
    usually in used cartons with bubble wrap or recycled poly packing.


    Well, there you go. It'll all work out fine I'm sure.

    geoff



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    Les Cargill

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