• Mrs Smith

    From pallison49@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 18 01:03:52 2021
    Hi,

    all the "alphabet people" will hate this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg005vmnr9U

    Amazing a business that depends on the idea that " rare" = "good" helped create the above.


    ..... Phil

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  • From pallison49@gmail.com@21:1/5 to palli...@gmail.com on Sun Jul 18 07:28:44 2021
    palli...@gmail.com wrote:
    ===================

    all the "alphabet people" will hate this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg005vmnr9U

    Amazing a business that depends on the idea that " rare" = "good" helped create the above.

    -------------------------------------------

    ** Live TV interview with Mrs Smith revealing how she was forced to learn shred guitar to save her life after being kidnapped
    - similar story to Patty Hearst adopting the machine gun.

    She also explains about her lost feline Carlyle and demonstrates a few basic licks on her Ibanez guitar.

    Pick of the comments:

    " I saw Carlyle drinking a piña colada at Trader Vic's and his hair was perfect "

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIKKgUtl0Oo



    ...... Phil

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  • From Don Pearce@21:1/5 to pallison49@gmail.com on Sun Jul 18 15:16:07 2021
    On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 07:28:44 -0700 (PDT), "palli...@gmail.com" <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

    palli...@gmail.com wrote:
    ===================

    all the "alphabet people" will hate this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg005vmnr9U

    Amazing a business that depends on the idea that " rare" = "good" helped create the above.

    -------------------------------------------

    ** Live TV interview with Mrs Smith revealing how she was forced to learn shred guitar to save her life after being kidnapped
    - similar story to Patty Hearst adopting the machine gun.

    She also explains about her lost feline Carlyle and demonstrates a few basic licks on her Ibanez guitar.

    Pick of the comments:

    " I saw Carlyle drinking a piña colada at Trader Vic's and his hair was perfect "

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIKKgUtl0Oo



    ...... Phil




    Is that a woman? Ouch. Looks like a man in drag from here.

    d

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  • From pallison49@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Don Pearce on Sun Jul 18 09:08:56 2021
    Don Pearce wrote:
    =================
    all the "alphabet people" will hate this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg005vmnr9U

    Amazing a business that depends on the idea that " rare" = "good" helped create the above.

    -------------------------------------------

    ** Live TV interview with Mrs Smith revealing how she was forced to learn shred guitar to save her life after being kidnapped
    - similar story to Patty Hearst adopting the machine gun.

    She also explains about her lost feline Carlyle and demonstrates a few basic licks on her Ibanez guitar.

    Pick of the comments:

    " I saw Carlyle drinking a piña colada at Trader Vic's and his hair was perfect "

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIKKgUtl0Oo


    Is that a woman? Ouch. Looks like a man in drag from here.


    ** Careful Don - the UK "thought police" may be watching you.

    If Mrs Smith *says* she is a woman - then she legally IS one !!

    See vid where she reveals her favourite busking amp should convince you:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbq09LBReHo


    What man would ever express himself in that way ?




    ...... Phil

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  • From Don Pearce@21:1/5 to pallison49@gmail.com on Sun Jul 18 16:46:58 2021
    On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 09:08:56 -0700 (PDT), "palli...@gmail.com" <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

    Don Pearce wrote:
    =================
    all the "alphabet people" will hate this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg005vmnr9U

    Amazing a business that depends on the idea that " rare" = "good" helped create the above.

    -------------------------------------------

    ** Live TV interview with Mrs Smith revealing how she was forced to learn shred guitar to save her life after being kidnapped
    - similar story to Patty Hearst adopting the machine gun.

    She also explains about her lost feline Carlyle and demonstrates a few basic licks on her Ibanez guitar.

    Pick of the comments:

    " I saw Carlyle drinking a piña colada at Trader Vic's and his hair was perfect "

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIKKgUtl0Oo


    Is that a woman? Ouch. Looks like a man in drag from here.


    ** Careful Don - the UK "thought police" may be watching you.

    If Mrs Smith *says* she is a woman - then she legally IS one !!

    See vid where she reveals her favourite busking amp should convince you:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbq09LBReHo


    What man would ever express himself in that way ?




    ...... Phil

    Don't give a fuck about the thought police. If his chromosome load is
    XY, then he is a man. That's biological law. He can do what he likes
    with his gender - masculine or feminine. But sex? Nope. You live and
    die as you are born. Male or female, he or she, man or woman.

    d

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  • From pallison49@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Don Pearce on Sun Jul 18 18:09:26 2021
    Don Pearce wrote:
    ===============

    all the "alphabet people" will hate this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg005vmnr9U

    Amazing a business that depends on the idea that " rare" = "good" helped create the above.

    -------------------------------------------

    ** Live TV interview with Mrs Smith revealing how she was forced to learn shred guitar to save her life after being kidnapped
    - similar story to Patty Hearst adopting the machine gun.

    She also explains about her lost feline Carlyle and demonstrates a few basic licks on her Ibanez guitar.

    Pick of the comments:

    " I saw Carlyle drinking a piña colada at Trader Vic's and his hair was perfect "

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIKKgUtl0Oo


    Is that a woman? Ouch. Looks like a man in drag from here.


    ** Careful Don - the UK "thought police" may be watching you.

    If Mrs Smith *says* she is a woman - then she legally IS one !!

    See vid where she reveals her favourite busking amp should convince you:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbq09LBReHo


    What man would ever express himself in that way ?


    Don't give a fuck about the thought police. If his chromosome load is
    XY, then he is a man. That's biological law. He can do what he likes
    with his gender - masculine or feminine. But sex? Nope. You live and
    die as you are born. Male or female, he or she, man or woman.

    ** See:

    https://www.worldofsmith.com/

    Check fine print right at the bottom.


    .... Phil

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Don Pearce on Mon Jul 19 18:47:21 2021
    On 19/07/2021 6:38 pm, Don Pearce wrote:
    On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 18:09:26 -0700 (PDT), "palli...@gmail.com" <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

    Don Pearce wrote:
    ===============

    all the "alphabet people" will hate this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg005vmnr9U

    Amazing a business that depends on the idea that " rare" = "good" helped create the above.

    -------------------------------------------

    ** Live TV interview with Mrs Smith revealing how she was forced to learn shred guitar to save her life after being kidnapped
    - similar story to Patty Hearst adopting the machine gun.

    She also explains about her lost feline Carlyle and demonstrates a few basic licks on her Ibanez guitar.

    Pick of the comments:

    " I saw Carlyle drinking a piña colada at Trader Vic's and his hair was perfect "

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIKKgUtl0Oo


    Is that a woman? Ouch. Looks like a man in drag from here.


    ** Careful Don - the UK "thought police" may be watching you.

    If Mrs Smith *says* she is a woman - then she legally IS one !!

    See vid where she reveals her favourite busking amp should convince you: >>>>
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbq09LBReHo


    What man would ever express himself in that way ?


    Don't give a fuck about the thought police. If his chromosome load is
    XY, then he is a man. That's biological law. He can do what he likes
    with his gender - masculine or feminine. But sex? Nope. You live and
    die as you are born. Male or female, he or she, man or woman.

    ** See:

    https://www.worldofsmith.com/

    Check fine print right at the bottom.


    .... Phil

    I just see an attempt to register a common name as a trade mark. That
    would not succeed in any court.

    d


    So you don't think the whole piece is a parody then, or what ?

    geoff

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  • From Don Pearce@21:1/5 to pallison49@gmail.com on Mon Jul 19 06:38:08 2021
    On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 18:09:26 -0700 (PDT), "palli...@gmail.com" <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

    Don Pearce wrote:
    ===============

    all the "alphabet people" will hate this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg005vmnr9U

    Amazing a business that depends on the idea that " rare" = "good" helped create the above.

    -------------------------------------------

    ** Live TV interview with Mrs Smith revealing how she was forced to learn shred guitar to save her life after being kidnapped
    - similar story to Patty Hearst adopting the machine gun.

    She also explains about her lost feline Carlyle and demonstrates a few basic licks on her Ibanez guitar.

    Pick of the comments:

    " I saw Carlyle drinking a piña colada at Trader Vic's and his hair was perfect "

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIKKgUtl0Oo


    Is that a woman? Ouch. Looks like a man in drag from here.


    ** Careful Don - the UK "thought police" may be watching you.

    If Mrs Smith *says* she is a woman - then she legally IS one !!

    See vid where she reveals her favourite busking amp should convince you:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbq09LBReHo


    What man would ever express himself in that way ?


    Don't give a fuck about the thought police. If his chromosome load is
    XY, then he is a man. That's biological law. He can do what he likes
    with his gender - masculine or feminine. But sex? Nope. You live and
    die as you are born. Male or female, he or she, man or woman.

    ** See:

    https://www.worldofsmith.com/

    Check fine print right at the bottom.


    .... Phil

    I just see an attempt to register a common name as a trade mark. That
    would not succeed in any court.

    d

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  • From pallison49@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Don Pearce on Mon Jul 19 00:21:51 2021
    Don Pearce wrote:
    ===============
    https://www.worldofsmith.com/

    Check fine print right at the bottom.

    ---------------------------------------------------------

    I just see an attempt to register a common name as a trade mark. That
    would not succeed in any court.


    ** The circled R means " Mrs. Smith" is a registered trade mark in the USA.

    Did you not see the real name below.

    FYI:

    David Hanbury is a comedian and actor - plus guitarist of some note.


    ..... Phil

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  • From Don Pearce@21:1/5 to Don Pearce on Mon Jul 19 09:03:30 2021
    On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 08:55:32 GMT, spam@spam.com (Don Pearce) wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 00:21:51 -0700 (PDT), "palli...@gmail.com" ><pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

    Don Pearce wrote:
    ===============
    https://www.worldofsmith.com/

    Check fine print right at the bottom.

    ---------------------------------------------------------

    I just see an attempt to register a common name as a trade mark. That
    would not succeed in any court.


    ** The circled R means " Mrs. Smith" is a registered trade mark in the USA. >>
    Did you not see the real name below.

    FYI:

    David Hanbury is a comedian and actor - plus guitarist of some note.


    ..... Phil




    Yes, I got that. Eddie Izzard would be another example of the genre.

    d

    My comments were really just follow-ups to yours about the Thought
    Police. I fully get what he is all about. The current women's World Power-Lifting champion is a man who identified as female long enough
    to qualify under current regs. Once he had the title he re-identified
    as a man. I found that very funny.

    d

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  • From Don Pearce@21:1/5 to pallison49@gmail.com on Mon Jul 19 08:55:32 2021
    On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 00:21:51 -0700 (PDT), "palli...@gmail.com" <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

    Don Pearce wrote:
    ===============
    https://www.worldofsmith.com/

    Check fine print right at the bottom.

    ---------------------------------------------------------

    I just see an attempt to register a common name as a trade mark. That
    would not succeed in any court.


    ** The circled R means " Mrs. Smith" is a registered trade mark in the USA.

    Did you not see the real name below.

    FYI:

    David Hanbury is a comedian and actor - plus guitarist of some note.


    ..... Phil




    Yes, I got that. Eddie Izzard would be another example of the genre.

    d

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  • From pallison49@gmail.com@21:1/5 to geoff on Mon Jul 19 03:09:12 2021
    geoff wrote:
    ---------------


    So you don't think the whole piece is a parody then, or what ?


    ** Don't tell him - this is too much fun !!



    .... Phil

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Don Pearce on Mon Jul 19 23:19:37 2021
    On 19/07/2021 9:03 pm, Don Pearce wrote:
    On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 08:55:32 GMT, spam@spam.com (Don Pearce) wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 00:21:51 -0700 (PDT), "palli...@gmail.com"
    <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

    Don Pearce wrote:
    ===============
    https://www.worldofsmith.com/

    Check fine print right at the bottom.

    ---------------------------------------------------------

    I just see an attempt to register a common name as a trade mark. That
    would not succeed in any court.


    ** The circled R means " Mrs. Smith" is a registered trade mark in the USA.

    Did you not see the real name below.

    FYI:

    David Hanbury is a comedian and actor - plus guitarist of some note.


    ..... Phil




    Yes, I got that. Eddie Izzard would be another example of the genre.

    d

    My comments were really just follow-ups to yours about the Thought
    Police. I fully get what he is all about. The current women's World Power-Lifting champion is a man who identified as female long enough
    to qualify under current regs. Once he had the title he re-identified
    as a man. I found that very funny.

    d


    There is a little (a lot) more to it than simply "identifying as female".

    geoff

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  • From Don Pearce@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 19 12:19:41 2021
    On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 23:19:37 +1200, geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org>
    wrote:

    On 19/07/2021 9:03 pm, Don Pearce wrote:
    On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 08:55:32 GMT, spam@spam.com (Don Pearce) wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 00:21:51 -0700 (PDT), "palli...@gmail.com"
    <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

    Don Pearce wrote:
    ===============
    https://www.worldofsmith.com/

    Check fine print right at the bottom.

    ---------------------------------------------------------

    I just see an attempt to register a common name as a trade mark. That >>>>> would not succeed in any court.


    ** The circled R means " Mrs. Smith" is a registered trade mark in the USA.

    Did you not see the real name below.

    FYI:

    David Hanbury is a comedian and actor - plus guitarist of some note.


    ..... Phil




    Yes, I got that. Eddie Izzard would be another example of the genre.

    d

    My comments were really just follow-ups to yours about the Thought
    Police. I fully get what he is all about. The current women's World
    Power-Lifting champion is a man who identified as female long enough
    to qualify under current regs. Once he had the title he re-identified
    as a man. I found that very funny.

    d


    There is a little (a lot) more to it than simply "identifying as female".

    geoff

    No. Female and male are definitions of sex. There is nothing more to
    it than the chromosomes. Anything you want to discuss besides that and
    we move into the topic of gender, not sex. There are two extremes of
    gender, masculine and feminine, with a continuum in between. Don't go
    the route of confusing sex with gender - that is causing unbelievable
    fuckups right now.

    d

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  • From Chris K-Man@21:1/5 to Don Pearce on Mon Jul 19 06:05:25 2021
    On Monday, July 19, 2021 at 8:19:45 AM UTC-4, Don Pearce wrote:
    On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 23:19:37 +1200, geoff <ge...@nospamgeoffwood.org>
    wrote:
    On 19/07/2021 9:03 pm, Don Pearce wrote:
    On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 08:55:32 GMT, sp...@spam.com (Don Pearce) wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 00:21:51 -0700 (PDT), "palli...@gmail.com"
    <palli...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Don Pearce wrote:
    ===============
    https://www.worldofsmith.com/

    Check fine print right at the bottom.

    ---------------------------------------------------------

    I just see an attempt to register a common name as a trade mark. That >>>>> would not succeed in any court.


    ** The circled R means " Mrs. Smith" is a registered trade mark in the USA.

    Did you not see the real name below.

    FYI:

    David Hanbury is a comedian and actor - plus guitarist of some note. >>>>

    ..... Phil




    Yes, I got that. Eddie Izzard would be another example of the genre.

    d

    My comments were really just follow-ups to yours about the Thought
    Police. I fully get what he is all about. The current women's World
    Power-Lifting champion is a man who identified as female long enough
    to qualify under current regs. Once he had the title he re-identified
    as a man. I found that very funny.

    d


    There is a little (a lot) more to it than simply "identifying as female".

    geoff
    No. Female and male are definitions of sex. There is nothing more to
    it than the chromosomes. Anything you want to discuss besides that and
    we move into the topic of gender, not sex. There are two extremes of
    gender, masculine and feminine, with a continuum in between. Don't go
    the route of confusing sex with gender - that is causing unbelievable
    fuckups right now.
    d

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    _____

    Here's how I look at this whole gender thing:

    If you anice ato me, I'm anice ato you!

    If you an asshole ato me, I'm an asshole aright aback!

    Capiche?

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  • From Tobiah@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 19 09:33:25 2021
    One of the youtube commenters points out that
    the microphone is pointed at the amp head, not
    the cabinet.

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  • From pallison49@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 19 16:46:51 2021
    Tobiah wrote:
    ==============

    ** Hey shithead:

    Always leave some *context* when you post.

    Its a big word - better look it up.


    One of the youtube commenters points out that
    the microphone is pointed at the amp head, not
    the cabinet.

    ** Mrs Smith is wearing a tiny lapel mic as is the presenter.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIKKgUtl0Oo

    The large mic leaning on the amp is not in use.


    ..... Phil

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  • From Tobiah@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 20 09:50:16 2021
    One of the youtube commenters points out that
    the microphone is pointed at the amp head, not
    the cabinet.

    ** Mrs Smith is wearing a tiny lapel mic as is the presenter.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIKKgUtl0Oo

    The large mic leaning on the amp is not in use.


    ..... Phil

    The single statement that I made was correct.

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  • From pallison49@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Tobiah on Tue Jul 20 16:30:28 2021
    Tobiah wrote:

    One of the youtube commenters points out that
    the microphone is pointed at the amp head, not
    the cabinet.

    ** Mrs Smith is wearing a tiny lapel mic as is the presenter.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIKKgUtl0Oo

    The large mic leaning on the amp is not in use.

    The single statement that I made was correct.

    ** Fuck off you pedantic twat.

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  • From Tobiah@21:1/5 to palli...@gmail.com on Wed Jul 21 15:45:26 2021
    On 7/20/2021 4:30 PM, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
    Tobiah wrote:

    One of the youtube commenters points out that
    the microphone is pointed at the amp head, not
    the cabinet.

    ** Mrs Smith is wearing a tiny lapel mic as is the presenter.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIKKgUtl0Oo

    The large mic leaning on the amp is not in use.

    The single statement that I made was correct.

    ** Fuck off you pedantic twat.


    An ad hominem attack is a great indication of a
    losing position.

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  • From Don Pearce@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Sat Aug 7 18:54:45 2021
    On 7 Aug 2021 18:25:14 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

    Don Pearce <spam@spam.com> wrote:

    No. Female and male are definitions of sex. There is nothing more to
    it than the chromosomes. Anything you want to discuss besides that and
    we move into the topic of gender, not sex. There are two extremes of >>gender, masculine and feminine, with a continuum in between. Don't go
    the route of confusing sex with gender - that is causing unbelievable >>fuckups right now.

    It turns out to be even more complicated than that, since we have folks who >are physically one gender but genetically another, and then we have
    people with XXY or XYY genetics.

    Then we have some folks like r.a.p's own Kiira Triea, who killed herself
    nine years ago this November. She was put into a kind of terrible position >through no fault of her own.
    --scott

    Those are tiny minorities, of course, and they demand special
    treatment. But generally what I say is the way it actually is.

    d

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to Don Pearce on Sat Aug 7 18:25:14 2021
    Don Pearce <spam@spam.com> wrote:

    No. Female and male are definitions of sex. There is nothing more to
    it than the chromosomes. Anything you want to discuss besides that and
    we move into the topic of gender, not sex. There are two extremes of
    gender, masculine and feminine, with a continuum in between. Don't go
    the route of confusing sex with gender - that is causing unbelievable
    fuckups right now.

    It turns out to be even more complicated than that, since we have folks who
    are physically one gender but genetically another, and then we have
    people with XXY or XYY genetics.

    Then we have some folks like r.a.p's own Kiira Triea, who killed herself
    nine years ago this November. She was put into a kind of terrible position through no fault of her own.
    --scott

    --
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  • From Chris K-Man@21:1/5 to Don Pearce on Sun Aug 8 11:49:52 2021
    On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 2:54:49 PM UTC-4, Don Pearce wrote:
    On 7 Aug 2021 18:25:14 -0000, klu...@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

    Don Pearce <sp...@spam.com> wrote:

    No. Female and male are definitions of sex. There is nothing more to
    it than the chromosomes. Anything you want to discuss besides that and
    we move into the topic of gender, not sex. There are two extremes of >>gender, masculine and feminine, with a continuum in between. Don't go
    the route of confusing sex with gender - that is causing unbelievable >>fuckups right now.

    It turns out to be even more complicated than that, since we have folks who >are physically one gender but genetically another, and then we have
    people with XXY or XYY genetics.

    Then we have some folks like r.a.p's own Kiira Triea, who killed herself >nine years ago this November. She was put into a kind of terrible position >through no fault of her own.
    --scott
    Those are tiny minorities, of course, and they demand special
    treatment. But generally what I say is the way it actually is.
    d

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    Don:

    I'm sure everyone is exactly who they're supposed to be, in Mayberry, Pleasant Valley, or wherever you are from... ;)

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  • From Rink@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 17 17:37:56 2021
    Op 18-7-2021 om 18:46 schreef Don Pearce:


    Don't give a fuck about the thought police. If his chromosome load is
    XY, then he is a man. That's biological law. He can do what he likes
    with his gender - masculine or feminine. But sex? Nope. You live and
    die as you are born. Male or female, he or she, man or woman.

    d



    It's not that simple.

    A person with XY can be a woman.
    Ever heard of the Swyer Syndrome?
    46, XX Intersex?
    46, XY Intersex?
    etc.

    Here are some exceptions of "the XX/XY-law":

    <https://scienceline.org/2020/10/beyond-x-y-chromosomes-and-sex-organs/>

    <https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/swyer-syndrome/>

    <https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/001669.htm>

    <https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/05/what-no-one-is-telling-you-about-caster-semenya-she-has-xy-chromosomes/>


    Rink

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  • From Don Pearce@21:1/5 to rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl on Tue Aug 17 16:16:16 2021
    On Tue, 17 Aug 2021 17:37:56 +0200, Rink
    <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> wrote:

    It's not that simple.

    A person with XY can be a woman.
    Ever heard of the Swyer Syndrome?
    46, XX Intersex?
    46, XY Intersex?
    etc.

    Here are some exceptions of "the XX/XY-law":

    I'm not interested in rare medical exceptions. I've already said that
    special provision must be made for them. I am talking about your common-or-garden gender switcher.

    d

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to Don Pearce on Tue Aug 17 21:39:00 2021
    Don Pearce <spam@spam.com> wrote:

    I'm not interested in rare medical exceptions. I've already said that
    special provision must be made for them. I am talking about your >common-or-garden gender switcher.

    Yes, the problem is the rare exceptions, though. It is a very weird
    world that we seem to live in.
    --scott
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  • From Rink@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 18 14:20:01 2021
    Op 17-8-2021 om 18:16 schreef Don Pearce:
    On Tue, 17 Aug 2021 17:37:56 +0200, Rink
    <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> wrote:

    It's not that simple.

    A person with XY can be a woman.
    Ever heard of the Swyer Syndrome?
    46, XX Intersex?
    46, XY Intersex?
    etc.

    Here are some exceptions of "the XX/XY-law":

    I'm not interested in rare medical exceptions. I've already said that
    special provision must be made for them. I am talking about your common-or-garden gender switcher.

    d



    I only want to show you
    that XY is not always a man
    and XX is not always a woman.

    Rink

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  • From Don Pearce@21:1/5 to rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl on Wed Aug 18 13:32:05 2021
    On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 14:20:01 +0200, Rink
    <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> wrote:

    Op 17-8-2021 om 18:16 schreef Don Pearce:
    On Tue, 17 Aug 2021 17:37:56 +0200, Rink
    <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> wrote:

    It's not that simple.

    A person with XY can be a woman.
    Ever heard of the Swyer Syndrome?
    46, XX Intersex?
    46, XY Intersex?
    etc.

    Here are some exceptions of "the XX/XY-law":

    I'm not interested in rare medical exceptions. I've already said that
    special provision must be made for them. I am talking about your
    common-or-garden gender switcher.

    d



    I only want to show you
    that XY is not always a man
    and XX is not always a woman.

    Rink

    I know. And I then explained why that was not relevant to my point.
    There's a useful saying - "hard cases make bad law".

    d

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