On 10/12/2022 3:18 pm, Scott Dorsey wrote:

I think this is pretty clearly a prop mike but I figure Roy Rising will
know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYj2hex99gY

The body is so short!
--scott

Looks like a sawn-off silver C535 ;-o

geoff

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I think this is pretty clearly a prop mike but I figure Roy Rising will
know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYj2hex99gY

The body is so short!
--scott
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On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 6:58:19 PM UTC-8, geoff wrote:

On 10/12/2022 3:18 pm, Scott Dorsey wrote:

I think this is pretty clearly a prop mike but I figure Roy Rising will know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYj2hex99gY

The body is so short!
--scott

Looks like a sawn-off silver C535 ;-o

geoff

Thanks Scott, for thinking of me. I agree with Geoff, it resembles an AKG C535 ... at least the head. That mic's electronics are in the part that would have been 'sawn-off'! It's not a prop, here's the 'full' version on the Andy Williams show. https:/
/www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0EBs6uRgtw . Williams intros the number, holding it and talking. Now, this could have been picked on the boom mic, just to fool us. However, Hatfield's performance differs slightly from the commercial recording and the show's
orchestra certainly could have played it.

I'm still in touch with a friend who worked at NBC Burbank in that era. I'll ask him if he knows, and get back to the thread with his response.

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Here is a better version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0EBs6uRgtw

In this:

1. You can see him pick the microphone up and see it removed from the clip.
2. It is identified as the Andy Williams show.
--scott


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On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 4:09:36 PM UTC-8, Scott Dorsey wrote:

Here is a better version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0EBs6uRgtw

In this:

1. You can see him pick the microphone up and see it removed from the clip. 2. It is identified as the Andy Williams show.
--scott

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That's the "full version" clip I mentioned. While I await input from my "NBC Friend", here's another thought:

The Andy Willams show was mixed by Bill Cole, a knowledgeable and innovative Engineer. He introduced the "Hurdy Gurdy Speaker" ... a small box with shoulder straps that could b deployed "as close as possible" to feed the orchestra or playback to a
performer singing on a boom mic. He might have asked the folks in the audio shop to modify an AKG C-535 by replicating the electronics in a smaller form to allow shortening the handle. Here's what's inside: https://www.gennlab.com/15_AKG_C535EB_
Amplifier.jpg. The cable looks thinner and appears to come out of the mic with no connector. Also, it certainly was not a prop. Hatfield altered the lyrics, the piano was weak, the strings were more present and there's a guitar playing some pleasant
figures, not heard in the original track.

If you notice the "sound", it's wrong. ~ Roy W. Rising

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On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:39:40 AM UTC-8, Roy W. Rising wrote:

On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 4:09:36 PM UTC-8, Scott Dorsey wrote:

Here is a better version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0EBs6uRgtw

In this:

1. You can see him pick the microphone up and see it removed from the clip.
2. It is identified as the Andy Williams show.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

That's the "full version" clip I mentioned. While I await input from my "NBC Friend", here's another thought:

The Andy Willams show was mixed by Bill Cole, a knowledgeable and innovative Engineer. He introduced the "Hurdy Gurdy Speaker" ... a small box with shoulder straps that could b deployed "as close as possible" to feed the orchestra or playback to a

performer singing on a boom mic. He might have asked the folks in the audio shop to modify an AKG C-535 by replicating the electronics in a smaller form to allow shortening the handle. Here's what's inside: https://www.gennlab.com/15_AKG_C535EB_Amplifier.
jpg. The cable looks thinner and appears to come out of the mic with no connector. Also, it certainly was not a prop. Hatfield altered the lyrics, the piano was weak, the strings were more present and there's a guitar playing some pleasant figures, not
heard in the original track.

If you notice the "sound", it's wrong. ~ Roy W. Rising

I saw my NBC friend at a retiree's luncheon this week. He didn't know the mic, but said that Cole wouldn't have thought twice about asking the the Audio Maintenance shop to perform the modification. He agreed that Williams might have said "I don't want
that 'thing' sticking out the bottom of my hand".

Merry Christmas to all!

If you notice the "sound", it's wrong. ~ Roy W. Rising

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Okay, a friend identified it, and we're all kind of right and kind of wrong.

It's an Altec lipstick mike with an AKG grille attached to it. The cable and the clip are the giveaways that it's an Altec!
--scott

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On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 5:43:26 PM UTC-5, Scott Dorsey wrote:

Okay, a friend identified it, and we're all kind of right and kind of wrong.

It's an Altec lipstick mike with an AKG grille attached to it. The cable and the clip are the giveaways that it's an Altec!
--scott

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