• Original docs, Smirnov

    From mINE109@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 10:14:15 2024
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24435391-240220-smirnov-detention

    For future reference: Russia, Russia, Russia.

    I guess those 51 spooks feel vindicated.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Feb 21 13:25:26 2024
    On 2/21/24 11:01 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 8:14:18 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24435391-240220-smirnov-detention

    For future reference: Russia, Russia, Russia.

    I guess those 51 spooks feel vindicated.

    Only a bubble boy could jump from this FBI debacle to Hunter's
    laptop. As you grow old those bubble walls get....distorted.

    It's not only me. Why would the Russia pipeline only work for double agents?

    Anyway, the FBI has been paying this guy as a highly trusted, valued,
    and vetted human source for how long before suddenly deciding he
    isn't?

    Maybe when he started embellishing his story.

    Well, the FBI did shut down the investigation before House Republicans
    insisted on airing dicey info.

    And why didn't they discover the lack of supporting travel docs back
    when he first made the statement? Did they not bother to vet his
    reports? Hmmm....why not?

    Scott Brady lied about it.

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24432676-231023-scott-brady-redacted

    Q And can you tell us about the process that your office went through to
    vet the information that's now contained in this FD-1023?

    Mr. Lelling. You can speak generally to that. I would not get into details.

    Mr. Brady. So we attempted to use open-source material to check against
    what was stated in the 1023. We also interfaced with the CHS' handler
    about certain statements relating to travel and meetings to see if they
    were consistent with his or her understanding.

    Q And did you determine if the information was consistent with the
    handler's understanding?

    A What we were able to identify, we found that it was consistent. And so
    we felt that there were sufficient indicia of credibility in this 1023
    to pass it on to an office that had a predicated grand jury investigation.

    End quote.

    Seems like they just buried it until the House committee forced 'em
    to give up the report.

    Why would the FBI not do their due diligence until now?

    The FBI was doing their job. Bill Barr took it out of their hands
    sending it to the Delaware AUSA.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Wed Feb 21 14:46:26 2024
    On 2/21/24 2:34 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 11:14:18 AM UTC-5, mINE109 wrote:
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24435391-240220-smirnov-detention

    For future reference: Russia, Russia, Russia.

    I guess those 51 spooks feel vindicated.

    The spooks can try to dig dig up the imaginary smelly mattress that Trumps. supposed whores supposedlypised on,
    and put it in Smirnovs cell, That is the only true path to vindication

    Also Russian disinformation.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Thu Feb 22 10:14:04 2024
    On 2/21/24 8:56 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 11:25:31 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 2/21/24 11:01 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 8:14:18 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24435391-240220-smirnov-detention >>
    For future reference: Russia, Russia, Russia.

    I guess those 51 spooks feel vindicated.

    Only a bubble boy could jump from this FBI debacle to Hunter's
    laptop. As you grow old those bubble walls get....distorted.
    It's not only me. Why would the Russia pipeline only work for double agents?

    Give it a rest. The laptop authenticity is no longer in question.
    Not to the FBI, the DoJ, or anyone with a brain.

    On the contrary. The "laptop" hasn't been indexed and all evidence cited
    was from cloud backups including backups of other devices. It's also not
    clear Hunter was in control of those devices at all times.

    Anyway, the FBI has been paying this guy as a highly trusted, valued,
    and vetted human source for how long before suddenly deciding he
    isn't?
    Maybe when he started embellishing his story.

    Well, the FBI did shut down the investigation before House Republicans
    insisted on airing dicey info.
    And why didn't they discover the lack of supporting travel docs back
    when he first made the statement? Did they not bother to vet his
    reports? Hmmm....why not?
    Scott Brady lied about it.

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24432676-231023-scott-brady-redacted >>
    Q And can you tell us about the process that your office went through to
    vet the information that's now contained in this FD-1023?

    Mr. Lelling. You can speak generally to that. I would not get into details. >>
    Mr. Brady. So we attempted to use open-source material to check against
    what was stated in the 1023. We also interfaced with the CHS' handler
    about certain statements relating to travel and meetings to see if they
    were consistent with his or her understanding.

    Q And did you determine if the information was consistent with the
    handler's understanding?

    A What we were able to identify, we found that it was consistent. And so
    we felt that there were sufficient indicia of credibility in this 1023
    to pass it on to an office that had a predicated grand jury investigation.

    And you're able to conclude that is a lie? Wow. Those bubble glasses are crazy thick.

    He was wrong, wasn't he? When someone else looked into it, the claims
    were found false.

    Why wasn't a grand jury with subpoena power convened to further look into this?

    Weiss does have a grand jury in California, so I don't know what you mean.

    Weiss charged Smirnov when Hunter's lawyer asked for discovery, which
    would have revealed the Barr/Brady evidential backdoor. Don't forget
    Weiss is a witness in this and can't investigate himself.

    In the end...all they had to do was verify the existence of lack of international trips.
    But they never did for any of this....until now.
    Seems like they almost were afraid of what they might find.

    That Smirnov was unreliable and handled by Russian intelligence? Yes,
    they definitely didn't want to know that.

    End quote.
    Seems like they just buried it until the House committee forced 'em
    to give up the report.

    Why would the FBI not do their due diligence until now?
    The FBI was doing their job. Bill Barr took it out of their hands
    sending it to the Delaware AUSA.

    Nothing in that testimony says the FBI was told to stop.

    On the contrary, Trump's DoJ guys kept the investigation going when the
    FBI intended to drop it.

    The Hunter plea was based on the FBI's intent to not pursue FARA
    charges. Then the Smirnov 1023 emerged.

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