• Re: A Twitter thread you should study.

    From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Jan 24 12:53:05 2024
    On 1/24/24 11:49 AM, ScottW wrote:
    Because this is truly the beginning of the end of the Biden crime syndicate.

    https://twitter.com/GOPoversight/status/1749794250793881992

    Gonna guess this is about Comer's Oversight Committee.

    https://news.yahoo.com/transcript-blows-james-comer-entire-191923684.html

    "The House Oversight Committee on Tuesday released the transcript of the testimony of Kevin Morris, a friend of and attorney for Hunter Biden,
    and his statements undercut everything Republicans have said about the embattled first son."

    Turns out Comer's initial release was misleadingly cherry-picked.

    "Morris’s lawyer accused Comer last week of grossly misrepresenting what Morris actually said during his deposition. Bryan Sullivan slammed
    Comer’s “cherry‐picked, out of context and totally misleading” press release and demanded the representative release the full transcript."

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Thu Jan 25 15:56:13 2024
    On 1/25/24 11:17 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 1/24/24 11:49 AM, ScottW wrote:
    Because this is truly the beginning of the end of the Biden crime syndicate.

    https://twitter.com/GOPoversight/status/1749794250793881992
    Gonna guess this is about Comer's Oversight Committee.

    https://news.yahoo.com/transcript-blows-james-comer-entire-191923684.html

    "The House Oversight Committee on Tuesday released the transcript of the
    testimony of Kevin Morris, a friend of and attorney for Hunter Biden,
    and his statements undercut everything Republicans have said about the
    embattled first son."

    Turns out Comer's initial release was misleadingly cherry-picked.

    "Morris’s lawyer accused Comer last week of grossly misrepresenting what >> Morris actually said during his deposition. Bryan Sullivan slammed
    Comer’s “cherry‐picked, out of context and totally misleading” press >> release and demanded the representative release the full transcript."

    So you won't read the transcript but you'll read the "spin". Typical.
    You never could think for yourself.

    I presume you linked Comer's spin. How is it "spin" to supply the facts
    in rebuttal? You'll remember how doggedly Art held onto Comer's Devon
    Archer spin shown untrue by the transcript.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/24/hunter-biden-kevin-morris-impeachment-inquiry/

    (paywall but text view worked}

    tl/dr

    Comer: Morris lent to Hunter without expecting repayment

    Morris: did not

    Longer:

    "...consider how Comer framed all of this. That the two met at a
    fundraiser and then Morris began paying Hunter Biden’s tax bills to
    insulate Joe Biden. That these were “loans” — implying they weren’t. That this generosity granted Morris dubious access to Joe Biden. None of
    this is justified by Morris’s testimony; Comer is instead simply trying
    to frame Morris’s testimony in negative terms.

    He does so, presumably, because he knows that his close allies in
    right-wing media will not read the primary document and because he is
    signaling how the testimony should be contextualized."

    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Morris_Redacted.pdf

    If you were linking to something else, please quote it.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Jan 26 13:46:41 2024
    On 1/26/24 10:33 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 1:56:21 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 1/25/24 11:17 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-8, mINE109
    wrote:
    On 1/24/24 11:49 AM, ScottW wrote:
    Because this is truly the beginning of the end of the Biden
    crime syndicate.

    https://twitter.com/GOPoversight/status/1749794250793881992
    Gonna guess this is about Comer's Oversight Committee.

    https://news.yahoo.com/transcript-blows-james-comer-entire-191923684.html >>>>

    "The House Oversight Committee on Tuesday released the transcript of the >>>> testimony of Kevin Morris, a friend of and attorney for Hunter
    Biden, and his statements undercut everything Republicans have
    said about the embattled first son."

    Turns out Comer's initial release was misleadingly
    cherry-picked.

    "Morris’s lawyer accused Comer last week of grossly
    misrepresenting what Morris actually said during his
    deposition. Bryan Sullivan slammed Comer’s “cherry‐picked, out
    of context and totally misleading” press release and demanded
    the representative release the full transcript."

    So you won't read the transcript but you'll read the "spin".
    Typical. You never could think for yourself.
    I presume you linked Comer's spin. How is it "spin" to supply the
    facts

    You have a funny definition of the facts.

    No, it's the usual definition: objective, falsifiable, etc.

    You won't read what was said but will jump all in on a 3rd party interpretation. You have the link on the redacted transcript which
    you know is all they can release for now. It's damning....and all the
    pig squealing shows how damning it truly is.

    You snipped the link to the transcript that I read. The redactions are
    minor, which you would know if *you* had read it.

    What's damning is Comer misrepresenting the contents.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Jan 27 09:31:34 2024
    On 1/26/24 4:04 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 11:46:50 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 1/26/24 10:33 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 1:56:21 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 1/25/24 11:17 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-8, mINE109
    wrote:
    On 1/24/24 11:49 AM, ScottW wrote:
    Because this is truly the beginning of the end of the Biden
    crime syndicate.

    https://twitter.com/GOPoversight/status/1749794250793881992
    Gonna guess this is about Comer's Oversight Committee.

    https://news.yahoo.com/transcript-blows-james-comer-entire-191923684.html


    "The House Oversight Committee on Tuesday released the transcript of the >>>>>> testimony of Kevin Morris, a friend of and attorney for Hunter
    Biden, and his statements undercut everything Republicans have
    said about the embattled first son."

    Turns out Comer's initial release was misleadingly
    cherry-picked.

    "Morris’s lawyer accused Comer last week of grossly
    misrepresenting what Morris actually said during his
    deposition. Bryan Sullivan slammed Comer’s “cherry‐picked, out >>>>>> of context and totally misleading” press release and demanded
    the representative release the full transcript."

    So you won't read the transcript but you'll read the "spin".
    Typical. You never could think for yourself.
    I presume you linked Comer's spin. How is it "spin" to supply the
    facts

    You have a funny definition of the facts.
    No, it's the usual definition: objective,

    That first one is a brick wall upon which your brain remains splattered.

    I'm up on the definition of objective. No walls or splatter.

    falsifiable, etc.
    You won't read what was said but will jump all in on a 3rd party
    interpretation. You have the link on the redacted transcript which
    you know is all they can release for now. It's damning....and all the
    pig squealing shows how damning it truly is.
    You snipped the link to the transcript that I read. The redactions are
    minor, which you would know if *you* had read it.

    Exactly...so you have no excuse in not reading it.

    What's damning is Comer misrepresenting the contents.

    Except he clearly did not. And that is objective fact.

    The fact is he said it showed things it does not, in this case the
    nature of Morris's loans.

    His party support is weakening, although it must be said the sources for
    the following piece are also idiots for wanting to impeach without evidence.

    https://themessenger.com/politics/republicans-turn-on-their-impeachment-chairman-a-parade-of-embarrassments-exclusive

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Jan 27 11:23:40 2024
    On 1/27/24 10:42 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 7:31:36 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 1/26/24 4:04 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 11:46:50 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 1/26/24 10:33 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 1:56:21 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 1/25/24 11:17 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-8, mINE109
    wrote:
    On 1/24/24 11:49 AM, ScottW wrote:
    Because this is truly the beginning of the end of the Biden
    crime syndicate.

    https://twitter.com/GOPoversight/status/1749794250793881992
    Gonna guess this is about Comer's Oversight Committee.

    https://news.yahoo.com/transcript-blows-james-comer-entire-191923684.html


    "The House Oversight Committee on Tuesday released the transcript of the
    testimony of Kevin Morris, a friend of and attorney for Hunter >>>>>>>> Biden, and his statements undercut everything Republicans have >>>>>>>> said about the embattled first son."

    Turns out Comer's initial release was misleadingly
    cherry-picked.

    "Morris’s lawyer accused Comer last week of grossly
    misrepresenting what Morris actually said during his
    deposition. Bryan Sullivan slammed Comer’s “cherry‐picked, out >>>>>>>> of context and totally misleading” press release and demanded >>>>>>>> the representative release the full transcript."

    So you won't read the transcript but you'll read the "spin".
    Typical. You never could think for yourself.
    I presume you linked Comer's spin. How is it "spin" to supply the
    facts

    You have a funny definition of the facts.
    No, it's the usual definition: objective,

    That first one is a brick wall upon which your brain remains splattered.
    I'm up on the definition of objective. No walls or splatter.
    falsifiable, etc.
    You won't read what was said but will jump all in on a 3rd party
    interpretation. You have the link on the redacted transcript which
    you know is all they can release for now. It's damning....and all the >>>>> pig squealing shows how damning it truly is.
    You snipped the link to the transcript that I read. The redactions are >>>> minor, which you would know if *you* had read it.

    Exactly...so you have no excuse in not reading it.

    What's damning is Comer misrepresenting the contents.

    Except he clearly did not. And that is objective fact.
    The fact is he said it showed things it does not, in this case the
    nature of Morris's loans.

    Loans for everyone. Every sleazy transaction is a loan.
    And this one has zero interest and may be forgiven.

    Morris said there's a valid promissory note with a "legal interest
    rate." That it could be forgiven is Comer speculation due to fact that
    the loans may not yet be due.

    Can you get a loan like that?

    Yes, from family, friends or anyone who knows how to draft a legal
    promissory note.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Jan 28 12:46:55 2024
    On 1/27/24 7:02 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 9:23:45 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 1/27/24 10:42 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 7:31:36 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 1/26/24 4:04 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 11:46:50 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 1/26/24 10:33 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 1:56:21 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 1/25/24 11:17 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-8, mINE109 >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 1/24/24 11:49 AM, ScottW wrote:
    Because this is truly the beginning of the end of the Biden >>>>>>>>>>> crime syndicate.

    https://twitter.com/GOPoversight/status/1749794250793881992 >>>>>>>>>> Gonna guess this is about Comer's Oversight Committee.

    https://news.yahoo.com/transcript-blows-james-comer-entire-191923684.html


    "The House Oversight Committee on Tuesday released the transcript of the
    testimony of Kevin Morris, a friend of and attorney for Hunter >>>>>>>>>> Biden, and his statements undercut everything Republicans have >>>>>>>>>> said about the embattled first son."

    Turns out Comer's initial release was misleadingly
    cherry-picked.

    "Morris’s lawyer accused Comer last week of grossly
    misrepresenting what Morris actually said during his
    deposition. Bryan Sullivan slammed Comer’s “cherry‐picked, out >>>>>>>>>> of context and totally misleading” press release and demanded >>>>>>>>>> the representative release the full transcript."

    So you won't read the transcript but you'll read the "spin". >>>>>>>>> Typical. You never could think for yourself.
    I presume you linked Comer's spin. How is it "spin" to supply the >>>>>>>> facts

    You have a funny definition of the facts.
    No, it's the usual definition: objective,

    That first one is a brick wall upon which your brain remains splattered. >>>> I'm up on the definition of objective. No walls or splatter.
    falsifiable, etc.
    You won't read what was said but will jump all in on a 3rd party >>>>>>> interpretation. You have the link on the redacted transcript which >>>>>>> you know is all they can release for now. It's damning....and all the >>>>>>> pig squealing shows how damning it truly is.
    You snipped the link to the transcript that I read. The redactions are >>>>>> minor, which you would know if *you* had read it.

    Exactly...so you have no excuse in not reading it.

    What's damning is Comer misrepresenting the contents.

    Except he clearly did not. And that is objective fact.
    The fact is he said it showed things it does not, in this case the
    nature of Morris's loans.

    Loans for everyone. Every sleazy transaction is a loan.
    And this one has zero interest and may be forgiven.
    Morris said there's a valid promissory note with a "legal interest
    rate." That it could be forgiven is Comer speculation due to fact that
    the loans may not yet be due.
    Can you get a loan like that?
    Yes, from family, friends or anyone who knows how to draft a legal
    promissory note.

    From the transcript, "So each time that Hunter Biden gets a loan from you, does he have to come to you
    18 and tell you what he's getting that loan for?
    19 A Hunter doesn't ask -- Hunter doesn't come to me. He's never asked me for 20 anything. I've done these things voluntarily. I have an idea of what they were, and I
    21 keep a record. And the ones that are absolutely necessary I take care of with a loan. "

    He's Hunter's sugar Daddy.

    Sugar daddies don't do promissory notes and that term better describes
    the Leonard Leo circle of grift that rewards judges with gifts, trips,
    meals, etc.

    Speaking of newly-released transcripts that show they were
    misrepresented by Republicans, Hunter's art didn't sell for the
    extraordinary sums the NYPost claimed.

    The claim:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/13/arts/design/hunter-biden-art-white-house.html

    Sub-hed: Hunter Biden’s works are being offered for as much as $500,000 apiece

    The truth:

    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Berges_Redacted-w_Witness-Errata-Sheet.pdf

    [Q] ...is it accurate that the $85,000 purchased by Buyer D and the
    $75,000 purchase by Buyer B are the two most expensive pieces of art
    that were sold to any buyer of Hunter Biden's artwork that is listed out
    here. Is that correct?

    Mr. Berges. That's correct.

    End excerpt.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Jan 29 08:49:55 2024
    On 1/28/24 3:22 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 10:47:00 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 1/27/24 7:02 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 9:23:45 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 1/27/24 10:42 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 7:31:36 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:

    What's damning is Comer misrepresenting the contents.

    Except he clearly did not. And that is objective fact.
    The fact is he said it showed things it does not, in this case the >>>>>> nature of Morris's loans.

    Loans for everyone. Every sleazy transaction is a loan.
    And this one has zero interest and may be forgiven.
    Morris said there's a valid promissory note with a "legal interest
    rate." That it could be forgiven is Comer speculation due to fact that >>>> the loans may not yet be due.
    Can you get a loan like that?
    Yes, from family, friends or anyone who knows how to draft a legal
    promissory note.

    From the transcript, "So each time that Hunter Biden gets a loan from you, does he have to come to you
    18 and tell you what he's getting that loan for?
    19 A Hunter doesn't ask -- Hunter doesn't come to me. He's never asked me for
    20 anything. I've done these things voluntarily. I have an idea of what they were, and I
    21 keep a record. And the ones that are absolutely necessary I take care of with a loan. "

    He's Hunter's sugar Daddy.
    Sugar daddies don't do promissory notes

    Show us the notes. He claims he "loaned money" Hunter never asked for.
    How does that work?

    Morris was Hunter's attorney. The IRS "asked for" tax payments that
    Morris paid on his behalf. It's all explained in the transcript. It's
    almost as if you won't accept answers to your questions.

    Entertainment lawyers are known to lend to their clients. Think of
    sports agents lending to an athlete in advance of a contract.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Jan 29 18:19:09 2024
    On 1/29/24 6:02 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Show us the notes. He claims he "loaned money" Hunter never asked for.
    How does that work?
    Morris was Hunter's attorney.

    And the Ca. Bar prohibits an attorney from lending their clients money. Apparently, they don't want "attorney-client" privilege to extend to coverup of laundering money.

    You're misreading the rule:

    https://www.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/0/documents/rules/Rule_1.8.5-Exec_Summary-Redline.pdf

    If you stopped here, you might be right:

    (a) A lawyer shall not directly or indirectly pay or agree to pay,
    guarantee, or represent that the lawyer or lawyer's law firm* will pay
    the personal or business expenses of a prospective or existing client.

    But if you continue:

    (b) Notwithstanding paragraph (a), a lawyer may:

    (2) after the lawyer is retained by the client, agree to lend money to
    the client based on the client's written* promise to repay the loan,
    provided the lawyer complies with rules 1.7(b), 1.7(c), and 1.8.1 before
    making the loanor agreeing to do so;

    Hence the importance of the promissory note of which Morris testified.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Thu Feb 1 09:40:44 2024
    On 1/31/24 6:42 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 4:19:12 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 1/29/24 6:02 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Show us the notes. He claims he "loaned money" Hunter never asked for. >>>>> How does that work?
    Morris was Hunter's attorney.

    And the Ca. Bar prohibits an attorney from lending their clients money.
    Apparently, they don't want "attorney-client" privilege to extend to coverup
    of laundering money.
    You're misreading the rule:

    https://www.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/0/documents/rules/Rule_1.8.5-Exec_Summary-Redline.pdf

    If you stopped here, you might be right:

    (a) A lawyer shall not directly or indirectly pay or agree to pay,
    guarantee, or represent that the lawyer or lawyer's law firm* will pay
    the personal or business expenses of a prospective or existing client.

    But if you continue:

    (b) Notwithstanding paragraph (a), a lawyer may:

    (2) after the lawyer is retained by the client, agree to lend money to
    the client based on the client's written* promise to repay the loan,
    provided the lawyer complies with rules 1.7(b), 1.7(c), and 1.8.1 before
    making the loanor agreeing to do so;

    Hence the importance of the promissory note of which Morris testified.

    More importantly the testimony that the loans were "forgivable" which
    makes them not a loan.

    I missed that in the testimony. Could you point out where Morris (not
    Comer) calls them "forgivable"?

    Of course, all loans are forgivable, for instance when Deutsche Bank
    forgave loans to Trump rather than go to the trouble of trying to collect.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/lenders-forgave-287-million-in-unpaid-debt-by-trump-report-11603844181

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Feb 2 14:09:10 2024
    On 2/2/24 11:40 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 7:40:47 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 1/31/24 6:42 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 4:19:12 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 1/29/24 6:02 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Show us the notes. He claims he "loaned money" Hunter never asked for. >>>>>>> How does that work?
    Morris was Hunter's attorney.

    And the Ca. Bar prohibits an attorney from lending their clients money. >>>>> Apparently, they don't want "attorney-client" privilege to extend to coverup
    of laundering money.
    You're misreading the rule:

    https://www.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/0/documents/rules/Rule_1.8.5-Exec_Summary-Redline.pdf

    If you stopped here, you might be right:

    (a) A lawyer shall not directly or indirectly pay or agree to pay,
    guarantee, or represent that the lawyer or lawyer's law firm* will pay >>>> the personal or business expenses of a prospective or existing client. >>>>
    But if you continue:

    (b) Notwithstanding paragraph (a), a lawyer may:

    (2) after the lawyer is retained by the client, agree to lend money to >>>> the client based on the client's written* promise to repay the loan,
    provided the lawyer complies with rules 1.7(b), 1.7(c), and 1.8.1 before >>>> making the loanor agreeing to do so;

    Hence the importance of the promissory note of which Morris testified.

    More importantly the testimony that the loans were "forgivable" which
    makes them not a loan.
    I missed that in the testimony. Could you point out where Morris (not
    Comer) calls them "forgivable"?

    https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-statement-on-transcribed-interview-with-kevin-morris%EF%BF%BC/#:~:text=Kevin%20Morris%27s%20financial%20support%20to,election%2C%20and%20could%20be%20forgiven.

    Comer has proven to be unreliable in his statements and all loans are forgivable, something that has worked to Trump's benefit concerning the
    Trump Towers Chicago.

    Show me where Morris said he intended to forgive the loans.

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