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  • Meanwhile, the drip drip drip of Biden crime continues

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 14 11:15:06 2023
    The FOIA has revealed the following email traffic between the three Bidens:

    19,335 emails from Hunter’s investment firm, Rosemont Seneca, to Joe Biden 4,243 from Hunter to Joe
    3,738 from Jim Biden’s firm, Lion Hall Group, to Joe
    1,751 from Jim Biden to Joe

    ScottW

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Oct 15 08:06:41 2023
    On 15/10/2023 5:15 am, ScottW wrote:
    The FOIA has revealed the following email traffic between the three Bidens:

    19,335 emails from Hunter’s investment firm, Rosemont Seneca, to Joe Biden 4,243 from Hunter to Joe
    3,738 from Jim Biden’s firm, Lion Hall Group, to Joe
    1,751 from Jim Biden to Joe

    ScottW

    **Would you like to compare the alleged criminal offences committed by
    Joe Biden with those committed by Trump and his crime syndicate?

    --
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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Oct 14 16:04:58 2023
    On 10/14/23 1:15 PM, ScottW wrote:
    The FOIA has revealed the following email traffic between the three Bidens:

    19,335 emails from Hunter’s investment firm, Rosemont Seneca, to Joe Biden

    cc'ed on Hunter calendar updates?

    4,243 from Hunter to Joe
    3,738 from Jim Biden’s firm, Lion Hall Group, to Joe
    1,751 from Jim Biden to Joe

    Small potatoes, crime-wise

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Sat Oct 14 16:52:05 2023
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 2:06:44 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 15/10/2023 5:15 am, ScottW wrote:
    The FOIA has revealed the following email traffic between the three Bidens:

    19,335 emails from Hunter’s investment firm, Rosemont Seneca, to Joe Biden
    4,243 from Hunter to Joe
    3,738 from Jim Biden’s firm, Lion Hall Group, to Joe
    1,751 from Jim Biden to Joe

    ScottW
    **Would you like to compare the alleged criminal offences committed by
    Joe Biden with those committed by Trump and his crime syndicate?

    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com

    Go for it....start with the classified docs found in Joe's garage with sections missing.
    And the recently revealed fact of an aide doing inventory of them a year before they
    claimed they were "discovered" in Joe's garage. And don't forget that he took them as a Senator
    who in no possible way had any authority to do so.

    If you can get past that....we'll move on to who took more bribe money.

    ScottW

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Oct 14 16:58:21 2023
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 4:52:06 PM UTC-7, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 2:06:44 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 15/10/2023 5:15 am, ScottW wrote:
    The FOIA has revealed the following email traffic between the three Bidens:

    19,335 emails from Hunter’s investment firm, Rosemont Seneca, to Joe Biden
    4,243 from Hunter to Joe
    3,738 from Jim Biden’s firm, Lion Hall Group, to Joe
    1,751 from Jim Biden to Joe

    ScottW
    **Would you like to compare the alleged criminal offences committed by
    Joe Biden with those committed by Trump and his crime syndicate?

    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
    Go for it....start with the classified docs found in Joe's garage with sections missing.
    And the recently revealed fact of an aide doing inventory of them a year before they
    claimed they were "discovered" in Joe's garage. And don't forget that he took them as a Senator
    who in no possible way had any authority to do so.

    If you can get past that....we'll move on to who took more bribe money.

    ScottW

    Here Trevor....let me help you out as I know you wouldn't know WTF is really going on and the SMH isnt' going to give you a clue.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/4254963-new-evidence-may-destroy-bidens-defense-in-his-classified-documents-case/

    ScottW

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Oct 15 11:21:21 2023
    On 15/10/2023 10:52 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 2:06:44 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 15/10/2023 5:15 am, ScottW wrote:
    The FOIA has revealed the following email traffic between the three Bidens: >>>
    19,335 emails from Hunter’s investment firm, Rosemont Seneca, to Joe Biden
    4,243 from Hunter to Joe
    3,738 from Jim Biden’s firm, Lion Hall Group, to Joe
    1,751 from Jim Biden to Joe

    ScottW
    **Would you like to compare the alleged criminal offences committed by
    Joe Biden with those committed by Trump and his crime syndicate?

    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
    www.avast.com

    Go for it....start with the classified docs found in Joe's garage with sections missing.

    **Sure. Biden should be punished for doing what Trump did (though
    Trump's crimes were on a MUCH larger scale AND Trump deliberately lied
    to investigators and attempted to destroy evidence). So, yeah, let's
    subject Trump and Biden to the same scrutiny. Let's see who ends up in
    jail.

    And the recently revealed fact of an aide doing inventory of them a year before they
    claimed they were "discovered" in Joe's garage. And don't forget that he took them as a Senator
    who in no possible way had any authority to do so.

    **Sure. As did Trump. Trump also illegally stole papers he was not
    entitled to and when it was discovered, Trump attempted to cover-up and destroy. Did Biden do that?


    If you can get past that....we'll move on to who took more bribe money.

    **We may never know how much Trump took from Putin.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Oct 15 08:02:09 2023
    On 10/14/23 6:52 PM, ScottW wrote:
    we'll move on to who took more bribe money.

    Emoluments.

    https://www.theusconstitution.org/litigation/trump-and-foreign-emoluments-clause/

    Lawsuits were mooted when Trump left office. The lesson for future
    presidents is to time un-Constitutional business activity such that
    lawsuits will be delayed until their term runs out.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Oct 15 08:10:32 2023
    On 10/14/23 6:58 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Here Trevor....let me help you out as I know you wouldn't know WTF is really going on and the SMH isnt' going to give you a clue.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/4254963-new-evidence-may-destroy-bidens-defense-in-his-classified-documents-case/

    FYI, Trevor, Turley is widely considered "beclowned," a "shameless hack."

    https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/turley-impeachment-hypocrisy/

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/laurence-tribe-rails-against-hack-jonathan-turley-doesnt-know-what-hes-talking-about/

    If you want something more scholarly than a ticked-off Harvard
    Constitutional Law professor emeritus:

    https://scholarship.kentlaw.iit.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4323&context=cklawreview

    "Impeachment as a ‘Madisonian Device’ Reconsidered"

    Amanda Hollis-Brusky Pomona College

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Sun Oct 15 08:29:59 2023
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 5:21:25 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 15/10/2023 10:52 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 2:06:44 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 15/10/2023 5:15 am, ScottW wrote:
    The FOIA has revealed the following email traffic between the three Bidens:

    19,335 emails from Hunter’s investment firm, Rosemont Seneca, to Joe Biden
    4,243 from Hunter to Joe
    3,738 from Jim Biden’s firm, Lion Hall Group, to Joe
    1,751 from Jim Biden to Joe

    ScottW
    **Would you like to compare the alleged criminal offences committed by
    Joe Biden with those committed by Trump and his crime syndicate?

    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
    www.avast.com

    Go for it....start with the classified docs found in Joe's garage with sections missing.
    **Sure. Biden should be punished for doing what Trump did (though
    Trump's crimes were on a MUCH larger scale

    It's not even clear that what Trump did was criminal as president.
    Joe's action as a senator are without doubt illegal.

    AND Trump deliberately lied

    Alleged but not proven.

    to investigators and attempted to destroy evidence). So, yeah, let's
    subject Trump and Biden to the same scrutiny. Let's see who ends up in
    jail.

    Same scrutiny? LoL. Compare the election altering investigation of Trump and all it's leaks
    with the near silent inquiry on Joe. Your statement is an ignorant Joke.


    And the recently revealed fact of an aide doing inventory of them a year before they
    claimed they were "discovered" in Joe's garage. And don't forget that he took them as a Senator
    who in no possible way had any authority to do so.
    **Sure. As did Trump.

    Now you're just being stupid beyond worthy of consideration.

    ScottW

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 15 09:35:47 2023
    Witless digs in.

    **Sure. As did Trump.
    Now you're just being stupid beyond worthy of consideration.

    Well argued, you drooling imbecile. Love those "facts".

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Oct 15 16:38:07 2023
    On 10/15/23 10:29 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 5:21:25 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 15/10/2023 10:52 am, ScottW wrote:

    Go for it....start with the classified docs found in Joe's garage with sections missing.
    **Sure. Biden should be punished for doing what Trump did (though
    Trump's crimes were on a MUCH larger scale

    It's not even clear that what Trump did was criminal as president.

    It's clear they're criminal with Trump as a former president.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 16 09:41:31 2023
    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 2:38:10 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 10/15/23 10:29 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 5:21:25 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 15/10/2023 10:52 am, ScottW wrote:

    Go for it....start with the classified docs found in Joe's garage with sections missing.
    **Sure. Biden should be punished for doing what Trump did (though
    Trump's crimes were on a MUCH larger scale

    It's not even clear that what Trump did was criminal as president.
    It's clear they're criminal with Trump as a former president.

    If the docs are no longer classified...everything else is moot.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Oct 16 13:38:16 2023
    On 10/16/23 11:41 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 2:38:10 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 10/15/23 10:29 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 5:21:25 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 15/10/2023 10:52 am, ScottW wrote:

    Go for it....start with the classified docs found in Joe's garage with sections missing.
    **Sure. Biden should be punished for doing what Trump did (though
    Trump's crimes were on a MUCH larger scale

    It's not even clear that what Trump did was criminal as president.
    It's clear they're criminal with Trump as a former president.

    If the docs are no longer classified...everything else is moot.

    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.audio.opinion/c/ZE75DsleHZM/m/Y1trsqxQCAAJ

    "The Presidential Records Act requires all presidential and
    vice-presidential documents be turned over to the National Archives.
    There are special protocols to keep classified information secure."

    How is this compatible with your belief the Act doesn't apply to
    non-classified material?

    Quoting you to show you know better.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 16 14:24:32 2023
    mINE109 wrote:

    If the docs are no longer classified...everything else is moot.
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.audio.opinion/c/ZE75DsleHZM/m/Y1trsqxQCAAJ

    "The Presidential Records Act requires all presidential and
    vice-presidential documents be turned over to the National Archives.
    There are special protocols to keep classified information secure."

    How is this compatible with your belief the Act doesn't apply to non-classified material?

    Quoting you to show you know better.

    Also, how many times has Idiot Baby said "I can do anything I want to"?

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Mon Oct 16 17:44:47 2023
    On 10/16/23 4:24 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    mINE109 wrote:

    If the docs are no longer classified...everything else is moot.
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.audio.opinion/c/ZE75DsleHZM/m/Y1trsqxQCAAJ >>
    "The Presidential Records Act requires all presidential and
    vice-presidential documents be turned over to the National Archives.
    There are special protocols to keep classified information secure."

    How is this compatible with your belief the Act doesn't apply to
    non-classified material?

    Quoting you to show you know better.

    Also, how many times has Idiot Baby said "I can do anything I want to"?

    He seems to have taken this morning's gag order as a dare.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 16 17:24:47 2023
    mINE109 wrote:

    Also, how many times has Idiot Baby said "I can do anything I want to"?
    He seems to have taken this morning's gag order as a dare.

    When Dumpy inevitably crosses that bright line, the judge won't dare lock
    him up. That leaves fining him for contempt. I'll bet the first fine
    will be $100K.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Mon Oct 16 22:11:15 2023
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 8:21:25 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 15/10/2023 10:52 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 2:06:44 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 15/10/2023 5:15 am, ScottW wrote:
    The FOIA has revealed the following email traffic between the three Bidens:

    19,335 emails from Hunter’s investment firm, Rosemont Seneca, to Joe Biden
    4,243 from Hunter to Joe
    3,738 from Jim Biden’s firm, Lion Hall Group, to Joe
    1,751 from Jim Biden to Joe

    ScottW
    **Would you like to compare the alleged criminal offences committed by
    Joe Biden with those committed by Trump and his crime syndicate?

    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
    www.avast.com

    Go for it....start with the classified docs found in Joe's garage with sections missing.
    **Sure. Biden should be punished for doing what Trump did (though
    Trump's crimes were on a MUCH larger scale AND Trump deliberately lied
    to investigators and attempted to destroy evidence). So, yeah, let's
    subject Trump and Biden to the same scrutiny. Let's see who ends up in
    jail.
    And the recently revealed fact of an aide doing inventory of them a year before they
    claimed they were "discovered" in Joe's garage. And don't forget that he took them as a Senator
    who in no possible way had any authority to do so.
    **Sure. As did Trump. Trump also illegally stole papers he was not
    entitled to and when it was discovered, Trump attempted to cover-up and destroy. Did Biden do that?

    If you can get past that....we'll move on to who took more bribe money.
    **We may never know how much Trump took from Putin.

    You can never know something that does not exist.

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Tue Oct 17 19:26:53 2023
    On 17/10/2023 4:11 pm, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 8:21:25 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 15/10/2023 10:52 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 2:06:44 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 15/10/2023 5:15 am, ScottW wrote:
    The FOIA has revealed the following email traffic between the three Bidens:

    19,335 emails from Hunter’s investment firm, Rosemont Seneca, to Joe Biden
    4,243 from Hunter to Joe
    3,738 from Jim Biden’s firm, Lion Hall Group, to Joe
    1,751 from Jim Biden to Joe

    ScottW
    **Would you like to compare the alleged criminal offences committed by >>>> Joe Biden with those committed by Trump and his crime syndicate?

    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
    www.avast.com

    Go for it....start with the classified docs found in Joe's garage with sections missing.
    **Sure. Biden should be punished for doing what Trump did (though
    Trump's crimes were on a MUCH larger scale AND Trump deliberately lied
    to investigators and attempted to destroy evidence). So, yeah, let's
    subject Trump and Biden to the same scrutiny. Let's see who ends up in
    jail.
    And the recently revealed fact of an aide doing inventory of them a year before they
    claimed they were "discovered" in Joe's garage. And don't forget that he took them as a Senator
    who in no possible way had any authority to do so.
    **Sure. As did Trump. Trump also illegally stole papers he was not
    entitled to and when it was discovered, Trump attempted to cover-up and
    destroy. Did Biden do that?

    If you can get past that....we'll move on to who took more bribe money.
    **We may never know how much Trump took from Putin.

    You can never know something that does not exist.

    **Explain Trump's admiration and rabid support for Putin.

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Wed Oct 18 13:46:40 2023
    On 17/10/2023 4:11 pm, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 8:21:25 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 15/10/2023 10:52 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 2:06:44 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 15/10/2023 5:15 am, ScottW wrote:
    The FOIA has revealed the following email traffic between the three Bidens:

    19,335 emails from Hunter’s investment firm, Rosemont Seneca, to Joe Biden
    4,243 from Hunter to Joe
    3,738 from Jim Biden’s firm, Lion Hall Group, to Joe
    1,751 from Jim Biden to Joe

    ScottW
    **Would you like to compare the alleged criminal offences committed by >>>> Joe Biden with those committed by Trump and his crime syndicate?

    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
    www.avast.com

    Go for it....start with the classified docs found in Joe's garage with sections missing.
    **Sure. Biden should be punished for doing what Trump did (though
    Trump's crimes were on a MUCH larger scale AND Trump deliberately lied
    to investigators and attempted to destroy evidence). So, yeah, let's
    subject Trump and Biden to the same scrutiny. Let's see who ends up in
    jail.
    And the recently revealed fact of an aide doing inventory of them a year before they
    claimed they were "discovered" in Joe's garage. And don't forget that he took them as a Senator
    who in no possible way had any authority to do so.
    **Sure. As did Trump. Trump also illegally stole papers he was not
    entitled to and when it was discovered, Trump attempted to cover-up and
    destroy. Did Biden do that?

    If you can get past that....we'll move on to who took more bribe money.
    **We may never know how much Trump took from Putin.

    You can never know something that does not exist.

    **Then there this:

    https://www.americanprogress.org/article/following-the-money/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Russia

    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/2/17/14622504/trump-russia-business-ties-fact-check

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Wed Oct 18 09:24:23 2023
    On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 7:46:45 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 17/10/2023 4:11 pm, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 8:21:25 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 15/10/2023 10:52 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 2:06:44 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 15/10/2023 5:15 am, ScottW wrote:
    The FOIA has revealed the following email traffic between the three Bidens:

    19,335 emails from Hunter’s investment firm, Rosemont Seneca, to Joe Biden
    4,243 from Hunter to Joe
    3,738 from Jim Biden’s firm, Lion Hall Group, to Joe
    1,751 from Jim Biden to Joe

    ScottW
    **Would you like to compare the alleged criminal offences committed by >>>> Joe Biden with those committed by Trump and his crime syndicate?

    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> www.avast.com

    Go for it....start with the classified docs found in Joe's garage with sections missing.
    **Sure. Biden should be punished for doing what Trump did (though
    Trump's crimes were on a MUCH larger scale AND Trump deliberately lied
    to investigators and attempted to destroy evidence). So, yeah, let's
    subject Trump and Biden to the same scrutiny. Let's see who ends up in
    jail.
    And the recently revealed fact of an aide doing inventory of them a year before they
    claimed they were "discovered" in Joe's garage. And don't forget that he took them as a Senator
    who in no possible way had any authority to do so.
    **Sure. As did Trump. Trump also illegally stole papers he was not
    entitled to and when it was discovered, Trump attempted to cover-up and >> destroy. Did Biden do that?

    If you can get past that....we'll move on to who took more bribe money. >> **We may never know how much Trump took from Putin.

    You can never know something that does not exist.
    **Then there this:

    https://www.americanprogress.org/article/following-the-money/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Russia

    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/2/17/14622504/trump-russia-business-ties-fact-check

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/


    Way too much garbage to wade through.

    Then there is this....

    https://www.google.com/search?q=biden+bribes&sca_esv=574468921&sxsrf=AM9HkKmjqjBbyvifsxgfLISO3m_MDL36ug%3A1697646212807&source=hp&ei=hAYwZbrvK7f3kPIP8Ou0sAg&iflsig=AO6bgOgAAAAAZTAUlOt0mb0WB0pdAnMU51H_Lq48UQHO&ved=0ahUKEwi6wdr7gICCAxW3O0QIHfA1DYYQ4dUDCA4&
    uact=5&oq=biden+bribes&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IgxiaWRlbiBicmliZXNItRxQyApYpRtwAXgAkAEAmAF4oAGMB6oBBDEwLjK4AQPIAQD4AQGoAgrCAgcQIxjqAhgnwgIEECMYJ8ICBxAjGIoFGCfCAggQLhixAxiABMICCxAuGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIREC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYxwEY0QPCAgUQABiABMICCBAAGIAEGLEDwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgw
    HCAg4QLhjHARixAxjRAxiABMICDhAuGIAEGLEDGMcBGNEDwgILEAAYigUYsQMYgwHCAggQABiABBjHA8ICCBAAGIoFGIYD&sclient=gws-wiz

    ScottW

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 09:28:48 2023
    RAO's junkyard dog senses an intrusion of reality. They lunge, jaws snapping furiously.

    **We may never know how much Trump took from Putin.

    You can never know something that does not exist.
    **Then there this:

    https://www.americanprogress.org/article/following-the-money/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Russia https://www.vox.com/world/2017/2/17/14622504/trump-russia-business-ties-fact-check
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/
    Way too much garbage to wade through.

    Translated from Witlessbabble, that means "you can't make me face reality! nyah-nyah-nyah!"

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Wed Oct 18 11:40:11 2023
    On 10/18/23 11:28 AM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    RAO's junkyard dog senses an intrusion of reality. They lunge, jaws snapping furiously.

    **We may never know how much Trump took from Putin.

    You can never know something that does not exist.
    **Then there this:

    https://www.americanprogress.org/article/following-the-money/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Russia >>> https://www.vox.com/world/2017/2/17/14622504/trump-russia-business-ties-fact-check
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/
    Way too much garbage to wade through.

    Translated from Witlessbabble, that means "you can't make me face reality! nyah-nyah-nyah!"

    Oh, no! Too much evidence!

    2nd time here for the Foreign Policy article.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 10:57:08 2023
    On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 9:40:15 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 10/18/23 11:28 AM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    RAO's junkyard dog senses an intrusion of reality. They lunge, jaws snapping furiously.

    **We may never know how much Trump took from Putin.

    You can never know something that does not exist.
    **Then there this:

    https://www.americanprogress.org/article/following-the-money/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Russia
    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/2/17/14622504/trump-russia-business-ties-fact-check
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/
    Way too much garbage to wade through.

    Translated from Witlessbabble, that means "you can't make me face reality! nyah-nyah-nyah!"
    Oh, no! Too much evidence!

    I started wading through that first piece of footnoted BS and quickly found the footnotes didn't
    provide the evidence the article implies.
    But footnotes do provide an air of authoritative research for morons.
    But I doubt you have ever read a footnote except in a dem party talking points memo.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Oct 18 15:10:38 2023
    On 10/18/23 12:57 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 9:40:15 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 10/18/23 11:28 AM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    RAO's junkyard dog senses an intrusion of reality. They lunge, jaws snapping furiously.

    **We may never know how much Trump took from Putin.

    You can never know something that does not exist.
    **Then there this:

    https://www.americanprogress.org/article/following-the-money/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Russia >>>>> https://www.vox.com/world/2017/2/17/14622504/trump-russia-business-ties-fact-check
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/
    Way too much garbage to wade through.

    Translated from Witlessbabble, that means "you can't make me face reality! nyah-nyah-nyah!"
    Oh, no! Too much evidence!

    I started wading through that first piece of footnoted BS and quickly found the footnotes didn't
    provide the evidence the article implies.

    I don't believe that.

    "Trump’s campaign to win the presidency required money, as did the Kremlin’s campaign to help him. While these two campaigns aligned in
    their goal—Trump’s victory3"

    Footnote 3 leads to https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

    "We assess with high confidence that Russian President Vladimir Putin
    ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential
    election, the consistent goals of which were to undermine public faith
    in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the
    Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump."

    But you didn't get that far, did you?

    Footnote 1 is the source for a John Adams quote from a Presidential address.

    Footnote 2 is the source for a John McCain quote.

    Etc.

    But footnotes do provide an air of authoritative research for morons.

    Properly sourced commentary makes you look bad, so you attack the
    concept of sourcing. Typical right-wing response.

    But I doubt you have ever read a footnote except in a dem party talking points memo.

    You've got to be kidding.

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