• Stupidest Lawsuit ever

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 17 09:32:40 2023
    and so wasteful of resources.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/california-sues-exxon-shell-and-bp-over-shameful-deception-sickens-you-to-your-core/ar-AA1gOQbj

    Who does Gavin think is going to really be paying for this if they are found liable?

    You and I will.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Sep 17 18:51:10 2023
    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 12:32:42 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
    and so wasteful of resources.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/california-sues-exxon-shell-and-bp-over-shameful-deception-sickens-you-to-your-core/ar-AA1gOQbj

    Who does Gavin think is going to really be paying for this if they are found liable?

    You and I will.


    ScottW

    Can we offset those supposed "damages" against the economic development of the past 100+ years?

    Were we supposed to go electric with the Model T? And the transcontinental railroad?
    And completely forego air travel as there never was any green alternative to piston and jet engines

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Sep 18 17:02:13 2023
    On 9/17/23 11:32 AM, ScottW wrote:
    and so wasteful of resources.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/california-sues-exxon-shell-and-bp-over-shameful-deception-sickens-you-to-your-core/ar-AA1gOQbj

    It was premature of Newsom to act in advance of this WSJ reporting:

    https://www.wsj.com/business/energy-oil/exxon-climate-change-documents-e2e9e6af

    Hed: Inside Exxon’s Strategy to Downplay Climate Change

    Paywall but quoted here:

    https://www.sej.org/headlines/inside-exxon-s-strategy-downplay-climate-change

    "ExxonMobil issued its first public statement that burning fossil fuels contributes to climate change in 2006, following years of denial. In
    public forums, the company argued that the risk of serious impact on the environment justified global action.

    Yet behind closed doors, Exxon took a very different tack: Its
    executives strategized over how to diminish concerns about warming temperatures, and they sought to muddle scientific findings that might
    hurt its oil-and-gas business, according to internal Exxon documents
    reviewed by The Wall Street Journal and interviews with former executives.

    Exxon’s public acceptance in 2006 of the risks posed by climate change
    was an early act of Rex Tillerson, an Exxon lifer who became CEO that
    year. Some viewed him as a moderating force who brought Exxon in line
    with the scientific consensus.

    The documents reviewed by the Journal, which haven’t been previously reported, cast Tillerson’s decadelong tenure in a different light. They
    show that Tillerson, as well as some of Exxon’s board directors and
    other top executives, sought to cast doubt on the severity of climate change’s impacts. Exxon scientists supported research that questioned
    the findings of mainstream climate science, even after the company said
    it would stop funding think tanks and others that promoted
    climate-change denial.

    Exxon is now a defendant in dozens of lawsuits around the U.S. that
    accuse it and other oil companies of deception over climate change and
    that aim to collect billions of dollars in damages. Prosecutors and
    attorneys involved in some of the cases are seeking some of the
    documents reviewed by the Journal, which were part of a previous
    investigation by New York’s attorney general but never made public."

    Get in line, Gavin!

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