It's pretty funny.
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1702313378897629329
Nancy Pelosi says it's "hogwash" and "ridiculous" to say she opened
an impeachment inquiry into President Trump without a House vote: "I
don't know why the press keeps repeating it."
That's exactly what happened.
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1702316820458279017
NANCY PELOSI (October 15, 2019): "There's no requirement that we have
a vote [to open an impeachment inquiry] and so at this time we will
not be having a vote."
She's lying to you too Stephen.
On 9/14/23 10:54 AM, ScottW wrote:
It's pretty funny.
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1702313378897629329
Nancy Pelosi says it's "hogwash" and "ridiculous" to say she opened
an impeachment inquiry into President Trump without a House vote: "I
don't know why the press keeps repeating it."
That's exactly what happened.
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1702316820458279017
NANCY PELOSI (October 15, 2019): "There's no requirement that we haveIt's true, of course, that there's no requirement. Also true, the DoJ
a vote [to open an impeachment inquiry] and so at this time we will
not be having a vote."
says the WH can ignore House impeachment inquiries if there's no vote.
She's lying to you too Stephen.No, she doesn't communicate directly to me.
It's true, of course, that there's no requirement. Also true, the DoJ
says the WH can ignore House impeachment inquiries if there's no vote.
It's true, of course, that there's no requirement. Also true, the DoJ
says the WH can ignore House impeachment inquiries if there's no vote.
It's true that the DOJ said that.
But it's not true that it is true.
On 9/15/23 6:21 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
It's true, of course, that there's no requirement. Also true, the DoJ
says the WH can ignore House impeachment inquiries if there's no vote.
It's true that the DOJ said that.https://www.justice.gov/d9/opinions/attachments/2020/01/20/2020-01-19-impeach-invest.pdf
But it's not true that it is true.
"House Committees’ Authority to Investigate for Impeachment
The House of Representatives must expressly authorize a committee to
conduct an impeachment investigation and to use compulsory process in
that investigation before the committee may compel the production of documents or testimony in support of the House’s power of impeachment."
Follow the link for citations from the Nixon and Clinton eras and
historical discussion.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/12/trump-doj-assist-biden-impeachment-probe-00115393
"In January 2020, the Donald Trump-led Justice Department formally
declared that impeachment inquiries by the House are invalid unless the chamber takes formal votes to authorize them.
That opinion — issued by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel — came in response to then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s decision to launch an impeachment inquiry into Trump without initially holding a
vote for it. Not only is it still on the books, it is binding on the
current administration as it responds to Tuesday’s announcement by
Speaker Kevin McCarthy to authorize an impeachment inquiry into Biden,
again without a vote."
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 8:04:21 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:discussion.
On 9/15/23 6:21 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
https://www.justice.gov/d9/opinions/attachments/2020/01/20/2020-01-19-impeach-invest.pdf
It's true, of course, that there's no requirement. Also true,
the DoJ says the WH can ignore House impeachment inquiries if
there's no vote.
It's true that the DOJ said that. But it's not true that it is
true.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/12/trump-doj-assist-biden-impeachment-probe-00115393
"In January 2020, the Donald Trump-led Justice Department formally
declared that impeachment inquiries by the House are invalid unless
the chamber takes formal votes to authorize them.
That opinion — issued by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal
Counsel — came in response to then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s
decision to launch an impeachment inquiry into Trump without
initially holding a vote for it. Not only is it still on the books,
it is binding on the current administration as it responds to
Tuesday’s announcement by Speaker Kevin McCarthy to authorize an
impeachment inquiry into Biden, again without a vote."
I love watching you spin.
There will eventually be a vote. But they need to do a little work
first.
“This phase of an impeachment inquiry provides an opportunity for the
House to formally outline the scope of its investigation, provides
notice to the accused and time for further conversations with
members,”
And then vote.
On 9/16/23 12:14 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 8:04:21 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:discussion.
On 9/15/23 6:21 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
https://www.justice.gov/d9/opinions/attachments/2020/01/20/2020-01-19-impeach-invest.pdf
It's true, of course, that there's no requirement. Also true,
the DoJ says the WH can ignore House impeachment inquiries if
there's no vote.
It's true that the DOJ said that. But it's not true that it is
true.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/12/trump-doj-assist-biden-impeachment-probe-00115393
"In January 2020, the Donald Trump-led Justice Department formally
declared that impeachment inquiries by the House are invalid unless
the chamber takes formal votes to authorize them.
That opinion — issued by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal
Counsel — came in response to then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s
decision to launch an impeachment inquiry into Trump without
initially holding a vote for it. Not only is it still on the books,
it is binding on the current administration as it responds to
Tuesday’s announcement by Speaker Kevin McCarthy to authorize an
impeachment inquiry into Biden, again without a vote."
I love watching you spin.It's not me. Those are the facts.
No worries, I think (unlike under Nancy) the scope of investigation should be well defined.There will eventually be a vote. But they need to do a little workNot what they've been doing all along? They'll have to do it without subpoena power for now.
first.
“This phase of an impeachment inquiry provides an opportunity for the House to formally outline the scope of its investigation, provides
notice to the accused and time for further conversations with
members,”
And then vote.Sounds like you're with Nancy.
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 8:04:21 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 9/15/23 6:21 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
It's true, of course, that there's no requirement. Also true, the DoJ >> says the WH can ignore House impeachment inquiries if there's no vote.
It's true that the DOJ said that.https://www.justice.gov/d9/opinions/attachments/2020/01/20/2020-01-19-impeach-invest.pdf
But it's not true that it is true.
"House Committees’ Authority to Investigate for Impeachment
The House of Representatives must expressly authorize a committee to conduct an impeachment investigation and to use compulsory process in
that investigation before the committee may compel the production of documents or testimony in support of the House’s power of impeachment."
Follow the link for citations from the Nixon and Clinton eras and historical discussion.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/12/trump-doj-assist-biden-impeachment-probe-00115393
"In January 2020, the Donald Trump-led Justice Department formally declared that impeachment inquiries by the House are invalid unless the chamber takes formal votes to authorize them.
That opinion — issued by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel — came in response to then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s decisionI love watching you spin. There will eventually be a vote.
to launch an impeachment inquiry into Trump without initially holding a vote for it. Not only is it still on the books, it is binding on the current administration as it responds to Tuesday’s announcement by Speaker Kevin McCarthy to authorize an impeachment inquiry into Biden, again without a vote."
But they need to do a little work first.
“This phase of an impeachment inquiry provides an opportunity for the House to formally outline the scope of its investigation, provides notice to the accused and time for further conversations with members,”
And then vote.
ScottW
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