• The Harsh reality of Bidenomics

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 12 16:59:03 2023
    Moody's Analytics @Markzandi
    finds that the typical US household is spending *$709* more per month than two years ago -- on the same goods & services.

    https://twitter.com/MattEganCNN/status/1690104498813886464

    and CNN aired the story.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Aug 12 19:14:35 2023
    On 8/12/23 6:59 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Moody's Analytics @Markzandi
    finds that the typical US household is spending *$709* more per month than two years ago -- on the same goods & services.

    https://twitter.com/MattEganCNN/status/1690104498813886464

    and CNN aired the story.

    Why wouldn't they? They're not Fox News, who will ignore stuff.

    Did they mention how much more the "typical US household" makes compared
    to two years ago?

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/16/economy/real-wage-gains-inflation

    Not there yet, but improving. The dilemma is the Fed wants to lower
    inflation by raising unemployment which would really hamper purchasing
    power. The link between employment and inflation isn't what is was for
    Volker.

    https://www.frbsf.org/economic-research/publications/economic-letter/2023/may/how-much-do-labor-costs-drive-inflation/

    "The results cast some doubt on the narrative that labor-cost growth is
    by itself an important driver of NHS price inflation. This leaves open
    other explanations for the high correlation between labor-cost growth
    and inflation."

    Lessee the Moody's website...

    https://www.moodysanalytics.com/about-us/press-releases/2023-5-16-moodys-analytics-ninty-one-percent-decline-us-metros

    Rents are finally coming down. That's good. That reminds me of another
    story about how Minneapolis has low inflation because of new home
    construction. If you want low inflation, build more homes.

    Of course, the 2% target is arbitrary.

    https://www.project-syndicate.org/onpoint/is-2-really-the-right-inflation-target-for-central-banks

    Requires registration, but the question says it all.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 12 20:28:24 2023
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 5:14:40 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/12/23 6:59 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Moody's Analytics @Markzandi
    finds that the typical US household is spending *$709* more per month than two years ago -- on the same goods & services.

    https://twitter.com/MattEganCNN/status/1690104498813886464

    and CNN aired the story.
    Why wouldn't they? They're not Fox News, who will ignore stuff.

    Did they mention how much more the "typical US household" makes compared
    to two years ago?

    You think the avg household is getting over 700$ more income per month than 2 years ago?

    LoL. Here's the ugly truth on Bidenomics....and it's not the whole truth as the inflation
    index doesn't include big hitters in the avg budget like food and energy.

    https://dqydj.com/household-income-by-year/



    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/16/economy/real-wage-gains-inflation

    Not there yet, but improving.

    Not this last month....job growth slowed. That inevitably leads to slower wage growth
    while inflation stubbornly hangs on. Most are reporting an expected increase in August.


    The dilemma is the Fed wants to lower
    inflation by raising unemployment which would really hamper purchasing power.

    That's why it was so stupid for Joe to push Inflation reduction act which he admits the title was a fat lie.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Aug 13 13:33:10 2023
    On 8/12/23 10:28 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 5:14:40 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/12/23 6:59 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Moody's Analytics @Markzandi finds that the typical US household
    is spending *$709* more per month than two years ago -- on the
    same goods & services.

    https://twitter.com/MattEganCNN/status/1690104498813886464

    and CNN aired the story.
    Why wouldn't they? They're not Fox News, who will ignore stuff.

    Did they mention how much more the "typical US household" makes
    compared to two years ago?

    You think the avg household is getting over 700$ more income per
    month than 2 years ago?

    Just asking.

    LoL. Here's the ugly truth on Bidenomics....and it's not the whole
    truth as the inflation index doesn't include big hitters in the avg
    budget like food and energy.

    https://dqydj.com/household-income-by-year/

    Leaves out the lower income levels where it matters. Of course, I've
    already shown you the gains for the lowest quintile.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/16/economy/real-wage-gains-inflation

    Not there yet, but improving.

    Not this last month....job growth slowed. That inevitably leads to
    slower wage growth while inflation stubbornly hangs on. Most are
    reporting an expected increase in August.

    In the context of sustained growth, lowering inflation and low
    unemployment. Slowing is still growing.

    The dilemma is the Fed wants to lower inflation by raising
    unemployment which would really hamper purchasing power.

    That's why it was so stupid for Joe to push Inflation reduction act
    which he admits the title was a fat lie.

    No, he did not. He said it was a bad name because it does so much more
    than reduce inflation.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 14 08:36:49 2023
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:33:13 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/12/23 10:28 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 5:14:40 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/12/23 6:59 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Moody's Analytics @Markzandi finds that the typical US household
    is spending *$709* more per month than two years ago -- on the
    same goods & services.

    https://twitter.com/MattEganCNN/status/1690104498813886464

    and CNN aired the story.
    Why wouldn't they? They're not Fox News, who will ignore stuff.

    Did they mention how much more the "typical US household" makes
    compared to two years ago?

    You think the avg household is getting over 700$ more income per
    month than 2 years ago?
    Just asking.
    LoL. Here's the ugly truth on Bidenomics....and it's not the whole
    truth as the inflation index doesn't include big hitters in the avg
    budget like food and energy.

    https://dqydj.com/household-income-by-year/
    Leaves out the lower income levels where it matters. Of course, I've
    already shown you the gains for the lowest quintile.
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/16/economy/real-wage-gains-inflation

    Not there yet, but improving.

    Not this last month....job growth slowed. That inevitably leads to
    slower wage growth while inflation stubbornly hangs on. Most are
    reporting an expected increase in August.
    In the context of sustained growth, lowering inflation and low
    unemployment. Slowing is still growing.
    The dilemma is the Fed wants to lower inflation by raising
    unemployment which would really hamper purchasing power.

    That's why it was so stupid for Joe to push Inflation reduction act
    which he admits the title was a fat lie.
    No, he did not. He said it was a bad name because it does so much more
    than reduce inflation.

    Let me quote Joe...

    "Well, we’ve put ourselves in a position where we passed the most comprehensive environmental piece of — it’s called the “Inflation Reduction Act.” It’s within that. It has nothing to do with inflation; it has to do with the (inaudible) $4-
    $600 — excuse me, $368 billion, the single-largest investment in climate change anywhere in the world — anywh- — no one has ever, ever spent that."

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2023/08/09/remarks-by-president-biden-at-a-campaign-reception-albuquerque-nm/

    "It has nothing to do with inflation;" That's a Whitehouse transcript of Joe's speech.

    You got it? Nothing to do with inflation.
    Nothing!
    I repeat one more time for your pea brain.....

    Joe says "It has nothing to do with inflation".

    He's actually wrong...it has nothing to do with REDUCING inflation.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Aug 14 10:56:34 2023
    On 8/14/23 10:36 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:33:13 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/12/23 10:28 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 5:14:40 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/12/23 6:59 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Moody's Analytics @Markzandi finds that the typical US
    household is spending *$709* more per month than two years
    ago -- on the same goods & services.

    https://twitter.com/MattEganCNN/status/1690104498813886464

    and CNN aired the story.
    Why wouldn't they? They're not Fox News, who will ignore
    stuff.

    Did they mention how much more the "typical US household"
    makes compared to two years ago?

    You think the avg household is getting over 700$ more income per
    month than 2 years ago?
    Just asking.
    LoL. Here's the ugly truth on Bidenomics....and it's not the
    whole truth as the inflation index doesn't include big hitters in
    the avg budget like food and energy.

    https://dqydj.com/household-income-by-year/
    Leaves out the lower income levels where it matters. Of course,
    I've already shown you the gains for the lowest quintile.
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/16/economy/real-wage-gains-inflation



    Not there yet, but improving.

    Not this last month....job growth slowed. That inevitably leads
    to slower wage growth while inflation stubbornly hangs on. Most
    are reporting an expected increase in August.
    In the context of sustained growth, lowering inflation and low
    unemployment. Slowing is still growing.
    The dilemma is the Fed wants to lower inflation by raising
    unemployment which would really hamper purchasing power.

    That's why it was so stupid for Joe to push Inflation reduction
    act which he admits the title was a fat lie.
    No, he did not. He said it was a bad name because it does so much
    more than reduce inflation.

    Let me quote Joe...

    "Well, we’ve put ourselves in a position where we passed the most comprehensive environmental piece of — it’s called the “Inflation Reduction Act.” It’s within that. It has nothing to do with
    inflation; it has to do with the (inaudible) $4- — $600 — excuse me,
    $368 billion, the single-largest investment in climate change
    anywhere in the world — anywh- — no one has ever, ever spent that."

    Yes, that's an example of "so much more" as I paraphrased it. Allowing
    for the President's typically garbled speech, he's saying the
    environment portion isn't an inflation response as such.
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2023/08/09/remarks-by-president-biden-at-a-campaign-reception-albuquerque-nm/

    "It has nothing to do with inflation;" That's a Whitehouse
    transcript of Joe's speech.

    Yes, environmental investment shows the IRA has so much more than
    inflation responses. And that's not a 'transcript,' that's a quote from
    a transcript that lacks necessary context.

    You got it? Nothing to do with inflation. Nothing! I repeat one more
    time for your pea brain.....

    Environmental action isn't an inflation measure as such. Got it.

    Joe says "It has nothing to do with inflation".

    That's why he says the name of the act doesn't tell the whole story.

    He's actually wrong...it has nothing to do with REDUCING inflation.

    Stimulating manufacturing, creating jobs and slowing climate change are positives even if they don't reduce inflation immediately.

    Of course, we're under 3% so reducing inflation too much risks economic stagnation.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 14 09:12:04 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:56:37 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/14/23 10:36 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:33:13 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/12/23 10:28 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 5:14:40 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/12/23 6:59 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Moody's Analytics @Markzandi finds that the typical US
    household is spending *$709* more per month than two years
    ago -- on the same goods & services.

    https://twitter.com/MattEganCNN/status/1690104498813886464

    and CNN aired the story.
    Why wouldn't they? They're not Fox News, who will ignore
    stuff.

    Did they mention how much more the "typical US household"
    makes compared to two years ago?

    You think the avg household is getting over 700$ more income per
    month than 2 years ago?
    Just asking.
    LoL. Here's the ugly truth on Bidenomics....and it's not the
    whole truth as the inflation index doesn't include big hitters in
    the avg budget like food and energy.

    https://dqydj.com/household-income-by-year/
    Leaves out the lower income levels where it matters. Of course,
    I've already shown you the gains for the lowest quintile.
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/16/economy/real-wage-gains-inflation



    Not there yet, but improving.

    Not this last month....job growth slowed. That inevitably leads
    to slower wage growth while inflation stubbornly hangs on. Most
    are reporting an expected increase in August.
    In the context of sustained growth, lowering inflation and low
    unemployment. Slowing is still growing.
    The dilemma is the Fed wants to lower inflation by raising
    unemployment which would really hamper purchasing power.

    That's why it was so stupid for Joe to push Inflation reduction
    act which he admits the title was a fat lie.
    No, he did not. He said it was a bad name because it does so much
    more than reduce inflation.

    Let me quote Joe...

    "Well, we’ve put ourselves in a position where we passed the most comprehensive environmental piece of — it’s called the “Inflation Reduction Act.” It’s within that. It has nothing to do with
    inflation; it has to do with the (inaudible) $4- — $600 — excuse me, $368 billion, the single-largest investment in climate change
    anywhere in the world — anywh- — no one has ever, ever spent that."
    Yes, that's an example of "so much more" as I paraphrased it.

    LoL...Joe says "nothing".....Stephen hears whatever he wants to hear.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Aug 14 12:30:11 2023
    On 8/14/23 11:12 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:56:37 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/14/23 10:36 AM, ScottW wrote:

    Let me quote Joe...

    "Well, we’ve put ourselves in a position where we passed the most
    comprehensive environmental piece of — it’s called the “Inflation
    Reduction Act.” It’s within that. It has nothing to do with
    inflation; it has to do with the (inaudible) $4- — $600 — excuse me, >>> $368 billion, the single-largest investment in climate change
    anywhere in the world — anywh- — no one has ever, ever spent that."
    Yes, that's an example of "so much more" as I paraphrased it.

    LoL...Joe says "nothing".....Stephen hears whatever he wants to hear.

    A thing that has nothing to do with inflation is also something more.
    Stephen can hear the surrounding context to make sense of the remark.

    A publicist might rewrite it like this:

    "We passed the Inflation Reduction Act, but it contains so much more
    than anti-inflation measures: it's also the single largest investment in climate change made anywhere, ever."

    Console yourself with your cherry-picked gotcha word.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 14 16:32:20 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:30:14 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/14/23 11:12 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:56:37 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/14/23 10:36 AM, ScottW wrote:

    Let me quote Joe...

    "Well, we’ve put ourselves in a position where we passed the most
    comprehensive environmental piece of — it’s called the “Inflation >>> Reduction Act.” It’s within that. It has nothing to do with
    inflation; it has to do with the (inaudible) $4- — $600 — excuse me, >>> $368 billion, the single-largest investment in climate change
    anywhere in the world — anywh- — no one has ever, ever spent that." >> Yes, that's an example of "so much more" as I paraphrased it.

    LoL...Joe says "nothing".....Stephen hears whatever he wants to hear.
    A thing that has nothing to do with inflation is also something more.

    You might have a point if they left out "reduction".

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 14 20:36:44 2023
    On 8/12/23 7:14 PM, mINE109 wrote:
    and CNN aired the story.

    Why wouldn't they? They're not Fox News, who will ignore stuff.

    To be fair, apparently both slept on the recent.Jared Kushner Saudi
    Arabia story

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Tue Aug 15 07:33:43 2023
    On 8/14/23 6:32 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:30:14 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/14/23 11:12 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:56:37 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/14/23 10:36 AM, ScottW wrote:

    Let me quote Joe...

    "Well, we’ve put ourselves in a position where we passed the most
    comprehensive environmental piece of — it’s called the “Inflation >>>>> Reduction Act.” It’s within that. It has nothing to do with
    inflation; it has to do with the (inaudible) $4- — $600 — excuse me, >>>>> $368 billion, the single-largest investment in climate change
    anywhere in the world — anywh- — no one has ever, ever spent that." >>>> Yes, that's an example of "so much more" as I paraphrased it.

    LoL...Joe says "nothing".....Stephen hears whatever he wants to hear.
    A thing that has nothing to do with inflation is also something more.

    You might have a point if they left out "reduction".

    Inflation went down. That's a "reduction." However, the IRA is more than
    that: it also lowers "prescription drug prices, and invests into
    domestic energy production while promoting clean energy," says wiki.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 15 11:29:04 2023
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:33:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/14/23 6:32 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:30:14 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/14/23 11:12 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:56:37 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/14/23 10:36 AM, ScottW wrote:

    Let me quote Joe...

    "Well, we’ve put ourselves in a position where we passed the most >>>>> comprehensive environmental piece of — it’s called the “Inflation
    Reduction Act.” It’s within that. It has nothing to do with
    inflation; it has to do with the (inaudible) $4- — $600 — excuse me,
    $368 billion, the single-largest investment in climate change
    anywhere in the world — anywh- — no one has ever, ever spent that."
    Yes, that's an example of "so much more" as I paraphrased it.

    LoL...Joe says "nothing".....Stephen hears whatever he wants to hear.
    A thing that has nothing to do with inflation is also something more.

    You might have a point if they left out "reduction".
    Inflation went down. That's a "reduction."

    Even Joe isn't trying to pull that BS.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Tue Aug 15 16:35:51 2023
    On 8/15/23 1:29 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:33:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/14/23 6:32 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:30:14 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/14/23 11:12 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:56:37 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/14/23 10:36 AM, ScottW wrote:

    Let me quote Joe...

    "Well, we’ve put ourselves in a position where we passed the most >>>>>>> comprehensive environmental piece of — it’s called the “Inflation >>>>>>> Reduction Act.” It’s within that. It has nothing to do with
    inflation; it has to do with the (inaudible) $4- — $600 — excuse me,
    $368 billion, the single-largest investment in climate change
    anywhere in the world — anywh- — no one has ever, ever spent that." >>>>>> Yes, that's an example of "so much more" as I paraphrased it.

    LoL...Joe says "nothing".....Stephen hears whatever he wants to hear. >>>> A thing that has nothing to do with inflation is also something more.

    You might have a point if they left out "reduction".
    Inflation went down. That's a "reduction."

    Even Joe isn't trying to pull that BS.

    Yes, he's emphasizing the other aspects of the act.

    https://apnews.com/article/biden-inflation-reduction-climate-anniversary-9950f7e814ac71e89eee3f452ab17f71

    "The law is now at the core of Biden’s pitch to voters going into the
    2024 presidential campaign. But with inflation less of a pressing
    concern, the president is putting more emphasis on its provisions aimed
    at combating climate change, creating jobs and lowering people’s health
    care bills."

    The name was chosen for the politics of the summer of 2022. It's less
    relevant now.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 15 15:09:30 2023

    Console yourself with your cherry-picked gotcha word.

    I cherry picked this post just to tell you what an ignorant schmuck you are.

    And I cherry picked this article just to show you some cherry picked
    pictures and cherry picked videos to divert you from the fact that all is weel, and just fine and dandy
    in Democrat run hell holes
    like Philly, Chicago, LA, SF, Portland, and Seattle.
    Just look away, there is nothing bad to see there.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Tue Aug 15 17:13:50 2023
    On 8/15/23 5:09 PM, Art Sackman wrote:


    Console yourself with your cherry-picked gotcha word.

    I cherry picked this post

    And I cherry picked this article

    And forgot to link it, but don't bother. That'll save me the trouble of reposting the Republican-cities-with-high-crime story I showed the other
    day.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 15 21:21:28 2023
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 8:33:46 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/14/23 6:32 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:30:14 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/14/23 11:12 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:56:37 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/14/23 10:36 AM, ScottW wrote:

    Let me quote Joe...

    "Well, we’ve put ourselves in a position where we passed the most >>>>> comprehensive environmental piece of — it’s called the “Inflation
    Reduction Act.” It’s within that. It has nothing to do with
    inflation; it has to do with the (inaudible) $4- — $600 — excuse me,
    $368 billion, the single-largest investment in climate change
    anywhere in the world — anywh- — no one has ever, ever spent that."
    Yes, that's an example of "so much more" as I paraphrased it.

    LoL...Joe says "nothing".....Stephen hears whatever he wants to hear.
    A thing that has nothing to do with inflation is also something more.

    You might have a point if they left out "reduction".
    Inflation went down. That's a "reduction."


    You are a COMPLETE IDIOT
    Inflation means that prices go UP, not down.
    A reduction would be when prices go down

    A decreased inflation rate is still PRICES GOING UP.
    The only reduction is the rate at which they go up.

    If prices go p]up 5% in pmthe one, and 2% in onth two,
    that is an increase of 7% over two months.
    THERE IS NO REDUCTION OF PRICES.
    The only thing that has been reduced is the level of INCREASE.
    The pain is still there. The pain accrues. And the pain continuously grows.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 15 21:28:22 2023
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:13:53 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/15/23 5:09 PM, Art Sackman wrote:


    Console yourself with your cherry-picked gotcha word.

    I cherry picked this post
    And I cherry picked this article
    And forgot to link it, but don't bother. That'll save me the trouble of reposting the Republican-cities-with-high-crime story I showed the other day.

    here it is https://nypost.com/2023/05/27/horrific-footage-shows-devastation-of-philadelphias-tranq-epidemic/

    I think your city was JAcksonville'
    All you could come up with were some smaller cities
    and showing crime rates, not the graphic hell holes
    of LA, Philly, SF, Seattle and Portland.

    If you can't see the damage that ultra left wing policies have wrought on those cities,
    there really is something wrong with you

    No cash bail, decriminalizing shoplifting, harm educatio for drug addicts,
    lack of prosecutions, defunding police.
    GIVE ME A BREAK. IT IS NOT WORKING

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Wed Aug 16 07:20:05 2023
    On 8/15/23 11:21 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 8:33:46 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/14/23 6:32 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:30:14 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/14/23 11:12 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:56:37 AM UTC-7, mINE109
    wrote:
    On 8/14/23 10:36 AM, ScottW wrote:

    Let me quote Joe...

    "Well, we’ve put ourselves in a position where we passed
    the most comprehensive environmental piece of — it’s
    called the “Inflation Reduction Act.” It’s within that.
    It has nothing to do with inflation; it has to do with
    the (inaudible) $4- — $600 — excuse me, $368 billion, the
    single-largest investment in climate change anywhere in
    the world — anywh- — no one has ever, ever spent that."
    Yes, that's an example of "so much more" as I paraphrased
    it.

    LoL...Joe says "nothing".....Stephen hears whatever he wants
    to hear.
    A thing that has nothing to do with inflation is also something
    more.

    You might have a point if they left out "reduction".
    Inflation went down. That's a "reduction."

    Inflation means that prices go UP, not down. A reduction would be
    when prices go down

    Prices going down is called deflation.

    A decreased inflation rate is still PRICES GOING UP.

    A decrease of inflation is the inflation rate going down. You'll notice
    I didn't say prices went down, although some have.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Wed Aug 16 07:33:48 2023
    On 8/15/23 11:28 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:13:53 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/15/23 5:09 PM, Art Sackman wrote:


    Console yourself with your cherry-picked gotcha word.

    I cherry picked this post
    And I cherry picked this article
    And forgot to link it, but don't bother. That'll save me the trouble of
    reposting the Republican-cities-with-high-crime story I showed the other
    day.

    here it is https://nypost.com/2023/05/27/horrific-footage-shows-devastation-of-philadelphias-tranq-epidemic/

    I think your city was JAcksonville'

    https://www.newsweek.com/these-republican-cities-have-higher-crime-rate-new-york-city-1794909

    Oklahoma City, Miami, and "[o]ther GOP-led cities with higher murder
    rates than New York in 2021 include Jacksonville, Florida; Fresno,
    California; Omaha, Nebraska; Colorado Springs, Colorado and Tulsa,
    Oklahoma. Fort Worth had a lower rate of murders than New York but
    experienced other crimes at a higher rate."

    All you could come up with were some smaller cities
    and showing crime rates, not the graphic hell holes
    of LA, Philly, SF, Seattle and Portland.

    All large cities have bad areas. It's not my fault if big city voters
    don't like Republican mayoral candidates.

    If you can't see the damage that ultra left wing policies have wrought on those cities,
    there really is something wrong with you

    No cash bail, decriminalizing shoplifting, harm educatio for drug addicts, lack of prosecutions, defunding police.
    GIVE ME A BREAK. IT IS NOT WORKING

    Especially where it wasn't even tried.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 16 08:56:57 2023
    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/04/23/surprising-geography-of-gun-violence-00092413

    Listen to the southern right talk about violence in America and you’d
    think New York City was as dangerous as Bakhmut on Ukraine’s eastern
    front... In reality, the region the Big Apple comprises most of is far
    and away the safest part of the U.S. mainland when it comes to gun
    violence, while the regions Florida and Texas belong to have per capita
    firearm death rates (homicides and suicides) three to four times higher
    than New York’s. On a regional basis it’s the southern swath of the
    country — in cities and rural areas alike — where the rate of deadly gun violence is most acute, regions where Republicans have dominated state governments for decades.

    End quote.

    Also:

    https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-in-rural-america/

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462

    https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem

    We found that the murder rate in Trump-voting states has exceeded the
    murder rate in Biden-voting states every year this century.
    Cumulatively, overall murder rates since 2000 were on average 23% higher
    in Trump-voting states. For the past 21 years, the top 10 murder rate
    states have been dominated by reliably red states, namely Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Missouri. Even when we removed the county with
    the largest city in Trump-voting states (and kept them in for
    Biden-voting states), murder rates were still significantly higher in
    these red states...

    There is a media and political narrative that crime is a Democratic
    problem, occurring mostly in big blue cities and fueled by lax policies.
    While murder is by no means the only crime in America, it is the most
    serious. And as far as murder is concerned, it is a bigger problem in
    red states than blue states and only becoming more so. As we noted in
    our last report, Republicans do a much better job blaming others for
    crime than actually stopping it.

    End quote.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 16 12:19:58 2023
    mINE109 quoted:
    As we noted in our last report, Republicans do a much better
    job blaming others for crime than actually stopping it.
    End quote.

    That could be part of the greater scheme to "own the lib's".
    Have any republigoons started blaming Democrats (or our handmaidens,
    Hollywood and the MSM) for revealing the "truth" to Dumpster about the
    2020 election being "stolen"? Idiot Baby just promised, for the umpteenth
    time, to post "proof" of massive election fraud during the next week.
    The grifting never ends.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Wed Aug 16 14:33:27 2023
    On 8/16/23 2:19 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    mINE109 quoted:
    As we noted in our last report, Republicans do a much better
    job blaming others for crime than actually stopping it.
    End quote.

    That could be part of the greater scheme to "own the lib's".
    Have any republigoons started blaming Democrats (or our handmaidens, Hollywood and the MSM) for revealing the "truth" to Dumpster about the
    2020 election being "stolen"? Idiot Baby just promised, for the umpteenth time, to post "proof" of massive election fraud during the next week.
    The grifting never ends.

    There was plenty of 'the dems framed him so they could get Hunter out of
    hot water years later.'

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 16 13:55:11 2023
    mINE109 wrote:

    Have any republigoons started blaming Democrats (or our handmaidens, Hollywood and the MSM) for revealing the "truth" to Dumpster about the
    2020 election being "stolen"? Idiot Baby just promised, for the umpteenth time, to post "proof" of massive election fraud during the next week.
    The grifting never ends.
    There was plenty of 'the dems framed him so they could get Hunter out of
    hot water years later.'

    Wow. No wonder they feel they have to cheat in elections - our side has Nostradamus, Sybil, and Zoltar in our stable.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Wed Aug 16 18:20:23 2023
    On 8/16/23 3:55 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    mINE109 wrote:

    Have any republigoons started blaming Democrats (or our
    handmaidens, Hollywood and the MSM) for revealing the "truth" to
    Dumpster about the 2020 election being "stolen"? Idiot Baby just
    promised, for the umpteenth time, to post "proof" of massive
    election fraud during the next week. The grifting never ends.
    There was plenty of 'the dems framed him so they could get Hunter
    out of hot water years later.'

    Wow. No wonder they feel they have to cheat in elections - our side
    has Nostradamus, Sybil, and Zoltar in our stable.

    Best of all, facts not required.

    https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/the-deep-story-beneath-the-big-lie/

    "...[W]e were interviewing conservatives and monitoring conservative
    media as part of an effort to understand the Right’s alienation from
    reliable sources of information. In interviews and media both, we heard
    this same theme again and again. Some on the right believed the “Big
    Lie” that the election was stolen; others did not or weren’t sure. Some contended that Trump had behaved responsibly; others disagreed. But
    virtually all concurred that conservatives writ large were being
    unfairly blamed, demonized, and ostracized for the events at the
    Capitol. And virtually all were quite emotional about it."

    And, Boy Howdy, have we seen that attitude all sorts of places. And this:

    "Recently, however, the disinformation framework for understanding the
    Right has gotten pushback. Far-right actors are portraying
    disinformation research as an anti-conservative plot, and some have
    engaged in intimidation and harassment campaigns."

    Lots more about The Shunning, and, "the emotional power of right-wing storytelling and the limits of “disinformation” as frame to understand it."

    Froomkin: “contemptuous liberals are coming for you” is the driving principle of the right-wing movement, according to the authors.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 16 18:26:34 2023
    mINE109 wrote:

    Froomkin: “contemptuous liberals are coming for you” is the driving principle of the right-wing movement, according to the authors.

    I have the contempt, but I can't envision a plan to persecute the MAGA-droids. Oh well.

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