• FBI report

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 20 10:58:53 2023
    Hunter laptop "not manipulated in any way".

    Dec. 2019.

    Yet in 2020 prior to the election they were warning social media of a russian "hack and dump" operation.

    Social media responded by burying all stories tied to Hunter's laptop.

    Stephen believes this is all "coincidental".

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Thu Jul 20 14:03:53 2023
    On 7/20/23 12:58 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Hunter laptop "not manipulated in any way".

    Dec. 2019.

    Yet in 2020 prior to the election they were warning social media of a russian "hack and dump" operation.

    Social media responded by burying all stories tied to Hunter's laptop.

    Stephen believes this is all "coincidental".

    That laptop was erased and restored from an insecure Hunter iCloud
    account, one of two in his name.

    In other words, the laptop was authenticated by being compared to the
    iCloud account from which the laptop was "restored."

    There's also this problem, a folder was created into which files were
    copied by "an unknown person" at a time when the laptop wasn't in
    Hunter's possession.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/575556723/Final-Hunter-Biden-Laptop-Report-Redacted#

    Final Hunter Biden Laptop Report Redacted

    Uploaded by Washington Examiner

    41. I identified numerous documents and emails accessed after the hard
    drive was in the possession of others and after surrendered by John Paul
    Mac Isaac.

    42. In addition, a folder on the Desktop titled ‘HunterBurismaEmails’
    was created on September 1, 2020 and files were copied into the folder
    by an unknown person.

    43. A total of 123 emails we recopied into the folder and the entire
    list of files is attached to this report as Appendix 1.

    44.These emails are duplicates of email located within the RHB Apple
    Mail application which have been authenticated as being valid emails and forensically sound. Cyber Forensics, Inc - CyberForensics.com - EIN
    82-2561188 - DUNS 080902944 - CAGE 7Z4P46

    Comment by emptywheel: in January 2019, the Gmail account Hunter Biden
    used to contact sex workers (probably including the Russian escort
    service he had been using) effectively took over his iCloud account and
    asked for a complete copy of his iCloud account. Then, the next month,
    all the data on the Hunter Biden laptop was deleted.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 20 16:48:30 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 12:03:59 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 7/20/23 12:58 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Hunter laptop "not manipulated in any way".

    Dec. 2019.

    Yet in 2020 prior to the election they were warning social media of a russian "hack and dump" operation.

    Social media responded by burying all stories tied to Hunter's laptop.

    Stephen believes this is all "coincidental".
    That laptop was erased and restored from an insecure Hunter iCloud
    account, one of two in his name.

    If this truly invalidated the laptop it would be big news.
    Funny how a google search yields nothing.
    It's silly to believe the FBI and about a dozen independent computer forensic analysis
    have all concluded the laptop is legit and the data valid.
    But Stephen, the piano playing computer cop knows better....and he'll never believe otherwise.

    The problem you have is this. That analysis is done not on the original drive but a mirror image which
    who knows how many people messed with.
    The FBI got the original still in the laptop and confirmed it.
    All your whining about copying files and creation of folders is just BS.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to ScottW on Thu Jul 20 18:23:11 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 7:48:31 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 12:03:59 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 7/20/23 12:58 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Hunter laptop "not manipulated in any way".

    Dec. 2019.

    Yet in 2020 prior to the election they were warning social media of a russian "hack and dump" operation.

    Social media responded by burying all stories tied to Hunter's laptop.

    Stephen believes this is all "coincidental".
    That laptop was erased and restored from an insecure Hunter iCloud account, one of two in his name.
    If this truly invalidated the laptop it would be big news.
    Funny how a google search yields nothing.
    It's silly to believe the FBI and about a dozen independent computer forensic analysis
    have all concluded the laptop is legit and the data valid.
    But Stephen, the piano playing computer cop knows better....and he'll never believe otherwise.

    The problem you have is this. That analysis is done not on the original drive but a mirror image which
    who knows how many people messed with.
    The FBI got the original still in the laptop and confirmed it.
    All your whining about copying files and creation of folders is just BS.

    ScottW

    He gets his garbage from Mother Jones

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Jul 21 09:35:49 2023
    On 7/20/23 6:48 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 12:03:59 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 7/20/23 12:58 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Hunter laptop "not manipulated in any way".

    Dec. 2019.

    Yet in 2020 prior to the election they were warning social media of a russian "hack and dump" operation.

    Social media responded by burying all stories tied to Hunter's laptop.

    Stephen believes this is all "coincidental".
    That laptop was erased and restored from an insecure Hunter iCloud
    account, one of two in his name.

    If this truly invalidated the laptop it would be big news.

    Funny how that works.

    Funny how a google search yields nothing.

    Go to the Wash Examiner report and read for yourself.

    It's silly to believe the FBI and about a dozen independent computer forensic analysis
    have all concluded the laptop is legit and the data valid.

    They dropped the ball and didn't do a basic forensic analysis. They did
    a authentication of contents, not the same thing.

    But Stephen, the piano playing computer cop knows better....and he'll never believe otherwise.

    Please stop snipping the links to actual evidence.

    The problem you have is this. That analysis is done not on the original drive but a mirror image which
    who knows how many people messed with.

    That's one point.

    The FBI got the original still in the laptop and confirmed it.

    They compared it to the cloud after it had been restored from the cloud.

    All your whining about copying files and creation of folders is just BS.

    No, it's evidence the contents had been manipulated by people other than Hunter.

    9/1/18: An account recovery request for your Apple ID (rhb@rspdc.com)
    was made from the web near Los Angeles, CA on August 31, 2018 at 9:36:07
    PM PDT. The contact phone number provided was [Hunter Biden’s].

    9/1/18: The following changes to your Apple ID, rhb@rspdc.com were made
    on September 1, 2018 at 10:29:36 AM PDT: Password

    9/1/18: Your Apple ID (rhb@rspdc.com) was used to sign in to iCloud on a MacBook Pro 13″.
    Date and Time: September 1, 2018, 10:34 AM PDT

    9/1/18: Your Apple ID (rhb@rspdc.com) was used to sign in to iCloud via
    a web browser.
    Date and Time: September 1, 2018, 10:42 AM PDT

    9/2/18: Your Apple ID, rhb@rspdc.com, was just used to download
    Hide2Vault from the Mac App Store on a computer or device that has not previously been used.

    9/2/18: Welcome to your new MacBook Pro with Touch Bar.

    9/11/18: Your Apple ID (rhb@rspdc.com) was used to sign in to iCloud via
    a web browser.

    9/11/18: The password for your Apple ID (rhb@rspdc.com) has been
    successfully reset.

    9/11/18: Robert’s iPad is being erased. The erase of Robert’s iPad
    started at 2:56 PM PDT on August 5, 2018.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 21 08:17:10 2023
    On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 7:35:54 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 7/20/23 6:48 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 12:03:59 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 7/20/23 12:58 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Hunter laptop "not manipulated in any way".

    Dec. 2019.

    Yet in 2020 prior to the election they were warning social media of a russian "hack and dump" operation.

    Social media responded by burying all stories tied to Hunter's laptop. >>>
    Stephen believes this is all "coincidental".
    That laptop was erased and restored from an insecure Hunter iCloud
    account, one of two in his name.

    If this truly invalidated the laptop it would be big news.
    Funny how that works.
    Funny how a google search yields nothing.
    Go to the Wash Examiner report and read for yourself.

    I see you can't find a link either.

    It's silly to believe the FBI and about a dozen independent computer forensic analysis
    have all concluded the laptop is legit and the data valid.
    They dropped the ball and didn't do a basic forensic analysis. They did
    a authentication of contents, not the same thing.

    LoL..... Please confirm your bona fides that makes you a superior authority of computer forensics
    than the FBI?

    I detect some serious intellectual dishonesty.

    ScottW
    But Stephen, the piano playing computer cop knows better....and he'll never believe otherwise.
    Please stop snipping the links to actual evidence.
    The problem you have is this. That analysis is done not on the original drive but a mirror image which
    who knows how many people messed with.
    That's one point.
    The FBI got the original still in the laptop and confirmed it.
    They compared it to the cloud after it had been restored from the cloud.
    All your whining about copying files and creation of folders is just BS.
    No, it's evidence the contents had been manipulated by people other than Hunter.

    9/1/18: An account recovery request for your Apple ID (r...@rspdc.com)
    was made from the web near Los Angeles, CA on August 31, 2018 at 9:36:07
    PM PDT. The contact phone number provided was [Hunter Biden’s].

    Did you miss the part where the laptop was a new 2018 model?
    What do you do when you get a new computer?

    You're grasping at straws that only a desperate person would turn to.

    This is the kind of BS intellectually dishonest people put out there to deceive MORONS.
    I'll let you declare which category you fall into.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 21 08:33:48 2023

    You're grasping at straws that only a desperate person would turn to.

    This is the kind of BS intellectually dishonest people put out there to deceive MORONS.
    I'll let you declare which category you fall into.

    ScottW

    Marxist Steve's category is a 'so-called' human being.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Jul 21 12:27:43 2023
    On 7/21/23 10:17 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 7:35:54 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 7/20/23 6:48 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 12:03:59 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 7/20/23 12:58 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Hunter laptop "not manipulated in any way".

    Dec. 2019.

    Yet in 2020 prior to the election they were warning social media of a russian "hack and dump" operation.

    Social media responded by burying all stories tied to Hunter's laptop. >>>>>
    Stephen believes this is all "coincidental".
    That laptop was erased and restored from an insecure Hunter iCloud
    account, one of two in his name.

    If this truly invalidated the laptop it would be big news.
    Funny how that works.
    Funny how a google search yields nothing.
    Go to the Wash Examiner report and read for yourself.

    I see you can't find a link either.

    I cited the link. "Final Hunter Biden Laptop Report Redacted

    Uploaded by Washington Examiner"

    It's silly to believe the FBI and about a dozen independent computer forensic analysis
    have all concluded the laptop is legit and the data valid.
    They dropped the ball and didn't do a basic forensic analysis. They did
    a authentication of contents, not the same thing.

    LoL..... Please confirm your bona fides that makes you a superior authority of computer forensics
    than the FBI?

    I detect some serious intellectual dishonesty.

    No, you don't. What's missing a the list of last alterations to files.

    But Stephen, the piano playing computer cop knows better....and he'll never believe otherwise.
    Please stop snipping the links to actual evidence.
    The problem you have is this. That analysis is done not on the original drive but a mirror image which
    who knows how many people messed with.
    That's one point.
    The FBI got the original still in the laptop and confirmed it.
    They compared it to the cloud after it had been restored from the cloud.
    All your whining about copying files and creation of folders is just BS.
    No, it's evidence the contents had been manipulated by people other than
    Hunter.

    9/1/18: An account recovery request for your Apple ID (r...@rspdc.com)
    was made from the web near Los Angeles, CA on August 31, 2018 at 9:36:07
    PM PDT. The contact phone number provided was [Hunter Biden’s].

    Did you miss the part where the laptop was a new 2018 model?
    What do you do when you get a new computer?

    Erase it?

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 21 14:12:54 2023
    What do you do when you get a new computer?
    Erase it?


    Marxist Steve has finally lost his 'operating system'.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Jul 21 16:24:41 2023
    On 7/21/23 10:17 AM, ScottW wrote:
    I see you can't find a link either.

    The Daily Mail also has it:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12247533/Whistleblowers-memo-reveals-FBI-knew-contents-Hunter-Bidens-abandoned-laptop-years.html

    [2/12/2019]

    21. Eric Overly, CART agent, imaged the external hard drive in Delaware. 22.12/19/2019 - Image of hard drive is provided to RCFL. Went to
    Philadelphia so it stayed in Delaware district.
    23. 1/6/2020 - forensic computer people at FBI started analysis
    24. After forensics there were some initial emails about what computer
    analyst was seeing - many pictures with many body parts, file names, and
    things similar to this
    25.SAI never saw a forensic report of actual hard drive or laptop - they
    had to actually go to the device - no cellabright (sic) report of hard
    drive showing the analysis in pdf format.

    Since I'm not a computer expert, what's the significance of a lack of a Cellebrite report as late as Jan 2020?

    29.SA asked if all information on the hard drive had been reviewed...the
    answer is that they did not look at all of that...SA questions if Dillon reviewed all iMessage's that were relevant and not privileged. They
    would find the answer.
    30. 2/27/2020 - DE3 with all messages from the hard drive were provided
    by computer forensics - via USB Drive
    31.2/10/2020 - Filter review completed - relevancy review began for the
    hard drive
    32.227 Productions
    a. DE3 - USB containing exported messages (ipad and macbook messages) No
    iphone messages
    33.3/31/2020 - email about quality and completeness of imaged/recovered information from the hard drive. (SA said he had no seen it.
    USAO said that he would not have seen it because for a variety of
    reasons they thought they needed to keep it from the agents - they were
    going to give a redacted version at some point in time to the agents - Stephania takes what comes form Dillon ...)

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 22 18:34:50 2023
    On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 2:24:46 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 7/21/23 10:17 AM, ScottW wrote:
    I see you can't find a link either.
    The Daily Mail also has it:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12247533/Whistleblowers-memo-reveals-FBI-knew-contents-Hunter-Bidens-abandoned-laptop-years.html

    [2/12/2019]

    21. Eric Overly, CART agent, imaged the external hard drive in Delaware. 22.12/19/2019 - Image of hard drive is provided to RCFL. Went to Philadelphia so it stayed in Delaware district.
    23. 1/6/2020 - forensic computer people at FBI started analysis
    24. After forensics there were some initial emails about what computer analyst was seeing - many pictures with many body parts, file names, and things similar to this
    25.SAI never saw a forensic report of actual hard drive or laptop - they
    had to actually go to the device - no cellabright (sic) report of hard
    drive showing the analysis in pdf format.

    Since I'm not a computer expert, what's the significance of a lack of a Cellebrite report as late as Jan 2020?

    It might indicate if one didn't exist at all...that someone isn't doing their job.
    But that SA blank, who or whatever, that is didn't see one doesn't mean a whole lot to me.


    29.SA asked if all information on the hard drive had been reviewed...the answer is that they did not look at all of that...SA questions if Dillon reviewed all iMessage's that were relevant and not privileged. They
    would find the answer.
    30. 2/27/2020 - DE3 with all messages from the hard drive were provided
    by computer forensics - via USB Drive
    31.2/10/2020 - Filter review completed - relevancy review began for the
    hard drive
    32.227 Productions
    a. DE3 - USB containing exported messages (ipad and macbook messages) No iphone messages
    33.3/31/2020 - email about quality and completeness of imaged/recovered information from the hard drive. (SA said he had no seen it.
    USAO said that he would not have seen it because for a variety of
    reasons they thought they needed to keep it from the agents - they were going to give a redacted version at some point in time to the agents - Stephania takes what comes form Dillon ...)

    None of this proves your point.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Jul 23 14:57:31 2023
    On 7/22/23 8:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 2:24:46 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 7/21/23 10:17 AM, ScottW wrote:
    I see you can't find a link either.
    The Daily Mail also has it:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12247533/Whistleblowers-memo-reveals-FBI-knew-contents-Hunter-Bidens-abandoned-laptop-years.html

    [2/12/2019]

    21. Eric Overly, CART agent, imaged the external hard drive in Delaware.
    22.12/19/2019 - Image of hard drive is provided to RCFL. Went to
    Philadelphia so it stayed in Delaware district.
    23. 1/6/2020 - forensic computer people at FBI started analysis
    24. After forensics there were some initial emails about what computer
    analyst was seeing - many pictures with many body parts, file names, and
    things similar to this
    25.SAI never saw a forensic report of actual hard drive or laptop - they
    had to actually go to the device - no cellabright (sic) report of hard
    drive showing the analysis in pdf format.

    Since I'm not a computer expert, what's the significance of a lack of a
    Cellebrite report as late as Jan 2020?

    It might indicate if one didn't exist at all...that someone isn't doing their job.
    But that SA blank, who or whatever, that is didn't see one doesn't mean a whole lot to me.

    It could be the FBI or a third party authenticated the emails and other
    files by comparing their contents to one of Hunter's iCloud accounts but
    didn't do the forensic investigation that would show when files had been modified.

    33.3/31/2020 - email about quality and completeness of imaged/recovered
    information from the hard drive. (SA said he had no seen it.
    USAO said that he would not have seen it because for a variety of
    reasons they thought they needed to keep it from the agents - they were
    going to give a redacted version at some point in time to the agents -
    Stephania takes what comes form Dillon ...)

    None of this proves your point.

    Just part of the report. However the last bit about "they thought they
    needed to keep it from the agents" goes to the credibility of the "whistleblowers" who were possibly presumed to have leaked to the press.

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