49 of the 50 states have some form of transgender legislation either on their books or under consideration. The one state with nothing is Delaware.
Joe's state...figures.
Only a tiny fraction of parents of the most crazed unfit variety support trans crap to confuse their kids.
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 6:12:22 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
49 of the 50 states have some form of transgender legislation either on their books or under consideration. The one state with nothing is Delaware.
Joe's state...figures.
Only a tiny fraction of parents of the most crazed unfit variety support trans crap to confuse their kids.
I don't know about confusing the kiddies, but that sentence sure confused me.
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 4:26:02 PM UTC-7, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 6:12:22 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
49 of the 50 states have some form of transgender legislation either on their books or under consideration. The one state with nothing is Delaware.
Joe's state...figures.
Only a tiny fraction of parents of the most crazed unfit variety support trans crap to confuse their kids.
I don't know about confusing the kiddies, but that sentence sure confused me.Don't worry, you're not a crazed unfit parent.....yet.
ScottW
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 10:35:37 AM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 4:26:02 PM UTC-7, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 6:12:22 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:Don't worry, you're not a crazed unfit parent.....yet.
49 of the 50 states have some form of transgender legislation either on their books or under consideration. The one state with nothing is Delaware.I don't know about confusing the kiddies, but that sentence sure confused me.
Joe's state...figures.
Only a tiny fraction of parents of the most crazed unfit variety support trans crap to confuse their kids.
ScottW
I am not forcing gender surgeries on children, and never will do so.
On 6/3/23 11:01 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 10:35:37 AM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 4:26:02 PM UTC-7, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 6:12:22 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:Don't worry, you're not a crazed unfit parent.....yet.
49 of the 50 states have some form of transgender legislation either on their books or under consideration. The one state with nothing is Delaware.I don't know about confusing the kiddies, but that sentence sure confused me.
Joe's state...figures.
Only a tiny fraction of parents of the most crazed unfit variety support trans crap to confuse their kids.
ScottW
I am not forcing gender surgeries on children, and never will do so.You'll be relieved to know that never happens the way you say:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-transgender-surgery-medicine-legislation-LGBTQ-491630629027
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 12:15:18 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/3/23 11:01 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
I am not forcing gender surgeries on children, and never will do so.You'll be relieved to know that never happens the way you say:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-transgender-surgery-medicine-legislation-LGBTQ-491630629027
Three year olds are safe.
God help the four year olds!
Only a tiny fraction of parents of the most crazed unfit variety support trans crap to confuse their kids.
On 6/2/23 5:12 PM, ScottW wrote:
Only a tiny fraction of parents of the most crazed unfit variety support trans crap to confuse their kids.https://news.gallup.com/poll/393602/world-better-gay-people-years-ago.aspx
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Half of the world's adults (50%) now say their city
or area is a "good place" for gay or lesbian people to live
On 6/3/23 11:28 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 12:15:18 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/3/23 11:01 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
I am not forcing gender surgeries on children, and never will do so.You'll be relieved to know that never happens the way you say:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-transgender-surgery-medicine-legislation-LGBTQ-491630629027
Three year olds are safe.Also safe.
God help the four year olds!
"Teens who are 16 to 17 years old are generally limited to receiving
only “top surgeries,” and they must be “consistent and persistent” in
their gender identity for years, take gender-affirming hormones for some time and have approvals from both their parents and doctors,
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 2:18:00 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/3/23 11:28 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 12:15:18 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Also safe.
On 6/3/23 11:01 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
I am not forcing gender surgeries on children, and never will do so.You'll be relieved to know that never happens the way you say:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-transgender-surgery-medicine-legislation-LGBTQ-491630629027
Three year olds are safe.
God help the four year olds!
"Teens who are 16 to 17 years old are generally limited to receiving
only “top surgeries,” and they must be “consistent and persistent” in
their gender identity for years, take gender-affirming hormones for some
time and have approvals from both their parents and doctors,
They should not have been given gender affirming hormones for some time
That is horrific for minors.
Wait until adulthood
On 6/3/23 8:04 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 2:18:00 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/3/23 11:28 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 12:15:18 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Also safe.
On 6/3/23 11:01 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
I am not forcing gender surgeries on children, and never will do so. >>>> You'll be relieved to know that never happens the way you say:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-transgender-surgery-medicine-legislation-LGBTQ-491630629027
Three year olds are safe.
God help the four year olds!
"Teens who are 16 to 17 years old are generally limited to receiving
only “top surgeries,” and they must be “consistent and persistent” in
their gender identity for years, take gender-affirming hormones for some >> time and have approvals from both their parents and doctors,
They should not have been given gender affirming hormones for some time That is horrific for minors.Better outcomes when hormones are started early.
Wait until adulthood
They should not have been given gender affirming hormones for some time That is horrific for minors.Better outcomes when hormones are started early.
Wait until adulthood
On 6/3/23 8:04 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 2:18:00 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/3/23 11:28 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 12:15:18 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Also safe.
On 6/3/23 11:01 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
I am not forcing gender surgeries on children, and never will do so. >>>> You'll be relieved to know that never happens the way you say:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-transgender-surgery-medicine-legislation-LGBTQ-491630629027
Three year olds are safe.
God help the four year olds!
"Teens who are 16 to 17 years old are generally limited to receiving
only “top surgeries,” and they must be “consistent and persistent” in
their gender identity for years, take gender-affirming hormones for some >> time and have approvals from both their parents and doctors,
They should not have been given gender affirming hormones for some time That is horrific for minors.Better outcomes when hormones are started early.
Wait until adulthood
On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 3:24:19 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:No, pretending I did doesn't make it so.
On 6/3/23 8:04 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
Wait until adulthoodBetter outcomes when hormones are started early.
Well, that just indicates that there is something inherently wrong with the process.
you admit it does not work well
On 6/5/23 12:00 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 3:24:19 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/3/23 8:04 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
Wait until adulthoodBetter outcomes when hormones are started early.
Well, that just indicates that there is something inherently wrong with the process.No, pretending I did doesn'tmake it so
you admit it does not work well
On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 10:20:09 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/5/23 12:00 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 3:24:19 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:No, pretending I did doesn't make it so
On 6/3/23 8:04 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
Wait until adulthoodBetter outcomes when hormones are started early.
Well, that just indicates that there is something inherently
wrong with the process. you admit it does not work well
Minors can't do these things, or give legal consent, that require
mental and intellectual maturity:
consenting to life altering hormone treatments and removal of healthy
sexual organs ranks right up there at the top of what should be
restricted to minors.
consenting to life altering hormone treatments and removal of healthy sexual organs ranks right up there at the top of what should beThat's why the former requires parental approval and the latter is vanishingly rare, probably in double digits in a population of around
restricted to minors.
three hundred thousand.
mINE109 wrote:
Suggestion: If you take the monster away from under Shmoo-Sack's bed,
consenting to life altering hormone treatments and removal of healthyThat's why the former requires parental approval and the latter is
sexual organs ranks right up there at the top of what should be
restricted to minors.
vanishingly rare, probably in double digits in a population of around
three hundred thousand.
maybe give him a replacement. For example, the rise in ansemitism
throughout the U.S. is practically a subset of the MAGA crazy train. When
the neo-Nazis come for him, they'll be following Dumpster or his heir.
On 6/6/23 10:43 AM, Fascist Flea wrote:
Suggestion: If you take the monster away from under Shmoo-Sack's bed, maybe give him a replacement. For example, the rise in ansemitism throughout the U.S. is practically a subset of the MAGA crazy train. When the neo-Nazis come for him, they'll be following Dumpster or his heir.
I tried quoting "First they came," but he'll pretend I'm calling him a
Nazi if I make it too clear.
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 12:01:43 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/6/23 10:43 AM, Fascist Flea wrote:
Suggestion: If you take the monster away from under Shmoo-Sack's bed,
maybe give him a replacement. For example, the rise in ansemitism
throughout the U.S. is practically a subset of the MAGA crazy train. When >>> the neo-Nazis come for him, they'll be following Dumpster or his heir.
I tried quoting "First they came," but he'll pretend I'm calling him a
Nazi if I make it too clear.
It's the crazy left coming after the Jews. Rampant anti Semitism
Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNY law), Mansour,
Jeremy Corbin and many others.
On 6/6/23 10:58 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 12:01:43 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/6/23 10:43 AM, Fascist Flea wrote:
Suggestion: If you take the monster away from under Shmoo-Sack's bed, >>> maybe give him a replacement. For example, the rise in ansemitism
throughout the U.S. is practically a subset of the MAGA crazy train. When
the neo-Nazis come for him, they'll be following Dumpster or his heir.
I tried quoting "First they came," but he'll pretend I'm calling him a
Nazi if I make it too clear.
It's the crazy left coming after the Jews. Rampant anti SemitismOh, dear. None of them tried to set fire to an Austin synagogue but a
Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNY law), Mansour,
Jeremy Corbin and many others.
Nazi sympathizer did.
https://forward.com/news/540849/white-supremacists-adl-antisemitism-annual-audit/
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 10:09:13 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/6/23 10:58 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 12:01:43 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Oh, dear. None of them tried to set fire to an Austin synagogue but a
On 6/6/23 10:43 AM, Fascist Flea wrote:
Suggestion: If you take the monster away from under Shmoo-Sack's bed, >>>>> maybe give him a replacement. For example, the rise in ansemitismI tried quoting "First they came," but he'll pretend I'm calling him a >>>> Nazi if I make it too clear.
throughout the U.S. is practically a subset of the MAGA crazy train. When >>>>> the neo-Nazis come for him, they'll be following Dumpster or his heir. >>>
It's the crazy left coming after the Jews. Rampant anti Semitism
Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNY law), Mansour,
Jeremy Corbin and many others.
Nazi sympathizer did.
https://forward.com/news/540849/white-supremacists-adl-antisemitism-annual-audit/
That doesn't make those I listed any less anti semites.
so, YOUR standard on evil doers pusts the blame on the doers more than the instigators.
Let's apply that to Jan 6
Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNY law), Mansour,
Jeremy Corbin
On 6/8/23 9:42 AM, mINE109 wrote:
Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNY law), Mansour,Lessee, three women of color, a Sheikh from Abu Dhabi, and a Brit. The
Jeremy Corbin
last two make it easy to accept your word on it but you're condemning
the first three for political opposition to Israel's secular actions,
so, no go.
Unless it's "existing in public" Muslim-style that's got you worked up.
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:12:16 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/8/23 9:42 AM, mINE109 wrote:
Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNY law), Mansour,Lessee, three women of color, a Sheikh from Abu Dhabi, and a Brit. The
Jeremy Corbin
last two make it easy to accept your word on it but you're condemning
the first three for political opposition to Israel's secular actions,
so, no go.
Unless it's "existing in public" Muslim-style that's got you worked up.
Fatima Mousa Mohammed is no sheik. Last I heard, the misogynist Islamic religion
does not allow that. Plus, she lives in Queens and I assume that she is an American citzen
Tlaib, and Omar have been cited by the ADL for antisemitic comments and perpetuating
antisemitic tropes.
AFA as being women of color, Omar certainly is, but the other to are Arabs. If
Arabs are women of color, then Middle Eastern Jewish women would be so also.
Glad to see that you not only accept Antisemitism, but that you
promote it also.
On 6/8/23 3:15 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:12:16 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/8/23 9:42 AM, mINE109 wrote:
Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNY law), Mansour,Lessee, three women of color, a Sheikh from Abu Dhabi, and a Brit. The
Jeremy Corbin
last two make it easy to accept your word on it but you're condemning
the first three for political opposition to Israel's secular actions,
so, no go.
Unless it's "existing in public" Muslim-style that's got you worked up.
Fatima Mousa Mohammed is no sheik. Last I heard, the misogynist Islamic religionYou can't count the three women in your example?
does not allow that. Plus, she lives in Queens and I assume that she is an American citzen
Tlaib, and Omar have been cited by the ADL for antisemitic comments and perpetuatingComments and the trope of criticizing Israel's government.
antisemitic tropes.
AFA as being women of color, Omar certainly is, but the other to are Arabs. IfYou don't make the rules and you didn't mention any Middle Eastern
Arabs are women of color, then Middle Eastern Jewish women would be so also.
Jewish women.
Glad to see that you not only accept Antisemitism, but that youThere's that framing again. It doesn't work for antisemitism either.
promote it also.
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:05:34 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/8/23 3:15 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:12:16 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:You can't count the three women in your example?
On 6/8/23 9:42 AM, mINE109 wrote:
Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNY law),Lessee, three women of color, a Sheikh from Abu Dhabi, and a
Mansour, Jeremy Corbin
Brit. The last two make it easy to accept your word on it but
you're condemning the first three for political opposition to
Israel's secular actions, so, no go.
Unless it's "existing in public" Muslim-style that's got you
worked up.
Fatima Mousa Mohammed is no sheik. Last I heard, the misogynist
Islamic religion does not allow that. Plus, she lives in Queens
and I assume that she is an American citzen
I never said there were three women. You said that.
Fact is, there were four.
Tlaib, and Omar have been cited by the ADL for antisemiticComments and the trope of criticizing Israel's government.
comments and perpetuating antisemitic tropes.
They called out AMerican Jews supporting Israel as having divided
loyalties, questioning their patriotism.
The antisemites themselves support Palestine, so they would have the
same dual loyalty "problem" additionally, the support Hamas and Hamas
aligned groups. Hamas is a terrorist organization that attacks and
kills Jewish civilians. Can you say "Antismitic"?
AFA as being women of color, Omar certainly is, but the other toYou don't make the rules and you didn't mention any Middle Eastern
are Arabs. If Arabs are women of color, then Middle Eastern
Jewish women would be so also.
Jewish women.
Glad to see that you not only accept Antisemitism, but that youThere's that framing again. It doesn't work for antisemitism
promote it also.
either.
The frame fits, so be comfortable wearing it
On 6/9/23 4:28 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:05:34 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/8/23 3:15 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:12:16 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:You can't count the three women in your example?
On 6/8/23 9:42 AM, mINE109 wrote:
Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNY law),Lessee, three women of color, a Sheikh from Abu Dhabi, and a
Mansour, Jeremy Corbin
Brit. The last two make it easy to accept your word on it but
you're condemning the first three for political opposition to
Israel's secular actions, so, no go.
Unless it's "existing in public" Muslim-style that's got you
worked up.
Fatima Mousa Mohammed is no sheik. Last I heard, the misogynist
Islamic religion does not allow that. Plus, she lives in Queens
and I assume that she is an American citzen
I never said there were three women. You said that.You: "Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNY law), Mansour, Jeremy Corbin"
Fact is, there were four.Is Mansour or Jeremy Corbin the fourth? I don't know who you mean by 'Mansour' and the Man City owner is the most recently newsworthy of that name.
Tlaib, and Omar have been cited by the ADL for antisemiticComments and the trope of criticizing Israel's government.
comments and perpetuating antisemitic tropes.
They called out AMerican Jews supporting Israel as having divided loyalties, questioning their patriotism.Ah. The CEO of the ADL defended Tlaib against that criticism.
https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/adl-statement-concerning-rep-rashida-tlaibs-tweet-pending-bds-bill-congress
You'll Trump has been known to accuse Jews of divided loyalties.
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-bashes-jewish-leaders-not-175840915.html
The antisemites themselves support Palestine, so they would have theHamas is also the ruling party and defacto government of the Palestinian Gaza strip. The situation is way more complicated than your simplistic description.
same dual loyalty "problem" additionally, the support Hamas and Hamas aligned groups. Hamas is a terrorist organization that attacks and
kills Jewish civilians. Can you say "Antismitic"?
AFA as being women of color, Omar certainly is, but the other toYou don't make the rules and you didn't mention any Middle Eastern
are Arabs. If Arabs are women of color, then Middle Eastern
Jewish women would be so also.
Jewish women.
Glad to see that you not only accept Antisemitism, but that youThere's that framing again. It doesn't work for antisemitism
promote it also.
either.
The frame fits, so be comfortable wearing itNo, it's dishonest and you should cease using it.
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:31:18 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/9/23 4:28 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:05:34 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:You: "Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNY law),
On 6/8/23 3:15 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:12:16 AM UTC-4, mINE109You can't count the three women in your example?
wrote:
On 6/8/23 9:42 AM, mINE109 wrote:
Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNYLessee, three women of color, a Sheikh from Abu Dhabi, and
law), Mansour, Jeremy Corbin
a Brit. The last two make it easy to accept your word on it
but you're condemning the first three for political
opposition to Israel's secular actions, so, no go.
Unless it's "existing in public" Muslim-style that's got
you worked up.
Fatima Mousa Mohammed is no sheik. Last I heard, the
misogynist Islamic religion does not allow that. Plus, she
lives in Queens and I assume that she is an American citzen
I never said there were three women. You said that.
Mansour, Jeremy Corbin"
Fact is, there were four.Is Mansour or Jeremy Corbin the fourth? I don't know who you mean
by 'Mansour' and the Man City owner is the most recently newsworthy
of that name.
My mistake, its Sarsour, a woman
You'll Trump has been known to accuse Jews of divided loyalties.Ah. The CEO of the ADL defended Tlaib against that criticism.Tlaib, and Omar have been cited by the ADL for antisemiticComments and the trope of criticizing Israel's government.
comments and perpetuating antisemitic tropes.
They called out AMerican Jews supporting Israel as having
divided loyalties, questioning their patriotism.
https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/adl-statement-concerning-rep-rashida-tlaibs-tweet-pending-bds-bill-congress
The antisemites themselves support Palestine, so they would have the
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-bashes-jewish-leaders-not-175840915.html
same dual loyalty "problem" additionally, the support Hamas andHamas is also the ruling party and defacto government of the
Hamas aligned groups. Hamas is a terrorist organization that
attacks and kills Jewish civilians. Can you say "Antismitic"?
Palestinian Gaza strip. The situation is way more complicated than
your simplistic description.
Its not complicated. Its a terrorist organization
Hamas is a militant movement and one of the Palestinian territories’
two major political parties. It governs more than two million
Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, but the group is best known for its
armed resistance to Israel. Dozens of countries have designated Hamas
a terrorist organization.
No, it's dishonest and you should cease using it.AFA as being women of color, Omar certainly is, but the otherYou don't make the rules and you didn't mention any Middle
to are Arabs. If Arabs are women of color, then Middle
Eastern Jewish women would be so also.
Eastern Jewish women.
Glad to see that you not only accept Antisemitism, but thatThere's that framing again. It doesn't work for antisemitism
you promote it also.
either.
The frame fits, so be comfortable wearing it
If you readily support antisemites, you are an antisemite. You do not denounce the antisemitic portion of their activities. I could
understand it if you owned up to it, but still supported them for
other reasons and other issues.
On 6/10/23 3:38 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:31:18 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/9/23 4:28 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:05:34 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:You: "Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNY law),
On 6/8/23 3:15 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:12:16 AM UTC-4, mINE109You can't count the three women in your example?
wrote:
On 6/8/23 9:42 AM, mINE109 wrote:
Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNYLessee, three women of color, a Sheikh from Abu Dhabi, and
law), Mansour, Jeremy Corbin
a Brit. The last two make it easy to accept your word on it
but you're condemning the first three for political
opposition to Israel's secular actions, so, no go.
Unless it's "existing in public" Muslim-style that's got
you worked up.
Fatima Mousa Mohammed is no sheik. Last I heard, the
misogynist Islamic religion does not allow that. Plus, she
lives in Queens and I assume that she is an American citzen
I never said there were three women. You said that.
Mansour, Jeremy Corbin"
Fact is, there were four.Is Mansour or Jeremy Corbin the fourth? I don't know who you mean
by 'Mansour' and the Man City owner is the most recently newsworthy
of that name.
My mistake, its Sarsour, a womanWiki: Sarsour has been criticized by American conservatives[10][45][50]
and pro-Israel Democrats,[21] along with some Zionist activists[10][51]
for her stance on Middle Eastern politics, including her support for BDS against Israel.
There's your problem: you equate BDS with antiSemitism. "Muslim in
public" remains an explanation your motivation.
"Sarsour has disputed accusations of antisemitism and says that her criticism of the state of Israel has been wrongly conflated with
antipathy for Jews."
You'll Trump has been known to accuse Jews of divided loyalties.Ah. The CEO of the ADL defended Tlaib against that criticism.Tlaib, and Omar have been cited by the ADL for antisemiticComments and the trope of criticizing Israel's government.
comments and perpetuating antisemitic tropes.
They called out AMerican Jews supporting Israel as having
divided loyalties, questioning their patriotism.
https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/adl-statement-concerning-rep-rashida-tlaibs-tweet-pending-bds-bill-congress
The antisemites themselves support Palestine, so they would have the
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-bashes-jewish-leaders-not-175840915.html
same dual loyalty "problem" additionally, the support Hamas andHamas is also the ruling party and defacto government of the
Hamas aligned groups. Hamas is a terrorist organization that
attacks and kills Jewish civilians. Can you say "Antismitic"?
Palestinian Gaza strip. The situation is way more complicated than
your simplistic description.
Its not complicated. Its a terrorist organizationToo simple. Israel was also partly founded by a terrorist organization
that became a political party:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun
Hamas is a militant movement and one of the Palestinian territories’It's also the Gaza government.
two major political parties. It governs more than two million
Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, but the group is best known for its
armed resistance to Israel. Dozens of countries have designated Hamas
a terrorist organization.
No, it's dishonest and you should cease using it.AFA as being women of color, Omar certainly is, but the otherYou don't make the rules and you didn't mention any Middle
to are Arabs. If Arabs are women of color, then Middle
Eastern Jewish women would be so also.
Eastern Jewish women.
Glad to see that you not only accept Antisemitism, but thatThere's that framing again. It doesn't work for antisemitism
you promote it also.
either.
The frame fits, so be comfortable wearing it
If you readily support antisemites, you are an antisemite. You do not denounce the antisemitic portion of their activities. I could
understand it if you owned up to it, but still supported them for
other reasons and other issues.
Denouncing your denouncing does not support antiSemitism and you're
still trying to frame the discussion in terms of the indefensible, which weakens real defenses against attacks on Jews.
On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 10:01:58 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/10/23 3:38 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:31:18 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Wiki: Sarsour has been criticized by American conservatives[10][45][50]
On 6/9/23 4:28 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:05:34 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:You: "Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNY law),
On 6/8/23 3:15 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:12:16 AM UTC-4, mINE109You can't count the three women in your example?
wrote:
On 6/8/23 9:42 AM, mINE109 wrote:
Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNYLessee, three women of color, a Sheikh from Abu Dhabi, and
law), Mansour, Jeremy Corbin
a Brit. The last two make it easy to accept your word on it
but you're condemning the first three for political
opposition to Israel's secular actions, so, no go.
Unless it's "existing in public" Muslim-style that's got
you worked up.
Fatima Mousa Mohammed is no sheik. Last I heard, the
misogynist Islamic religion does not allow that. Plus, she
lives in Queens and I assume that she is an American citzen
I never said there were three women. You said that.
Mansour, Jeremy Corbin"
Fact is, there were four.Is Mansour or Jeremy Corbin the fourth? I don't know who you mean
by 'Mansour' and the Man City owner is the most recently newsworthy
of that name.
My mistake, its Sarsour, a woman
and pro-Israel Democrats,[21] along with some Zionist activists[10][51]
for her stance on Middle Eastern politics, including her support for BDS
against Israel.
There's your problem: you equate BDS with antiSemitism. "Muslim in
public" remains an explanation your motivation.
"Sarsour has disputed accusations of antisemitism and says that her
criticism of the state of Israel has been wrongly conflated with
antipathy for Jews."
You'll Trump has been known to accuse Jews of divided loyalties.Ah. The CEO of the ADL defended Tlaib against that criticism.Tlaib, and Omar have been cited by the ADL for antisemiticComments and the trope of criticizing Israel's government.
comments and perpetuating antisemitic tropes.
They called out AMerican Jews supporting Israel as having
divided loyalties, questioning their patriotism.
https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/adl-statement-concerning-rep-rashida-tlaibs-tweet-pending-bds-bill-congress
The antisemites themselves support Palestine, so they would have the
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-bashes-jewish-leaders-not-175840915.html >>>>>
Too simple. Israel was also partly founded by a terrorist organizationsame dual loyalty "problem" additionally, the support Hamas andHamas is also the ruling party and defacto government of the
Hamas aligned groups. Hamas is a terrorist organization that
attacks and kills Jewish civilians. Can you say "Antismitic"?
Palestinian Gaza strip. The situation is way more complicated than
your simplistic description.
Its not complicated. Its a terrorist organization
that became a political party:
Those folks terroristic from before1948 were weeded out.
Israel is not terroristic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun
Hamas is a militant movement and one of the Palestinian territories’It's also the Gaza government.
two major political parties. It governs more than two million
Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, but the group is best known for its
armed resistance to Israel. Dozens of countries have designated Hamas
a terrorist organization.
Governments can be terroristic, such as Iran
No, it's dishonest and you should cease using it.AFA as being women of color, Omar certainly is, but the otherYou don't make the rules and you didn't mention any Middle
to are Arabs. If Arabs are women of color, then Middle
Eastern Jewish women would be so also.
Eastern Jewish women.
Glad to see that you not only accept Antisemitism, but thatThere's that framing again. It doesn't work for antisemitism
you promote it also.
either.
The frame fits, so be comfortable wearing it
If you readily support antisemites, you are an antisemite. You do not
denounce the antisemitic portion of their activities. I could
understand it if you owned up to it, but still supported them for
other reasons and other issues.
Denouncing your denouncing does not support antiSemitism and you're
still trying to frame the discussion in terms of the indefensible, which
weakens real defenses against attacks on Jews.
The listed anti semitic subjects are indeed indefensible.
Yur support of them is indefensible as well.
Yur support of them is indefensible as well.Your framing is indefensible as mistaken, dishonest and dangerous.
mINE109 wrote:
I think Shmoo-Sack is trying to get your goat, not make sense.
Yur support of them is indefensible as well.Your framing is indefensible as mistaken, dishonest and dangerous.
On 6/10/23 4:07 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 10:01:58 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/10/23 3:38 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:31:18 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Wiki: Sarsour has been criticized by American conservatives[10][45][50] >> and pro-Israel Democrats,[21] along with some Zionist activists[10][51] >> for her stance on Middle Eastern politics, including her support for BDS >> against Israel.
On 6/9/23 4:28 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:05:34 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:You: "Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNY law),
On 6/8/23 3:15 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:12:16 AM UTC-4, mINE109You can't count the three women in your example?
wrote:
On 6/8/23 9:42 AM, mINE109 wrote:
Omar, Tlaib, Mohammed (commencement speaker at CUNYLessee, three women of color, a Sheikh from Abu Dhabi, and
law), Mansour, Jeremy Corbin
a Brit. The last two make it easy to accept your word on it >>>>>>>> but you're condemning the first three for political
opposition to Israel's secular actions, so, no go.
Unless it's "existing in public" Muslim-style that's got
you worked up.
Fatima Mousa Mohammed is no sheik. Last I heard, the
misogynist Islamic religion does not allow that. Plus, she
lives in Queens and I assume that she is an American citzen
I never said there were three women. You said that.
Mansour, Jeremy Corbin"
Fact is, there were four.Is Mansour or Jeremy Corbin the fourth? I don't know who you mean
by 'Mansour' and the Man City owner is the most recently newsworthy >>>> of that name.
My mistake, its Sarsour, a woman
There's your problem: you equate BDS with antiSemitism. "Muslim in
public" remains an explanation your motivation.
"Sarsour has disputed accusations of antisemitism and says that her
criticism of the state of Israel has been wrongly conflated with
antipathy for Jews."
You'll Trump has been known to accuse Jews of divided loyalties.Ah. The CEO of the ADL defended Tlaib against that criticism.Tlaib, and Omar have been cited by the ADL for antisemiticComments and the trope of criticizing Israel's government.
comments and perpetuating antisemitic tropes.
They called out AMerican Jews supporting Israel as having
divided loyalties, questioning their patriotism.
https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/adl-statement-concerning-rep-rashida-tlaibs-tweet-pending-bds-bill-congress
The antisemites themselves support Palestine, so they would have the >>>>> same dual loyalty "problem" additionally, the support Hamas and
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-bashes-jewish-leaders-not-175840915.html >>>>>
Too simple. Israel was also partly founded by a terrorist organizationHamas aligned groups. Hamas is a terrorist organization thatHamas is also the ruling party and defacto government of the
attacks and kills Jewish civilians. Can you say "Antismitic"?
Palestinian Gaza strip. The situation is way more complicated than
your simplistic description.
Its not complicated. Its a terrorist organization
that became a political party:
Those folks terroristic from before1948 were weeded out.So one can hope a similar outcome for Hamas.
Israel is not terroristic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun
Hamas is a militant movement and one of the Palestinian territories’ >>> two major political parties. It governs more than two millionIt's also the Gaza government.
Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, but the group is best known for its
armed resistance to Israel. Dozens of countries have designated Hamas >>> a terrorist organization.
Governments can be terroristic, such as IranThe Iranian government supports terror but isn't itself terroristic.
The listed anti semitic subjects are indeed indefensible.What subjects? You listed people.
Yur support of them is indefensible as well.Your framing is indefensible as mistaken, dishonest and dangerous.
On 6/11/23 12:38 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
mINE109 wrote:For sure. That and feel like Fox and Friends are his real friends.
I think Shmoo-Sack is trying to get your goat, not make sense.
Yur support of them is indefensible as well.Your framing is indefensible as mistaken, dishonest and dangerous.
Yur support of them is indefensible as well.Your framing is indefensible as mistaken, dishonest and dangerous.
Your support of terrorists is the danger.
Your burying of your head in the sand is dishonest,
Every position you assert is mistaken.
On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 3:43:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/11/23 12:38 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
mINE109 wrote:For sure. That and feel like Fox and Friends are his real friends.
I think Shmoo-Sack is trying to get your goat, not make sense.
Yur support of them is indefensible as well.Your framing is indefensible as mistaken, dishonest and dangerous.
Better than your dining out at the Y with Reid, Maddow and Behar.
How was your Taco Tuesday?
On 6/11/23 8:25 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 3:43:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/11/23 12:38 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
mINE109 wrote:For sure. That and feel like Fox and Friends are his real friends.
I think Shmoo-Sack is trying to get your goat, not make sense.
Yur support of them is indefensible as well.Your framing is indefensible as mistaken, dishonest and dangerous.
Better than your dining out at the Y with Reid, Maddow and Behar.Homophobia. Misogyny.
How was your Taco Tuesday?As you know, I don't get the cable news channels.
On 6/11/23 8:13 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
Yur support of them is indefensible as well.Your framing is indefensible as mistaken, dishonest and dangerous.
Your support of terrorists is the danger.Framing the indefensible.
Your burying of your head in the sand is dishonest,A mistaken opinion, and echolalia, formerly the "rubber, glue"
formulation, in trying to reject my calling out your dishonesty.
Every position you assert is mistaken.Even citing the CEO of the ADL?
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 10:34:08 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/11/23 8:25 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 3:43:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Homophobia. Misogyny.
On 6/11/23 12:38 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
mINE109 wrote:For sure. That and feel like Fox and Friends are his real friends.
I think Shmoo-Sack is trying to get your goat, not make sense.
Yur support of them is indefensible as well.Your framing is indefensible as mistaken, dishonest and dangerous. >>>>>>
Better than your dining out at the Y with Reid, Maddow and Behar.
How was your Taco Tuesday?As you know, I don't get the cable news channels.
I doubt that.
You regurgitate the CNN garbage word for word.
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 10:32:41 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/11/23 8:13 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
Framing the indefensible.Yur support of them is indefensible as well.Your framing is indefensible as mistaken, dishonest and
dangerous.
Your support of terrorists is the danger.
Your burying of your head in the sand is dishonest,A mistaken opinion, and echolalia, formerly the "rubber, glue"
formulation, in trying to reject my calling out your dishonesty.
Every position you assert is mistaken.Even citing the CEO of the ADL?
Hamas' primary goal
And it's rich to accuse me of "regurgitation" when you spout Foxisms on
a daily basis.
On 6/12/23 4:54 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 10:34:08 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/11/23 8:25 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 3:43:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Homophobia. Misogyny.
On 6/11/23 12:38 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
mINE109 wrote:For sure. That and feel like Fox and Friends are his real friends.
I think Shmoo-Sack is trying to get your goat, not make sense.
Yur support of them is indefensible as well.Your framing is indefensible as mistaken, dishonest and dangerous. >>>>>>
Better than your dining out at the Y with Reid, Maddow and Behar.
How was your Taco Tuesday?As you know, I don't get the cable news channels.
I doubt that.I don't watch CNN. I have a cable package that lets me choose the
channels I want in order to avoid the news networks in general and specifically to deprive Fox News of carriage fees.
You regurgitate the CNN garbage word for word.The news? Should be agreed upon facts. The commentary shows? Who's even
on those? I don't know.
And it's rich to accuse me of "regurgitation" when you spout Foxisms on
a daily basis.]]
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 7:32:17 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
And it's rich to accuse me of "regurgitation" when you spout
Foxisms on a daily basis.]]
The difference between you and me is that I can think, and I do, and
i discern specific issues and the array of differences I hear on
Fox, while you are incapable of doing anything bust swallowing the
whole intact Dem party line, hook, line, and sinker.
If you paid attention to Fox, you would see that there are a
multitude of different opinions, and that not all commentators agree
with each other on an array of issues.
The difference between you and me is that I can think,
i discern
specific issues and the array of differences I hear on Fox,
while you are incapable of doing anything bust swallowing the whole intact Dem party line,
hook, line, and sinker.
If you paid attention to Fox, you would see that there are a multitude of different opinions, and that not all commentators agree with each other
on an array of issues.
If you paid attention to Fox, you would see that there are a multitude ofThat doesn't explain why you go out of your way to regurgitate the most ignorant, bigoted, narrow-minded takes on every issue.
different opinions, and that not all commentators agree with each other
on an array of issues.
On 6/13/23 11:19 AM, Fascist Flea wrote:
"No collusion!" is definitely an argument of the "Two legs bad!" variety.If you paid attention to Fox, you would see that there are a multitude of >> different opinions, and that not all commentators agree with each other >> on an array of issues.That doesn't explain why you go out of your way to regurgitate the most ignorant, bigoted, narrow-minded takes on every issue.
I fail to see that connection. it just isn't there.That doesn't explain why you go out of your way to regurgitate the most ignorant, bigoted, narrow-minded takes on every issue."No collusion!" is definitely an argument of the "Two legs bad!" variety.
nO COLLUSION IS A FACT.
On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 2:16:24 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/13/23 11:19 AM, Fascist Flea wrote:
"No collusion!" is definitely an argument of the "Two legs bad!" variety.If you paid attention to Fox, you would see that there are a multitude of >>>> different opinions, and that not all commentators agree with each other >>>> on an array of issues.That doesn't explain why you go out of your way to regurgitate the most
ignorant, bigoted, narrow-minded takes on every issue.
I fail to see that connection. it just isn't there.
nO COLLUSION IS A FACT.
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