On 5/30/23 9:47 AM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/can-electric-trucks-be-more-cost-effective-than-diesel-ones-new-study-debunks-assumptions/ar-AA1bSpKl
A different truck configuration for every load....GMAFB.Is that why every diesel truck has the same size engine?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/can-electric-trucks-be-more-cost-effective-than-diesel-ones-new-study-debunks-assumptions/ar-AA1bSpKl
A different truck configuration for every load....GMAFB.
On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 8:03:09 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:If EVs can't have different configurations, why can diesels have them?
On 5/30/23 9:47 AM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/can-electric-trucks-be-more-cost-effective-than-diesel-ones-new-study-debunks-assumptions/ar-AA1bSpKlIs that why every diesel truck has the same size engine?
A different truck configuration for every load....GMAFB.
How much does engine size change truck mass, range, and refueling time?
Your petty ignorance is boring.
On 5/30/23 10:10 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 8:03:09 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 5/30/23 9:47 AM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/can-electric-trucks-be-more-cost-effective-than-diesel-ones-new-study-debunks-assumptions/ar-AA1bSpKlIs that why every diesel truck has the same size engine?
A different truck configuration for every load....GMAFB.
How much does engine size change truck mass, range, and refueling time?If EVs can't have different configurations, why can diesels have them?
On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 12:12:32 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 5/30/23 10:10 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 8:03:09 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:If EVs can't have different configurations, why can diesels have them?
On 5/30/23 9:47 AM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/can-electric-trucks-be-more-cost-effective-than-diesel-ones-new-study-debunks-assumptions/ar-AA1bSpKlIs that why every diesel truck has the same size engine?
A different truck configuration for every load....GMAFB.
How much does engine size change truck mass, range, and refueling time?
They don't need them. that's the point.
On 5/30/23 10:10 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 8:03:09 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 5/30/23 9:47 AM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/can-electric-trucks-be-more-cost-effective-than-diesel-ones-new-study-debunks-assumptions/ar-AA1bSpKlIs that why every diesel truck has the same size engine?
A different truck configuration for every load....GMAFB.
How much does engine size change truck mass, range, and refueling time?If EVs can't have different configurations, why can diesels have them?
On 5/30/23 6:57 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 12:12:32 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 5/30/23 10:10 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 8:03:09 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 5/30/23 9:47 AM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/can-electric-trucks-be-more-cost-effective-than-diesel-ones-new-study-debunks-assumptions/ar-AA1bSpKlIs that why every diesel truck has the same size engine?
A different truck configuration for every load....GMAFB.
How much does engine size change truck mass, range, and refueling time? >> If EVs can't have different configurations, why can diesels have them?
They don't need them. that's the point.Hence only one size.
On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 9:12:32 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:It seems like you've invented the requirement that an engine can't be
On 5/30/23 10:10 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 8:03:09 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:If EVs can't have different configurations, why can diesels have them?
On 5/30/23 9:47 AM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/can-electric-trucks-be-more-cost-effective-than-diesel-ones-new-study-debunks-assumptions/ar-AA1bSpKlIs that why every diesel truck has the same size engine?
A different truck configuration for every load....GMAFB.
How much does engine size change truck mass, range, and refueling time?
I'm sure they will...but while a larger diesel doesn't make a truck wholly unsuitable for
some tasks....too small or too large a battery does for an e-truck.
It seems like you've invented the requirement that an engine can't be specified for its task.
It seems like you've invented the requirement that an engine can't be
specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to be
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
It seems like you've invented the requirement that an engine can't be
specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to beWhen you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales people its intended
use, you just say "surprise me"?
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
It seems like you've invented the requirement that an engine can't be
specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to beWhen you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales people its intended
use, you just say "surprise me"?
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 10:20:43 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
When you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales people its intended
It seems like you've invented the requirement that an engine can't be
specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to be
use, you just say "surprise me"?
What does that have to do with anything?
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:20:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
When you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales people its intended
It seems like you've invented the requirement that an engine can't be
specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to be
use, you just say "surprise me"?
How long will you own the truck?
On 6/1/23 1:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:20:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
When you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales people its intended
It seems like you've invented the requirement that an engine can't be >>>> specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to be
use, you just say "surprise me"?
How long will you own the truck?Not very long if its engine is the wrong size.
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 1:37:58 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/1/23 1:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:20:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Not very long if its engine is the wrong size.
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
When you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales people its
It seems like you've invented the requirement that an
engine can't be specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to be
intended use, you just say "surprise me"?
How long will you own the truck?
The future is going to be very amusing. Do promise to update us with
your financial ruin as you lose all your meager savings flipping
rapidly depreciating EVs every time you find you wish you had a
different battery configuration.
On 6/1/23 5:26 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 1:37:58 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/1/23 1:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:20:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Not very long if its engine is the wrong size.
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
When you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales people its
It seems like you've invented the requirement that an
engine can't be specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to be
intended use, you just say "surprise me"?
How long will you own the truck?
The future is going to be very amusing. Do promise to update us withWhy wouldn't I just buy the vehicle with the size engine I need?
your financial ruin as you lose all your meager savings flipping
rapidly depreciating EVs every time you find you wish you had a
different battery configuration.
I bet your needs are fixed and unchanging. I can definitely see that with you.
ScottW
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 5:35:41 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/1/23 5:26 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 1:37:58 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Why wouldn't I just buy the vehicle with the size engine I need?
On 6/1/23 1:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:20:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Not very long if its engine is the wrong size.
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
When you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales people its
It seems like you've invented the requirement that an
engine can't be specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to be
intended use, you just say "surprise me"?
How long will you own the truck?
The future is going to be very amusing. Do promise to update us with
your financial ruin as you lose all your meager savings flipping
rapidly depreciating EVs every time you find you wish you had a
different battery configuration.
I bet your needs are fixed and unchanging. I can definitely see that with you.
On 6/1/23 10:12 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 5:35:41 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/1/23 5:26 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 1:37:58 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Why wouldn't I just buy the vehicle with the size engine I need?
On 6/1/23 1:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:20:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Not very long if its engine is the wrong size.
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
When you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales people its
It seems like you've invented the requirement that an
engine can't be specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to be
intended use, you just say "surprise me"?
How long will you own the truck?
The future is going to be very amusing. Do promise to update us with
your financial ruin as you lose all your meager savings flipping
rapidly depreciating EVs every time you find you wish you had a
different battery configuration.
I bet your needs are fixed and unchanging. I can definitely see that with you.
Ah, you think I have a short-haul trucking business.
On 6/1/23 10:12 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 5:35:41 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/1/23 5:26 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 1:37:58 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Why wouldn't I just buy the vehicle with the size engine I need?
On 6/1/23 1:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:20:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Not very long if its engine is the wrong size.
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
When you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales people its
It seems like you've invented the requirement that an
engine can't be specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to be
intended use, you just say "surprise me"?
How long will you own the truck?
The future is going to be very amusing. Do promise to update us with
your financial ruin as you lose all your meager savings flipping
rapidly depreciating EVs every time you find you wish you had a
different battery configuration.
I bet your needs are fixed and unchanging. I can definitely see that with you.Ah, you think I have a short-haul trucking business.
I'll update you
when: I do; EVs for transport are available; and it's impossible to
specify the size of a load to be transported.
To recap, you disagree with this from Chalmers: “We have looked at a scenario where heavy goods vehicles drive the 553 kilometres between Helsingborg and Stockholm in Sweden. We have compared two different
battery sizes and two possible prices for fast charging. Our conclusion
is that it seems possible to electrify this type of vehicle in a cost-effective way.”
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 5:05:40 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/1/23 10:12 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 5:35:41 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Ah, you think I have a short-haul trucking business.
On 6/1/23 5:26 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 1:37:58 PM UTC-7, mINE109Why wouldn't I just buy the vehicle with the size engine I
wrote:
On 6/1/23 1:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:20:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109Not very long if its engine is the wrong size.
wrote:
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
When you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales
It seems like you've invented the requirement that
an engine can't be specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to be
people its intended use, you just say "surprise me"?
How long will you own the truck?
The future is going to be very amusing. Do promise to update
us with your financial ruin as you lose all your meager
savings flipping rapidly depreciating EVs every time you find
you wish you had a different battery configuration.
need?
I bet your needs are fixed and unchanging. I can definitely see
that with you.
I know my wife's little truck occasionally gets overloaded with yard
waste or rock/gravel/sand for whatever project she's got going.
I'll update you when: I do; EVs for transport are available; and
it's impossible to specify the size of a load to be transported.
Exactly....and diesel trucks are quite versatile in their function. EVs.....not so much.
To recap, you disagree with this from Chalmers: “We have looked at
a scenario where heavy goods vehicles drive the 553 kilometres
between Helsingborg and Stockholm in Sweden. We have compared two
different battery sizes and two possible prices for fast charging.
Our conclusion is that it seems possible to electrify this type of
vehicle in a cost-effective way.”
You're proving my point. And they're not even close to being sure
with "it seems possible".
On 6/2/23 9:29 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 5:05:40 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/1/23 10:12 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 5:35:41 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Ah, you think I have a short-haul trucking business.
On 6/1/23 5:26 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 1:37:58 PM UTC-7, mINE109Why wouldn't I just buy the vehicle with the size engine I
wrote:
On 6/1/23 1:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:20:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109Not very long if its engine is the wrong size.
wrote:
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
When you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales
It seems like you've invented the requirement that
an engine can't be specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to be
people its intended use, you just say "surprise me"?
How long will you own the truck?
The future is going to be very amusing. Do promise to update
us with your financial ruin as you lose all your meager
savings flipping rapidly depreciating EVs every time you find
you wish you had a different battery configuration.
need?
I bet your needs are fixed and unchanging. I can definitely see
that with you.
I know my wife's little truck occasionally gets overloaded with yardRent another truck.
waste or rock/gravel/sand for whatever project she's got going.
I'll update you when: I do; EVs for transport are available; and
it's impossible to specify the size of a load to be transported.
Exactly....and diesel trucks are quite versatile in their function. EVs.....not so much.A truck is a truck.
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 8:35:00 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/2/23 9:29 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 5:05:40 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Rent another truck.
On 6/1/23 10:12 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 5:35:41 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Ah, you think I have a short-haul trucking business.
On 6/1/23 5:26 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 1:37:58 PM UTC-7, mINE109Why wouldn't I just buy the vehicle with the size engine I
wrote:
On 6/1/23 1:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:20:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109Not very long if its engine is the wrong size.
wrote:
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
When you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales
It seems like you've invented the requirement that
an engine can't be specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to be
people its intended use, you just say "surprise me"?
How long will you own the truck?
The future is going to be very amusing. Do promise to update
us with your financial ruin as you lose all your meager
savings flipping rapidly depreciating EVs every time you find
you wish you had a different battery configuration.
need?
I bet your needs are fixed and unchanging. I can definitely see
that with you.
I know my wife's little truck occasionally gets overloaded with yard
waste or rock/gravel/sand for whatever project she's got going.
Yeah...that's efficient and cost effective for a shipping company.
A truck is a truck.I'll update you when: I do; EVs for transport are available; and
it's impossible to specify the size of a load to be transported.
Exactly....and diesel trucks are quite versatile in their function.
EVs.....not so much.
and this is why the GND will be an epic disaster for everyone.
and this is why the GND will be an epic disaster for everyone.Cheaper, less polluting, less bad for the planet. Not exactly a
disaster, epic or otherwise.
On 6/2/23 11:04 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 8:35:00 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/2/23 9:29 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 5:05:40 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Rent another truck.
On 6/1/23 10:12 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 5:35:41 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Ah, you think I have a short-haul trucking business.
On 6/1/23 5:26 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 1:37:58 PM UTC-7, mINE109Why wouldn't I just buy the vehicle with the size engine I
wrote:
On 6/1/23 1:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:20:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109Not very long if its engine is the wrong size.
wrote:
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
When you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales
It seems like you've invented the requirement that
an engine can't be specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to be
people its intended use, you just say "surprise me"?
How long will you own the truck?
The future is going to be very amusing. Do promise to update
us with your financial ruin as you lose all your meager
savings flipping rapidly depreciating EVs every time you find >>>>>>> you wish you had a different battery configuration.
need?
I bet your needs are fixed and unchanging. I can definitely see
that with you.
I know my wife's little truck occasionally gets overloaded with yard
waste or rock/gravel/sand for whatever project she's got going.
Yeah...that's efficient and cost effective for a shipping company.Sorry, I thought
On 6/2/23 4:57 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 11:24:14 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/2/23 11:04 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 8:35:00 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Sorry, I thought
On 6/2/23 9:29 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 5:05:40 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Rent another truck.
On 6/1/23 10:12 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 5:35:41 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 6/1/23 5:26 PM, ScottW wrote:Ah, you think I have a short-haul trucking business.
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 1:37:58 PM UTC-7, mINE109Why wouldn't I just buy the vehicle with the size engine I
wrote:
On 6/1/23 1:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:20:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109 >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Not very long if its engine is the wrong size.
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:How long will you own the truck?
When you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales
It seems like you've invented the requirement that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an engine can't be specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to be
people its intended use, you just say "surprise me"? >>>>>>>>>>>
The future is going to be very amusing. Do promise to update >>>>>>>>> us with your financial ruin as you lose all your meager
savings flipping rapidly depreciating EVs every time you find >>>>>>>>> you wish you had a different battery configuration.
need?
I bet your needs are fixed and unchanging. I can definitely see >>>>>>> that with you.
I know my wife's little truck occasionally gets overloaded with yard >>>>> waste or rock/gravel/sand for whatever project she's got going.
Yeah...that's efficient and cost effective for a shipping company.
No, you don't, and I'm becoming convinced you cannot.I noticed you snipped away the actual scientific study
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 11:24:14 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/2/23 11:04 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 8:35:00 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Sorry, I thought
On 6/2/23 9:29 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 5:05:40 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Rent another truck.
On 6/1/23 10:12 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 5:35:41 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 6/1/23 5:26 PM, ScottW wrote:Ah, you think I have a short-haul trucking business.
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 1:37:58 PM UTC-7, mINE109Why wouldn't I just buy the vehicle with the size engine I
wrote:
On 6/1/23 1:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:20:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109 >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Not very long if its engine is the wrong size.
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
When you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales
It seems like you've invented the requirement that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an engine can't be specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to be
people its intended use, you just say "surprise me"?
How long will you own the truck?
The future is going to be very amusing. Do promise to update >>>>>>>>> us with your financial ruin as you lose all your meager
savings flipping rapidly depreciating EVs every time you find >>>>>>>>> you wish you had a different battery configuration.
need?
I bet your needs are fixed and unchanging. I can definitely see
that with you.
I know my wife's little truck occasionally gets overloaded with yard >>>>> waste or rock/gravel/sand for whatever project she's got going.
Yeah...that's efficient and cost effective for a shipping company.
No, you don't, and I'm becoming convinced you cannot.
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 7:45:09 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/2/23 4:57 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 11:24:14 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:I noticed you snipped away the actual scientific study
On 6/2/23 11:04 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 8:35:00 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Sorry, I thought
On 6/2/23 9:29 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 5:05:40 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Rent another truck.
On 6/1/23 10:12 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 5:35:41 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 6/1/23 5:26 PM, ScottW wrote:Ah, you think I have a short-haul trucking business.
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 1:37:58 PM UTC-7, mINE109 >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Why wouldn't I just buy the vehicle with the size engine I >>>>>>>>>> need?
On 6/1/23 1:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:20:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109 >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Not very long if its engine is the wrong size.
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:How long will you own the truck?
When you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people its intended use, you just say "surprise me"? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
It seems like you've invented the requirement that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an engine can't be specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to be
The future is going to be very amusing. Do promise to update >>>>>>>>>>> us with your financial ruin as you lose all your meager
savings flipping rapidly depreciating EVs every time you find >>>>>>>>>>> you wish you had a different battery configuration.
I bet your needs are fixed and unchanging. I can definitely see >>>>>>>>> that with you.
I know my wife's little truck occasionally gets overloaded with yard >>>>>>> waste or rock/gravel/sand for whatever project she's got going.
Yeah...that's efficient and cost effective for a shipping company.
No, you don't, and I'm becoming convinced you cannot.
Terminal to terminal shipping is your example?
Thats a rather "best case" and all they can say is it seems "cost effective" while they're really pimping the use of public chargers to make them "profitable".
In reality, reliance on public chargers is the number 1 bad idea reported
by US EV owners as they're too often broke down, vandalized, or just plain ripped off.
They want to stick them out their like unmanned vending machines without
a cage. And don't arrest anyone who breaks into them.
Only a moron would make a marginal case for such a huge investment and
base it upon a known fallacy.
But your agenda is not one devoted to truth.
On 6/3/23 10:07 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 7:45:09 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/2/23 4:57 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 11:24:14 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:I noticed you snipped away the actual scientific study
On 6/2/23 11:04 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 8:35:00 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/2/23 9:29 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 5:05:40 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 6/1/23 10:12 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 5:35:41 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 6/1/23 5:26 PM, ScottW wrote:Ah, you think I have a short-haul trucking business.
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 1:37:58 PM UTC-7, mINE109 >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Why wouldn't I just buy the vehicle with the size engine I >>>>>>>>>> need?
On 6/1/23 1:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:20:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109 >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Not very long if its engine is the wrong size.
On 5/31/23 5:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:How long will you own the truck?
When you buy a truck, instead of telling the sales >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people its intended use, you just say "surprise me"? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
It seems like you've invented the requirement that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an engine can't be specified for its task.
No. Just that it shouldn't have to be
The future is going to be very amusing. Do promise to update >>>>>>>>>>> us with your financial ruin as you lose all your meager >>>>>>>>>>> savings flipping rapidly depreciating EVs every time you find >>>>>>>>>>> you wish you had a different battery configuration.
I bet your needs are fixed and unchanging. I can definitely see >>>>>>>>> that with you.
I know my wife's little truck occasionally gets overloaded with yard >>>>>>> waste or rock/gravel/sand for whatever project she's got going. >>>>>> Rent another truck.
Yeah...that's efficient and cost effective for a shipping company. >>>> Sorry, I thought
No, you don't, and I'm becoming convinced you cannot.
Terminal to terminal shipping is your example?No, it's your example from your original post: "New research from
Sweden’s Chalmers University of Technology"
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 9:10:58 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/3/23 10:07 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 7:45:09 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
No, it's your example from your original post: "New research fromI noticed you snipped away the actual scientific study
Terminal to terminal shipping is your example?
Sweden’s Chalmers University of Technology"
and even in the best case it has little chance of being efficient.
On 6/3/23 5:23 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 9:10:58 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/3/23 10:07 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 7:45:09 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
No, it's your example from your original post: "New research fromI noticed you snipped away the actual scientific study
Terminal to terminal shipping is your example?
Sweden’s Chalmers University of Technology"
and even in the best case it has little chance of being efficient.Just cheaper.
On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:04:11 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/3/23 5:23 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 9:10:58 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/3/23 10:07 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 7:45:09 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
No, it's your example from your original post: "New research fromI noticed you snipped away the actual scientific study
Terminal to terminal shipping is your example?
Sweden’s Chalmers University of Technology"
And now you're just making shit up.and even in the best case it has little chance of being efficient.Just cheaper.
ScottW
On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 5:25:35 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:04:11 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/3/23 5:23 PM, ScottW wrote:And now you're just making shit up.
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 9:10:58 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Just cheaper.
On 6/3/23 10:07 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 7:45:09 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
No, it's your example from your original post: "New research fromI noticed you snipped away the actual scientific study
Terminal to terminal shipping is your example?
Sweden’s Chalmers University of Technology"
and even in the best case it has little chance of being efficient.
Now??? He just started????
On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:04:11 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/3/23 5:23 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 9:10:58 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Just cheaper.
On 6/3/23 10:07 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 7:45:09 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
No, it's your example from your original post: "New research fromI noticed you snipped away the actual scientific study
Terminal to terminal shipping is your example?
Sweden’s Chalmers University of Technology"
and even in the best case it has little chance of being efficient.
And now you're just making shit up.
On 6/4/23 4:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:04:11 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 6/3/23 5:23 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 9:10:58 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Just cheaper.
On 6/3/23 10:07 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 7:45:09 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
No, it's your example from your original post: "New research fromI noticed you snipped away the actual scientific study
Terminal to terminal shipping is your example?
Sweden’s Chalmers University of Technology"
and even in the best case it has little chance of being efficient.
And now you're just making shit up.Based on the study you cited:
https://www.mdpi.com/1996-1073/16/6/2793
7. Discussion
This paper shows that long-haul battery-electric trucks can compete with diesel trucks, even if the price of diesel fuel is only 1.2 EUR/litre (excluding VAT), and even more so if the price of diesel fuel stays at
the current high level of 1.8 EUR/litre. However, what makes the problem complex is the difficulty of determining the battery capacity and
charging strategy if there is significant price uncertainty in public
fast charging...
On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 8:26:32 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:"A different truck configuration for every load." No, it's not. The
On 6/4/23 4:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:04:11 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Based on the study you cited:
On 6/3/23 5:23 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 9:10:58 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Just cheaper.
On 6/3/23 10:07 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 7:45:09 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
No, it's your example from your original post: "New research fromI noticed you snipped away the actual scientific study
Terminal to terminal shipping is your example?
Sweden’s Chalmers University of Technology"
and even in the best case it has little chance of being efficient.
And now you're just making shit up.
https://www.mdpi.com/1996-1073/16/6/2793
7. Discussion
This paper shows that long-haul battery-electric trucks can compete with
diesel trucks, even if the price of diesel fuel is only 1.2 EUR/litre
(excluding VAT), and even more so if the price of diesel fuel stays at
the current high level of 1.8 EUR/litre. However, what makes the problem
complex is the difficulty of determining the battery capacity and
charging strategy if there is significant price uncertainty in public
fast charging...
Which is evidence in support of my original point.
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