But the fact that you have a clearance does not mean you have access to everything at that level. That access is based on your "need to know" the information for your job. That term refers to someone with a security clearance who is allowed to see
certain levels of classified documents only if they "need to know" that information to carry out their jobs.

To service the computers and networks he worked on, Teixeira would've had access to highly sensitive networks, but if he wanted to access highly classified documents on that network for his job he could do so only if he had that (need to know) clearance.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/document-leak-suspect-jack-teixeira-high-level-top/story?id=98589258

Patel lays it out...

“This is crazy sensitive stuff,” he said. “Ninety-nine percent of people who have a Top Secret/SCI clearance don’t have access to this information. And me, as the former deputy DNI and chief of staff of the DOD and publisher of the [Presidential
Daily Brief], with the highest security classification, knows that, literally, there is not a lot of people in the U.S. that have access to this kind of intel. It’s done for a reason. So this doesn’t happen.”

“The amount of intelligence they got…Somebody’s giving them that type of documentation. It’s just not readily available,” he said about the reporting. “Where did they get that from? That doesn’t come from anyone who doesn’t have direct
access at the end in the United States.”

“Whether he’s in IT or not, is irrelevant. The way it was produced, the way it was put out there — pages, printed photographs taken, published online — that is a methodical way of releasing classified information illegally,” he said.

“I think he’s definitely working with other people in DOD or the intel space to get this information out. This is an Assange-style operation. This kid — no offense to him — at 21 years old, cannot put out this five-months, unlawful disclosure of
sensitive intelligence,” he said.
(end quote)

Over 10 years ago I had a role as server admin for software release.
My group (not even in IT or Software Development) took on the role of managing software release. The software guys hated doing it and loathed documenting what their software actually did. (Probably helped keep them from being outsourced). Anyway, part
of the job was controlling access to the server of non-production software release for testing purposes.
Too often this preliminary untested code was finding it's way into the field. No big deal controlling server access. It's trivial.
But if you really want to control file access you need another level of security that is readily available in many commercial forms. File access and limitations come in Adobe for example. You can view but can't print for example. So just cuz this kid
was in IT and had server access would in no way give him access to everything on the server. There is a lot more to this story.

ScottW

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On 4/16/23 8:02 PM, ScottW wrote:

But the fact that you have a clearance does not mean you have access
to everything at that level. That access is based on your "need to
know" the information for your job. That term refers to someone with
a security clearance who is allowed to see certain levels of
classified documents only if they "need to know" that information to
carry out their jobs.

To service the computers and networks he worked on, Teixeira would've
had access to highly sensitive networks, but if he wanted to access
highly classified documents on that network for his job he could do
so only if he had that (need to know) clearance.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23777340/teixeira-charges.pdf

I don't see a charge for unlawful access. The charges are unlawful
possession and unlawful disclosure.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/document-leak-suspect-jack-teixeira-high-level-top/story?id=98589258

Patel lays it out...

“I think he’s definitely working with other people in DOD or the
intel space to get this information out. This is an Assange-style
operation. This kid — no offense to him — at 21 years old, cannot put
out this five-months, unlawful disclosure of sensitive intelligence,”
he said. (end quote)

He's jumping to conclusions. It's not inconceivable Teixeira had access
to these documents. If he had wanted to leak them he would have sought
out a journalist and if he were engaged in espionage he'd have hidden
the transmission.

Over 10 years ago I had a role as server admin for software release.
My group (not even in IT or Software Development) took on the role of managing software release. The software guys hated doing it and
loathed documenting what their software actually did. (Probably
helped keep them from being outsourced). Anyway, part of the job was controlling access to the server of non-production software release
for testing purposes. Too often this preliminary untested code was
finding it's way into the field. No big deal controlling server
access. It's trivial. But if you really want to control file access
you need another level of security that is readily available in many commercial forms. File access and limitations come in Adobe for
example. You can view but can't print for example. So just cuz this
kid was in IT and had server access would in no way give him access
to everything on the server. There is a lot more to this story.

That last is likely.

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On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:52:38 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/16/23 8:02 PM, ScottW wrote:

But the fact that you have a clearance does not mean you have access
to everything at that level. That access is based on your "need to
know" the information for your job. That term refers to someone with
a security clearance who is allowed to see certain levels of
classified documents only if they "need to know" that information to
carry out their jobs.

To service the computers and networks he worked on, Teixeira would've
had access to highly sensitive networks, but if he wanted to access
highly classified documents on that network for his job he could do
so only if he had that (need to know) clearance.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23777340/teixeira-charges.pdf

I don't see a charge for unlawful access. The charges are unlawful possession and unlawful disclosure.

Which implies an accomplice unlawfully accessed and provide him the documents.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/document-leak-suspect-jack-teixeira-high-level-top/story?id=98589258

Patel lays it out...
“I think he’s definitely working with other people in DOD or the
intel space to get this information out. This is an Assange-style operation. This kid — no offense to him — at 21 years old, cannot put out this five-months, unlawful disclosure of sensitive intelligence,”
he said. (end quote)

He's jumping to conclusions. It's not inconceivable Teixeira had access
to these documents.

Not to you....but you don't really know shit.

Maybe wiki can convince you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_compartmented_information

Eligibility for access to SCI is determined by a Single Scope Background Investigation (SSBI) or periodic reinvestigation.[4] Because the same investigation is used to grant Top Secret security clearances, the two are often written together as TS//SCI.
Eligibility alone does not confer access to any specific SCI material; it is simply a qualification. One must receive explicit permission to access an SCI control system or compartment.

He didn't have the authorization to access many of the docs he published.

And the security protecting those documents is not an "honor system".

If he had wanted to leak them he would have sought
out a journalist and if he were engaged in espionage he'd have hidden
the transmission.

You presume...but then again, a journalist publishing TSSCI labeled docs would also be jailed.
So would his editors who approved publishing it. So given that....sending 'em to a journalist might
not have accomplished anything.

I'm not claiming this kid is some kind of nefarious spy. More likely a stupid tool of someone who
wants to embarrass the admin and possibly doesn't want Biden to run in '24.
But hard to tell, the whole story is so bizarre.

ScottW

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On 4/17/23 8:36 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:52:38 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/16/23 8:02 PM, ScottW wrote:

But the fact that you have a clearance does not mean you have access
to everything at that level. That access is based on your "need to
know" the information for your job. That term refers to someone with
a security clearance who is allowed to see certain levels of
classified documents only if they "need to know" that information to
carry out their jobs.

To service the computers and networks he worked on, Teixeira would've
had access to highly sensitive networks, but if he wanted to access
highly classified documents on that network for his job he could do
so only if he had that (need to know) clearance.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23777340/teixeira-charges.pdf

I don't see a charge for unlawful access. The charges are unlawful
possession and unlawful disclosure.

Which implies an accomplice unlawfully accessed and provide him the documents.

There would be a charge for receiving them from an unindicted
co-conspirator.

He had clearance and access to servers. No need for another party.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/document-leak-suspect-jack-teixeira-high-level-top/story?id=98589258

Patel lays it out...
“I think he’s definitely working with other people in DOD or the
intel space to get this information out. This is an Assange-style
operation. This kid — no offense to him — at 21 years old, cannot put >>> out this five-months, unlawful disclosure of sensitive intelligence,”
he said. (end quote)

He's jumping to conclusions. It's not inconceivable Teixeira had access
to these documents.

Not to you....but you don't really know shit.

I'm taking the Discord peeps at their word, but I'll defer to your
military experience with classified materials.

WaPo: "Teixeira told members of the online group that he worked as a
technology support staffer at a base on Cape Cod and that this was how
he was able to access classified documents, one member of the Discord
server told The Post."

And:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/why-jack-teixeira-had-access-to-so-much-classified-information.html

"Otis Air Base, the Cape Cod home to the Massachusetts Air National
Guard, is one of a few northeastern bases for NORAD, the North American Aerospace Defense Command. This means one of its main missions is to
detect, track, intercept, and defend against foreign incursions of U.S.
air space.

As such, according to a former intelligence officer who still does
high-level intelligence analysis, the base would routinely have access
to reports and dispatches filed on the Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communication System (JWICS, often pronounced J-Wicks)—and the key word
here is worldwide. All information about foreign aircraft, air-defense
weapons, military operations, and foreign-policy decisions would be
swept up and transmitted throughout the system."

Maybe wiki can convince you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_compartmented_information

He didn't have the authorization to access many of the docs he published.

"Teixeira... was an IT specialist in the intelligence unit, meaning he
would have had access to the JWICS—and, once inside that system, he
could have searched any topic."

And the security protecting those documents is not an "honor system".

Hence his habit of transcribing by hand, or printing and photographing
because he couldn't download the docs.

If he had wanted to leak them he would have sought
out a journalist and if he were engaged in espionage he'd have hidden
the transmission.

You presume...but then again, a journalist publishing TSSCI labeled docs would also be jailed.
So would his editors who approved publishing it. So given that....sending 'em to a journalist might
not have accomplished anything.

That follows from the first thing. I'm sure there's some present-day
equivalent to wikileaks he could have found.

I'm not claiming this kid is some kind of nefarious spy. More likely a stupid tool of someone who
wants to embarrass the admin and possibly doesn't want Biden to run in '24. But hard to tell, the whole story is so bizarre.

No, while I'm sure he's a RWNJ just like you, his motivation appears to
be impressing his buddies online in the Discord chat room. He may have
liked being able to lord over his friends due to his special knowledge.
Too bad the chat included Russian sympathizers.

https://apnews.com/article/jack-teixeira-leaked-national-guard-military-ukraine-e3161fc35a3872ace55a36297a1cae68

"Members of the Discord group described Teixeira as someone looking to
show off, rather than being motivated by a desire to inform the public
about U.S. military operations or to influence American policy.

Without any evidence, some prominent people on the right have begun
hailing Teixeira as someone who aimed to expose the Biden administration
and prevent further U.S. involvement in the war in Ukraine."

Hey! You made the AP story!

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On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:26:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/17/23 8:36 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:52:38 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/16/23 8:02 PM, ScottW wrote:

But the fact that you have a clearance does not mean you have access
to everything at that level. That access is based on your "need to
know" the information for your job. That term refers to someone with
a security clearance who is allowed to see certain levels of
classified documents only if they "need to know" that information to
carry out their jobs.

To service the computers and networks he worked on, Teixeira would've >>> had access to highly sensitive networks, but if he wanted to access
highly classified documents on that network for his job he could do
so only if he had that (need to know) clearance.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23777340/teixeira-charges.pdf

I don't see a charge for unlawful access. The charges are unlawful
possession and unlawful disclosure.

Which implies an accomplice unlawfully accessed and provide him the documents.

There would be a charge for receiving them from an unindicted co-conspirator.

I doubt they're done piling up charges.

He had clearance and access to servers. No need for another party.

BS....I already pointed out multiple times that is not true.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/document-leak-suspect-jack-teixeira-high-level-top/story?id=98589258

Patel lays it out...
“I think he’s definitely working with other people in DOD or the
intel space to get this information out. This is an Assange-style
operation. This kid — no offense to him — at 21 years old, cannot put
out this five-months, unlawful disclosure of sensitive intelligence,” >>> he said. (end quote)

He's jumping to conclusions. It's not inconceivable Teixeira had access >> to these documents.

Not to you....but you don't really know shit.

I'm taking the Discord peeps at their word,

Well that's pretty stupid on your part.

but I'll defer to your
military experience with classified materials.

I'm taking Patel's word over your peeps as well as countless
others who point out that he would not have had access to those docs
just because of his security clearance.

WaPo: "Teixeira told members of the online group that he worked as a technology support staffer at a base on Cape Cod and that this was how
he was able to access classified documents, one member of the Discord
server told The Post."

And:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/why-jack-teixeira-had-access-to-so-much-classified-information.html

"Otis Air Base, the Cape Cod home to the Massachusetts Air National
Guard, is one of a few northeastern bases for NORAD, the North American Aerospace Defense Command. This means one of its main missions is to
detect, track, intercept, and defend against foreign incursions of U.S.
air space.

As such, according to a former intelligence officer who still does high-level intelligence analysis, the base would routinely have access
to reports and dispatches filed on the Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communication System (JWICS, often pronounced J-Wicks)—and the key word here is worldwide. All information about foreign aircraft, air-defense weapons, military operations, and foreign-policy decisions would be
swept up and transmitted throughout the system."

Maybe wiki can convince you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_compartmented_information
He didn't have the authorization to access many of the docs he published.

"Teixeira... was an IT specialist in the intelligence unit, meaning he
would have had access to the JWICS—and, once inside that system, he
could have searched any topic."

And the security protecting those documents is not an "honor system".

Hence his habit of transcribing by hand, or printing and photographing because he couldn't download the docs.

GMAFB.... you're trying to tell us the entire compartmentalized document security
system is a joke. I'm not buying it....yet.

ScottW

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On 4/18/23 6:10 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:26:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/17/23 8:36 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:52:38 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/16/23 8:02 PM, ScottW wrote:

But the fact that you have a clearance does not mean you have access >>>>> to everything at that level. That access is based on your "need to
know" the information for your job. That term refers to someone with >>>>> a security clearance who is allowed to see certain levels of
classified documents only if they "need to know" that information to >>>>> carry out their jobs.

To service the computers and networks he worked on, Teixeira would've >>>>> had access to highly sensitive networks, but if he wanted to access
highly classified documents on that network for his job he could do
so only if he had that (need to know) clearance.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23777340/teixeira-charges.pdf

I don't see a charge for unlawful access. The charges are unlawful
possession and unlawful disclosure.

Which implies an accomplice unlawfully accessed and provide him the documents.

There would be a charge for receiving them from an unindicted
co-conspirator.

I doubt they're done piling up charges.

He had clearance and access to servers. No need for another party.

BS....I already pointed out multiple times that is not true.

No, you pointed to an ideal information management system.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/document-leak-suspect-jack-teixeira-high-level-top/story?id=98589258

Patel lays it out...
“I think he’s definitely working with other people in DOD or the >>>>> intel space to get this information out. This is an Assange-style
operation. This kid — no offense to him — at 21 years old, cannot put >>>>> out this five-months, unlawful disclosure of sensitive intelligence,” >>>>> he said. (end quote)

He's jumping to conclusions. It's not inconceivable Teixeira had access >>>> to these documents.

Not to you....but you don't really know shit.

I'm taking the Discord peeps at their word,

Well that's pretty stupid on your part.

Don't forget the "former intelligence officer who still does
high-level intelligence analysis."

but I'll defer to your
military experience with classified materials.

I'm taking Patel's word over your peeps as well as countless
others who point out that he would not have had access to those docs
just because of his security clearance.

His security clearance gave him access to JWICS, so that
compartmentalization isn't applicable once he's in.

Patel is speculating so there's no word involved on his part.

WaPo: "Teixeira told members of the online group that he worked as a
technology support staffer at a base on Cape Cod and that this was how
he was able to access classified documents, one member of the Discord
server told The Post."

And:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/why-jack-teixeira-had-access-to-so-much-classified-information.html

"Otis Air Base, the Cape Cod home to the Massachusetts Air National
Guard, is one of a few northeastern bases for NORAD, the North American
Aerospace Defense Command. This means one of its main missions is to
detect, track, intercept, and defend against foreign incursions of U.S.
air space.

As such, according to a former intelligence officer who still does
high-level intelligence analysis, the base would routinely have access
to reports and dispatches filed on the Joint Worldwide Intelligence
Communication System (JWICS, often pronounced J-Wicks)—and the key word
here is worldwide. All information about foreign aircraft, air-defense
weapons, military operations, and foreign-policy decisions would be
swept up and transmitted throughout the system."

Maybe wiki can convince you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_compartmented_information
He didn't have the authorization to access many of the docs he published. >> "Teixeira... was an IT specialist in the intelligence unit, meaning he

would have had access to the JWICS—and, once inside that system, he
could have searched any topic."

And the security protecting those documents is not an "honor system".

Hence his habit of transcribing by hand, or printing and photographing
because he couldn't download the docs.

GMAFB.... you're trying to tell us the entire compartmentalized document security
system is a joke. I'm not buying it....yet.

Not just me.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/4/14/2163656/-This-Isn-t-The-Story-Of-One-Lone-Numbnut-Teixeira-s-Chain-Of-Command-Bears-As-Much-Responsibility

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On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 9:39:44 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/18/23 6:10 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:26:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/17/23 8:36 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:52:38 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/16/23 8:02 PM, ScottW wrote:

But the fact that you have a clearance does not mean you have access >>>>> to everything at that level. That access is based on your "need to >>>>> know" the information for your job. That term refers to someone with >>>>> a security clearance who is allowed to see certain levels of
classified documents only if they "need to know" that information to >>>>> carry out their jobs.

To service the computers and networks he worked on, Teixeira would've >>>>> had access to highly sensitive networks, but if he wanted to access >>>>> highly classified documents on that network for his job he could do >>>>> so only if he had that (need to know) clearance.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23777340/teixeira-charges.pdf >>>>
I don't see a charge for unlawful access. The charges are unlawful
possession and unlawful disclosure.

Which implies an accomplice unlawfully accessed and provide him the documents.

There would be a charge for receiving them from an unindicted
co-conspirator.

I doubt they're done piling up charges.

He had clearance and access to servers. No need for another party.

BS....I already pointed out multiple times that is not true.

No, you pointed to an ideal information management system.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/document-leak-suspect-jack-teixeira-high-level-top/story?id=98589258

Patel lays it out...
“I think he’s definitely working with other people in DOD or the >>>>> intel space to get this information out. This is an Assange-style >>>>> operation. This kid — no offense to him — at 21 years old, cannot put
out this five-months, unlawful disclosure of sensitive intelligence,”
he said. (end quote)

He's jumping to conclusions. It's not inconceivable Teixeira had access >>>> to these documents.

Not to you....but you don't really know shit.

I'm taking the Discord peeps at their word,

Well that's pretty stupid on your part.

Don't forget the "former intelligence officer who still does
high-level intelligence analysis."

A resume from discord? LoL.

but I'll defer to your
military experience with classified materials.

I'm taking Patel's word over your peeps as well as countless
others who point out that he would not have had access to those docs
just because of his security clearance.

His security clearance gave him access to JWICS, so that compartmentalization isn't applicable once he's in.

Which is apparently the case and I find it absurdly incompetent.
Our DoD can't come up with as good a security as comes with Adobe Pro.

ScottW

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On 4/19/23 12:19 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 9:39:44 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/18/23 6:10 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:26:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/17/23 8:36 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:52:38 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/16/23 8:02 PM, ScottW wrote:

But the fact that you have a clearance does not mean you have access >>>>>>> to everything at that level. That access is based on your "need to >>>>>>> know" the information for your job. That term refers to someone with >>>>>>> a security clearance who is allowed to see certain levels of
classified documents only if they "need to know" that information to >>>>>>> carry out their jobs.

To service the computers and networks he worked on, Teixeira would've >>>>>>> had access to highly sensitive networks, but if he wanted to access >>>>>>> highly classified documents on that network for his job he could do >>>>>>> so only if he had that (need to know) clearance.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23777340/teixeira-charges.pdf >>>>>>
I don't see a charge for unlawful access. The charges are unlawful >>>>>> possession and unlawful disclosure.

Which implies an accomplice unlawfully accessed and provide him the documents.

There would be a charge for receiving them from an unindicted
co-conspirator.

I doubt they're done piling up charges.

He had clearance and access to servers. No need for another party.

BS....I already pointed out multiple times that is not true.

No, you pointed to an ideal information management system.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/document-leak-suspect-jack-teixeira-high-level-top/story?id=98589258

Patel lays it out...
“I think he’s definitely working with other people in DOD or the >>>>>>> intel space to get this information out. This is an Assange-style >>>>>>> operation. This kid — no offense to him — at 21 years old, cannot put
out this five-months, unlawful disclosure of sensitive intelligence,” >>>>>>> he said. (end quote)

He's jumping to conclusions. It's not inconceivable Teixeira had access >>>>>> to these documents.

Not to you....but you don't really know shit.

I'm taking the Discord peeps at their word,

Well that's pretty stupid on your part.

Don't forget the "former intelligence officer who still does
high-level intelligence analysis."

A resume from discord? LoL.

Cute, but you know that's a different person.

but I'll defer to your
military experience with classified materials.

I'm taking Patel's word over your peeps as well as countless
others who point out that he would not have had access to those docs
just because of his security clearance.

His security clearance gave him access to JWICS, so that
compartmentalization isn't applicable once he's in.

Which is apparently the case and I find it absurdly incompetent.

Now you've found something I can agree with.

Our DoD can't come up with as good a security as comes with Adobe Pro.

Oddly, he might have been harmless if not for the collective known as
Donbass Devushka:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/4/16/2164275/-Here-on-Whidbey-Island-we-have-our-own-Leaker-of-Secrets-Sarah-Blis-AKA-Donbass-Devushka

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On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:14:45 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/19/23 12:19 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 9:39:44 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/18/23 6:10 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:26:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/17/23 8:36 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:52:38 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/16/23 8:02 PM, ScottW wrote:

But the fact that you have a clearance does not mean you have access >>>>>>> to everything at that level. That access is based on your "need to >>>>>>> know" the information for your job. That term refers to someone with >>>>>>> a security clearance who is allowed to see certain levels of
classified documents only if they "need to know" that information to >>>>>>> carry out their jobs.

To service the computers and networks he worked on, Teixeira would've
had access to highly sensitive networks, but if he wanted to access >>>>>>> highly classified documents on that network for his job he could do >>>>>>> so only if he had that (need to know) clearance.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23777340/teixeira-charges.pdf >>>>>>
I don't see a charge for unlawful access. The charges are unlawful >>>>>> possession and unlawful disclosure.

Which implies an accomplice unlawfully accessed and provide him the documents.

There would be a charge for receiving them from an unindicted
co-conspirator.

I doubt they're done piling up charges.

He had clearance and access to servers. No need for another party.

BS....I already pointed out multiple times that is not true.

No, you pointed to an ideal information management system.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/document-leak-suspect-jack-teixeira-high-level-top/story?id=98589258

Patel lays it out...
“I think he’s definitely working with other people in DOD or the >>>>>>> intel space to get this information out. This is an Assange-style >>>>>>> operation. This kid — no offense to him — at 21 years old, cannot put
out this five-months, unlawful disclosure of sensitive intelligence,”
he said. (end quote)

He's jumping to conclusions. It's not inconceivable Teixeira had access
to these documents.

Not to you....but you don't really know shit.

I'm taking the Discord peeps at their word,

Well that's pretty stupid on your part.

Don't forget the "former intelligence officer who still does
high-level intelligence analysis."

A resume from discord? LoL.

Cute, but you know that's a different person.

Actually I don't. If it's not some bragging discord peep then I have no
idea who you're talking about.

but I'll defer to your
military experience with classified materials.

I'm taking Patel's word over your peeps as well as countless
others who point out that he would not have had access to those docs
just because of his security clearance.

His security clearance gave him access to JWICS, so that
compartmentalization isn't applicable once he's in.

Which is apparently the case and I find it absurdly incompetent.

Now you've found something I can agree with.

Our DoD can't come up with as good a security as comes with Adobe Pro.

Oddly, he might have been harmless if not for the collective known as Donbass Devushka:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/4/16/2164275/-Here-on-Whidbey-Island-we-have-our-own-Leaker-of-Secrets-Sarah-Blis-AKA-Donbass-Devushka

The only thing I can find in that pile of shit that isn't some petty smear with little justification is this
"The Pentagon has gotten sloppy."

ScottW

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On 4/19/23 9:48 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:14:45 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/19/23 12:19 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 9:39:44 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/18/23 6:10 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:26:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109
wrote:

On 4/17/23 8:36 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:52:38 AM UTC-7, mINE109
wrote:

On 4/16/23 8:02 PM, ScottW wrote:

But the fact that you have a clearance does not mean
you have access to everything at that level. That
access is based on your "need to know" the
information for your job. That term refers to someone
with a security clearance who is allowed to see
certain levels of classified documents only if they
"need to know" that information to carry out their
jobs.

To service the computers and networks he worked on,
Teixeira would've had access to highly sensitive
networks, but if he wanted to access highly
classified documents on that network for his job he
could do so only if he had that (need to know)
clearance.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23777340/teixeira-charges.pdf >>>>>>>>

I don't see a charge for unlawful access. The charges are unlawful

possession and unlawful disclosure.

Which implies an accomplice unlawfully accessed and
provide him the documents.

There would be a charge for receiving them from an
unindicted co-conspirator.

I doubt they're done piling up charges.

He had clearance and access to servers. No need for another
party.

BS....I already pointed out multiple times that is not true.

No, you pointed to an ideal information management system.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/document-leak-suspect-jack-teixeira-high-level-top/story?id=98589258

Patel lays it out...

“I think he’s definitely working with other people in
DOD or the intel space to get this information out.
This is an Assange-style operation. This kid — no
offense to him — at 21 years old, cannot put out this
five-months, unlawful disclosure of sensitive
intelligence,” he said. (end quote)

He's jumping to conclusions. It's not inconceivable
Teixeira had access to these documents.

Not to you....but you don't really know shit.

I'm taking the Discord peeps at their word,

Well that's pretty stupid on your part.

Don't forget the "former intelligence officer who still does
high-level intelligence analysis."

A resume from discord? LoL.

Cute, but you know that's a different person.

Actually I don't. If it's not some bragging discord peep then I have
no idea who you're talking about.

It's from the Slate piece, definitely not a discord peep.

but I'll defer to your military experience with classified
materials.

I'm taking Patel's word over your peeps as well as countless
others who point out that he would not have had access to
those docs just because of his security clearance.

His security clearance gave him access to JWICS, so that
compartmentalization isn't applicable once he's in.

Which is apparently the case and I find it absurdly incompetent.

Now you've found something I can agree with.

Our DoD can't come up with as good a security as comes with Adobe
Pro.

Oddly, he might have been harmless if not for the collective known
as Donbass Devushka:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/4/16/2164275/-Here-on-Whidbey-Island-we-have-our-own-Leaker-of-Secrets-Sarah-Blis-AKA-Donbass-Devushka

The only thing I can find in that pile of shit that isn't some petty
smear with little justification is this "The Pentagon has gotten
sloppy."

Maybe you'll like it better from the Washington Examiner:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/former-navy-sailor-outed-as-behind-pro-russian-donbass-devushka-accounts/ar-AA19YHtA

Originally WSJ (paywall):

https://www.wsj.com/articles/social-media-account-overseen-by-former-navy-noncommissioned-officer-helped-spread-secrets-a4b5643b

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On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 7:25:06 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/19/23 9:48 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:14:45 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/19/23 12:19 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 9:39:44 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/18/23 6:10 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:26:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109
wrote:

On 4/17/23 8:36 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:52:38 AM UTC-7, mINE109
wrote:

On 4/16/23 8:02 PM, ScottW wrote:

But the fact that you have a clearance does not mean
you have access to everything at that level. That
access is based on your "need to know" the
information for your job. That term refers to someone
with a security clearance who is allowed to see
certain levels of classified documents only if they
"need to know" that information to carry out their
jobs.

To service the computers and networks he worked on,
Teixeira would've had access to highly sensitive
networks, but if he wanted to access highly
classified documents on that network for his job he
could do so only if he had that (need to know)
clearance.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23777340/teixeira-charges.pdf

I don't see a charge for unlawful access. The charges are unlawful

possession and unlawful disclosure.

Which implies an accomplice unlawfully accessed and
provide him the documents.

There would be a charge for receiving them from an
unindicted co-conspirator.

I doubt they're done piling up charges.

He had clearance and access to servers. No need for another
party.

BS....I already pointed out multiple times that is not true.

No, you pointed to an ideal information management system.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/document-leak-suspect-jack-teixeira-high-level-top/story?id=98589258

Patel lays it out...

“I think he’s definitely working with other people in >>>>>>>>> DOD or the intel space to get this information out.
This is an Assange-style operation. This kid — no
offense to him — at 21 years old, cannot put out this
five-months, unlawful disclosure of sensitive
intelligence,” he said. (end quote)

He's jumping to conclusions. It's not inconceivable
Teixeira had access to these documents.

Not to you....but you don't really know shit.

I'm taking the Discord peeps at their word,

Well that's pretty stupid on your part.

Don't forget the "former intelligence officer who still does
high-level intelligence analysis."

A resume from discord? LoL.

Cute, but you know that's a different person.

Actually I don't. If it's not some bragging discord peep then I have
no idea who you're talking about.

It's from the Slate piece, definitely not a discord peep.

but I'll defer to your military experience with classified
materials.

I'm taking Patel's word over your peeps as well as countless
others who point out that he would not have had access to
those docs just because of his security clearance.

His security clearance gave him access to JWICS, so that
compartmentalization isn't applicable once he's in.

Which is apparently the case and I find it absurdly incompetent.

Now you've found something I can agree with.

Our DoD can't come up with as good a security as comes with Adobe
Pro.

Oddly, he might have been harmless if not for the collective known
as Donbass Devushka:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/4/16/2164275/-Here-on-Whidbey-Island-we-have-our-own-Leaker-of-Secrets-Sarah-Blis-AKA-Donbass-Devushka

The only thing I can find in that pile of shit that isn't some petty
smear with little justification is this "The Pentagon has gotten
sloppy."

Maybe you'll like it better from the Washington Examiner:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/former-navy-sailor-outed-as-behind-pro-russian-donbass-devushka-accounts/ar-AA19YHtA

Originally WSJ (paywall):

https://www.wsj.com/articles/social-media-account-overseen-by-former-navy-noncommissioned-officer-helped-spread-secrets-a4b5643b

Those "secrets" will never be put back in the safe. Even Kos was quoting from them and reporting not the exact content
but almost as bad...what the most devastating content was and where it was. This is noise from you.

ScottW

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On 4/20/23 10:56 AM, ScottW wrote:

On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 7:25:06 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/19/23 9:48 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:14:45 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

Oddly, he might have been harmless if not for the collective
known as Donbass Devushka:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/4/16/2164275/-Here-on-Whidbey-Island-we-have-our-own-Leaker-of-Secrets-Sarah-Blis-AKA-Donbass-Devushka

The only thing I can find in that pile of shit that isn't some
petty smear with little justification is this "The Pentagon has
gotten sloppy."

Maybe you'll like it better from the Washington Examiner:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/former-navy-sailor-outed-as-behind-pro-russian-donbass-devushka-accounts/ar-AA19YHtA

https://www.wsj.com/articles/social-media-account-overseen-by-former-navy-noncommissioned-officer-helped-spread-secrets-a4b5643b

Those "secrets" will never be put back in the safe. Even Kos was
quoting from them and reporting not the exact content but almost as bad...what the most devastating content was and where it was. This
is noise from you.

No, this is a direct response to your implication Teixeira was trying to publicize anything. He showed stuff to his friends and that was that
until someone, the Donbass Devushka, took it elsewhere with
modifications to make the Russians look better.

The noise is pretending this is an anti-Biden operation when the real
issues are information security management and why are there so many
Russian sympathizers in and around the military.

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and why are there so many

Russian sympathizers in and around the military.

It's all those transgenders.

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On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 10:08:25 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/20/23 10:56 AM, ScottW wrote:

On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 7:25:06 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/19/23 9:48 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:14:45 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

Oddly, he might have been harmless if not for the collective
known as Donbass Devushka:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/4/16/2164275/-Here-on-Whidbey-Island-we-have-our-own-Leaker-of-Secrets-Sarah-Blis-AKA-Donbass-Devushka

The only thing I can find in that pile of shit that isn't some
petty smear with little justification is this "The Pentagon has
gotten sloppy."

Maybe you'll like it better from the Washington Examiner:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/former-navy-sailor-outed-as-behind-pro-russian-donbass-devushka-accounts/ar-AA19YHtA
https://www.wsj.com/articles/social-media-account-overseen-by-former-navy-noncommissioned-officer-helped-spread-secrets-a4b5643b

Those "secrets" will never be put back in the safe. Even Kos was
quoting from them and reporting not the exact content but almost as bad...what the most devastating content was and where it was. This
is noise from you.

No, this is a direct response to your implication Teixeira was trying to publicize anything. He showed stuff to his friends and that was that
until someone, the Donbass Devushka, took it elsewhere with
modifications to make the Russians look better.

Which shows that "that" was not "that".

The noise is pretending this is an anti-Biden operation when the real
issues are information security management and why are there so many
Russian sympathizers in and around the military.

I wanna know why so many Chicomm sympathizers are piano teachers.

ScottW

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On 4/20/23 5:13 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 10:08:25 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/20/23 10:56 AM, ScottW wrote:

On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 7:25:06 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/19/23 9:48 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:14:45 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

Oddly, he might have been harmless if not for the collective
known as Donbass Devushka:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/4/16/2164275/-Here-on-Whidbey-Island-we-have-our-own-Leaker-of-Secrets-Sarah-Blis-AKA-Donbass-Devushka

The only thing I can find in that pile of shit that isn't some
petty smear with little justification is this "The Pentagon has
gotten sloppy."

Maybe you'll like it better from the Washington Examiner:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/former-navy-sailor-outed-as-behind-pro-russian-donbass-devushka-accounts/ar-AA19YHtA
https://www.wsj.com/articles/social-media-account-overseen-by-former-navy-noncommissioned-officer-helped-spread-secrets-a4b5643b

Those "secrets" will never be put back in the safe. Even Kos was
quoting from them and reporting not the exact content but almost as
bad...what the most devastating content was and where it was. This
is noise from you.

No, this is a direct response to your implication Teixeira was trying to
publicize anything. He showed stuff to his friends and that was that
until someone, the Donbass Devushka, took it elsewhere with
modifications to make the Russians look better.

Which shows that "that" was not "that".

Not until others took an interest.

The noise is pretending this is an anti-Biden operation when the real
issues are information security management and why are there so many
Russian sympathizers in and around the military.

I wanna know why so many Chicomm sympathizers are piano teachers.

The Donbass Devushka was a real thing, unlike your weak jibe.

Fun fact: a grad school classmate was said to be a victim of the
Cultural Revolution.

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On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 7:18:03 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/20/23 5:13 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 10:08:25 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/20/23 10:56 AM, ScottW wrote:

On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 7:25:06 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 4/19/23 9:48 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:14:45 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

Oddly, he might have been harmless if not for the collective
known as Donbass Devushka:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/4/16/2164275/-Here-on-Whidbey-Island-we-have-our-own-Leaker-of-Secrets-Sarah-Blis-AKA-Donbass-Devushka

The only thing I can find in that pile of shit that isn't some
petty smear with little justification is this "The Pentagon has
gotten sloppy."

Maybe you'll like it better from the Washington Examiner:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/former-navy-sailor-outed-as-behind-pro-russian-donbass-devushka-accounts/ar-AA19YHtA
https://www.wsj.com/articles/social-media-account-overseen-by-former-navy-noncommissioned-officer-helped-spread-secrets-a4b5643b

Those "secrets" will never be put back in the safe. Even Kos was
quoting from them and reporting not the exact content but almost as
bad...what the most devastating content was and where it was. This
is noise from you.

No, this is a direct response to your implication Teixeira was trying to >> publicize anything. He showed stuff to his friends and that was that
until someone, the Donbass Devushka, took it elsewhere with
modifications to make the Russians look better.

Which shows that "that" was not "that".

Not until others took an interest.

That was inevitable.

ScottW

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