Isn't the dem ass kisser he was on CNN. Why?
So why is Cuomo radically different in this new gig than he was on
CNN? Simple, NewsNation is after Fox audience.
On 4/15/23 11:25 AM, ScottW wrote:
Isn't the dem ass kisser he was on CNN. Why?Indeed. Even CNN is after the Fox audience these days. Also changing to
So why is Cuomo radically different in this new gig than he was on
CNN? Simple, NewsNation is after Fox audience.
get the Fox audience? Fox.
On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 9:51:20 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 4/15/23 11:25 AM, ScottW wrote:
Isn't the dem ass kisser he was on CNN. Why?Indeed. Even CNN is after the Fox audience these days. Also changing to
So why is Cuomo radically different in this new gig than he was on
CNN? Simple, NewsNation is after Fox audience.
get the Fox audience? Fox.
And now you're agreeing with me? WTH. That's almost disturbing. They all have the same motive.
And now you're agreeing with me? WTH. That's almost disturbing. They all have the same motive.Remember trying to correct me when I said NewsNation was conservative?
If anything, you're agreeing with me.
On 4/15/23 11:56 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 9:51:20 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 4/15/23 11:25 AM, ScottW wrote:
Isn't the dem ass kisser he was on CNN. Why?Indeed. Even CNN is after the Fox audience these days. Also changing to >> get the Fox audience? Fox.
So why is Cuomo radically different in this new gig than he was on
CNN? Simple, NewsNation is after Fox audience.
And now you're agreeing with me? WTH. That's almost disturbing. They all have the same motive.Remember trying to correct me when I said NewsNation was conservative?
If anything, you're agreeing with me.
On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 10:44:33 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 4/15/23 11:56 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 9:51:20 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Remember trying to correct me when I said NewsNation was conservative?
On 4/15/23 11:25 AM, ScottW wrote:
Isn't the dem ass kisser he was on CNN. Why?Indeed. Even CNN is after the Fox audience these days. Also changing to >>>> get the Fox audience? Fox.
So why is Cuomo radically different in this new gig than he was on
CNN? Simple, NewsNation is after Fox audience.
And now you're agreeing with me? WTH. That's almost disturbing. They all have the same motive.
They claim they're neither.
If anything, you're agreeing with me.
Nah, I'm just slowly peeling away all the layers of media and exposing them one by one
until there are none left that pass your test.
On 4/16/23 5:38 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 10:44:33 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 4/15/23 11:56 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 9:51:20 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Remember trying to correct me when I said NewsNation was conservative?
On 4/15/23 11:25 AM, ScottW wrote:
Isn't the dem ass kisser he was on CNN. Why?Indeed. Even CNN is after the Fox audience these days. Also changing to >>>> get the Fox audience? Fox.
So why is Cuomo radically different in this new gig than he was on >>>>> CNN? Simple, NewsNation is after Fox audience.
And now you're agreeing with me? WTH. That's almost disturbing. They all have the same motive.
They claim they're neither.Fox said they're "Fair and balanced."
If anything, you're agreeing with me.
Nah, I'm just slowly peeling away all the layers of media and exposing them one by one
until there are none left that pass your test.
My test?
Do you think things will get better if Republicans succeed in
making it easier to sue journalists?
On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:00:24 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 4/16/23 5:38 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 10:44:33 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Fox said they're "Fair and balanced."
On 4/15/23 11:56 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 9:51:20 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Remember trying to correct me when I said NewsNation was conservative?
On 4/15/23 11:25 AM, ScottW wrote:
Isn't the dem ass kisser he was on CNN. Why?Indeed. Even CNN is after the Fox audience these days. Also changing to >>>>>> get the Fox audience? Fox.
So why is Cuomo radically different in this new gig than he was on >>>>>>> CNN? Simple, NewsNation is after Fox audience.
And now you're agreeing with me? WTH. That's almost disturbing. They all have the same motive.
They claim they're neither.
Are you listening to Fox now?
If anything, you're agreeing with me.
Nah, I'm just slowly peeling away all the layers of media and exposing them one by one
until there are none left that pass your test.
My test?
Are you backtracking on that too already? It was indefensible so I can understand if you are.
Do you think things will get better if Republicans succeed in
making it easier to sue journalists?
I thought it was Dominion that was breaking that ground with precedent.
Then again, I did say there was a silver lining.
It was interesting tonight as Dan Abrams spent his entire first segment trashing Tucker...again
and then going into the dominion case (as did Cuomo before him).
But then he did the Akron story of the Grand Jury finding the cops acted within the law.
He ran a clip of mostly MSNBC saying repeatedly the police shot and killed an unarmed black man.
Then how Akron police had to stop weaing ID tags due to the death threats on all the cops involved.
Should MSNBC be held liable for those threats given that "shot an unarmed black man" isn't
nearly a complete telling of the story? I would say yes.
Just like Don Lemon and CNN should be held liable for inciting a riot in Ferguson.
I'd love to see discovery in that. I would not be surprised to find they actually discussed
how their ratings could spike if they could get violence to break out in Ferguson.
Most of the rest of the media had moved on.
So, I'm generally disgusted by the current state of media and would be willing to risk
making it even worse on the chance that it might make it better.
On 4/17/23 9:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:00:24 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 4/16/23 5:38 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 10:44:33 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Fox said they're "Fair and balanced."
On 4/15/23 11:56 AM, ScottW wrote:They claim they're neither.
On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 9:51:20 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 4/15/23 11:25 AM, ScottW wrote:Remember trying to correct me when I said NewsNation was conservative? >>>
Isn't the dem ass kisser he was on CNN. Why?Indeed. Even CNN is after the Fox audience these days. Also changing to
So why is Cuomo radically different in this new gig than he was on >>>>>>> CNN? Simple, NewsNation is after Fox audience.
get the Fox audience? Fox.
And now you're agreeing with me? WTH. That's almost disturbing. They all have the same motive.
Are you listening to Fox now?I do try to keep up with their court activities.
If anything, you're agreeing with me.
Nah, I'm just slowly peeling away all the layers of media and exposing them one by one
until there are none left that pass your test.
My test?
Are you backtracking on that too already? It was indefensible so I can understand if you are.I assume you've made up some strawman and calling it my test. Maybe it's related to this:
https://www.cjr.org/analysis/objectivity-wars-event-media-trust.php
"In an interview last fall, journalism scholar Jay Rosen referred to journalistic objectivity as the surface upon which enemies of the press wield their war against the truth. “Every time you are shown not to be behaving objectively, you are kind of in violation of your code, and you
can be brought down because you’re not perfectly objective,” Rosen said. “And that’s a big attack surface, which the right wing has used very effectively to generate distrust in the news media.”
As the right-wing
war on the press has intensified, many journalists and scholars have continued to reevaluate the purpose and utility of objectivity in the newsroom."
Your implication that since bias is unavoidable, all media are as bad as
Fox is the indefensible one.
On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 8:40:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 4/17/23 9:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:00:24 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:I do try to keep up with their court activities.
On 4/16/23 5:38 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 10:44:33 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Fox said they're "Fair and balanced."
On 4/15/23 11:56 AM, ScottW wrote:They claim they're neither.
On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 9:51:20 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 4/15/23 11:25 AM, ScottW wrote:Remember trying to correct me when I said NewsNation was conservative? >>>>>
Isn't the dem ass kisser he was on CNN. Why?Indeed. Even CNN is after the Fox audience these days. Also changing to
So why is Cuomo radically different in this new gig than he was on >>>>>>>>> CNN? Simple, NewsNation is after Fox audience.
get the Fox audience? Fox.
And now you're agreeing with me? WTH. That's almost disturbing. They all have the same motive.
Are you listening to Fox now?
I assume you've made up some strawman and calling it my test. Maybe it'sIf anything, you're agreeing with me.
Nah, I'm just slowly peeling away all the layers of media and exposing them one by one
until there are none left that pass your test.
My test?
Are you backtracking on that too already? It was indefensible so I can understand if you are.
related to this:
https://www.cjr.org/analysis/objectivity-wars-event-media-trust.php
"In an interview last fall, journalism scholar Jay Rosen referred to
journalistic objectivity as the surface upon which enemies of the press
wield their war against the truth. “Every time you are shown not to be
behaving objectively, you are kind of in violation of your code, and you
can be brought down because you’re not perfectly objective,” Rosen said. >> “And that’s a big attack surface, which the right wing has used very
effectively to generate distrust in the news media.”
LoL....a journo scholar to the defense.
They're the most corrupt of all in business.
As the right-wing
war on the press has intensified, many journalists and scholars have
continued to reevaluate the purpose and utility of objectivity in the
newsroom."
Your implication that since bias is unavoidable, all media are as bad as
Fox is the indefensible one.
We've given you tons of examples to the contrary.
But you refuse to accept the truth.
Your bias is beyond dispute at this point.
On 4/18/23 5:22 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 8:40:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 4/17/23 9:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:00:24 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:I do try to keep up with their court activities.
On 4/16/23 5:38 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 10:44:33 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 4/15/23 11:56 AM, ScottW wrote:Fox said they're "Fair and balanced."
On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 9:51:20 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 4/15/23 11:25 AM, ScottW wrote:Remember trying to correct me when I said NewsNation was conservative?
Isn't the dem ass kisser he was on CNN. Why?Indeed. Even CNN is after the Fox audience these days. Also changing to
So why is Cuomo radically different in this new gig than he was on >>>>>>>>> CNN? Simple, NewsNation is after Fox audience.
get the Fox audience? Fox.
And now you're agreeing with me? WTH. That's almost disturbing. They all have the same motive.
They claim they're neither.
Are you listening to Fox now?
I assume you've made up some strawman and calling it my test. Maybe it's >> related to this:If anything, you're agreeing with me.
Nah, I'm just slowly peeling away all the layers of media and exposing them one by one
until there are none left that pass your test.
My test?
Are you backtracking on that too already? It was indefensible so I can understand if you are.
https://www.cjr.org/analysis/objectivity-wars-event-media-trust.php
"In an interview last fall, journalism scholar Jay Rosen referred to
journalistic objectivity as the surface upon which enemies of the press >> wield their war against the truth. “Every time you are shown not to be >> behaving objectively, you are kind of in violation of your code, and you >> can be brought down because you’re not perfectly objective,” Rosen said.
“And that’s a big attack surface, which the right wing has used very >> effectively to generate distrust in the news media.”
LoL....a journo scholar to the defense.If you think he's a big defender of mainstream journalism, you may have
They're the most corrupt of all in business.
a reading comprehension problem.
On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 7:22:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 4/18/23 5:22 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 8:40:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:If you think he's a big defender of mainstream journalism, you may have
On 4/17/23 9:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:00:24 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:I do try to keep up with their court activities.
On 4/16/23 5:38 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 10:44:33 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 4/15/23 11:56 AM, ScottW wrote:Fox said they're "Fair and balanced."
They claim they're neither.On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 9:51:20 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/23 11:25 AM, ScottW wrote:Remember trying to correct me when I said NewsNation was conservative? >>>>>>>
Isn't the dem ass kisser he was on CNN. Why?Indeed. Even CNN is after the Fox audience these days. Also changing to
So why is Cuomo radically different in this new gig than he was on >>>>>>>>>>> CNN? Simple, NewsNation is after Fox audience.
get the Fox audience? Fox.
And now you're agreeing with me? WTH. That's almost disturbing. They all have the same motive.
Are you listening to Fox now?
I assume you've made up some strawman and calling it my test. Maybe it's >>>> related to this:If anything, you're agreeing with me.
Nah, I'm just slowly peeling away all the layers of media and exposing them one by one
until there are none left that pass your test.
My test?
Are you backtracking on that too already? It was indefensible so I can understand if you are.
https://www.cjr.org/analysis/objectivity-wars-event-media-trust.php
"In an interview last fall, journalism scholar Jay Rosen referred to
journalistic objectivity as the surface upon which enemies of the press >>>> wield their war against the truth. “Every time you are shown not to be >>>> behaving objectively, you are kind of in violation of your code, and you >>>> can be brought down because you’re not perfectly objective,” Rosen said.
“And that’s a big attack surface, which the right wing has used very >>>> effectively to generate distrust in the news media.”
LoL....a journo scholar to the defense.
They're the most corrupt of all in business.
a reading comprehension problem.
I have a problem with his (and your) belief in "journalistic objectivity".
It never really existed.
Even new and improved Cuomo slipped and revealed his true colors.
While criticizing the dem party for losing support among middle class workers, "the party of his father" as he claimed, he goes on to claim
that republican gains are all due to "theater". It's all their lying that has eroded dem support.
No mention of rising employment under Trump.
No mention of middle class tax cuts under multiple R admins.
No mention of rising income levels under Trump.
No mention of supporting parents rights.
Then in a later segment he brings on Yang and applauds rise of independence in polls.
That's the state of journalistic objectivity.
They're all partisans and have chosen party sides for the most part.
Listen to them through that lens and you can see the truth.
Don't and you'll fall victim to their BS.
On 4/19/23 12:35 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 7:22:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 4/18/23 5:22 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 8:40:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:If you think he's a big defender of mainstream journalism, you may have >> a reading comprehension problem.
On 4/17/23 9:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:00:24 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:I do try to keep up with their court activities.
On 4/16/23 5:38 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 10:44:33 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 4/15/23 11:56 AM, ScottW wrote:Fox said they're "Fair and balanced."
On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 9:51:20 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/23 11:25 AM, ScottW wrote:Remember trying to correct me when I said NewsNation was conservative?
Isn't the dem ass kisser he was on CNN. Why?Indeed. Even CNN is after the Fox audience these days. Also changing to
So why is Cuomo radically different in this new gig than he was on
CNN? Simple, NewsNation is after Fox audience.
get the Fox audience? Fox.
And now you're agreeing with me? WTH. That's almost disturbing. They all have the same motive.
They claim they're neither.
Are you listening to Fox now?
I assume you've made up some strawman and calling it my test. Maybe it'sIf anything, you're agreeing with me.
Nah, I'm just slowly peeling away all the layers of media and exposing them one by one
until there are none left that pass your test.
My test?
Are you backtracking on that too already? It was indefensible so I can understand if you are.
related to this:
https://www.cjr.org/analysis/objectivity-wars-event-media-trust.php >>>>
"In an interview last fall, journalism scholar Jay Rosen referred to >>>> journalistic objectivity as the surface upon which enemies of the press >>>> wield their war against the truth. “Every time you are shown not to be
behaving objectively, you are kind of in violation of your code, and you
can be brought down because you’re not perfectly objective,” Rosen said.
“And that’s a big attack surface, which the right wing has used very
effectively to generate distrust in the news media.”
LoL....a journo scholar to the defense.
They're the most corrupt of all in business.
I have a problem with his (and your) belief in "journalistic objectivity". It never really existed.Educate yourself.
https://time.com/5443351/journalism-objectivity-history/
https://ethics.journalism.wisc.edu/2011/04/20/the-fall-and-rise-of-partisan-journalism/
https://open.lib.umn.edu/mediaandculture/chapter/4-3-different-styles-and-models-of-journalism/
Even new and improved Cuomo slipped and revealed his true colors.I already don't listen to Cuomo who is pretty much without influence and
While criticizing the dem party for losing support among middle class workers, "the party of his father" as he claimed, he goes on to claim
that republican gains are all due to "theater". It's all their lying that has eroded dem support.
No mention of rising employment under Trump.
No mention of middle class tax cuts under multiple R admins.
No mention of rising income levels under Trump.
No mention of supporting parents rights.
Then in a later segment he brings on Yang and applauds rise of independence in polls.
That's the state of journalistic objectivity.
They're all partisans and have chosen party sides for the most part. Listen to them through that lens and you can see the truth.
Don't and you'll fall victim to their BS.
was never an example of an objective journalist.
What a strange list. Is that off the top of your head or are you paraphrasing someone you heard?
On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:38:38 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 4/19/23 12:35 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 7:22:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Educate yourself.
On 4/18/23 5:22 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 8:40:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:If you think he's a big defender of mainstream journalism, you may have >>>> a reading comprehension problem.
On 4/17/23 9:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:00:24 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 4/16/23 5:38 PM, ScottW wrote:I do try to keep up with their court activities.
On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 10:44:33 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/23 11:56 AM, ScottW wrote:Fox said they're "Fair and balanced."
On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 9:51:20 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/23 11:25 AM, ScottW wrote:Remember trying to correct me when I said NewsNation was conservative?
Isn't the dem ass kisser he was on CNN. Why?Indeed. Even CNN is after the Fox audience these days. Also changing to
So why is Cuomo radically different in this new gig than he was on
CNN? Simple, NewsNation is after Fox audience.
get the Fox audience? Fox.
And now you're agreeing with me? WTH. That's almost disturbing. They all have the same motive.
They claim they're neither.
Are you listening to Fox now?
I assume you've made up some strawman and calling it my test. Maybe it's >>>>>> related to this:If anything, you're agreeing with me.
Nah, I'm just slowly peeling away all the layers of media and exposing them one by one
until there are none left that pass your test.
My test?
Are you backtracking on that too already? It was indefensible so I can understand if you are.
https://www.cjr.org/analysis/objectivity-wars-event-media-trust.php >>>>>>
"In an interview last fall, journalism scholar Jay Rosen referred to >>>>>> journalistic objectivity as the surface upon which enemies of the press >>>>>> wield their war against the truth. “Every time you are shown not to be >>>>>> behaving objectively, you are kind of in violation of your code, and you >>>>>> can be brought down because you’re not perfectly objective,” Rosen said.
“And that’s a big attack surface, which the right wing has used very >>>>>> effectively to generate distrust in the news media.”
LoL....a journo scholar to the defense.
They're the most corrupt of all in business.
I have a problem with his (and your) belief in "journalistic objectivity". >>> It never really existed.
https://time.com/5443351/journalism-objectivity-history/
https://ethics.journalism.wisc.edu/2011/04/20/the-fall-and-rise-of-partisan-journalism/
https://open.lib.umn.edu/mediaandculture/chapter/4-3-different-styles-and-models-of-journalism/
Even new and improved Cuomo slipped and revealed his true colors.I already don't listen to Cuomo who is pretty much without influence and
While criticizing the dem party for losing support among middle class
workers, "the party of his father" as he claimed, he goes on to claim
that republican gains are all due to "theater". It's all their lying that has eroded dem support.
No mention of rising employment under Trump.
No mention of middle class tax cuts under multiple R admins.
No mention of rising income levels under Trump.
No mention of supporting parents rights.
Then in a later segment he brings on Yang and applauds rise of independence in polls.
That's the state of journalistic objectivity.
They're all partisans and have chosen party sides for the most part.
Listen to them through that lens and you can see the truth.
Don't and you'll fall victim to their BS.
was never an example of an objective journalist.
Does that make him an "enemy of the press"? Hmmm, it's an inside job.
What a strange list. Is that off the top of your head or are you
paraphrasing someone you heard?
Top of my head...and nothing strange about it unless as a dem you're
not used to meaningful change.
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