• The Trial of Seditious Conspiracy

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 14 19:40:20 2023
    Has some interesting testimony for the defense.

    For example, attorney Nick Smith, who’s representing [Ethan] Nordean, showed jurors a screenshot of messages from one of the informants. “PBs did not do it or inspire,” the informant wrote. “Crowds did, herd mentality. Not organized.”

    That's an FBI informant.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Jan 15 12:15:07 2023
    On 1/14/23 9:40 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Has some interesting testimony for the defense.

    For example, attorney Nick Smith, who’s representing [Ethan] Nordean, showed jurors a screenshot of messages from one of the informants. “PBs did not do it or inspire,” the informant wrote. “Crowds did, herd mentality. Not organized.”

    That's an FBI informant.

    So? They set themselves up in strategic locations and shepherded the
    normies past barricades and into the Capitol. Just because the sheep
    weren't organized doesn't mean the PB aren't involved.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 15 11:02:25 2023
    On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 10:15:09 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/14/23 9:40 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Has some interesting testimony for the defense.

    For example, attorney Nick Smith, who’s representing [Ethan] Nordean, showed jurors a screenshot of messages from one of the informants. “PBs did not do it or inspire,” the informant wrote. “Crowds did, herd mentality. Not organized.”

    That's an FBI informant.
    So? They set themselves up in strategic locations and shepherded the
    normies past barricades and into the Capitol. Just because the sheep
    weren't organized doesn't mean the PB aren't involved.

    Is your biased opinion testimony going to outweigh that of an FBI informant who was there?

    Didn't think so.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Jan 15 16:20:37 2023
    On 1/15/23 1:02 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 10:15:09 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/14/23 9:40 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Has some interesting testimony for the defense.

    For example, attorney Nick Smith, who’s representing [Ethan] Nordean, showed jurors a screenshot of messages from one of the informants. “PBs did not do it or inspire,” the informant wrote. “Crowds did, herd mentality. Not organized.”

    That's an FBI informant.
    So? They set themselves up in strategic locations and shepherded the
    normies past barricades and into the Capitol. Just because the sheep
    weren't organized doesn't mean the PB aren't involved.

    Is your biased opinion testimony going to outweigh that of an FBI informant who was there?

    My informed opinion vs his self-serving opinion? Let's see what you think:

    Didn't think so.

    What was your opinion of the trustworthiness of FBI informants before
    they started saying stuff you like? You remember Michigan, yes?

    https://redstate.com/brutalbrittany/2023/01/14/fbi-informants-and-rock-band-member-to-testify-for-defense-in-proud-boys-seditious-conspiracy-trial-n688690

    What about rock band members? But seriously, Nordean's been on the radar
    for over a year now. One comment:

    "The government has never accused the Proud Boy conspirators of planning
    to use violence themselves, though there is evidence they knew their
    incitement could spark violence among “normies.” There’s even evidence that Ethan Nordean tried to rein in one attack (though only after he had presumably witnessed other assaults on cops).

    That is, that claim is utterly irrelevant to the government’s conspiracy cases against the Proud Boys."

    And the informant:

    [NYT] The records show that, after driving to Washington and checking
    into an Airbnb in Virginia on Jan. 5, the informant spent most of Jan. 6
    with other Proud Boys, including some who have been charged in the
    attack. While the informant mentioned seeing Proud Boys leaders that
    day, like Ethan Nordean, who has also been charged, there is no
    indication that he was directly involved with any Proud Boys in
    leadership positions.

    In a detailed account of his activities contained in the records, the informant, who was part of a group chat of other Proud Boys, described
    meeting up with scores of men from chapters around the country at 10
    a.m. on Jan. 6 at the Washington Monument and eventually marching to the Capitol. He said that when he arrived, throngs of people were already
    streaming past the first barrier outside the building, which, he later
    learned, was taken down by one of his Proud Boy acquaintances and a
    young woman with him.

    End quote.

    Yes, it is interesting testimony for the defense.

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