but couldn't care less about our own DoD tweeting away around the world.

https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1605292454261182464?s=20&t=puYQCVNah5m_JZlInS0gyw

ScottW

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On 12/20/22 7:50 PM, ScottW wrote:

but couldn't care less about our own DoD tweeting away around the world.

What about that? Wasn't that happening during Trump's presidency?

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On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:30:13 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/20/22 7:50 PM, ScottW wrote:

but couldn't care less about our own DoD tweeting away around the world.

What about that? Wasn't that happening during Trump's presidency?

I'm sure they've been butting in for centuries. Kind of makes your crying about
Russian facebook bs more than a little hypocritical.

If you want an open society with rights of free speech....you're gonna have learn
to live with it. But I don't think you really want that...you want a dem central committee running
everything.

ScottW

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On 12/21/22 10:53 AM, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:30:13 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/20/22 7:50 PM, ScottW wrote:

but couldn't care less about our own DoD tweeting away around the world.

What about that? Wasn't that happening during Trump's presidency?

I'm sure they've been butting in for centuries. Kind of makes your crying about
Russian facebook bs more than a little hypocritical.

There's a useless accusation. When did you start following tankies?
You've been hinting around that for a while now.

If you want an open society with rights of free speech....you're gonna have learn
to live with it. But I don't think you really want that...you want a dem central committee running
everything.

I'll settle for twitter following its own rules.

I see why you want to take "hypocrisy" off the table.

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On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 12:28:28 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/21/22 10:53 AM, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:30:13 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/20/22 7:50 PM, ScottW wrote:

but couldn't care less about our own DoD tweeting away around the world. >> What about that? Wasn't that happening during Trump's presidency?

I'm sure they've been butting in for centuries. Kind of makes your crying about
Russian facebook bs more than a little hypocritical.

There's a useless accusation. When did you start following tankies?
You've been hinting around that for a while now.

Who needs to hint? They freaking brag about it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/06/26/russian-election-interference-meddling/

or how about this tangled mess.

Clinton get Yeltsin reelected in '96 in what turns out to be a rigged election run by Putin that leads to Putin's reign.

https://journals.uair.arizona.edu/index.php/UAHISTJRNL/article/view/23567/22426

and then look into what the Russian admit about that '96 election and Putin's role
and the deals he had with Medvedev.
(Oddly reminiscent of Obama's back door deal with Hillary....a cabinet position in exchange
for her support and the heir apparent in 2016).

ScottW

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On 12/21/22 8:49 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 12:28:28 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/21/22 10:53 AM, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:30:13 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/20/22 7:50 PM, ScottW wrote:

but couldn't care less about our own DoD tweeting away around the world. >>>> What about that? Wasn't that happening during Trump's presidency?

I'm sure they've been butting in for centuries. Kind of makes your crying about
Russian facebook bs more than a little hypocritical.

There's a useless accusation. When did you start following tankies?
You've been hinting around that for a while now.

Who needs to hint? They freaking brag about it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/06/26/russian-election-interference-meddling/

No, I'm talking about your relatively new-found tankie anti-Americanism
that goes hand in hand with whataboutism.

or how about this tangled mess.

So what? President Clinton supported the Russian whose leadership "could guarantee Russian cooperation on U.S. priorities."

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2018-10-02/clinton-yeltsin-relationship-their-own-words

"To ensure that Yeltsin survived, Clinton was willing to close his eyes
to electoral irregularities, the rise of the oligarchs, the war in
Chechnya, and the rising corruption in the new Russia. The
administration’s policy essentially supported Russia’s economic liberalization as it developed into a form of robber-baron capitalism,
or “market Bolshevism,” rather than developing into genuine democratic institutions and practices.[6] Put bluntly, Russian stability and the implementation of the flawed market reform turned out to be more
important in practical terms than the healthy development of Russian
democracy. Tellingly, when Yeltsin reveals to Clinton in the fall of
1999 that he has chosen a successor – former KGB officer Vladimir Putin
– and will do everything possible to get Putin elected as the next
president of Russia, Clinton seemingly accepts Yeltsin’s choice as
another one of the measures needed to guarantee Russian stability."

So, go ahead and blame Clinton for Putin, then thank him for Trump.

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On 12/22/22 11:20 AM, ScottW wrote:

a chain of historical events set up by one of your party heroes?

Fortunately, free will and agency are still in effect and motivations
still count: Clinton intended stability and safety; Putin intended chaos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc

Post hoc ergo propter hoc (Latin: 'after this, therefore because of
this') is an informal fallacy that states: "Since event Y followed event
X, event Y must have been caused by event X." It is often shortened
simply to post hoc fallacy... Post hoc is a logical fallacy in which one
event seems to be the cause of a later event because it occurred
earlier. [1]

Post hoc is a particularly tempting error because correlation sometimes
appears to suggest causality.

End quote.

Just to be clear, the chain I pointed out was for you, not a statement
of my belief.

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On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 7:56:14 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/21/22 8:49 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 12:28:28 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/21/22 10:53 AM, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:30:13 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/20/22 7:50 PM, ScottW wrote:

but couldn't care less about our own DoD tweeting away around the world.

What about that? Wasn't that happening during Trump's presidency?

I'm sure they've been butting in for centuries. Kind of makes your crying about
Russian facebook bs more than a little hypocritical.

There's a useless accusation. When did you start following tankies?
You've been hinting around that for a while now.

Who needs to hint? They freaking brag about it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/06/26/russian-election-interference-meddling/

No, I'm talking about your relatively new-found tankie anti-Americanism
that goes hand in hand with whataboutism.

or how about this tangled mess.

So what? President Clinton supported the Russian whose leadership "could guarantee Russian cooperation on U.S. priorities."

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2018-10-02/clinton-yeltsin-relationship-their-own-words

"To ensure that Yeltsin survived, Clinton was willing to close his eyes
to electoral irregularities, the rise of the oligarchs, the war in
Chechnya, and the rising corruption in the new Russia. The administration’s policy essentially supported Russia’s economic liberalization as it developed into a form of robber-baron capitalism,
or “market Bolshevism,” rather than developing into genuine democratic institutions and practices.[6] Put bluntly, Russian stability and the implementation of the flawed market reform turned out to be more
important in practical terms than the healthy development of Russian democracy. Tellingly, when Yeltsin reveals to Clinton in the fall of
1999 that he has chosen a successor – former KGB officer Vladimir Putin – and will do everything possible to get Putin elected as the next president of Russia, Clinton seemingly accepts Yeltsin’s choice as
another one of the measures needed to guarantee Russian stability."

So, go ahead and blame Clinton for Putin, then thank him for Trump.

What's it like to be headfucked by a chain of historical events set up by
one of your party heroes?

Gotta suck.

ScottW

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On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:10:34 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/22/22 11:20 AM, ScottW wrote:

a chain of historical events set up by one of your party heroes?

Fortunately, free will and agency are still in effect and motivations
still count: Clinton intended stability and safety; Putin intended chaos.

As if you have any clue what Putin's intentions were.
After Hillary's pushing the war on Serbia and the deposing of Gaddafi
it's easy to see why they might consider her less stable and safe.

Anyway intentions are no defense when the shit hits the fan.
And the Clintons shit has sprayed the world over.

ScottW

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On 12/23/22 6:37 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:10:34 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/22/22 11:20 AM, ScottW wrote:

a chain of historical events set up by one of your party heroes?

Fortunately, free will and agency are still in effect and motivations
still count: Clinton intended stability and safety; Putin intended chaos.

As if you have any clue what Putin's intentions were.

You'll recall the DNI "report Foreign Threats to the 2020 US Federal Elections":

Key Judgment 2: We assess that Russian President Putin authorized, and a
range of Russian government organizations conducted, influence
operations aimed at denigrating President Biden’s candidacy and the Democratic Party, supporting former President Trump, undermining public confidence in the electoral process, and exacerbating sociopolitical
divisions in the US. Unlike in 2016, we did not see persistent Russian
cyber efforts to gain access to election infrastructure. We have high confidence in our assessment; Russian state and proxy actors who all
serve the Kremlin’s interests worked to affect US public perceptions in
a consistent manner. A key element of Moscow’s strategy this election
cycle was its use of proxies linked to Russian intelligence to push
influence narratives—including misleading or unsubstantiated allegations against President Biden—to US media organizations, US officials, and prominent US individuals, including some close to former President Trump
and his administration.

Putin's intentions aren't completely unknowable as they're shown by his actions.

After Hillary's pushing the war on Serbia and the deposing of Gaddafi
it's easy to see why they might consider her less stable and safe.

"War on Serbia"? Quite the framing there. Seems like you're okay with
nations attacking their neighbors for ethnic cleansing. And Gaddafi:

https://www.npr.org/2011/03/04/134228864/for-reagan-gadhafi-was-a-frustrating-mad-dog

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