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  • Re: Twitter dump part 2...the blacklists

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to ScottW on Thu Dec 8 19:37:01 2022
    On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 7:33:59 PM UTC-8, ScottW wrote:
    https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601008766861815808

    1. A new #TwitterFiles investigation reveals that teams of Twitter employees build blacklists, prevent disfavored tweets from trending, and actively limit the visibility of entire accounts or even trending topics—all in secret, without informing
    users.

    I'm shocked....shocked I say.

    ScottW


    This is great quote from the former liars in charge of twitter

    : “We do not shadow ban.” They added: “And we certainly don’t shadow ban based on political viewpoints or ideology.”

    LoL....

    ScottW

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 8 19:33:58 2022
    https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601008766861815808

    1. A new #TwitterFiles investigation reveals that teams of Twitter employees build blacklists, prevent disfavored tweets from trending, and actively limit the visibility of entire accounts or even trending topics—all in secret, without informing users.

    I'm shocked....shocked I say.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to ScottW on Thu Dec 8 23:16:35 2022
    On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 10:33:59 PM UTC-5, ScottW wrote:
    https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601008766861815808

    1. A new #TwitterFiles investigation reveals that teams of Twitter employees build blacklists, prevent disfavored tweets from trending, and actively limit the visibility of entire accounts or even trending topics—all in secret, without informing
    users.

    I'm shocked....shocked I say.

    ScottW

    Leftwing version of McCarthyism

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Dec 9 09:43:35 2022
    On 12/8/22 9:33 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601008766861815808

    1. A new #TwitterFiles investigation reveals that teams of Twitter employees build blacklists, prevent disfavored tweets from trending, and actively limit the visibility of entire accounts or even trending topics—all in secret, without informing
    users.

    I'm shocked....shocked I say.

    Coincidentally, that's what Musk is proposing as his new content
    moderation policy.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 9 14:38:48 2022
    On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:43:37 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 9:33 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601008766861815808

    1. A new #TwitterFiles investigation reveals that teams of Twitter employees build blacklists, prevent disfavored tweets from trending, and actively limit the visibility of entire accounts or even trending topics—all in secret, without informing
    users.

    I'm shocked....shocked I say.
    Coincidentally, that's what Musk is proposing as his new content
    moderation policy.

    Disinformation.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Dec 9 16:54:06 2022
    On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 5:38:50 PM UTC-5, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:43:37 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 9:33 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601008766861815808

    1. A new #TwitterFiles investigation reveals that teams of Twitter employees build blacklists, prevent disfavored tweets from trending, and actively limit the visibility of entire accounts or even trending topics—all in secret, without informing
    users.

    I'm shocked....shocked I say.
    Coincidentally, that's what Musk is proposing as his new content moderation policy.
    Disinformation.

    ScottW

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to hootervil...@yahoo.com on Fri Dec 9 16:57:52 2022
    On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 4:54:40 PM UTC-8, hootervil...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 5:38:50 PM UTC-5, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:43:37 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 9:33 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601008766861815808

    1. A new #TwitterFiles investigation reveals that teams of Twitter employees build blacklists, prevent disfavored tweets from trending, and actively limit the visibility of entire accounts or even trending topics—all in secret, without
    informing users.

    I'm shocked....shocked I say.
    Coincidentally, that's what Musk is proposing as his new content moderation policy.
    Disinformation.

    ScottW
    Let's just call Steve a liar.

    I'm being gracious around Christmas....I want Santa to think I'm nice.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Dec 10 09:20:46 2022
    On 12/9/22 4:38 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:43:37 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 9:33 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601008766861815808

    1. A new #TwitterFiles investigation reveals that teams of Twitter employees build blacklists, prevent disfavored tweets from trending, and actively limit the visibility of entire accounts or even trending topics—all in secret, without informing
    users.

    I'm shocked....shocked I say.
    Coincidentally, that's what Musk is proposing as his new content
    moderation policy.

    Disinformation.

    You need to read more Fox News:

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/elon-musks-new-twitter-policy-suppressing-hate-tweets-sparks-confusion-comparisons-shadowbanning

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 10 16:42:18 2022
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 7:20:51 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/9/22 4:38 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:43:37 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 9:33 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601008766861815808

    1. A new #TwitterFiles investigation reveals that teams of Twitter employees build blacklists, prevent disfavored tweets from trending, and actively limit the visibility of entire accounts or even trending topics—all in secret, without informing
    users.

    I'm shocked....shocked I say.
    Coincidentally, that's what Musk is proposing as his new content
    moderation policy.

    Disinformation.
    You need to read more Fox News:

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/elon-musks-new-twitter-policy-suppressing-hate-tweets-sparks-confusion-comparisons-shadowbanning

    Funny how Stephen is confused by the difference between shadow banning hate speech and shadow banning
    political or ideological based speech.
    But hey...the left is so sensitive anything that disturbs is often called hate speech.
    I don't think Elon is going to fall prey to that nonsense.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Dec 10 21:08:40 2022
    On 12/10/22 6:42 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 7:20:51 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/9/22 4:38 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:43:37 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 9:33 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601008766861815808

    1. A new #TwitterFiles investigation reveals that teams of Twitter employees build blacklists, prevent disfavored tweets from trending, and actively limit the visibility of entire accounts or even trending topics—all in secret, without informing
    users.

    I'm shocked....shocked I say.
    Coincidentally, that's what Musk is proposing as his new content
    moderation policy.

    Disinformation.
    You need to read more Fox News:

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/elon-musks-new-twitter-policy-suppressing-hate-tweets-sparks-confusion-comparisons-shadowbanning

    Funny how Stephen is confused by the difference between shadow banning hate speech and shadow banning
    political or ideological based speech.

    Me and Fox News. He's using the same tools.

    But hey...the left is so sensitive anything that disturbs is often called hate speech.
    I don't think Elon is going to fall prey to that nonsense.

    Elon is definitely not going to combat hate speech.

    https://www.montclair.edu/school-of-communication-and-media/2022/10/29/study-finds-hate-speech-increases-on-twitter-after-elon-musk-acquisition/

    Hed: Study Finds Hate Speech Increases on Twitter After Elon Musk
    Acquisition

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 10 19:34:36 2022
    MINe109 wrote:

    I don't think Elon is going to fall prey to that nonsense.
    Elon is definitely not going to combat hate speech.

    Not in the real world, definitely. But soft... Did scottw
    actually use the correct spelling of "prey"? It's almost
    as if his prayers to "God" were answered.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Sat Dec 10 21:28:15 2022
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 10:34:37 PM UTC-5, Fascist Flea wrote:
    MINe109 wrote:

    I don't think Elon is going to fall prey to that nonsense.
    Elon is definitely not going to combat hate speech.

    Not in the real world, definitely. But soft... Did scottw
    actually use the correct spelling of "prey"? It's almost
    as if his prayers to "God" were answered.

    excuse me if I pry, but I pray for your prey

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 10 22:26:08 2022
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 7:08:43 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/10/22 6:42 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 7:20:51 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/9/22 4:38 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:43:37 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 9:33 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601008766861815808

    1. A new #TwitterFiles investigation reveals that teams of Twitter employees build blacklists, prevent disfavored tweets from trending, and actively limit the visibility of entire accounts or even trending topics—all in secret, without
    informing users.

    I'm shocked....shocked I say.
    Coincidentally, that's what Musk is proposing as his new content
    moderation policy.

    Disinformation.
    You need to read more Fox News:

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/elon-musks-new-twitter-policy-suppressing-hate-tweets-sparks-confusion-comparisons-shadowbanning

    Funny how Stephen is confused by the difference between shadow banning hate speech and shadow banning
    political or ideological based speech.
    Me and Fox News. He's using the same tools.
    But hey...the left is so sensitive anything that disturbs is often called hate speech.
    I don't think Elon is going to fall prey to that nonsense.
    Elon is definitely not going to combat hate speech.

    https://www.montclair.edu/school-of-communication-and-media/2022/10/29/study-finds-hate-speech-increases-on-twitter-after-elon-musk-acquisition/

    Hed: Study Finds Hate Speech Increases on Twitter After Elon Musk Acquisition

    While actual twitter users say just the opposite. Then again...I'll bet they don't see hate speech in every tweet as the grand masters of free speech at Montclair do.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Dec 11 19:57:40 2022
    On 12/11/22 12:26 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 7:08:43 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/10/22 6:42 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 7:20:51 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/9/22 4:38 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:43:37 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 9:33 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601008766861815808

    1. A new #TwitterFiles investigation reveals that teams of Twitter employees build blacklists, prevent disfavored tweets from trending, and actively limit the visibility of entire accounts or even trending topics—all in secret, without
    informing users.

    I'm shocked....shocked I say.
    Coincidentally, that's what Musk is proposing as his new content
    moderation policy.

    Disinformation.
    You need to read more Fox News:

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/elon-musks-new-twitter-policy-suppressing-hate-tweets-sparks-confusion-comparisons-shadowbanning

    Funny how Stephen is confused by the difference between shadow banning hate speech and shadow banning
    political or ideological based speech.
    Me and Fox News. He's using the same tools.
    But hey...the left is so sensitive anything that disturbs is often called hate speech.
    I don't think Elon is going to fall prey to that nonsense.
    Elon is definitely not going to combat hate speech.

    https://www.montclair.edu/school-of-communication-and-media/2022/10/29/study-finds-hate-speech-increases-on-twitter-after-elon-musk-acquisition/

    Hed: Study Finds Hate Speech Increases on Twitter After Elon Musk
    Acquisition

    While actual twitter users say just the opposite.

    That's why actual scholarship is necessary, to avoid drawing conclusions
    from cherry-picking examples.

    Then again...I'll bet they don't see hate speech in every tweet as the grand masters of free speech at Montclair do.ScottW

    Yes, we can agree your "users" missed hate speech the scholars found.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 11 19:56:44 2022


    Yes, we can agree your "users" missed hate speech the scholars found.

    Here is the latest gobbledygook from our most erudite scholars:

    https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-roots-of-gender-bias%3A-misogynist-hadiths-in-Marhumah/a40ff9069659a64ca7678fa1faa6f8663ebbe8b6


    and i quote verbatim


    "Women are regarded as “the second class” by some people in pesantrens. This knowledge has rooted in hadiths cited in the books studied and implemented in many pesantrens. To counteract this tendency, it is therefore important to use a
    feminist approach to review and criticize the books which can also be used to understand and solve the problems of mis-interpretation of religious texts. The misogynist hadiths have been widely circulated and taught in pesantren under the
    authority of Kyai (male religious clerics) and nyai (female religious cleric) who have the authority to decide which hadiths are allowed to be taught and socialized in religious teachings and sermons. This is because many teachers
    emphasize the importance of preserving tradition and religious norms disegarding gender bias. Some feminist activists have tried to reform the mindsets of pesantren leaders both male and female by changing the authoritarian model of leadership to a
    democractic one. To do this, new historical, sociological and anthropological approaches are required to re-interpret and contextualize misogynist hadiths. Perempuan dianggap sebagai warga “kelas dua” dalam beberapa kitab yang diajarkan
    di pesantren. Pengetahuan ini memiliki akar yang kuat dalam hadith- hadith yang dikutip dalam buku-buku yang diajarkan di pesantren. Untuk melawan arus kecenderungan ini, penting untuk menggunakan pendekatan feminis dengan meninjau
    kembali dan mengkritik kitab-kitab tersebut. Pendekatan ini dapat digunakan sebagai cara untuk memahami dan menyelesai- kan masalah kesalahan tafsir pada teks teks keagamaan. Hadith-hadits misoginis (membenci perempuan) diajarkan secara luas di
    pesantren di bawah wewenang Pak Kyai atau Ibu Nyai yang menentukan kitab-kitab mana yang boleh dan dilarang di pesantren. Para guru tersebut lebih mementingkan menjaga tradisi dan norma-norma agama yang seringkali bias jender. Beberapa aktivis
    feminis telah mencoba mereformasi pola pikir para pengasuh pesantren baik laki maupun perempuan dari kepemimpinan yang otoriter ke kepemimpinan yang demokratis. Untuk itu, pendekatan-pendekatan historis, sosiologis dan antropologis yang
    baru diperlukan guna
    memahami ulang hadith-hadith misoginis tersebut. "

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