PCM is "good ol' basic" 2 channel stereo.
Same as on audio CDs.
Which is fine for any of the old matrix Dolby
surround settings(Surround, Surround-Pro-
Logic, or Pro-Logic-II). Yes, it is lossless,
but you have to select one of the lossy
codecs(X.1) in order to employ that discrete
mode of surround.
PCM is "good ol' basic" 2 channel stereo.
Same as on audio CDs.
Which is fine for any of the old matrix Dolby
surround settings(Surround, Surround-Pro-
Logic, or Pro-Logic-II). Yes, it is lossless,
but you have to select one of the lossy
codecs(X.1) in order to employ that discrete
mode of surround.
thekma@gmail.com;991879 Wrote:
PCM is "good ol' basic" 2 channel stereo.
Same as on audio CDs.
Which is fine for any of the old matrix Dolby
surround settings(Surround, Surround-Pro-
Logic, or Pro-Logic-II). Yes, it is lossless,
but you have to select one of the lossy
codecs(X.1) in order to employ that discrete
mode of surround.
Got it. Thanks so much!
My Audio setup: Blu Ray player to 5.1 Yamaha Receiver via digital coax.
I realize that PC M is an uncompressed format that should sound better
than DTS or Dolby Digital. However, while watching a Blu Ray last night, something didn’t sound quite right with the surround sound. Movie
dialogue was alternating between the center channel and L/R speakers,
and the SL and SR didn’t seem to be working correctly.
Upon troubleshooting, the blu ray PLAYER audio output format was PCM,
but my receiver only detected/sent it in stereo (only the L and R
speakers were lit on the display). When I changed the output mode of the
blu ray PLAYER to DTS, the receiver detected/sent proper 5.1. When I
went to the audio settings on the actual blu ray DISC, the
primary/standard option (the only option in English and without
subtitles) was 6.1 DTS.
I ended up keeping the blu ray PLAYER output format on DTS to match, and
the surround worked.
I thought PCM was the new standard. If a DISC only outputs in DTS, is
this correct? How do I get PCM surround? Is this only available using
an HDMI cable?
My Audio setup: Blu Ray player to 5.1 Yamaha Receiver via digital coax.
I realize that PC M is an uncompressed format that should sound better
than DTS or Dolby Digital. However, while watching a Blu Ray last night, something didn't sound quite right with the surround sound. Movie
dialogue was alternating between the center channel and L/R speakers,
and the SL and SR didn't seem to be working correctly.
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:26:00 +0000, bkluk7
<bkluk7.10be50a8@audiobanter.com> wrote:
My Audio setup: Blu Ray player to 5.1 Yamaha Receiver via digital coax.
I realize that PC M is an uncompressed format that should sound better
than DTS or Dolby Digital. However, while watching a Blu Ray last night, something didn't sound quite right with the surround sound. Movie
dialogue was alternating between the center channel and L/R speakers,
and the SL and SR didn't seem to be working correctly.
Choose Stereo good for people with two ears.
In article <slrnn7qt1l.o17.julian@adeed.tele.com>,
Julian Macassey <julian@tele.com> wrote:
Choose Stereo good for people with two ears.
5.1 and 7.1 don't downmix to stereo well.
On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 17:17:23 -0800, Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote:
In article <slrnn7qt1l.o17.julian@adeed.tele.com>,
Julian Macassey <julian@tele.com> wrote:
Choose Stereo good for people with two ears.
5.1 and 7.1 don't downmix to stereo well.
5.1 and 7.1 don't give you what it says on the tin unless
you have decent (not little box) speakers and you place the
listeners in the middle, which is not what I tend to see when I
visit homes that have the whole "Home theater" set up.
Stero works well in less ideal conditions, using decent
speakers placed well. But, your friends may sneer at you.
I predict we will soon have 9.1, speakers added the way
razor manufacturers stack blades. One blade will shave hair, but
two are twice as good. I note I can if I desire buy a six blade
razor, of course it costs more than a single blade razor, but it
does have six blades.
On 28/12/2015 9:45 AM, geoff wrote:
On 27/12/2015 4:19 PM, Julian Macassey wrote:
I predict we will soon have 9.1, speakers added the way
razor manufacturers stack blades.
Yep, you soon trade one problem for another. I find it near impossible
to shave under my nose properly with those stupidly wide 5 blade razors.
And if the blades are too close together, they are impossible to clean.
Just "8" should do it for 360°. Add a ".1" if other speakers have little
bass. And another "1" for soundtrack to cope with soundtracks with a
centre channel.
Which is 9.1 just as he said. Centre channel only necessary in a wide
room, relative to listening position of course.
Just "2" does it for me.
For music it's all you need. And good mono is still better than many
stereo recordings.
On 27/12/2015 4:19 PM, Julian Macassey wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 17:17:23 -0800, Kevin McMurtrie
<mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote:
In article <slrnn7qt1l.o17.julian@adeed.tele.com>,
Julian Macassey <julian@tele.com> wrote:
Choose Stereo good for people with two ears.
5.1 and 7.1 don't downmix to stereo well.
5.1 and 7.1 don't give you what it says on the tin unless
you have decent (not little box) speakers and you place the
listeners in the middle, which is not what I tend to see when I
visit homes that have the whole "Home theater" set up.
Stero works well in less ideal conditions, using decent
speakers placed well. But, your friends may sneer at you.
I predict we will soon have 9.1, speakers added the way
razor manufacturers stack blades. One blade will shave hair, but
two are twice as good. I note I can if I desire buy a six blade
razor, of course it costs more than a single blade razor, but it
does have six blades.
Just "8" should do it for 360°. Add a ".1" if other speakers have little bass. And another "1" for soundtrack to cope with soundtracks with a
centre channel.
Just "2" does it for me.
geoff
On 27/12/2015 4:19 PM, Julian Macassey wrote:
I predict we will soon have 9.1, speakers added the way
razor manufacturers stack blades.
Just "8" should do it for 360°. Add a ".1" if other speakers have little bass. And another "1" for soundtrack to cope with soundtracks with a
centre channel.
Just "2" does it for me.
If you want a really good shave, get hold of an open (cut
throat) razor. It will be the closest shave you have ever had.
It is worth noting that films worth watching tend not to
have all the odd channels. Films with loud noises and explosions
rather than a decent plot and good acting need noise coming at you
from all angles.
That being said, there is much more to good audio
recording than multiple channels.
On 28/12/2015 9:45 AM, geoff wrote:
On 27/12/2015 4:19 PM, Julian Macassey wrote:
I predict we will soon have 9.1, speakers added the way
razor manufacturers stack blades.
Yep, you soon trade one problem for another. I find it near impossible
to shave under my nose properly with those stupidly wide 5 blade razors.
And if the blades are too close together, they are impossible to clean.
Just "8" should do it for 360°. Add a ".1" if other speakers have little
bass. And another "1" for soundtrack to cope with soundtracks with a
centre channel.
Which is 9.1 just as he said. Centre channel only necessary in a wide
room, relative to listening position of course.
The two are not mutually exclusive. Good action movies benefit from good spatial sound with wide range response and high dynamic range. Love
stories not so much.
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 22:40:29 +1300, geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
On 28/12/2015 8:22 PM, Trevor wrote:
The two are not mutually exclusive. Good action movies benefit from good >>> spatial sound with wide range response and high dynamic range. Love
stories not so much.
Many love stories have a bit of loud banging .... ;-O
With good micing and dynamic range, they can get the
slurpy noises too. Maybe a good foley artist needed later.
On 28/12/2015 8:22 PM, Trevor wrote:
The two are not mutually exclusive. Good action movies benefit from good
spatial sound with wide range response and high dynamic range. Love
stories not so much.
Many love stories have a bit of loud banging .... ;-O
My Audio setup: Blu Ray player to 5.1 Yamaha Receiver via digital coax.
I realize that PC M is an uncompressed format that should sound better
than DTS or Dolby Digital. However, while watching a Blu Ray last night, something didn't sound quite right with the surround sound. Movie
dialogue was alternating between the center channel and L/R speakers,
and the SL and SR didn't seem to be working correctly.
Upon troubleshooting, the blu ray PLAYER audio output format was PCM,
but my receiver only detected/sent it in stereo (only the L and R
speakers were lit on the display). When I changed the output mode of the
blu ray PLAYER to DTS, the receiver detected/sent proper 5.1. When I
went to the audio settings on the actual blu ray DISC, the
primary/standard option (the only option in English and without
subtitles) was 6.1 DTS.
I ended up keeping the blu ray PLAYER output format on DTS to match, and
the surround worked.
I thought PCM was the new standard. If a DISC only outputs in DTS, is
this correct? How do I get PCM surround? Is this only available using
an HDMI cable?
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