• KLH Model 21 help

    From audioguymn@gmail.com@21:1/5 to MitchSF on Fri Mar 16 07:22:46 2018
    On Friday, July 27, 2001 at 2:34:43 PM UTC-5, MitchSF wrote:
    Hi,
    I'm almost finished restoring a KLH Model 21. I replaced three transistors on the RF board and it now works!

    The only problem left is a hum from the audio board. I disconnected it from the input to the board so I'm sure it's not coming from anywhere else. I replaced the filter capacitor and all electrolytics on the audio board and it's a little quieter, but still there. The level of the hum doesn't change with the volume control.

    Any hints would be appreciated!

    Thanks,
    Mitch

    Hi Mitch. The power supply filters, either of the black color are/were a common failure item. They should be replaced. However, note that the positive terminal was marked with the stripe as we would now associate with the negative terminal. It is also
    important that you do not increase the value of these capacitors as the power supply can't handle the extra in-rush and operational paramete5rs. Mark - Former National Service Manager, KLH Cambridge.

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  • From Trevor@21:1/5 to audioguymn@gmail.com on Sun Mar 18 05:44:37 2018
    On 17/03/2018 1:22 AM, audioguymn@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, July 27, 2001 at 2:34:43 PM UTC-5, MitchSF wrote:
    Hi, I'm almost finished restoring a KLH Model 21. I replaced three
    transistors on the RF board and it now works!

    The only problem left is a hum from the audio board. I
    disconnected it from the input to the board so I'm sure it's not
    coming from anywhere else. I replaced the filter capacitor and all
    electrolytics on the audio board and it's a little quieter, but
    still there. The level of the hum doesn't change with the volume
    control.

    Any hints would be appreciated!

    Thanks, Mitch

    Hi Mitch. The power supply filters, either of the black color
    are/were a common failure item. They should be replaced. However,
    note that the positive terminal was marked with the stripe as we
    would now associate with the negative terminal. It is also important
    that you do not increase the value of these capacitors as the power
    supply can't handle the extra in-rush and operational paramete5rs.
    Mark - Former National Service Manager, KLH Cambridge.

    Wonder whether he even still has it 17 years later? :-)

    Trevor.

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Once upon a time on usenet Trevor on Sun Mar 18 13:08:43 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet Trevor wrote:
    On 17/03/2018 1:22 AM, audioguymn@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, July 27, 2001 at 2:34:43 PM UTC-5, MitchSF wrote:
    Hi, I'm almost finished restoring a KLH Model 21. I replaced three
    transistors on the RF board and it now works!

    The only problem left is a hum from the audio board. I
    disconnected it from the input to the board so I'm sure it's not
    coming from anywhere else. I replaced the filter capacitor and all
    electrolytics on the audio board and it's a little quieter, but
    still there. The level of the hum doesn't change with the volume
    control.

    Any hints would be appreciated!

    Thanks, Mitch

    Hi Mitch. The power supply filters, either of the black color
    are/were a common failure item. They should be replaced. However,
    note that the positive terminal was marked with the stripe as we
    would now associate with the negative terminal. It is also important
    that you do not increase the value of these capacitors as the power
    supply can't handle the extra in-rush and operational paramete5rs.
    Mark - Former National Service Manager, KLH Cambridge.

    Wonder whether he even still has it 17 years later? :-)

    Trevor.

    Probably not - at least not with the issue still (however somebody might...)

    It's good to have a knowledgeable person posting here so let's not be too harsh...
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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  • From Trevor@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 18 18:12:54 2018
    On 18/03/2018 11:08 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Trevor wrote:
    On 17/03/2018 1:22 AM, audioguymn@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, July 27, 2001 at 2:34:43 PM UTC-5, MitchSF wrote:
    Hi, I'm almost finished restoring a KLH Model 21. I replaced three
    transistors on the RF board and it now works!

    The only problem left is a hum from the audio board. I
    disconnected it from the input to the board so I'm sure it's not
    coming from anywhere else. I replaced the filter capacitor and all
    electrolytics on the audio board and it's a little quieter, but
    still there. The level of the hum doesn't change with the volume
    control.

    Any hints would be appreciated!

    Thanks, Mitch

    Hi Mitch. The power supply filters, either of the black color
    are/were a common failure item. They should be replaced. However,
    note that the positive terminal was marked with the stripe as we
    would now associate with the negative terminal. It is also important
    that you do not increase the value of these capacitors as the power
    supply can't handle the extra in-rush and operational paramete5rs.
    Mark - Former National Service Manager, KLH Cambridge.

    Wonder whether he even still has it 17 years later? :-)


    Probably not - at least not with the issue still (however somebody might...)

    It's good to have a knowledgeable person posting here so let's not be too harsh...

    True, might help someone else, and I wouldn't want to discourage that.
    I'm just amazed at how many people answer 20 year old posts because they
    don't even realise it. :-)

    Trevor.

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Once upon a time on usenet Trevor on Mon Mar 19 15:05:08 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet Trevor wrote:
    On 18/03/2018 11:08 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Trevor wrote:
    On 17/03/2018 1:22 AM, audioguymn@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, July 27, 2001 at 2:34:43 PM UTC-5, MitchSF wrote:
    Hi, I'm almost finished restoring a KLH Model 21. I replaced
    three transistors on the RF board and it now works!

    The only problem left is a hum from the audio board. I
    disconnected it from the input to the board so I'm sure it's not
    coming from anywhere else. I replaced the filter capacitor and
    all electrolytics on the audio board and it's a little quieter,
    but still there. The level of the hum doesn't change with the
    volume control.

    Any hints would be appreciated!

    Thanks, Mitch

    Hi Mitch. The power supply filters, either of the black color
    are/were a common failure item. They should be replaced. However,
    note that the positive terminal was marked with the stripe as we
    would now associate with the negative terminal. It is also
    important that you do not increase the value of these capacitors
    as the power supply can't handle the extra in-rush and operational
    paramete5rs. Mark - Former National Service Manager, KLH Cambridge.

    Wonder whether he even still has it 17 years later? :-)


    Probably not - at least not with the issue still (however somebody
    might...) It's good to have a knowledgeable person posting here so let's
    not
    be too harsh...

    True, might help someone else, and I wouldn't want to discourage that.
    I'm just amazed at how many people answer 20 year old posts because
    they don't even realise it. :-)

    As you likely know it's usually because these days most people don't
    actually use usenet - they use parasitic web forums that don't delete old
    posts in an effort to appear to have lots of content.

    Cheers,
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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  • From Trevor@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 19 20:36:01 2018
    On 19/03/2018 1:05 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Trevor wrote:
    On 18/03/2018 11:08 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Trevor wrote:
    On 17/03/2018 1:22 AM, audioguymn@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, July 27, 2001 at 2:34:43 PM UTC-5, MitchSF wrote:
    Hi, I'm almost finished restoring a KLH Model 21. I replaced
    three transistors on the RF board and it now works!

    The only problem left is a hum from the audio board. I
    disconnected it from the input to the board so I'm sure it's not
    coming from anywhere else. I replaced the filter capacitor and
    all electrolytics on the audio board and it's a little quieter,
    but still there. The level of the hum doesn't change with the
    volume control.

    Any hints would be appreciated!

    Thanks, Mitch

    Hi Mitch. The power supply filters, either of the black color
    are/were a common failure item. They should be replaced. However,
    note that the positive terminal was marked with the stripe as we
    would now associate with the negative terminal. It is also
    important that you do not increase the value of these capacitors
    as the power supply can't handle the extra in-rush and operational
    paramete5rs. Mark - Former National Service Manager, KLH Cambridge.

    Wonder whether he even still has it 17 years later? :-)


    Probably not - at least not with the issue still (however somebody
    might...) It's good to have a knowledgeable person posting here so let's >>> not
    be too harsh...

    True, might help someone else, and I wouldn't want to discourage that.
    I'm just amazed at how many people answer 20 year old posts because
    they don't even realise it. :-)

    As you likely know it's usually because these days most people don't
    actually use usenet - they use parasitic web forums that don't delete old posts in an effort to appear to have lots of content.


    Yes I know, and many are from Google Groups, but I would have thought
    the date was still shown somewhere? But then I've never used it myself.

    Trevor.

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Once upon a time on usenet Trevor on Tue Mar 20 13:01:52 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet Trevor wrote:
    On 19/03/2018 1:05 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Trevor wrote:
    On 18/03/2018 11:08 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Trevor wrote:
    On 17/03/2018 1:22 AM, audioguymn@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, July 27, 2001 at 2:34:43 PM UTC-5, MitchSF wrote:
    Hi, I'm almost finished restoring a KLH Model 21. I replaced
    three transistors on the RF board and it now works!

    The only problem left is a hum from the audio board. I
    disconnected it from the input to the board so I'm sure it's not >>>>>>> coming from anywhere else. I replaced the filter capacitor and
    all electrolytics on the audio board and it's a little quieter,
    but still there. The level of the hum doesn't change with the
    volume control.

    Any hints would be appreciated!

    Thanks, Mitch

    Hi Mitch. The power supply filters, either of the black color
    are/were a common failure item. They should be replaced. However,
    note that the positive terminal was marked with the stripe as we
    would now associate with the negative terminal. It is also
    important that you do not increase the value of these capacitors
    as the power supply can't handle the extra in-rush and
    operational paramete5rs. Mark - Former National Service Manager,
    KLH Cambridge.

    Wonder whether he even still has it 17 years later? :-)


    Probably not - at least not with the issue still (however somebody
    might...) It's good to have a knowledgeable person posting here so
    let's not
    be too harsh...

    True, might help someone else, and I wouldn't want to discourage
    that. I'm just amazed at how many people answer 20 year old posts
    because they don't even realise it. :-)

    As you likely know it's usually because these days most people don't
    actually use usenet - they use parasitic web forums that don't
    delete old posts in an effort to appear to have lots of content.


    Yes I know, and many are from Google Groups, but I would have thought
    the date was still shown somewhere? But then I've never used it
    myself.

    Nor have I - at least not for posting. Once or twice I've tried to search
    for an old post. The bastards took over Deja news archives and butchered
    them!
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 21 23:04:14 2018
    On 18/03/2018 1:08 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Trevor wrote:
    On 17/03/2018 1:22 AM, audioguymn@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, July 27, 2001 at 2:34:43 PM UTC-5, MitchSF wrote:
    Hi, I'm almost finished restoring a KLH Model 21. I replaced three
    transistors on the RF board and it now works!

    The only problem left is a hum from the audio board. I
    disconnected it from the input to the board so I'm sure it's not
    coming from anywhere else. I replaced the filter capacitor and all
    electrolytics on the audio board and it's a little quieter, but
    still there. The level of the hum doesn't change with the volume
    control.

    Any hints would be appreciated!

    Thanks, Mitch

    Hi Mitch. The power supply filters, either of the black color
    are/were a common failure item. They should be replaced. However,
    note that the positive terminal was marked with the stripe as we
    would now associate with the negative terminal. It is also important
    that you do not increase the value of these capacitors as the power
    supply can't handle the extra in-rush and operational paramete5rs.
    Mark - Former National Service Manager, KLH Cambridge.

    Wonder whether he even still has it 17 years later? :-)

    Trevor.

    Probably not - at least not with the issue still (however somebody might...)

    It's good to have a knowledgeable person posting here so let's not be too harsh...


    Jeeze Shaun - you stalking me or something - you're everywhere !

    geoff

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Once upon a time on usenet geoff on Sat Mar 24 18:43:05 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet geoff wrote:
    On 18/03/2018 1:08 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Trevor wrote:
    On 17/03/2018 1:22 AM, audioguymn@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, July 27, 2001 at 2:34:43 PM UTC-5, MitchSF wrote:
    Hi, I'm almost finished restoring a KLH Model 21. I replaced
    three transistors on the RF board and it now works!

    The only problem left is a hum from the audio board. I
    disconnected it from the input to the board so I'm sure it's not
    coming from anywhere else. I replaced the filter capacitor and
    all electrolytics on the audio board and it's a little quieter,
    but still there. The level of the hum doesn't change with the
    volume control.

    Any hints would be appreciated!

    Thanks, Mitch

    Hi Mitch. The power supply filters, either of the black color
    are/were a common failure item. They should be replaced. However,
    note that the positive terminal was marked with the stripe as we
    would now associate with the negative terminal. It is also
    important that you do not increase the value of these capacitors
    as the power supply can't handle the extra in-rush and operational
    paramete5rs. Mark - Former National Service Manager, KLH Cambridge.

    Wonder whether he even still has it 17 years later? :-)

    Trevor.

    Probably not - at least not with the issue still (however somebody
    might...) It's good to have a knowledgeable person posting here so let's
    not
    be too harsh...


    Jeeze Shaun - you stalking me or something

    Says the man replying to me...

    - you're everywhere !

    I prefer omnipresent. ;-)
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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