• Annual Spring Cautionary Post

    From Peter Wieck@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 13 05:42:52 2019
    Although not many here are scroungers or scavengers, perhaps there are enough to merit this post. I have pulled any number of gems out of dumpsters, barn sales and yard sales, in any case. This applies mostly to the continental United States, but I am
    sure similar perils lurk everywhere. So:

    http://www.nwf.org/~/media/PDFs/Global-Warming/Reports/They-Came-From-Climate-Change-WEB.ashx

    https://entomology.ca.uky.edu/ef631

    https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/surveillance/

    http://bugguide.net/node/view/475348

    https://www.cdc.gov/rodents/diseases/direct.html

    https://www.cdc.gov/ncezid/dvbd/

    https://ee_ce_img.s3.amazonaws.com/cache/ce_img/media/remote/ce_img/https_ee_channel_images.s3.amazonaws.com/article-figures/12582/article-g02_400_301.jpg

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/61646.php images.radiopaedia.org/images/1827647/6b765cac7f64a5107b54df2e031e12.jpg

    It is time for the annual post on stalking the wild radio, audio component (or other collectible) - and what accidental passengers that may come along with it:

    1. Insects and other arthropods:

    Anything from spiders to wasps to fleas and more. Any radio that has spent substantial time in a barn, basement, shed, garage or any other damp or exposed area may well be inhabited by or infested with various small and potentially painful critters.
    Especially those found in the southern states, home to the Brown Recluse and Black Widow spiders. Wasps, centipedes (quite
    poisonous as it happens) and other vermin are no fun as well. And, if you do find some critter of this nature, KILL IT. Being soft-hearted and releasing it into _your_ environment may make you feel all warm
    and fuzzy, but that creature may then cause considerable harm being somewhere it does not belong and where it perhaps has no natural predators. EDIT: Global Warming (whether you believe in it or not) has pushed the Recluse range into southern Maryland –
    mostly by human transport and not as successful breeding colonies but more and more common, with some few transported by human agency as far as Michigan and Pennsylvania. This is one NASTY spider with a very nasty bite.

    2. Evidence of Rodent Inhabitation: Handle with GREAT care.

    Hanta-Virus (a relative of Ebola) is endemic throughout the entire United States, Mexico and parts of Canada. It is a disease without effective treatment and an over 50% mortality rate worldwide (36% in the US). It is carried in the feces and fresh urine
    of many rodents...and there is limited recent evidence that reconstituted waste (dried but inhaled) will also spread the disease especially if inhaled, a possibility not accepted in the recent past.

    Lyme Disease: Carried by deer ticks that winter over in the white-footed deer mouse (an omnivore, BTW) that will winter over anywhere it can find shelter. The ticks that mice carry will leave the mouse to lay eggs... perhaps in that radio that served as
    their temporary winter dorm and latrine. Various other tick-borne diseases include Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, and a whole bunch more *very* nasty diseases not worth risking, are all endemic in the US.

    Note that per the CDC, there are now four types of ticks carrying multiple diseases dangerous to humans and pets. All this flying back and forth with pet animals has made the problem massively worse.

    3. Bird Dung & Old Nests: Per a recent paper, there have been over sixty (60) diseases that may be carried in wild bird poop including Avian Flu, Fowl Typhoid, Infectious Coryza, Paratyphoid, Salmonellosis, Schistosomiasis, strep and on-and-on. ((Those
    of you servicing your Bluebird and other bird houses about now need also keep this in mind.)) Most wild birds are carriers of these diseases and show no visible symptoms. We bleach our birdhouses - THEN we clean them out. Amazing the number of dead
    insects and other vermin we get out of them every spring.

    Asbestos: Dangerous only when friable - small particles able to become airborne easily. If you are a smoker, even more dangerous. A single (one (1)) fiber can cause a fatal reaction over time – although that actuality is extremely rare and will (
    usually) take many years. For all that, it is fairly easily made safe with a little bit of care and caution. But even if you do not believe it is dangerous, you do not have the right to expose others, or transport it in conveyances where residual
    material may come in contact with others - that is, do not transport it openly in the family minivan.

    Bottom line: A proverbial ounce of caution beats the hell out of a pound of care. Common sense, rubber gloves, a breathing mask, Lysol, Bleach, Moth-balls, Insecticides (which often do not work on Spiders or Ticks, so read the label), and other
    elementary precautions conscientiously and carefully applied will "safen" even the nastiest of wild radios.


    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From Peter Wieck@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 1 08:23:19 2020
    All:

    Even with COViD-19, this applies, only more-so.

    http://www.nwf.org/~/media/PDFs/Global-Warming/Reports/They-Came-From-Climate-Change-WEB.ashx

    https://entomology.ca.uky.edu/ef631

    https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/surveillance/

    http://bugguide.net/node/view/475348

    https://www.cdc.gov/rodents/diseases/direct.html

    https://www.cdc.gov/ncezid/dvbd/

    https://ee_ce_img.s3.amazonaws.com/cache/ce_img/media/remote/ce_img/https_ee_channel_images.s3.amazonaws.com/article-figures/12582/article-g02_400_301.jpg

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/61646.php images.radiopaedia.org/images/1827647/6b765cac7f64a5107b54df2e031e12.jpg

    It is time for the annual post on stalking the wild radio (or other collectible) - and what accidental passengers that may come along with it:

    1. Insects and other arthropods:

    Anything from spiders to wasps to fleas and more. Any radio that has spent substantial time in a barn, basement, shed, garage or any other damp or exposed area may well be inhabited by or infested with various small and potentially painful critters.
    Especially those found in the southern states, home to the Brown Recluse and Black Widow spiders. Wasps, centipedes (quite
    poisonous as it happens) and other vermin are no fun as well. And, if you do find some critter of this nature, KILL IT. Being soft-hearted and releasing it into _your_ environment may make you feel all warm
    and fuzzy, but that creature may then cause considerable harm being somewhere it does not belong and where it perhaps has no natural predators. EDIT: Global Warming (whether you believe in it or not) has pushed the Recluse range into southern Maryland –
    mostly by human transport and not as successful breeding colonies but more and more common, with some few transported by human agency as far as Michigan and Pennsylvania. This is one NASTY spider with a very nasty bite.

    2. Evidence of Rodent Inhabitation: Handle with GREAT care.

    Hanta-Virus (a relative of Ebola) is endemic throughout the entire United States, Mexico and parts of Canada. It is a disease without effective treatment and an over 50% mortality rate worldwide (36% in the US). It is carried in the feces and fresh urine
    of many rodents...and there is limited recent evidence that reconstituted waste (dried but inhaled) will also spread the disease especially if inhaled, a possibility not accepted in the recent past.

    Lyme Disease: Carried by deer ticks that winter over in the white-footed deer mouse (an omnivore, BTW) that will winter over anywhere it can find shelter. The ticks that mice carry will leave the mouse to lay eggs... perhaps in that radio that served as
    their temporary winter dorm and latrine. Various other tick-borne diseases include Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, and a whole bunch more *very* nasty diseases not worth risking, are all endemic in the US.

    Note that per the CDC, there are now four types of ticks carrying multiple diseases dangerous to humans and pets. All this flying back and forth with pet animals has made the problem massively worse.

    3. Bird Dung & Old Nests: Per a recent paper, there have been over sixty (60) diseases that may be carried in wild bird poop including Avian Flu, Fowl Typhoid, Infectious Coryza, Paratyphoid, Salmonellosis, Schistosomiasis, strep and on-and-on. ((Those
    of you servicing your Bluebird and other bird houses about now need also keep this in mind.)) Most wild birds are carriers of these diseases and show no visible symptoms. We bleach our birdhouses - THEN we clean them out. Amazing the number of dead
    insects and other vermin we get out of them every spring.

    Asbestos: Dangerous only when friable - small particles able to become airborne easily. If you are a smoker, even more dangerous. A single (one (1)) fiber can cause a fatal reaction over time – although that actuality is extremely rare and will (
    usually) take many years. For all that, it is fairly easily made safe with a little bit of care and caution. But even if you do not believe it is dangerous, you do not have the right to expose others, or transport it in conveyances where residual
    material may come in contact with others - that is, do not transport it openly in the family minivan.

    Bottom line: A proverbial ounce of caution beats the hell out of a pound of care. Common sense, rubber gloves, a breathing mask, Lysol, Bleach, Moth-balls, Insecticides (which often do not work on Spiders or Ticks, so read the label), and other
    elementary precautions conscientiously and carefully applied will "safen" even the nastiest of wild radios.


    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From Lord Valve@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 1 14:11:13 2020
    On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 9:23:21 AM UTC-6, Peter Wieck puked a stinking greenweenie hairball upon the RAT carpet, steaming and quivering in the naked light of day:

    <snip>

    My God, what a crock of utter leftist shit. You *deserve*
    the Green New Deal and the destruction it would wreak
    upon this nation. I'll wager you spend a considerable
    portion of each day pounding your pathetic pud in front
    of Alexandria Occasional Cortex's picture.

    You stupid shit.


    Lord Valve, ThD
    American/Patriot (fuck you!)

    T R U M P 2 0 2 4 - M A G A - 1 7 7 6 / 1 8 6 1

    Q - W W G 1 W G A

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  • From Peter Wieck@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 1 15:18:47 2020
    LV: Thank you for demonstrating so clearly and concisely that you are entirely unencumbered by the thought process!

    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From Lord Valve@21:1/5 to Peter Wieck on Thu Apr 2 10:57:05 2020
    On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 4:18:49 PM UTC-6, Peter Wieck wrote:
    LV: Thank you for demonstrating so clearly and concisely that you are entirely unencumbered by the thought process!

    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

    Oh, I think my thought processes are fairly acute.
    I think - hell, I *know* - that you were gullible
    enough to join the Global Warming Cult and pay
    tribute to its pope, Algore. You've bought into
    the most magnificent long con ever mounted in the
    history of Mankind, a hustle so good that the marks
    not only don't expect to see the payoff until after
    they CROAK, but go around fervently recruiting new
    marks to fund the con. It's fucking brilliant, I
    gotta hand it to you. The marks jump at the chance
    to pay for "green" energy and products...which work
    half as well and cost three times as much as the
    real ones. And you have a new Virgin Madonna, Saint
    Greta Cuntberp, who will doubtless be awarded the
    Nobel Piece Prize for cutting herself in on a piece
    of the action at such a tender age, walking in the
    footsteps of Barack Hussein O'Butthole, who was awarded
    the same prize based on the melanin content of his
    epidermis, although I seem to be harboring an alternate
    memory of his having found it at the bottom of a box of
    Cracker-Jacks, or maybe it was a bucket of KFC. No matter...

    Boy Howdy, Pete, that's a killer hustle y'all got, and if my
    IQ were only 50 points lower (better make that 100, come
    to think of it) I'd gleefully hop on the bandwagon, waving the
    same same glorious red banners as the rest of you, shouting
    "Orange Man Bad," wearing a Che T-shirt, singing the Mickey
    Maoist Club theme song ("Who's the leader of the gang that
    hates the USA? B - A - R, A - C - K, O - B - A - M - A!")
    and farting egregiously from having eaten all that fucking
    kale.

    Look downward, Pete...see that withered round thing you're
    holding? That's you ASS, Junior, and I'm going to hand it
    to you every time you try to pull any of that Extreme Climate
    Change horse-shit around here.

    Lord Valve, ThD
    Climate Debunker

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  • From Peter Wieck@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 2 11:58:01 2020
    So, once more, clearly, but not so concise this time.

    a) Unencumbered by the thought process.
    b) Absolute proof that one cannot fix stupid.
    c) And, as your final achievement, invincible ignorance.

    LV, you have hit the Trifecta!

    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From Big Bad Bob@21:1/5 to Peter Wieck on Thu Apr 23 02:57:40 2020
    On 2020-04-01 08:23, Peter Wieck wrote:
    All this flying back and forth with pet animals has made the problem massively worse.

    yes, but someone out there NEEDS that "comfort peacock" - better let him
    on the plane with his peacock (or something is WRONG with YOU)!

    as for critters living in old gear, as long as it's not cockroaches
    [which seem to like electronics] then a bit of compressed air should fix
    it. Really old wire chewed by mice, though... that would be a bit of
    work to fix!

    Now, if the insides are coated with TOBACCO SMOKE residue, _THAT_ is
    difficult to clean up [and pretty damn gross]. Had to do that with a
    reverb unit, though it was a solid state one (Fender). Used LOTS and
    LOTS of isopropyl alcohol.

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  • From Peter Wieck@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 22 05:50:05 2022
    Although not many here are scroungers or scavengers, perhaps there are enough to merit this post. I have pulled any number of gems out of dumpsters, barn sales and yard sales, in any case. This applies mostly to the continental United States, but I am
    sure similar perils lurk everywhere. Further to this, I am told (by an Australian) that pretty much every person, plant or animal in Australia is trying to kill you. So:

    http://www.nwf.org/~/media/PDFs/Global-Warming/Reports/They-Came-From-Climate-Change-WEB.ashx

    https://entomology.ca.uky.edu/ef631

    https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/surveillance/

    http://bugguide.net/node/view/475348

    https://www.cdc.gov/rodents/diseases/direct.html

    https://www.cdc.gov/ncezid/dvbd/

    https://ee_ce_img.s3.amazonaws.com/cache/ce_img/media/remote/ce_img/https_ee_channel_images.s3.amazonaws.com/article-figures/12582/article-g02_400_301.jpg

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/61646.php images.radiopaedia.org/images/1827647/6b765cac7f64a5107b54df2e031e12.jpg

    It is time for the annual post on stalking the wild radio, audio component (or other collectible) - and what accidental passengers that may come along with it:

    1. Insects and other arthropods:

    Anything from spiders to wasps to fleas and more. Any radio that has spent substantial time in a barn, basement, shed, garage or any other damp or exposed area may well be inhabited by or infested with various small and potentially painful critters.
    Especially those found in the southern states, home to the Brown Recluse and Black Widow spiders. Wasps, centipedes (quite
    poisonous as it happens) and other vermin are no fun as well. And, if you do find some critter of this nature, KILL IT. Being soft-hearted and releasing it into _your_ environment may make you feel all warm
    and fuzzy, but that creature may then cause considerable harm being somewhere it does not belong and where it perhaps has no natural predators. EDIT: Global Warming (whether you believe in it or not) has pushed the Recluse range into southern Maryland –
    mostly by human transport and not as successful breeding colonies but more and more common, with some few transported by human agency as far as Michigan and Pennsylvania. This is one NASTY spider with a very nasty bite.

    2. Evidence of Rodent Inhabitation: Handle with GREAT care.

    Hanta-Virus (a relative of Ebola) is endemic throughout the entire United States, Mexico and parts of Canada. It is a disease without effective treatment and an over 50% mortality rate worldwide (36% in the US). It is carried in the feces and fresh urine
    of many rodents...and there is limited recent evidence that reconstituted waste (dried but inhaled) will also spread the disease especially if inhaled, a possibility not accepted in the recent past.

    Lyme Disease: Carried by deer ticks that winter over in the white-footed deer mouse (an omnivore, BTW) that will winter over anywhere it can find shelter. The ticks that mice carry will leave the mouse to lay eggs... perhaps in that radio that served as
    their temporary winter dorm and latrine. Various other tick-borne diseases include Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, and a whole bunch more *very* nasty diseases not worth risking, are all endemic in the US.

    Note that per the CDC, there are now four types of ticks carrying multiple diseases dangerous to humans and pets. All this flying back and forth with pet animals has made the problem massively worse.

    3. Bird Dung & Old Nests: Per a recent paper, there have been over sixty (60) diseases that may be carried in wild bird poop including Avian Flu, Fowl Typhoid, Infectious Coryza, Paratyphoid, Salmonellosis, Schistosomiasis, strep and on-and-on. ((Those
    of you servicing your Bluebird and other bird houses about now need also keep this in mind.)) Most wild birds are carriers of these diseases and show no visible symptoms. We bleach our birdhouses - THEN we clean them out. Amazing the number of dead
    insects and other vermin we get out of them every spring.

    Asbestos: Dangerous only when friable - small particles able to become airborne easily. If you are a smoker, even more dangerous. It is possible for a single (one (1)) fiber to cause a fatal reaction over time – although that actuality is extremely
    rare and will (usually) take many years. For all that, it is fairly easily made safe with a little bit of care and caution. But even if you do not believe it is dangerous, you do not have the right to expose others, or transport it in conveyances where
    residual material may come in contact with others - that is, do not transport it openly in the family minivan.

    Bottom line: A proverbial ounce of caution beats the hell out of a pound of care. Common sense, rubber gloves, a breathing mask, Lysol, Bleach, Moth-balls, Insecticides (which often do not work on Spiders or Ticks, so read the label), and other
    elementary precautions conscientiously and carefully applied will "safen" even the nastiest of wild radios.



    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From Big Bad Bombastic Bob@21:1/5 to Peter Wieck on Fri May 20 10:45:07 2022
    On 3/22/22 05:50, Peter Wieck wrote:
    Anything from spiders to wasps to fleas and more. Any radio that has spent substantial time in a barn, basement, shed, garage or any other damp or exposed area may well be inhabited by or infested with various small and potentially painful critters.

    etc.

    yeah, the flux residue, various kinds of greases, wax coatings, and
    potting material might actually taste good enough to bugs and rodents
    for them to live off of it, and the spiders and scorpions and centipedes
    (and fleas, in the case of rodent infestations) go where the food is.

    Used musical equipment can sometimes be similarly mucked up. I took an
    old reverb unit (transistors though) apart and cleaned it all up really
    well with electrical cleaner. It stank like cigarettes deep inside.
    Worked much better when I was done, that and a few re-soldered
    connections. Not pre-CBS fender (which would have been tubes) but early
    1970's most likely. Still has a good sound last I used it, which has
    been a few years actually...

    [single side through-hole circuit board, with parts quite some distance
    apart from each other, that looks like it was designed using a French
    Curve on a traditional drafting table]

    so yeah washing out headache-inducing cigarette stench is is another
    risk in rescuing old gear. (and those sinus headaches are HORRIBLE)

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