• rarity of LF and HF adjustable coils, coil forms, etc.

    From Big Bad Bob@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 2 00:50:19 2021
    There seems to be a general LACK of non-N.O.S. and
    non-ripped-out-of-gear RF coils for LF and HF band, ESPECIALLY the coil
    forms needed to wind your own, particularly ADJUSTABLE ones.

    If you're into antique radio restoration this could be a SERIOUS problem!

    I _HAVE_ seen sources for ferrite [and most likely powdered iron as
    well] core material as ferrite rods, though. There are also toroidal
    ferrite beads of an appropriate length that would work.

    So getting cor ematerial isn't the problem. It's the COIL FORM that is
    the problem!


    I think I have a solution involving a 3D printer, nylong screws and
    nuts, and those ferrite rods of various dimensions.


    Here's the basic plan: Using a ferrite or powdered iron core of a
    reasonably correct size, construct a coil form around it that could work
    for:

    * IF transformer inside of a can
    * Peaking or resonant circuit inside or outside of a can
    * ratio detector transformers

    you'd use a 3D printer to make an appropriate coil form with the right inside/outside diameter

    You'd attach some kind of adjusting yoke, or make it part of the 3D print

    You'd use nylon screw and nuts to make the adjustment stem

    You'd glue a nut onto the core, and then attach [and glue] the nylong
    screw to it


    Now you have an adjustable inductor, one that may even fit in the
    original can [if there is one], which you can wind yourself as necessary
    using standard available coil wire.


    This is all DO-able, and might solve the problem of HYPER-EXPENSIVE
    N.O.S. parts and (generally) unavailable coil forms.


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  • From Big Bad Bob@21:1/5 to Big Bad Bob on Wed Apr 14 09:38:31 2021
    On 2021-04-02 00:50, Big Bad Bob wrote:
    There seems to be a general LACK of non-N.O.S. and
    non-ripped-out-of-gear RF coils for LF and HF band, ESPECIALLY the coil
    forms needed to wind your own, particularly ADJUSTABLE ones.

    If you're into antique radio restoration this could be a SERIOUS problem!

    I _HAVE_ seen sources for ferrite [and most likely powdered iron as
    well] core material as ferrite rods, though.  There are also toroidal ferrite beads of an appropriate length that would work.

    I've gone and purchased some ferrite rods. 3 of the 5 big ones (around
    6 inches long, 10cm diameter) arrived in one piece; 2 of them shattered
    into multiple pieces. But the diameter fits the coil form I printed.

    I wanted to cut it into 1 inch pieces anyway. To test the coil form, I
    ground down the smallest one to fit the test coil, which adjusts from
    20uH to 160uH with 62 turns [one layer only].

    Here's the (current) OpenSCAD file for the form: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bombasticbob/3DObjects/master/coil_form.scad

    I have other cores on order that are 2.8cm in diameter [and shorter].
    The coil form for THAT one prints out nicely, but isn't tested yet.
    I'll test it when they arrive in about a month [slow shipping].

    the OpenSCAD file for the 2nd one: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bombasticbob/3DObjects/master/coil_form2.scad

    You'd attach some kind of adjusting yoke, or make it part of the 3D print

    this works if I use 1/8 inch plus around 0.3mm of clearance for a 4-40
    screw. I have 1.5 inch nylon screws on order, and already have 4-40
    nuts on hand.

    You'd use nylon screw and nuts to make the adjustment stem

    You'd glue a nut onto the core, and then attach [and glue] the nylong
    screw to it

    I actually considered gluing the screw directly to the slug, rather than
    using a nut. This is particularly important for the 2.8mm version.

    So the basic P.O.C. is good, and the form has plenty of 'things' to wrap
    wires around (to anchor them) in order to make custom RF inductors for
    whatever you want. The intent is to hand-wind so I figure one layer at
    a time and then solder the layers together, to avoid sore fingers.

    With the big one having 20uH to 160uH with 62 turns, you should be able
    to wind >1mH coils with 4 layers, as needed for peaking coils or
    resonant circuits for FM stereo demodulation "the hard way".

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