• Brandon Sanderson ruined The Wheel of Time.

    From Ronald Myckham@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 4 08:09:41 2019
    Not sure why so many defenders appeared online during the release of his terrible books. It almost seems like astroturfing was going on.

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  • From st.chucky@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 4 02:54:28 2019
    torstai 4. heinäkuuta 2019 11.09.44 UTC+3 Ronald Myckham kirjoitti:

    Not sure why so many defenders appeared online during the release of his terrible books. It almost seems like astroturfing was going on.

    Finishing the series off was always going to be a hard job. I think he did fine. There was nothing too unsatisfying there and he had a lot of loose ends to tie up.

    C@w
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  • From Ronald Myckham@21:1/5 to Chucky@Work on Thu Jul 4 19:21:41 2019
    "Chucky@Work" <st.chucky@gmail.com> wrote in news:ff2fa2c3-8c06-4e3b-b0a4-5133bfebc813@googlegroups.com:

    torstai 4. heinäkuuta 2019 11.09.44 UTC+3 Ronald Myckham kirjoitti:

    Not sure why so many defenders appeared online during the release of
    his

    terrible books. It almost seems like astroturfing was going on.

    Finishing the series off was always going to be a hard job. I think he
    did fine. There was nothing too unsatisfying there and he had a lot of
    loose ends to tie up.

    No offense intended by this question, I'm only speaking to your skill as
    an excellent parodist, but are you restating the forced narrative to be
    funny or is that really your opinion?

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  • From st.chucky@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 4 12:06:49 2019
    torstai 4. heinäkuuta 2019 22.21.43 UTC+3 Ronald Myckham kirjoitti:

    Sorry, missed this reply. Don't know if you're still around.

    Not sure why so many defenders appeared online during the release of
    his terrible books. It almost seems like astroturfing was going on.

    Finishing the series off was always going to be a hard job. I think he
    did fine. There was nothing too unsatisfying there and he had a lot of loose ends to tie up.

    No offense intended by this question, I'm only speaking to your skill as
    an excellent parodist, but are you restating the forced narrative to be funny or is that really your opinion?

    I'm not sure I understand the question. I honestly think Sanderson did a good job with finishing off the story. I'm not an astroturfbot, and I appreciate your praise of my parody work.


    C@h
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  • From Ronald Myckham@21:1/5 to Chucky@Work on Mon Aug 5 15:22:36 2019
    "Chucky@Work" <st.chucky@gmail.com> wrote in news:1b2e0f4f-c800-4aa7-845e-c1de09429780@googlegroups.com:

    torstai 4. heinäkuuta 2019 22.21.43 UTC+3 Ronald Myckham kirjoitti:

    Sorry, missed this reply. Don't know if you're still around.

    Not sure why so many defenders appeared online during the release
    of his terrible books. It almost seems like astroturfing was going
    on.

    Finishing the series off was always going to be a hard job. I think
    he did fine. There was nothing too unsatisfying there and he had a
    lot of loose ends to tie up.

    No offense intended by this question, I'm only speaking to your skill
    as

    an excellent parodist, but are you restating the forced narrative to
    be

    funny or is that really your opinion?

    I'm not sure I understand the question. I honestly think Sanderson did
    a good job with finishing off the story.

    We just disagree, and I'm paranoid. That's all.

    I'm not an astroturfbot

    I do appreciate this clarification, though I knew who you were before
    posting that.

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  • From st.chucky@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 6 03:00:05 2019
    tiistai 6. elokuuta 2019 12.59.26 UTC+3 Chucky@Work kirjoitti:

    Anyway, ddiscussion welcome.

    Or even just discussion.

    C@w
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  • From st.chucky@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 6 02:59:25 2019
    maanantai 5. elokuuta 2019 18.22.39 UTC+3 Ronald Myckham kirjoitti:

    I'm not sure I understand the question. I honestly think Sanderson did
    a good job with finishing off the story.

    We just disagree, and I'm paranoid. That's all.

    Fair enough.

    I'm not an astroturfbot

    I do appreciate this clarification, though I knew who you were before posting that.

    Cool. You never really clarified why you thought this - I mean your initial opinion on Sanderson. I concede it was hardly an efficient use of your time to go into reasons for an audience of zero, but how about an audience of one?

    And do you just dislike his Wheel of Time books, or his other stuff in general? If the former, was there anything specific you would have done differently? If the latter, I admit that I'm halfway through Sanderson's latest Stormlight book and have
    stopped to read, like, five other books in the meantime and may not go back to it at all. Simply because, sadly, it didn't grip me.

    Anyway, ddiscussion welcome.


    C@w
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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Chucky@Work on Tue Aug 6 13:47:14 2019
    "Chucky@Work" <st.chucky@gmail.com> writes:
    tiistai 6. elokuuta 2019 12.59.26 UTC+3 Chucky@Work kirjoitti:

    Anyway, ddiscussion welcome.

    Or even just discussion.

    I, personally, enjoyed the Sanderson's books for the most part. I do
    think he didn't get Matrim's quite right however, and I was unhappy
    as to Egwene's fate - but it's not clear that was Sanderson or Jim's
    notes.

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  • From st.chucky@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 6 22:36:33 2019
    tiistai 6. elokuuta 2019 16.47.15 UTC+3 Scott Lurndal kirjoitti:

    I, personally, enjoyed the Sanderson's books for the most part. I do
    think he didn't get Matrim's quite right however,

    I may have to re-read the whole set and see how abrupt the shift was. I confess I never really fell in love with Mat's character the way so many readers seemed to, so I wasn't bothered by any change that ended up happening. I enjoyed his storyline and ta'
    veren attributes, and I don't know how those changed.

    and I was unhappy as to Egwene's fate - but it's not clear that was
    Sanderson or Jim's notes.

    Yeah, I tend to think most of those really big-deal sort of plot points were laid out in the notes Sanderson was following, but who really knows? Egwene deserved to take her place as a world leader, and if anyone was going to sacrifice herself for the
    Emond's Fielders / the world / the entire universe, it probably should have been Nynaeve.

    But I guess it is what it is.



    C@w
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  • From Ronald Myckham@21:1/5 to Chucky@Work on Wed Aug 7 22:10:56 2019
    "Chucky@Work" <st.chucky@gmail.com> wrote in news:1af53ab4-05f6-43e6-844b-30238ac9eb73@googlegroups.com:

    maanantai 5. elokuuta 2019 18.22.39 UTC+3 Ronald Myckham kirjoitti:

    I'm not sure I understand the question. I honestly think Sanderson
    did a good job with finishing off the story.

    We just disagree, and I'm paranoid. That's all.

    Fair enough.

    I'm not an astroturfbot

    I do appreciate this clarification, though I knew who you were before
    posting that.

    Cool. You never really clarified why you thought this - I mean your
    initial opinion on Sanderson. I concede it was hardly an efficient use
    of your time to go into reasons for an audience of zero, but how about
    an audience of one?

    And do you just dislike his Wheel of Time books, or his other stuff in general? If the former, was there anything specific you would have
    done differently? If the latter, I admit that I'm halfway through
    Sanderson's latest Stormlight book and have stopped to read, like,
    five other books in the meantime and may not go back to it at all.
    Simply because, sadly, it didn't grip me.

    Anyway, ddiscussion welcome.


    C@w

    Whatever happened to Janica?

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  • From st.chucky@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 8 02:09:34 2019
    torstai 8. elokuuta 2019 1.11.00 UTC+3 Ronald Myckham kirjoitti:

    Whatever happened to Janica?

    Since this morning? Not much, I imagine she's just hanging at home, preparing for our trip to Dublin for Worldcon next week. She's on a long vacation since she works at a school.

    I'm posting cheekily from work, we don't get much chance to hit the newsgroups from home together these days.


    C@w
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  • From Cassie@21:1/5 to Chucky@Work on Tue Aug 27 18:26:05 2019
    On 4-8-2019 21:06, Chucky@Work wrote:
    torstai 4. heinäkuuta 2019 22.21.43 UTC+3 Ronald Myckham kirjoitti:

    Sorry, missed this reply. Don't know if you're still around.

    Not sure why so many defenders appeared online during the release of
    his terrible books. It almost seems like astroturfing was going on.

    Finishing the series off was always going to be a hard job. I think he
    did fine. There was nothing too unsatisfying there and he had a lot of
    loose ends to tie up.

    No offense intended by this question, I'm only speaking to your skill as
    an excellent parodist, but are you restating the forced narrative to be
    funny or is that really your opinion?

    I'm not sure I understand the question. I honestly think Sanderson did a good job with finishing off the story. I'm not an astroturfbot, and I appreciate your praise of my parody work.

    I agree with you that he did a good job. It is hard to finish others man
    work.

    Cassie

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  • From Timothy Bruening@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 16 22:17:20 2019
    I liked the town where the people who die during their nightly bouts of violence come back to life each morning, safe in their beds!

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  • From Timothy Bruening@21:1/5 to Timothy Bruening on Thu Jan 20 01:19:25 2022
    On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 10:17:21 PM UTC-8, Timothy Bruening wrote:
    I liked the town where the people who die during their nightly bouts of violence come back to life each morning, safe in their beds!

    Did the Hinderstappers come back to life the day after Rand reforged the Seal on the DO's prison?

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  • From jjvors@21:1/5 to tsbr...@gmail.com on Thu Jan 20 15:35:46 2022
    On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 3:19:26 AM UTC-6, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 10:17:21 PM UTC-8, Timothy Bruening wrote:
    I liked the town where the people who die during their nightly bouts of violence come back to life each morning, safe in their beds!
    Did the Hinderstappers come back to life the day after Rand reforged the Seal on the DO's prison?
    Great question. I assume not, since I assume that was due to the Dark One removing the boundaries between life and death.

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  • From jjvors@21:1/5 to Chucky@Work on Thu Jan 20 15:34:11 2022
    On Wednesday, August 7, 2019 at 12:36:35 AM UTC-5, Chucky@Work wrote:
    tiistai 6. elokuuta 2019 16.47.15 UTC+3 Scott Lurndal kirjoitti:

    I, personally, enjoyed the Sanderson's books for the most part. I do
    think he didn't get Matrim's quite right however,
    I may have to re-read the whole set and see how abrupt the shift was. I confess I never really fell in love with Mat's character the way so many readers seemed to, so I wasn't bothered by any change that ended up happening. I enjoyed his storyline and
    ta'veren attributes, and I don't know how those changed.
    and I was unhappy as to Egwene's fate - but it's not clear that was Sanderson or Jim's notes.

    Mat's personality changed in his subplot. He tried too hard to be funny. The old Mat was ironically funny without trying.

    But I think he'd be a hard character to imitate, so I don't blame Sanderson for that.

    The sacrifice of Egwene made logical sense to me. Everything she did was whole-hearted: Wisdom, Aes-Sedai, Amryllian. She did exactly what the Amryllian should do at the end of the world, fighting Forsaken. It also was perfectly foreshadowed in the
    ancient queen who sacrificed herself to stop a Trolloc attack.

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