• Re: tGS Chapter 23 (spoilers)

    From Timothy Bruening@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 22 10:57:54 2022
    On Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 7:51:21 AM UTC-8, davidl303 wrote:
    How come Min still had bruises on her neck after Rand BF'ed Semirhage? Shouldn't it have rewound time enough so that he never strangled her?

    the bruises were caused by Rand i would assume the only way they would
    be gone is if he was BF'ed
    I did notice however that when they where questioning Semi at one
    point they covered her eyes and ears with the one power while Cadsuane
    & friends had a chat. Going back to the questioning it says they
    remove the weaves from her eyes but leave the shield blocking her ears
    and then start to ask her questions??? (page 110 )
    Also another error in the book when Mat heads into the loopy town he
    assigns 3 redarms to guard the Aes Sedai and 2 stay with him when he
    goes off to gamble. When they meet up later the 3 redarm guards are
    never mentioned again.

    They might have died and this joined the Hinderstap population! Mat's band then forgot about them.

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  • From Timothy Bruening@21:1/5 to maj on Sun May 22 11:00:26 2022
    On Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 5:22:06 AM UTC-8, maj wrote:
    On Nov 19, 5:18 am, "pbow...@aol.com" <pbow...@aol.com> wrote:
    On 4 Nov, 02:32, maj <maj1c1a...@iprimus.com.au> wrote:



    On Nov 4, 2:51 am, davidl303 <davidl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    How come Min still had bruises on her neck after Rand BF'ed Semirhage?
    Shouldn't it have rewound time enough so that he never strangled her?

    the bruises were caused by Rand i would assume the only way they would be gone is if he was BF'ed

    I did notice however that when they where questioning Semi at one
    point they covered her eyes and ears with the one power while Cadsuane & friends had a chat. Going back to the questioning it says they
    remove the weaves from her eyes but leave the shield blocking her ears and then start to ask her questions??? (page 110 )

    Also another error in the book when Mat heads into the loopy town he assigns 3 redarms to guard the Aes Sedai and 2 stay with him when he goes off to gamble. When they meet up later the 3 redarm guards are never mentioned again.

    oh and definately think Asmo was killed by Lanfear.

    The most likely killer of Asmodean would have to be Sammael.

    F.O.H. c22 p365
    [Rand talks with Asmodean after the raid at Taien, Jangai Pass)
    "From what you've told me, he is not likely to want to face me unless
    he is sure of victory, and maybe not then.
    You said he'd likely leave me to the Dark One, if he could. So why is
    he sure he'll win now, if I decide to go after him?"

    F.O.H. c34 p500
    [Nynaeve & Birgitte spy on Moghedien & Forsaken in Tel'aran'rhoid]
    ". .. never been a coward," a plumply pretty, sun-haired woman
    (Graendal) was saying, "so why begin?"
    A compact man of middling height, with a livid scar across his face
    and a square golden beard, (Sammael) says
    "No one names me coward," he said harshly. "But if we continue as we
    are, he will come straight for my throat."
    [This is what he fears, that Rand will be too strong. p365]

    "That has been the plan from the beginning," said a woman's melodious voice. (Lanfear)

    The second man was large and darkly handsome, with white wings
    streaking his temples [Rahvin]. "He will
    concentrate on you," the big man said in a deep voice. "If need be,
    one close to him will die, plainly at your order.
    He will come for you. And while he is fixed on you alone, the three of us, linked, will take him.
    What has changed to alter any of that?"

    None of this seems to point to Sammael as the killer - if that plan
    were followed through, Rand would have to know that Asmodean had been killed by Sammael (and would have to care), so he'd have advertised
    it. Instead Rand thinks Asmodean's still alive.

    Phil
    Not sure of what plan you refer to, the strategy worked out with
    Rahvin & Graendal dosen't apply.
    What I wrote was that Sammy took out some insurance. He killed
    Asmo to stop his instruction of Rand so that his own experience
    with Saidin will keep him stronger than Rand.
    Sammy sees keeping Rand weak giving himself a greater chance of
    surviving the Rahvin & Graendal stratergy.
    Rand does not know if Asmo is dead or not because he felt no
    channeling & there was no body.

    So either the True Power or Saidar (Rand has to be very close to feel Saider!).

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  • From Timothy Bruening@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 6 03:33:50 2022
    On Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 7:51:21 AM UTC-8, davidl303 wrote:
    How come Min still had bruises on her neck after Rand BF'ed Semirhage? Shouldn't it have rewound time enough so that he never strangled her?

    the bruises were caused by Rand i would assume the only way they would
    be gone is if he was BF'ed

    The BFing of Semirhage should have erased her action of forcing Rand to choke Min, which should have erased the bruises!

    I did notice however that when they where questioning Semi at one
    point they covered her eyes and ears with the one power while Cadsuane
    & friends had a chat. Going back to the questioning it says they
    remove the weaves from her eyes but leave the shield blocking her ears
    and then start to ask her questions??? (page 110 )

    Sign language?

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