• Help a newbie, Best Anime Ever??

    From vidish.u@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 20 10:42:51 2020
    On Monday, May 20, 1996 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Kenji (in exile) wrote:
    mcglaughlin.4@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeremy McGlaughlin) wrote:
    I've just been introduced to anime and I was just curious as to the >opinions of the people that read this group. What would your vote for >"Best Anime" be? best animation, story, characters, machinery... Just >curious. I would think this might help me pick some titles out. Thanks >alot. Very much appreciated.

    Oh, you're a cruel, cruel man.

    Personally, I could just keep typing, but then I'd never be able to post.

    Uh, lessee... I'll pick one that scores high in all those categories, plus the categories of: portability, comprehensiveness, and empathy.
    (not neccessarily my most favorite)

    Kaze no Tani no Naushika (Nausicää of the Valley of Wind)

    Good animation, great story, great characters, interesting machinery, cross-cultural, understandable, and moving.

    The above review does not apply to the hatchet job known as "Warriors
    of the Wind."

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    _/ / ____/ / ____/ /
    /__/ /_____/ /_____/
    email: Yotsuya@oasis.novia.net *_*

    i agree

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to vidish.u@gmail.com on Wed May 20 12:54:17 2020
    On 5/20/20 10:42 AM, vidish.u@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, May 20, 1996 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Kenji (in exile) wrote:
    mcglaughlin.4@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeremy McGlaughlin) wrote:
    I've just been introduced to anime and I was just curious as to the
    opinions of the people that read this group. What would your vote for
    "Best Anime" be? best animation, story, characters, machinery... Just
    curious. I would think this might help me pick some titles out. Thanks >>> alot. Very much appreciated.

    Oh, you're a cruel, cruel man.

    Personally, I could just keep typing, but then I'd never be able to post.

    Uh, lessee... I'll pick one that scores high in all those categories, plus >> the categories of: portability, comprehensiveness, and empathy.
    (not neccessarily my most favorite)

    Kaze no Tani no Naushika (Nausicää of the Valley of Wind)

    Good animation, great story, great characters, interesting machinery,
    cross-cultural, understandable, and moving.

    The above review does not apply to the hatchet job known as "Warriors
    of the Wind."

    __ _ _
    / /______ __ ___ __////
    __/ __ ___/ ___ / / /__/ / /
    /___/ / / /__/ / / /__/ / /
    _/ / ____/ / ____/ /
    /__/ /_____/ /_____/
    email: Yotsuya@oasis.novia.net *_*

    i agree


    There you are dredging up ancient posts.
    I have seen Nausicaa and I think the TV series are better in "Genshiken" and in "Yawara a fashionable Judo girl".
    Myazaki's concern for the environment is admirable but may
    oversell which which considering the audiences is no wonder.

    bliss
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    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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  • From T987654321@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 22 12:37:55 2020
    The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release).
    Akira (If you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I have no idea after multiple viewings)

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  • From Nick Roberts@21:1/5 to qwrtz123@gmail.com on Sat May 23 16:43:37 2020
    In message <508257dc-e659-4098-864e-b82bf7d903ea@googlegroups.com>
    T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:

    The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira (If
    you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I have no
    idea after multiple viewings)

    "Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as the
    best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to time.

    And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions in
    my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong candidate
    for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".

    --
    Nick Roberts tigger @ orpheusinternet.co.uk

    Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which
    can be adequately explained by stupidity.

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Nick Roberts on Sat May 23 09:45:39 2020
    On 5/23/20 8:43 AM, Nick Roberts wrote:

    In message <508257dc-e659-4098-864e-b82bf7d903ea@googlegroups.com>
    T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:

    The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira (If
    you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I have no
    idea after multiple viewings)

    "Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as the
    best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to time.

    And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions in
    my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong candidate
    for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".



    What would have been your opinion in 1999 which is the date
    of the post the poster is replying to? Personally I was not into
    anime and manga at the time and while i had seen the manga cover
    of Akira while in the San Francisco Nihon Machi i had no idea what
    it was about. I do know it is an apocalyptic sort of dystopia
    setting but I have never read the manga or watched the anime because
    I have read enough Science Fiction and Speulation fiction novels with
    dystopian setting and nihilistic protagonists,

    I really like Yawara but isn't subjecting a 5 year old to
    judo training and controling the school child's life as her grandfather
    does amount to child abuse? Stiil enjoy the bouts and the rest of it
    but the question is always nagging away.

    I know that the reason I like Genshiken is because there were no
    such clubs (afaik) while i was growing up. If there had been they would
    not have been permitted such free form activites but we would have been
    made to study and submit drawings of our own.

    Also I really liked Maison Ikkoku but it should have had a good anime movie. Maybe expanding on the profession of the peeping tom but
    maybe Takahashi Rumiko could not think of what he might be doing except
    cutting bond coupons. People wrote fan fiction then that turned Godai
    into a drunk and Kyoko kicked him out as disaster enveloped that
    fictional world.

    As I say the poster is replying to a post that is now old enough
    to vote. I wonder if Vidish.u is paying any attention to our replies
    and Vidish don't be embarrassed, many of us have done the same.

    bliss - who marks about 15 years of anime and manga study and enjoyment.

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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  • From vidish.u@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Bobbie Sellers on Sat May 23 11:53:05 2020
    On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 12:45:41 PM UTC-4, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 5/23/20 8:43 AM, Nick Roberts wrote:

    In message <508257dc-e659-4098-864e-b82bf7d903ea@googlegroups.com>
    T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:

    The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira (If
    you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I have no
    idea after multiple viewings)

    "Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as the
    best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to time.

    And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions in
    my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong candidate
    for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".



    What would have been your opinion in 1999 which is the date
    of the post the poster is replying to? Personally I was not into
    anime and manga at the time and while i had seen the manga cover
    of Akira while in the San Francisco Nihon Machi i had no idea what
    it was about. I do know it is an apocalyptic sort of dystopia
    setting but I have never read the manga or watched the anime because
    I have read enough Science Fiction and Speulation fiction novels with dystopian setting and nihilistic protagonists,

    I really like Yawara but isn't subjecting a 5 year old to
    judo training and controling the school child's life as her grandfather
    does amount to child abuse? Stiil enjoy the bouts and the rest of it
    but the question is always nagging away.

    I know that the reason I like Genshiken is because there were no
    such clubs (afaik) while i was growing up. If there had been they would
    not have been permitted such free form activites but we would have been
    made to study and submit drawings of our own.

    Also I really liked Maison Ikkoku but it should have had a good anime movie. Maybe expanding on the profession of the peeping tom but
    maybe Takahashi Rumiko could not think of what he might be doing except cutting bond coupons. People wrote fan fiction then that turned Godai
    into a drunk and Kyoko kicked him out as disaster enveloped that
    fictional world.

    As I say the poster is replying to a post that is now old enough
    to vote. I wonder if Vidish.u is paying any attention to our replies
    and Vidish don't be embarrassed, many of us have done the same.

    bliss - who marks about 15 years of anime and manga study and enjoyment.

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

    honestly yeah so curious to see if i get a reply. Ive found post in 1992 and im just super curious as to what was going on then.

    Im 22, so yeah i guess its an age thing

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to vidish.u@gmail.com on Sat May 23 13:20:33 2020
    On 5/23/20 11:53 AM, vidish.u@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 12:45:41 PM UTC-4, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 5/23/20 8:43 AM, Nick Roberts wrote:

    In message <508257dc-e659-4098-864e-b82bf7d903ea@googlegroups.com>
    T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:

    The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira (If
    you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I have no
    idea after multiple viewings)

    "Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as the
    best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to time.

    And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions in
    my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong candidate
    for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".



    What would have been your opinion in 1999 which is the date
    of the post the poster is replying to? Personally I was not into
    anime and manga at the time and while i had seen the manga cover
    of Akira while in the San Francisco Nihon Machi i had no idea what
    it was about. I do know it is an apocalyptic sort of dystopia
    setting but I have never read the manga or watched the anime because
    I have read enough Science Fiction and Speulation fiction novels with
    dystopian setting and nihilistic protagonists,

    I really like Yawara but isn't subjecting a 5 year old to
    judo training and controling the school child's life as her grandfather
    does amount to child abuse? Stiil enjoy the bouts and the rest of it
    but the question is always nagging away.

    I know that the reason I like Genshiken is because there were no
    such clubs (afaik) while i was growing up. If there had been they would
    not have been permitted such free form activites but we would have been
    made to study and submit drawings of our own.

    Also I really liked Maison Ikkoku but it should have had a good anime >> movie. Maybe expanding on the profession of the peeping tom but
    maybe Takahashi Rumiko could not think of what he might be doing except
    cutting bond coupons. People wrote fan fiction then that turned Godai
    into a drunk and Kyoko kicked him out as disaster enveloped that
    fictional world.

    As I say the poster is replying to a post that is now old enough
    to vote. I wonder if Vidish.u is paying any attention to our replies
    and Vidish don't be embarrassed, many of us have done the same.

    bliss - who marks about 15 years of anime and manga study and
    enjoyment.

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

    honestly yeah so curious to see if i get a reply. Ive found post in 1992 . and im just super curious as to what was going on then
    Im 22, so yeah i guess its an age thing

    Hey if you are in the USA you are old enough to vote too.

    A lot more in Usenet was going on then than presently. I read
    this Newsgroup for about a year as I was watching rented VCR tapes then
    when I could not finish the MI series referenced above i bought my first
    DVD player so that I could buy the series as it was released on DVD.

    Because the VCR tapes of the anime had been retired I bought
    my first manga of Maison Ikkoku to find out what happened to the main characters, I laughed so hard reading the volume where the tennis coach
    finds out he has promised to marry a girl whose bitch was made pregnant
    by his dog, that I missed my stop and had to walk quite a ways back.

    A great resource of those early days was this:The Anime Primer, or "What Anime Should I Watch Now ... <https://robkelk.ottawa-anime.org/primer/index.html>
    The Primer used to be published here in text format but it
    can still be read online.

    Good watching Vidish!

    bliss - Usenet it the original social media for people who share interests.

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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  • From anthony.baranyi@bell.net@21:1/5 to Bobbie Sellers on Sat May 23 17:16:52 2020
    On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 4:20:43 PM UTC-4, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 5/23/20 11:53 AM, vidish.u@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 12:45:41 PM UTC-4, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 5/23/20 8:43 AM, Nick Roberts wrote:

    In message <508257dc-e659-4098-864e-b82bf7d903ea@googlegroups.com>
    T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:

    The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira (If
    you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I have no >>>> idea after multiple viewings)

    "Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as the
    best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to time.

    And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions in
    my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong candidate
    for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".



    What would have been your opinion in 1999 which is the date
    of the post the poster is replying to? Personally I was not into
    anime and manga at the time and while i had seen the manga cover
    of Akira while in the San Francisco Nihon Machi i had no idea what
    it was about. I do know it is an apocalyptic sort of dystopia
    setting but I have never read the manga or watched the anime because
    I have read enough Science Fiction and Speulation fiction novels with
    dystopian setting and nihilistic protagonists,

    I really like Yawara but isn't subjecting a 5 year old to
    judo training and controling the school child's life as her grandfather
    does amount to child abuse? Stiil enjoy the bouts and the rest of it
    but the question is always nagging away.

    I know that the reason I like Genshiken is because there were no
    such clubs (afaik) while i was growing up. If there had been they would >> not have been permitted such free form activites but we would have been
    made to study and submit drawings of our own.

    Also I really liked Maison Ikkoku but it should have had a good anime >> movie. Maybe expanding on the profession of the peeping tom but
    maybe Takahashi Rumiko could not think of what he might be doing except
    cutting bond coupons. People wrote fan fiction then that turned Godai
    into a drunk and Kyoko kicked him out as disaster enveloped that
    fictional world.

    As I say the poster is replying to a post that is now old enough
    to vote. I wonder if Vidish.u is paying any attention to our replies
    and Vidish don't be embarrassed, many of us have done the same.

    bliss - who marks about 15 years of anime and manga study and
    enjoyment.

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

    honestly yeah so curious to see if i get a reply. Ive found post in 1992 . and im just super curious as to what was going on then
    Im 22, so yeah i guess its an age thing

    Hey if you are in the USA you are old enough to vote too.

    A lot more in Usenet was going on then than presently. I read
    this Newsgroup for about a year as I was watching rented VCR tapes then
    when I could not finish the MI series referenced above i bought my first
    DVD player so that I could buy the series as it was released on DVD.

    Because the VCR tapes of the anime had been retired I bought
    my first manga of Maison Ikkoku to find out what happened to the main characters, I laughed so hard reading the volume where the tennis coach finds out he has promised to marry a girl whose bitch was made pregnant
    by his dog, that I missed my stop and had to walk quite a ways back.

    A great resource of those early days was this:The Anime Primer, or "What Anime Should I Watch Now ... <https://robkelk.ottawa-anime.org/primer/index.html>
    The Primer used to be published here in text format but it
    can still be read online.

    Good watching Vidish!

    bliss - Usenet the original social media for people who share interests.

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

    1996 was the year I started to watch anime. I "fell in love" with Urusei Yatsura and spent a couple of years hunting down all of the episodes, movies and OAVs. While doing that hunting I started to swap tapes of TV shows for tapes of anime with a girl in
    Japan. (We did that for six years.) She was studying English and I was learning Japanese. Her tapes got me into Meitantei Conan, which started in 1996, is still running today, and I still watch it some 24 years later.

    During those 24 years I've watched a couple of thousand anime series, movies and OAVs. There are dozens that I love and will re-watch multiple times when I have the urge to do so. There are hundreds more that I have on Laser Disc, DVD and Blu-ray that I
    intend to re-watch at some date.

    The "Best"? There is no such thing. But "My Favourite" is still UY.

    Dave Baranyi

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to anthony.baranyi@bell.net on Sat May 23 18:51:43 2020
    On 5/23/20 5:16 PM, anthony.baranyi@bell.net wrote:
    On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 4:20:43 PM UTC-4, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 5/23/20 11:53 AM, vidish.u@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 12:45:41 PM UTC-4, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 5/23/20 8:43 AM, Nick Roberts wrote:

    In message <508257dc-e659-4098-864e-b82bf7d903ea@googlegroups.com>
    T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:

    The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira (If >>>>>> you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I have no >>>>>> idea after multiple viewings)

    "Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as the >>>>> best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to time. >>>>>
    And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions in >>>>> my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong candidate >>>>> for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".



    What would have been your opinion in 1999 which is the date
    of the post the poster is replying to? Personally I was not into
    anime and manga at the time and while i had seen the manga cover
    of Akira while in the San Francisco Nihon Machi i had no idea what
    it was about. I do know it is an apocalyptic sort of dystopia
    setting but I have never read the manga or watched the anime because
    I have read enough Science Fiction and Speulation fiction novels with
    dystopian setting and nihilistic protagonists,

    I really like Yawara but isn't subjecting a 5 year old to
    judo training and controling the school child's life as her grandfather >>>> does amount to child abuse? Stiil enjoy the bouts and the rest of it
    but the question is always nagging away.

    I know that the reason I like Genshiken is because there were no
    such clubs (afaik) while i was growing up. If there had been they would >>>> not have been permitted such free form activites but we would have been >>>> made to study and submit drawings of our own.

    Also I really liked Maison Ikkoku but it should have had a good anime >>>> movie. Maybe expanding on the profession of the peeping tom but
    maybe Takahashi Rumiko could not think of what he might be doing except >>>> cutting bond coupons. People wrote fan fiction then that turned Godai >>>> into a drunk and Kyoko kicked him out as disaster enveloped that
    fictional world.

    As I say the poster is replying to a post that is now old enough
    to vote. I wonder if Vidish.u is paying any attention to our replies
    and Vidish don't be embarrassed, many of us have done the same.

    bliss - who marks about 15 years of anime and manga study and
    enjoyment.

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

    honestly yeah so curious to see if i get a reply. Ive found post in 1992 . >>> and im just super curious as to what was going on then
    Im 22, so yeah i guess its an age thing

    Hey if you are in the USA you are old enough to vote too.

    A lot more in Usenet was going on then than presently. I read
    this Newsgroup for about a year as I was watching rented VCR tapes then
    when I could not finish the MI series referenced above i bought my first
    DVD player so that I could buy the series as it was released on DVD.

    Because the VCR tapes of the anime had been retired I bought
    my first manga of Maison Ikkoku to find out what happened to the main
    characters, I laughed so hard reading the volume where the tennis coach
    finds out he has promised to marry a girl whose bitch was made pregnant
    by his dog, that I missed my stop and had to walk quite a ways back.

    A great resource of those early days was this:The Anime Primer, or
    "What Anime Should I Watch Now ...
    <https://robkelk.ottawa-anime.org/primer/index.html>
    The Primer used to be published here in text format but it
    can still be read online.

    Good watching Vidish!

    bliss - Usenet the original social media for people who share interests.

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

    1996 was the year I started to watch anime. I "fell in love" with Urusei Yatsura and spent a couple of years hunting down all of the episodes, movies and OAVs. While doing that hunting I started to swap tapes of TV shows for tapes of anime with a girl
    in Japan. (We did that for six years.) She was studying English and I was learning Japanese. Her tapes got me into Meitantei Conan, which started in 1996, is still running today, and I still watch it some 24 years later.

    During those 24 years I've watched a couple of thousand anime series, movies and OAVs. There are dozens that I love and will re-watch multiple times when I have the urge to do so. There are hundreds more that I have on Laser Disc, DVD and Blu-ray that
    I intend to re-watch at some date.

    The "Best"? There is no such thing. But "My Favourite" is still UY.

    Dave Baranyi



    And how old were you in '96, Dave?
    If you were young then that is the cause of the continued
    choice of UY.
    I read a Batman comic when I was very young and he wore 2
    automatic pistols but the mothers of America decided that a vigilante
    gunman was not desirable and the publishers made the artists change
    the character. Bats became a devoted defender of human life and his
    most regretted failing later on were when he failed at that, both
    with his son Damian and his great enemy Joker. But because I
    started young with Bats, I still follow his and his cohorts today.
    I leave it to the SFPL to pay $19.95 and up for the publication
    in which he appears and I just borrow them. It is astonishing to me
    that SFPL essentially is buying comic books which when I was young
    would never have been considered.
    With manga I try to buy the interesting series. And for a very
    few series in anime I do the same.

    bliss

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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  • From anthony.baranyi@bell.net@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 23 19:39:32 2020
    (Clipping to keep things manageable...)


    1996 was the year I started to watch anime. I "fell in love" with Urusei Yatsura and spent a couple of years hunting down all of the episodes, movies and OAVs. While doing that hunting I started to swap tapes of TV shows for tapes of anime with a
    girl in Japan. (We did that for six years.) She was studying English and I was learning Japanese. Her tapes got me into Meitantei Conan, which started in 1996, is still running today, and I still watch it some 24 years later.

    During those 24 years I've watched a couple of thousand anime series, movies and OAVs. There are dozens that I love and will re-watch multiple times when I have the urge to do so. There are hundreds more that I have on Laser Disc, DVD and Blu-ray
    that I intend to re-watch at some date.

    The "Best"? There is no such thing. But "My Favourite" is still UY.

    Dave Baranyi



    And how old were you in '96, Dave?
    If you were young then that is the cause of the continued
    choice of UY.
    I read a Batman comic when I was very young and he wore 2
    automatic pistols but the mothers of America decided that a vigilante
    gunman was not desirable and the publishers made the artists change
    the character. Bats became a devoted defender of human life and his
    most regretted failing later on were when he failed at that, both
    with his son Damian and his great enemy Joker. But because I
    started young with Bats, I still follow his and his cohorts today.
    I leave it to the SFPL to pay $19.95 and up for the publication
    in which he appears and I just borrow them. It is astonishing to me
    that SFPL essentially is buying comic books which when I was young
    would never have been considered.
    With manga I try to buy the interesting series. And for a very
    few series in anime I do the same.

    bliss

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

    In 1996 I was 45 years old. When I was a little kid I was influenced by "Pinocchio", "The Thief of Bagdad" (1940 version) and most of all, "Fantasia", and in particular Mickey Mouse as the Sorcerer's Apprentice. That was always my secret reason for
    wanting to be, and becoming, a scientist. LOL (Ph.D., Inorganic Chemistry, McGill University, Montreal, 1976)

    Dave Baranyi

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  • From vidish.u@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Jeremy McGlaughlin on Sat May 23 22:49:47 2020
    On Monday, May 20, 1996 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Jeremy McGlaughlin wrote:
    I've just been introduced to anime and I was just curious as to the
    opinions of the people that read this group. What would your vote for
    "Best Anime" be? best animation, story, characters, machinery... Just curious. I would think this might help me pick some titles out. Thanks alot. Very much appreciated.

    Jeremy McGlaughlin

    i have a degree in pharmaceutical chem

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  • From vidish.u@gmail.com@21:1/5 to anthony...@bell.net on Sat May 23 22:50:28 2020
    On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 10:39:34 PM UTC-4, anthony...@bell.net wrote:
    (Clipping to keep things manageable...)


    1996 was the year I started to watch anime. I "fell in love" with Urusei Yatsura and spent a couple of years hunting down all of the episodes, movies and OAVs. While doing that hunting I started to swap tapes of TV shows for tapes of anime with a
    girl in Japan. (We did that for six years.) She was studying English and I was learning Japanese. Her tapes got me into Meitantei Conan, which started in 1996, is still running today, and I still watch it some 24 years later.

    During those 24 years I've watched a couple of thousand anime series, movies and OAVs. There are dozens that I love and will re-watch multiple times when I have the urge to do so. There are hundreds more that I have on Laser Disc, DVD and Blu-ray
    that I intend to re-watch at some date.

    The "Best"? There is no such thing. But "My Favourite" is still UY.

    Dave Baranyi



    And how old were you in '96, Dave?
    If you were young then that is the cause of the continued
    choice of UY.
    I read a Batman comic when I was very young and he wore 2
    automatic pistols but the mothers of America decided that a vigilante gunman was not desirable and the publishers made the artists change
    the character. Bats became a devoted defender of human life and his
    most regretted failing later on were when he failed at that, both
    with his son Damian and his great enemy Joker. But because I
    started young with Bats, I still follow his and his cohorts today.
    I leave it to the SFPL to pay $19.95 and up for the publication
    in which he appears and I just borrow them. It is astonishing to me
    that SFPL essentially is buying comic books which when I was young
    would never have been considered.
    With manga I try to buy the interesting series. And for a very
    few series in anime I do the same.

    bliss

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

    In 1996 I was 45 years old. When I was a little kid I was influenced by "Pinocchio", "The Thief of Bagdad" (1940 version) and most of all, "Fantasia", and in particular Mickey Mouse as the Sorcerer's Apprentice. That was always my secret reason for
    wanting to be, and becoming, a scientist. LOL (Ph.D., Inorganic Chemistry, McGill University, Montreal, 1976)

    Dave Baranyi

    i have a degree in pharmaceutical chemistry (york uni)

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  • From Nick Roberts@21:1/5 to Bobbie Sellers on Tue May 26 19:07:55 2020
    In message <rabjvj$acf$1@dont-email.me>
    Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

    On 5/23/20 8:43 AM, Nick Roberts wrote:

    In message <508257dc-e659-4098-864e-b82bf7d903ea@googlegroups.com>
    T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:

    The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira
    (If you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I
    have no idea after multiple viewings)

    "Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as
    the best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to
    time.

    And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions
    in my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong
    candidate for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".



    What would have been your opinion in 1999 which is the date
    of the post the poster is replying to?

    I had observed that the parent post was archaic, but as it appeared to
    be reposted I thought it may have been worthwhile responding.

    As for my opinion in 1999 re GitS and Akira - pretty much the same as
    now. Except my opinion of Akira was, if anything, lower.

    Quoting a Best is still impossible, but for a few pre-1999 anime I rank
    very highly (and I think I've rewatched all of them within the last 5
    years, so they stand the test of time).

    Films (no implied order of preference here)
    - Perfect Blue
    - Kiki's Delivery Service
    - Nausicaa
    - Adolescence of Utena

    TV/OAV Series
    - Revolutionary Girl Utena
    - El Hazard (original)
    - Urusei Yatsura (OK, I haven't rewatched all of UY in the last 5
    years - there's just too many episodes...)
    - Vision of Escaflowne
    - Fancy Lala
    - Gunbuster
    - Kare Kano

    I was going to put in Voices Of A Distant Star and Noir but they both
    miss the millenium barrier

    bliss - who marks about 15 years of anime and manga study and enjoyment.

    Nick - who marks so many years of anime that a significant proportion
    of readers may not have been born when I started. A lot of stuff I
    watched in the early days were commercial or fansubbed VHS (DVD hadn't
    been invented).

    --
    Nick Roberts tigger @ orpheusinternet.co.uk

    Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which
    can be adequately explained by stupidity.

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  • From anthony.baranyi@bell.net@21:1/5 to Nick Roberts on Tue May 26 18:13:29 2020
    On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 2:08:16 PM UTC-4, Nick Roberts wrote:
    In message <rabjvj$acf$1@dont-email.me>
    Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

    On 5/23/20 8:43 AM, Nick Roberts wrote:

    In message <508257dc-e659-4098-864e-b82bf7d903ea@googlegroups.com>
    T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:

    The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira
    (If you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I
    have no idea after multiple viewings)

    "Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as
    the best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to
    time.

    And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions
    in my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong
    candidate for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".



    What would have been your opinion in 1999 which is the date
    of the post the poster is replying to?

    I had observed that the parent post was archaic, but as it appeared to
    be reposted I thought it may have been worthwhile responding.

    As for my opinion in 1999 re GitS and Akira - pretty much the same as
    now. Except my opinion of Akira was, if anything, lower.

    Quoting a Best is still impossible, but for a few pre-1999 anime I rank
    very highly (and I think I've rewatched all of them within the last 5
    years, so they stand the test of time).

    Films (no implied order of preference here)
    - Perfect Blue
    - Kiki's Delivery Service
    - Nausicaa
    - Adolescence of Utena

    TV/OAV Series
    - Revolutionary Girl Utena
    - El Hazard (original)
    - Urusei Yatsura (OK, I haven't rewatched all of UY in the last 5
    years - there's just too many episodes...)
    - Vision of Escaflowne
    - Fancy Lala
    - Gunbuster
    - Kare Kano

    I was going to put in Voices Of A Distant Star and Noir but they both
    miss the millenium barrier

    bliss - who marks about 15 years of anime and manga study and enjoyment.

    Nick - who marks so many years of anime that a significant proportion
    of readers may not have been born when I started. A lot of stuff I
    watched in the early days were commercial or fansubbed VHS (DVD hadn't
    been invented).

    --
    Nick Roberts tigger @ orpheusinternet.co.uk

    Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which
    can be adequately explained by stupidity.

    The original El Hazard OAV series is one of my all-time favourites. I re-watched it again last year and it still engages me.

    I keep on telling myself to re-watch Kare Kano. I've got the original Japanese Laser Discs and my LD player still works, so I don't have any excuse... LOL

    I haven't thought about Noir in a long time. (I've got it on Japanese R2 DVDs). I ought to re-watch that too...

    So many shows...

    Dave Baranyi

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to anthony.baranyi@bell.net on Tue May 26 18:45:05 2020
    On 5/26/20 6:13 PM, anthony.baranyi@bell.net wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 2:08:16 PM UTC-4, Nick Roberts wrote:
    In message <rabjvj$acf$1@dont-email.me>
    Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

    On 5/23/20 8:43 AM, Nick Roberts wrote:

    In message <508257dc-e659-4098-864e-b82bf7d903ea@googlegroups.com>
    T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:

    The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira
    (If you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I
    have no idea after multiple viewings)

    "Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as
    the best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to
    time.

    And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions
    in my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong
    candidate for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".



    What would have been your opinion in 1999 which is the date
    of the post the poster is replying to?

    I had observed that the parent post was archaic, but as it appeared to
    be reposted I thought it may have been worthwhile responding.

    As for my opinion in 1999 re GitS and Akira - pretty much the same as
    now. Except my opinion of Akira was, if anything, lower.

    Quoting a Best is still impossible, but for a few pre-1999 anime I rank
    very highly (and I think I've rewatched all of them within the last 5
    years, so they stand the test of time).

    Films (no implied order of preference here)
    - Perfect Blue
    - Kiki's Delivery Service
    - Nausicaa
    - Adolescence of Utena

    TV/OAV Series
    - Revolutionary Girl Utena
    - El Hazard (original)
    - Urusei Yatsura (OK, I haven't rewatched all of UY in the last 5
    years - there's just too many episodes...)
    - Vision of Escaflowne
    - Fancy Lala
    - Gunbuster
    - Kare Kano

    I was going to put in Voices Of A Distant Star and Noir but they both
    miss the millenium barrier

    bliss - who marks about 15 years of anime and manga study and
    enjoyment.

    Nick - who marks so many years of anime that a significant proportion
    of readers may not have been born when I started. A lot of stuff I
    watched in the early days were commercial or fansubbed VHS (DVD hadn't
    been invented).

    --
    Nick Roberts tigger @ orpheusinternet.co.uk

    Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which
    can be adequately explained by stupidity.

    The original El Hazard OAV series is one of my all-time favourites. I re-watched it again last year and it still engages me.

    I keep on telling myself to re-watch Kare Kano. I've got the original Japanese Laser Discs and my LD player still works, so I don't have any excuse... LOL

    A beautiful beginning but it falls apart. Anime got ahead of the manga and producer freaked out.
    Manga has the real finish and it is an sad, sad story.

    I haven't thought about Noir in a long time. (I've got it on Japanese R2 DVDs). I ought to re-watch that too...

    So many shows...

    Dave Baranyi


    Kare Kano should be re-visted but better shows about similar characters are all over the place. A bad marriage or affair by the
    hero's father is the problem at the root of the insecurities of the son.
    If I remember correctly father is a pianist who works abroad rather
    than be subjected to the exactions of the bad woman who birthed his
    son. The father resolves the situation in the most violent way when
    he briefly returns to Japan.

    So I haven't spoiled the details. Remember though that First
    Loves are usually unhappy as a rule.

    bliss

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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