• Netflix censores Kimetsu no Yaiba

    From Arne Luft@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 15 23:03:25 2021
    A South Korean group claims that the Japanese flag with the rising sun
    is a sign of Japan's aggressive past, much like the swastika is one of Germany's.

    In Kimetsu no Yaiba, Tanjiro wears earrings that resemble this
    Japanese flag.

    Netflix has now given in to the campaign and replaced the original
    earrings with modified ones that no longer resemble the Japanese flag
    in question.



    I suspect something similar is likely to happen to history, as we know
    it, in the near future. Mainland Chinese scholars claim that Western
    history is a mere invention to harm China. 500 years ago there was no
    western history, they say and the pyramids etc. were built by the
    colonial powers 200 years ago to create the appearance of a
    civilization that was thousands of years old. Everything has it's real
    origin in China, and the westerners want to hide this, they claim.

    I think, it's just a question of time, when these campaigns will
    start.



    The Taiwanese are different. Taiwan was the country with the most less
    censored animes, as it came to Ishuzoku Reviewers. They only joined
    the rest of the world when the censorship started to become more
    intense.

    Perhaps that is also the reason why the population in Taiwan has only
    been shrinking since the beginning of this year, while in Japan it has
    been the case for much longer.

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  • From David Johnston@21:1/5 to Arne Luft on Wed Mar 17 11:22:55 2021
    On 2021-03-15 4:03 p.m., Arne Luft wrote:

    A South Korean group claims that the Japanese flag with the rising sun
    is a sign of Japan's aggressive past, much like the swastika is one of Germany's.

    In Kimetsu no Yaiba, Tanjiro wears earrings that resemble this
    Japanese flag.

    Netflix has now given in to the campaign and replaced the original
    earrings with modified ones that no longer resemble the Japanese flag
    in question.



    I suspect something similar is likely to happen to history, as we know
    it, in the near future. Mainland Chinese scholars claim that Western
    history is a mere invention to harm China. 500 years ago there was no
    western history, they say and the pyramids etc. were built by the
    colonial powers 200 years ago to create the appearance of a
    civilization that was thousands of years old. Everything has it's real
    origin in China, and the westerners want to hide this, they claim.

    <snort> While there is one loony professor in China who claims that I seriously doubt it's the general academic consensus there.

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to David Johnston on Wed Mar 17 10:54:33 2021
    On 3/17/21 10:22 AM, David Johnston wrote:
    On 2021-03-15 4:03 p.m., Arne Luft wrote:

    A South Korean group claims that the Japanese flag with the rising sun
    is a sign of Japan's aggressive past, much like the swastika is one of
    Germany's.

    In Kimetsu no Yaiba, Tanjiro wears earrings that resemble this
    Japanese flag.

    Netflix has now given in to the campaign and replaced the original
    earrings with modified ones that no longer resemble the Japanese flag
    in question.



    I suspect something similar is likely to happen to history, as we know
    it, in the near future. Mainland Chinese scholars claim that Western
    history is a mere invention to harm China. 500 years ago there was no
    western history, they say and the pyramids etc. were built by the
    colonial powers 200 years ago to create the appearance of a
    civilization that was thousands of years old. Everything has it's real
    origin in China, and the westerners want to hide this, they claim.

    <snort>  While there is one loony professor in China who claims that I seriously doubt it's the general academic consensus there.

    Well that is a weight off my mind. How can civilization move forward if it denies where it has been?
    Do Western History and Western Civilization claim the Pyramids
    of Egypt? I think rather they marvel that the ancients whose built them managed to do so without modern tools.
    Egyptian and Modern Civilizations have few connections, They
    were Sun Worshipers of course, like many ancient people but they did
    have a God who died and whose Wife resurrected Him, then had a child
    by him to replace the old, damaged by death, Sun God. The Pharaoh,
    the Ruler. was said to be the presence of the Sun God on Earth.
    We had sun worship in the Ancient America's and if the Japanese
    are telling the truth so did they. But they had a Sun Goddess and the
    eventual Imperial Line were Her descendants. I think that the Chinese
    had advanced to ancestor worship fairly early. Then there are the
    pantheons (archetypal examples) for humanity to satisfy or defy.

    Now if various religions had not chosen to burn the Library
    at Alexandria we would have the books to prove it. Probably still
    enough remains to prove a case but the Chinese were really into
    family records in a religious way and know which ancestors were notable
    and which got by.

    bliss

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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  • From Arne Luft@21:1/5 to davidjohnston29@yahoo.com on Thu Mar 18 01:45:33 2021
    On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 11:22:55 -0600, David Johnston
    <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 2021-03-15 4:03 p.m., Arne Luft wrote:


    I suspect something similar is likely to happen to history, as we know
    it, in the near future. Mainland Chinese scholars claim that Western
    history is a mere invention to harm China. 500 years ago there was no
    western history, they say and the pyramids etc. were built by the
    colonial powers 200 years ago to create the appearance of a
    civilization that was thousands of years old. Everything has it's real
    origin in China, and the westerners want to hide this, they claim.

    <snort> While there is one loony professor in China who claims that I >seriously doubt it's the general academic consensus there.

    This is not an isolated incident. There are a lot of such people and
    ideas in Mainland China. And they are highly educated people.

    Example: The claim that English is actually a Chinese dialect.

    https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=44389

    "September 13, 2019
    ....
    Reporter: Professor Zhai, does English really come from ancient China?
    This really sounds unimaginable, because these are two completely
    different languages.

    Zhai Guiyun: Yes, English truly originated in ancient China. Many
    people teaching English in China have discovered that you can learn
    English using the so called “memorizing-through-association” method.
    Actually, it’s because so-called “ideographic” and “implied” meanings
    [of words] are very close in English and Chinese. The first to
    research this matter in a systematic way was Professor Li Guofang ???,
    from [Baishui ?? County, Shaanxi Province, purportedly] the hometown
    of Cang Jie ?? [the mythical creator of Chinese characters], who has
    studied this for more than 20 years and discovered that the
    ideographic and implied meanings of English words, and even their pronunciation, are the same or close to Chinese. For example:

    Yellow: It is the color of fallen leaves [yèluò ??] in autumn, in
    English the pronunciation is almost “yeluo (-lu)”.

    Shop: In English the pronunciation is basically that of Chinese
    shangpù ?? [‘shop’].

    Heart, head: These are people’s most core [héxin ??] organs, so the
    English pronunciation directly takes its meaning from Chinese: the
    core’s [hé de ??]… just slightly changing the sound."


    PS: The question marks are put in place of Chinese characters by the
    Forte Agent.



    That is Mainland China since 3500 years. There is only one sun on
    heaven, and this is China.

    I hope that the impact on science, anime and culture isn't as mean, as
    it looks, how it could be, after i.e. Hollywood has fallen on its
    knees before the Emperor of the China, the representative of the Sun
    on earth.

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  • From Nick Roberts@21:1/5 to Arne Luft on Thu Mar 18 18:38:12 2021
    In message <i1755g5ifoe0hhn8p6h7d8kano8ho0olv3@4ax.com>
    Arne Luft <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 11:22:55 -0600, David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 2021-03-15 4:03 p.m., Arne Luft wrote:


    I suspect something similar is likely to happen to history, as we
    know it, in the near future. Mainland Chinese scholars claim that
    Western history is a mere invention to harm China. 500 years ago
    there was no western history, they say and the pyramids etc. were
    built by the colonial powers 200 years ago to create the
    appearance of a civilization that was thousands of years old.
    Everything has it's real origin in China, and the westerners want
    to hide this, they claim.

    <snort> While there is one loony professor in China who claims
    that I seriously doubt it's the general academic consensus there.

    This is not an isolated incident. There are a lot of such people and
    ideas in Mainland China. And they are highly educated people.

    Example: The claim that English is actually a Chinese dialect.

    https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=44389

    "September 13, 2019 ....
    Reporter: Professor Zhai, does English
    really come from ancient China? This really sounds unimaginable,
    because these are two completely different languages.

    Zhai Guiyun: Yes, English truly originated in ancient China. Many
    people teaching English in China have discovered that you can learn
    English using the so called ?memorizing-through-association? method. Actually, it?s because so-called ?ideographic? and ?implied? meanings
    [of words] are very close in English and Chinese. The first to
    research this matter in a systematic way was Professor Li Guofang ???,
    from [Baishui ?? County, Shaanxi Province, purportedly] the hometown
    of Cang Jie ?? [the mythical creator of Chinese characters], who has
    studied this for more than 20 years and discovered that the
    ideographic and implied meanings of English words, and even their pronunciation, are the same or close to Chinese. For example:

    Yellow: It is the color of fallen leaves [yèluò ??] in autumn, in
    English the pronunciation is almost ?yeluo (-lu)?.

    Shop: In English the pronunciation is basically that of Chinese
    shangpù ?? [?shop?].

    Heart, head: These are people?s most core [héxin ??] organs, so the
    English pronunciation directly takes its meaning from Chinese: the
    core?s [hé de ??]? just slightly changing the sound."

    So they are saying that Chinese is an Indo-European language?

    Or that Chinese pre-dated PIE?

    Either of those suggestions will come as something of a surprise to
    every academic historical linguist, probably followed by ROTFL.

    Rather more likely is that PIE and Proto-Sino-Tibetan borrowed some
    words from each other. But that doesn't chime so well with fanatical
    Chinese nationalism.

    --
    Nick Roberts tigger @ orpheusinternet.co.uk

    Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which
    can be adequately explained by stupidity.

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  • From Arne Luft@21:1/5 to tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk on Thu Mar 18 20:21:05 2021
    On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 18:38:12 GMT, Nick Roberts
    <tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:

    In message <i1755g5ifoe0hhn8p6h7d8kano8ho0olv3@4ax.com>
    Arne Luft <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 11:22:55 -0600, David Johnston
    <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 2021-03-15 4:03 p.m., Arne Luft wrote:


    I suspect something similar is likely to happen to history, as we
    know it, in the near future. Mainland Chinese scholars claim that
    Western history is a mere invention to harm China. 500 years ago
    there was no western history, they say and the pyramids etc. were
    built by the colonial powers 200 years ago to create the
    appearance of a civilization that was thousands of years old.
    Everything has it's real origin in China, and the westerners want
    to hide this, they claim.

    <snort> While there is one loony professor in China who claims
    that I seriously doubt it's the general academic consensus there.

    This is not an isolated incident. There are a lot of such people and
    ideas in Mainland China. And they are highly educated people.

    Example: The claim that English is actually a Chinese dialect.

    https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=44389

    "September 13, 2019 ....
    Reporter: Professor Zhai, does English
    really come from ancient China? This really sounds unimaginable,
    because these are two completely different languages.

    Zhai Guiyun: Yes, English truly originated in ancient China. Many
    people teaching English in China have discovered that you can learn
    English using the so called ?memorizing-through-association? method.
    Actually, it?s because so-called ?ideographic? and ?implied? meanings
    [of words] are very close in English and Chinese. The first to
    research this matter in a systematic way was Professor Li Guofang ???,
    from [Baishui ?? County, Shaanxi Province, purportedly] the hometown
    of Cang Jie ?? [the mythical creator of Chinese characters], who has
    studied this for more than 20 years and discovered that the
    ideographic and implied meanings of English words, and even their
    pronunciation, are the same or close to Chinese. For example:

    Yellow: It is the color of fallen leaves [yèluò ??] in autumn, in
    English the pronunciation is almost ?yeluo (-lu)?.

    Shop: In English the pronunciation is basically that of Chinese
    shangpù ?? [?shop?].

    Heart, head: These are people?s most core [héxin ??] organs, so the
    English pronunciation directly takes its meaning from Chinese: the
    core?s [hé de ??]? just slightly changing the sound."

    So they are saying that Chinese is an Indo-European language?

    No, it's the other way around.

    Or that Chinese pre-dated PIE?

    That is, what they really think.

    Either of those suggestions will come as something of a surprise to
    every academic historical linguist, probably followed by ROTFL.

    Rather more likely is that PIE and Proto-Sino-Tibetan borrowed some
    words from each other. But that doesn't chime so well with fanatical
    Chinese nationalism.

    They follow what is for them the irrefutable - but not proven by any
    means - premise: First China was there and then everyone else wrote
    off from them.

    The fact is, it was different. The Chinese learned a lot (i.e. how to
    make bronze and how to ride a horse) from the Indo-Aryans which lived
    around 2000 BC at the Tarim Basin. There are mummies of this men and
    women. The Chinese classified these blue-eyed blonde mummies as
    western devils when they were found in 1960 or so and that's why they disappeared in sheds and not in a museum in China.

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