• Re: xkcd: Flinch

    From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Wed Nov 10 18:45:16 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <smh3gr$c9d$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    xkcd: Flinch
    https://xkcd.com/2539/

    Oh yeah, I am with the ponytail engineer. Because we engineers have
    trust issues.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2539:_Flinch

    Hal (EECS) had the same reaction. :)

    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 10 12:37:12 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    xkcd: Flinch
    https://xkcd.com/2539/

    Oh yeah, I am with the ponytail engineer. Because we engineers have
    trust issues.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2539:_Flinch

    Lynn

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to Dorothy J Heydt on Wed Nov 10 16:57:08 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 11/10/21 1:45 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <smh3gr$c9d$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    xkcd: Flinch
    https://xkcd.com/2539/

    Oh yeah, I am with the ponytail engineer. Because we engineers have
    trust issues.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2539:_Flinch

    Hal (EECS) had the same reaction. :)

    As a computer programmer, I’d ensure that it was gaffed correctly, but
    it ought to be a pretty easy thing to eyeball-check. As an actor, I’d remember Stanislavski’s excellent chapter on relaxation.

    --
    John W. Kennedy
    Algernon Burbage, Lord Roderick, Father Martin, Bishop Baldwin,
    King Pellinore, Captain Bailey, Merlin -- A Kingdom for a Stage!

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  • From J. Clarke@21:1/5 to john.w.kennedy@gmail.com on Wed Nov 10 17:14:38 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 16:57:08 -0500, John W Kennedy
    <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/10/21 1:45 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <smh3gr$c9d$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    xkcd: Flinch
    https://xkcd.com/2539/

    Oh yeah, I am with the ponytail engineer. Because we engineers have
    trust issues.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2539:_Flinch

    Hal (EECS) had the same reaction. :)

    As a computer programmer, I’d ensure that it was gaffed correctly, but
    it ought to be a pretty easy thing to eyeball-check. As an actor, I’d >remember Stanislavski’s excellent chapter on relaxation.

    As a mechanical engineer I would question a computer programmer's
    ability to determine whether it was gaffed correctly. No offense
    intended.

    As an actor one might do well to remember what happened to Alec
    Baldwin's cinematographer. "Trust but verify".

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to J. Clarke on Wed Nov 10 18:35:17 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 11/10/21 5:14 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 16:57:08 -0500, John W Kennedy
    <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/10/21 1:45 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <smh3gr$c9d$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    xkcd: Flinch
    https://xkcd.com/2539/

    Oh yeah, I am with the ponytail engineer. Because we engineers have
    trust issues.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2539:_Flinch

    Hal (EECS) had the same reaction. :)

    As a computer programmer, I’d ensure that it was gaffed correctly, but
    it ought to be a pretty easy thing to eyeball-check. As an actor, I’d
    remember Stanislavski’s excellent chapter on relaxation.

    As a mechanical engineer I would question a computer programmer's
    ability to determine whether it was gaffed correctly. No offense
    intended.

    Well, that depends on how it’s rigged, what it’s made of, how it’s anchored.... But if I were the person rigging it, and had no evil
    intent, I’d build it in a way that the construction could be easily inspected—three I-beams, say, joined into a staple, well anchored in concrete, and with no play whatever in the suspension mechanism.

    As an actor one might do well to remember what happened to Alec
    Baldwin's cinematographer. "Trust but verify".

    Actually, I’m much more accustomed to using broadswords, where there’s
    no such thing as blanks. (A four-foot iron bar swung at your head
    doesn’t actually need an edge.) So you don’t get careless.

    (Although, putting on my opera-singer’s hat, I’ve been killed by a
    pistol that’s been thown to the floor by the young man eloping with my daughter, to show that he means no harm—oops!) Of such things are
    four-act vendettas made.

    --
    John W. Kennedy
    Algernon Burbage, Lord Roderick, Father Martin, Bishop Baldwin,
    King Pellinore, Captain Bailey, Merlin -- A Kingdom for a Stage!

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to john.w.kennedy@gmail.com on Thu Nov 11 00:16:26 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <M_-dnT5lq9ep3RH8nZ2dnUU7-XHNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 11/10/21 1:45 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <smh3gr$c9d$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    xkcd: Flinch
    https://xkcd.com/2539/

    Oh yeah, I am with the ponytail engineer. Because we engineers have
    trust issues.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2539:_Flinch

    Hal (EECS) had the same reaction. :)

    As a computer programmer, I’d ensure that it was gaffed correctly, but
    it ought to be a pretty easy thing to eyeball-check. As an actor, I’d >remember Stanislavski’s excellent chapter on relaxation.

    I don't know it; can you post a link?

    Dorothy L. Sayers's _Busman's Honeymoon_, before it was a novel,
    was a staged play. At its climax, Lord Peter has reconstructed a
    booby-trap by means of which a murder has been committed,
    whereupon the murderer (who has been outside) enters and triggers
    the booby-trap, which does him no harm (the intended victim was
    taller than he), but scares him into confessing. Sayers's notes
    for the production instruct the stage manager *and the actor
    playing the murderer* to personally inspect the device
    immediately before the curtain rises on the scene.

    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to jclarke.873638@gmail.com on Thu Nov 11 00:19:41 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <efgoog9l8hut4oe7bi233omsjj1lsfhbeb@4ax.com>,
    J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 16:57:08 -0500, John W Kennedy
    <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/10/21 1:45 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <smh3gr$c9d$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    xkcd: Flinch
    https://xkcd.com/2539/

    Oh yeah, I am with the ponytail engineer. Because we engineers have
    trust issues.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2539:_Flinch

    Hal (EECS) had the same reaction. :)

    As a computer programmer, I’d ensure that it was gaffed correctly, but
    it ought to be a pretty easy thing to eyeball-check. As an actor, I’d >>remember Stanislavski’s excellent chapter on relaxation.

    As a mechanical engineer I would question a computer programmer's
    ability to determine whether it was gaffed correctly. No offense
    intended.

    As an actor one might do well to remember what happened to Alec
    Baldwin's cinematographer. "Trust but verify".

    Oh, yes. Hal's education (as I indicated above) was in the
    version of computer science taught by the College of Engineering,
    as distinguished from the one taught by the College of Letters
    and Sciences.


    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to john.w.kennedy@gmail.com on Thu Nov 11 00:22:06 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <392dnT3ubrCryhH8nZ2dnUU7-RnNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 11/10/21 5:14 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 16:57:08 -0500, John W Kennedy
    <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/10/21 1:45 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <smh3gr$c9d$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    xkcd: Flinch
    https://xkcd.com/2539/

    Oh yeah, I am with the ponytail engineer. Because we engineers have >>>>> trust issues.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2539:_Flinch

    Hal (EECS) had the same reaction. :)

    As a computer programmer, I’d ensure that it was gaffed correctly, but >>> it ought to be a pretty easy thing to eyeball-check. As an actor, I’d
    remember Stanislavski’s excellent chapter on relaxation.

    As a mechanical engineer I would question a computer programmer's
    ability to determine whether it was gaffed correctly. No offense
    intended.

    Well, that depends on how it’s rigged, what it’s made of, how it’s >anchored.... But if I were the person rigging it, and had no evil
    intent, I’d build it in a way that the construction could be easily >inspected—three I-beams, say, joined into a staple, well anchored in >concrete, and with no play whatever in the suspension mechanism.

    As an actor one might do well to remember what happened to Alec
    Baldwin's cinematographer. "Trust but verify".

    Actually, I’m much more accustomed to using broadswords, where there’s
    no such thing as blanks. (A four-foot iron bar swung at your head
    doesn’t actually need an edge.) So you don’t get careless.

    (Although, putting on my opera-singer’s hat, I’ve been killed by a
    pistol that’s been thown to the floor by the young man eloping with my >daughter, to show that he means no harm—oops!) Of such things are
    four-act vendettas made.

    Cool! What was the name of the opera? (And, remembering
    operatic conventions, am I to assume you sign bass?)

    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to Dorothy J Heydt on Thu Nov 11 21:14:30 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 11/10/21 7:16 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <M_-dnT5lq9ep3RH8nZ2dnUU7-XHNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 11/10/21 1:45 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <smh3gr$c9d$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    xkcd: Flinch
    https://xkcd.com/2539/

    Oh yeah, I am with the ponytail engineer. Because we engineers have
    trust issues.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2539:_Flinch

    Hal (EECS) had the same reaction. :)

    As a computer programmer, I’d ensure that it was gaffed correctly, but
    it ought to be a pretty easy thing to eyeball-check. As an actor, I’d
    remember Stanislavski’s excellent chapter on relaxation.

    I don't know it; can you post a link?

    Chapter 6, “Relaxation of Muscles”, in “An Actor Prepares”. The book does not appear to be readily available on-line, though it’s in Apple
    Books, and probably elsewhere.


    Dorothy L. Sayers's _Busman's Honeymoon_, before it was a novel,
    was a staged play. At its climax, Lord Peter has reconstructed a
    booby-trap by means of which a murder has been committed,
    whereupon the murderer (who has been outside) enters and triggers
    the booby-trap, which does him no harm (the intended victim was
    taller than he), but scares him into confessing. Sayers's notes
    for the production instruct the stage manager *and the actor
    playing the murderer* to personally inspect the device
    immediately before the curtain rises on the scene.

    I know it well. But this is a different case. At Talboys, the trap is
    prepared so that the victim is right under the point of suspension, so
    that it will smash right into his head while the pendulum is moving at
    maximum speed. In this imaginary case, the “victim" is standing at the
    near end of the swing, where, asssuming that the suspension is reliable,
    and that the “release” involves no pushing, we can know that, on the
    return swing, the pendulum cannot return beyond its original release point.

    --
    John W. Kennedy
    Algernon Burbage, Lord Roderick, Father Martin, Bishop Baldwin,
    King Pellinore, Captain Bailey, Merlin -- A Kingdom for a Stage!

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to Dorothy J Heydt on Thu Nov 11 21:34:24 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 11/10/21 7:22 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <392dnT3ubrCryhH8nZ2dnUU7-RnNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 11/10/21 5:14 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 16:57:08 -0500, John W Kennedy
    <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/10/21 1:45 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <smh3gr$c9d$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    xkcd: Flinch
    https://xkcd.com/2539/

    Oh yeah, I am with the ponytail engineer. Because we engineers have >>>>>> trust issues.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2539:_Flinch

    Hal (EECS) had the same reaction. :)

    As a computer programmer, I’d ensure that it was gaffed correctly, but >>>> it ought to be a pretty easy thing to eyeball-check. As an actor, I’d >>>> remember Stanislavski’s excellent chapter on relaxation.

    As a mechanical engineer I would question a computer programmer's
    ability to determine whether it was gaffed correctly. No offense
    intended.

    Well, that depends on how it’s rigged, what it’s made of, how it’s
    anchored.... But if I were the person rigging it, and had no evil
    intent, I’d build it in a way that the construction could be easily
    inspected—three I-beams, say, joined into a staple, well anchored in
    concrete, and with no play whatever in the suspension mechanism.

    As an actor one might do well to remember what happened to Alec
    Baldwin's cinematographer. "Trust but verify".

    Actually, I’m much more accustomed to using broadswords, where there’s >> no such thing as blanks. (A four-foot iron bar swung at your head
    doesn’t actually need an edge.) So you don’t get careless.

    (Although, putting on my opera-singer’s hat, I’ve been killed by a
    pistol that’s been thown to the floor by the young man eloping with my
    daughter, to show that he means no harm—oops!) Of such things are
    four-act vendettas made.

    Cool! What was the name of the opera? (And, remembering
    operatic conventions, am I to assume you sign bass?)

    "La forza del destino" by Verdi. It is probably due to that pistol stunt
    that it has the same reputation in the opera world that the Scottish
    play has among Shakespreans. (We once had to cancel a production because
    our sets-and-costumes guy made a bonfire of all his “Forza” materials, hoping thus to evade the curse. But it worked out OK; we substituted “Countess Maritza”.)

    And, yes, I am a bass. And I’ve never had a chance to do Boito’s ”Mafistofele”, dammit!

    --
    John W. Kennedy
    Algernon Burbage, Lord Roderick, Father Martin, Bishop Baldwin,
    King Pellinore, Captain Bailey, Merlin -- A Kingdom for a Stage!

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to john.w.kennedy@gmail.com on Fri Nov 12 08:26:55 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 21:34:24 -0500, John W Kennedy
    <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/10/21 7:22 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <392dnT3ubrCryhH8nZ2dnUU7-RnNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 11/10/21 5:14 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 16:57:08 -0500, John W Kennedy
    <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/10/21 1:45 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <smh3gr$c9d$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    xkcd: Flinch
    https://xkcd.com/2539/

    Oh yeah, I am with the ponytail engineer. Because we engineers have >>>>>>> trust issues.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2539:_Flinch

    Hal (EECS) had the same reaction. :)

    As a computer programmer, Id ensure that it was gaffed correctly, but >>>>> it ought to be a pretty easy thing to eyeball-check. As an actor, Id >>>>> remember Stanislavskis excellent chapter on relaxation.

    As a mechanical engineer I would question a computer programmer's
    ability to determine whether it was gaffed correctly. No offense
    intended.

    Well, that depends on how its rigged, what its made of, how its
    anchored.... But if I were the person rigging it, and had no evil
    intent, Id build it in a way that the construction could be easily
    inspectedthree I-beams, say, joined into a staple, well anchored in
    concrete, and with no play whatever in the suspension mechanism.

    As an actor one might do well to remember what happened to Alec
    Baldwin's cinematographer. "Trust but verify".

    Actually, Im much more accustomed to using broadswords, where theres
    no such thing as blanks. (A four-foot iron bar swung at your head
    doesnt actually need an edge.) So you dont get careless.

    (Although, putting on my opera-singers hat, Ive been killed by a
    pistol thats been thown to the floor by the young man eloping with my
    daughter, to show that he means no harmoops!) Of such things are
    four-act vendettas made.

    Cool! What was the name of the opera? (And, remembering
    operatic conventions, am I to assume you sign bass?)

    "La forza del destino" by Verdi. It is probably due to that pistol stunt
    that it has the same reputation in the opera world that the Scottish
    play has among Shakespreans. (We once had to cancel a production because
    our sets-and-costumes guy made a bonfire of all his Forza materials,
    hoping thus to evade the curse. But it worked out OK; we substituted >Countess Maritza.)

    By an odd coincidence, I am listening to the overture to "La forza del
    destino" by Verdi. This is from a two-LP set called "A Golden Treasury
    of Concert Favorites".

    And, yes, I am a bass. And Ive never had a chance to do Boitos >Mafistofele, dammit!
    --
    "I begin to envy Petronius."
    "I have envied him long since."

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to Paul S Person on Fri Nov 12 15:26:32 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 11/12/21 11:26 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 21:34:24 -0500, John W Kennedy
    <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/10/21 7:22 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <392dnT3ubrCryhH8nZ2dnUU7-RnNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 11/10/21 5:14 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 16:57:08 -0500, John W Kennedy
    <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/10/21 1:45 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <smh3gr$c9d$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    xkcd: Flinch
    https://xkcd.com/2539/

    Oh yeah, I am with the ponytail engineer. Because we engineers have >>>>>>>> trust issues.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2539:_Flinch >>>>>>>
    Hal (EECS) had the same reaction. :)

    As a computer programmer, I’d ensure that it was gaffed correctly, but >>>>>> it ought to be a pretty easy thing to eyeball-check. As an actor, I’d >>>>>> remember Stanislavski’s excellent chapter on relaxation.

    As a mechanical engineer I would question a computer programmer's
    ability to determine whether it was gaffed correctly. No offense
    intended.

    Well, that depends on how it’s rigged, what it’s made of, how it’s >>>> anchored.... But if I were the person rigging it, and had no evil
    intent, I’d build it in a way that the construction could be easily
    inspected—three I-beams, say, joined into a staple, well anchored in >>>> concrete, and with no play whatever in the suspension mechanism.

    As an actor one might do well to remember what happened to Alec
    Baldwin's cinematographer. "Trust but verify".

    Actually, I’m much more accustomed to using broadswords, where there’s >>>> no such thing as blanks. (A four-foot iron bar swung at your head
    doesn’t actually need an edge.) So you don’t get careless.

    (Although, putting on my opera-singer’s hat, I’ve been killed by a >>>> pistol that’s been thown to the floor by the young man eloping with my >>>> daughter, to show that he means no harm—oops!) Of such things are
    four-act vendettas made.

    Cool! What was the name of the opera? (And, remembering
    operatic conventions, am I to assume you sign bass?)

    "La forza del destino" by Verdi. It is probably due to that pistol stunt
    that it has the same reputation in the opera world that the Scottish
    play has among Shakespreans. (We once had to cancel a production because
    our sets-and-costumes guy made a bonfire of all his “Forza” materials, >> hoping thus to evade the curse. But it worked out OK; we substituted
    “Countess Maritza”.)

    By an odd coincidence, I am listening to the overture to "La forza del destino" by Verdi. This is from a two-LP set called "A Golden Treasury
    of Concert Favorites".

    Yes, “Forza”, though remaining in the standard repertory, is flawed—what can you expect from a Russian commission based on an early-Romantic
    Spanish play?—but the overture is one of Verdi’s most celebrated.

    And, yes, I am a bass. And I’ve never had a chance to do Boito’s
    ”Mafistofele”, dammit!

    --
    John W. Kennedy
    Algernon Burbage, Lord Roderick, Father Martin, Bishop Baldwin,
    King Pellinore, Captain Bailey, Merlin -- A Kingdom for a Stage!

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