• Freefall: New Reactor Or New Ship ?

    From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 16 22:15:54 2021
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    Freefall: New Reactor Or New Ship ?
    http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3700/fc03631.htm

    I just figured out that Freefall is very loosely set in Isaac Asimov's
    Spacer Universe. You know, where there is 20,000 people on each of the
    Spacer planets and a billion robots.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Sun

    Interesting.

    Lynn

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Tue Aug 17 04:18:45 2021
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    In article <sff9lc$kqr$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    Freefall: New Reactor Or New Ship ?
    http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3700/fc03631.htm

    I just figured out that Freefall is very loosely set in Isaac Asimov's
    Spacer Universe. You know, where there is 20,000 people on each of the >Spacer planets and a billion robots.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Sun

    Interesting.

    The planet we've been visiting since the strip began, anyway: and
    it's newly colonized. If (for instance) it had needed
    terraforming, the robots would've been sent first and the humans
    followed only when it was safe.

    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to Thomas Koenig on Tue Aug 17 14:10:16 2021
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    On 8/17/2021 1:57 PM, Thomas Koenig wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> schrieb:

    Moving populations between areas is incredibly expensive. It is best to
    send a few and grow them there. Or in the case of the Spacers, have a
    hard limit of 20,000 people per planet.

    That was Solaria only.

    Aurora, and all other worlds, had a much higher population.

    Ah, the Solarians probably felt that they were degenerates like Earth.

    Lynn

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to Dorothy J Heydt on Tue Aug 17 13:50:19 2021
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    On 8/16/2021 11:18 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <sff9lc$kqr$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    Freefall: New Reactor Or New Ship ?
    http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3700/fc03631.htm

    I just figured out that Freefall is very loosely set in Isaac Asimov's
    Spacer Universe. You know, where there is 20,000 people on each of the
    Spacer planets and a billion robots.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Sun

    Interesting.

    The planet we've been visiting since the strip began, anyway: and
    it's newly colonized. If (for instance) it had needed
    terraforming, the robots would've been sent first and the humans
    followed only when it was safe.

    Moving populations between areas is incredibly expensive. It is best to
    send a few and grow them there. Or in the case of the Spacers, have a
    hard limit of 20,000 people per planet. No limit on the numbers of robots.

    Lynn

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  • From Thomas Koenig@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Tue Aug 17 18:57:57 2021
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    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> schrieb:

    Moving populations between areas is incredibly expensive. It is best to
    send a few and grow them there. Or in the case of the Spacers, have a
    hard limit of 20,000 people per planet.

    That was Solaria only.

    Aurora, and all other worlds, had a much higher population.

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  • From Thomas Koenig@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Tue Aug 17 21:35:22 2021
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    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> schrieb:
    On 8/17/2021 1:57 PM, Thomas Koenig wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> schrieb:

    Moving populations between areas is incredibly expensive. It is best to >>> send a few and grow them there. Or in the case of the Spacers, have a
    hard limit of 20,000 people per planet.

    That was Solaria only.

    Aurora, and all other worlds, had a much higher population.

    Ah, the Solarians probably felt that they were degenerates like Earth.

    Very much so. They pretty much lumped Earthers and Aurorans into
    one bucket on that (but held Earthers in much lower regards still).

    If you haven't read "Caves of Steel" and "The Naked Sun" yet, do so.
    The second was Asimov taking an idea and extrapolating it until it
    screamed for mercy, a lot like Niven later.

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  • From Chrysi Cat@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Tue Aug 17 15:44:18 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 8/16/2021 9:15 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Freefall: New Reactor Or New Ship ?
       http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3700/fc03631.htm

    I just figured out that Freefall is very loosely set in Isaac Asimov's
    Spacer Universe.  You know, where there is 20,000 people on each of the Spacer planets and a billion robots.
       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Sun

    Interesting.

    Lynn

    I highly doubt that it was intentional.

    And I highly doubt that the cap on Planet Jean is meant to be
    permanent--it's just that humans are incapable of reproducing as fast as inorganic AIs.

    After all, the humans in *this* reality also intend to genetically
    colonise left-handed worlds, rather than just sending robots there.

    I'm more interested in what I said in one of my Discords on Monday--it
    would very MUCH appear we have a winner in the "will Sam dehumanise
    Florence or Florence, humanise Sam" contest.

    --
    Chrysi Cat
    1/2 anthrocat, nearly 1/2 anthrofox, all magical
    Transgoddess, quick to anger
    Call me Chrysi or call me Kat, I'll respond to either!

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to Thomas Koenig on Tue Aug 17 18:16:46 2021
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    On 8/17/2021 4:35 PM, Thomas Koenig wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> schrieb:
    On 8/17/2021 1:57 PM, Thomas Koenig wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> schrieb:

    Moving populations between areas is incredibly expensive. It is best to >>>> send a few and grow them there. Or in the case of the Spacers, have a >>>> hard limit of 20,000 people per planet.

    That was Solaria only.

    Aurora, and all other worlds, had a much higher population.

    Ah, the Solarians probably felt that they were degenerates like Earth.

    Very much so. They pretty much lumped Earthers and Aurorans into
    one bucket on that (but held Earthers in much lower regards still).

    If you haven't read "Caves of Steel" and "The Naked Sun" yet, do so.
    The second was Asimov taking an idea and extrapolating it until it
    screamed for mercy, a lot like Niven later.

    I read both books back in the 1970s. One of them I bought in England
    for 85 pence IIRC in 1973. I lost both books back in The Great Flood of
    '89.

    Lynn

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to Chrysi Cat on Tue Aug 17 18:18:12 2021
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    On 8/17/2021 4:44 PM, Chrysi Cat wrote:
    On 8/16/2021 9:15 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Freefall: New Reactor Or New Ship ?
        http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3700/fc03631.htm

    I just figured out that Freefall is very loosely set in Isaac Asimov's
    Spacer Universe.  You know, where there is 20,000 people on each of
    the Spacer planets and a billion robots.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Sun

    Interesting.

    Lynn

    I highly doubt that it was intentional.

    And I highly doubt that the cap on Planet Jean is meant to be
    permanent--it's just that humans are incapable of reproducing as fast as inorganic AIs.

    After all, the humans in *this* reality also intend to genetically
    colonise left-handed worlds, rather than just sending robots there.

    I'm more interested in what I said in one of my Discords on Monday--it
    would very MUCH appear we have a winner in the "will Sam dehumanise
    Florence or Florence, humanise Sam" contest.

    As Sam said that he is betraying his fellow squids now, it appears that Florence is humanizing Sam.

    Lynn

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  • From Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Tue Aug 17 16:38:50 2021
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    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:sfhg3l$2ns$3@dont-email.me:

    On 8/17/2021 4:44 PM, Chrysi Cat wrote:
    On 8/16/2021 9:15 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Freefall: New Reactor Or New Ship ?
        http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3700/fc03631.htm

    I just figured out that Freefall is very loosely set in Isaac
    Asimov's Spacer Universe.  You know, where there is 20,000
    people on each of the Spacer planets and a billion robots.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Sun

    Interesting.

    Lynn

    I highly doubt that it was intentional.

    And I highly doubt that the cap on Planet Jean is meant to be
    permanent--it's just that humans are incapable of reproducing
    as fast as inorganic AIs.

    After all, the humans in *this* reality also intend to
    genetically colonise left-handed worlds, rather than just
    sending robots there.

    I'm more interested in what I said in one of my Discords on
    Monday--it would very MUCH appear we have a winner in the "will
    Sam dehumanise Florence or Florence, humanise Sam" contest.

    As Sam said that he is betraying his fellow squids now, it
    appears that Florence is humanizing Sam.

    And neither of the is actually human!

    --
    Terry Austin

    Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
    Lynn:
    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
    (May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
    illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

    Vacation photos from Iceland:
    https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

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