• xkcd: Formatting Meeting

    From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 31 14:33:20 2021
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    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
    https://xkcd.com/2562/

    And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all
    numerics like 12/31/2021.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting

    Lynn

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Fri Dec 31 15:10:35 2021
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    On 2021-12-31 12:33 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
       https://xkcd.com/2562/

    And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all numerics like 12/31/2021.

    Explained at:
       https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting

    Lynn

    Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:

    2021/12/31

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Dorothy J Heydt on Fri Dec 31 16:37:07 2021
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    On 2021-12-31 4:11 p.m., Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <sqo2lb$1mtd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-31 12:33 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
       https://xkcd.com/2562/

    And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all
    numerics like 12/31/2021.

    Explained at:
       https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting >>>
    Lynn

    Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:

    2021/12/31

    That works for, hm, about half of each month.


    I don't think there is any jurisdiction on earth that uses YYYY/DD/MM.

    If you lead with the year, then it's always YYYY/MM/DD

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to nope@nope.com on Sat Jan 1 00:11:28 2022
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    In article <sqo2lb$1mtd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-31 12:33 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
       https://xkcd.com/2562/

    And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all
    numerics like 12/31/2021.

    Explained at:
       https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting

    Lynn

    Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:

    2021/12/31

    That works for, hm, about half of each month.

    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Fri Dec 31 20:28:36 2021
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    On 12/31/21 3:33 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
       https://xkcd.com/2562/

    And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all numerics like 12/31/2021.

    Explained at:
       https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting

    Lynn

    I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
    standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous, since no one uses 2021-31-12.

    --
    John W. Kennedy
    Algernon Burbage, Lord Roderick, Father Martin, Bishop Baldwin,
    King Pellinore, Captain Bailey, Merlin -- A Kingdom for a Stage!

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Dec 31 20:30:10 2021
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    On 12/31/21 7:37 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2021-12-31 4:11 p.m., Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <sqo2lb$1mtd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan  <nope@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-31 12:33 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
         https://xkcd.com/2562/

    And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all
    numerics like 12/31/2021.

    Explained at:

    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting

    Lynn

    Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:

    2021/12/31

    That works for, hm, about half of each month.


    I don't think there is any jurisdiction on earth that uses YYYY/DD/MM.

    If you lead with the year, then it's always YYYY/MM/DD

    Properly, it’s supposed to be hyphens, not slashes.

    --
    John W. Kennedy
    Algernon Burbage, Lord Roderick, Father Martin, Bishop Baldwin,
    King Pellinore, Captain Bailey, Merlin -- A Kingdom for a Stage!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to John W Kennedy on Fri Dec 31 18:22:02 2021
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    On 2021-12-31 5:30 p.m., John W Kennedy wrote:
    On 12/31/21 7:37 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2021-12-31 4:11 p.m., Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <sqo2lb$1mtd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan  <nope@nope.com> wrote: >>>> On 2021-12-31 12:33 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
         https://xkcd.com/2562/

    And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all >>>>> numerics like 12/31/2021.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting

    Lynn

    Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:

    2021/12/31

    That works for, hm, about half of each month.


    I don't think there is any jurisdiction on earth that uses YYYY/DD/MM.

    If you lead with the year, then it's always YYYY/MM/DD

    Properly, it’s supposed to be hyphens, not slashes.


    And either way, it will be understood..

    ...which is what's actually important.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Dec 31 20:10:06 2021
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    On 12/31/2021 6:22 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2021-12-31 5:30 p.m., John W Kennedy wrote:
    On 12/31/21 7:37 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2021-12-31 4:11 p.m., Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <sqo2lb$1mtd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan  <nope@nope.com> wrote: >>>>> On 2021-12-31 12:33 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
         https://xkcd.com/2562/

    And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all >>>>>> numerics like 12/31/2021.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting >>>>>>
    Lynn

    Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:

    2021/12/31

    That works for, hm, about half of each month.


    I don't think there is any jurisdiction on earth that uses YYYY/DD/MM.

    If you lead with the year, then it's always YYYY/MM/DD

    Properly, it’s supposed to be hyphens, not slashes.


    And either way, it will be understood..

    ...which is what's actually important.

    Said someone who will never be upper management. :P

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From J. Clarke@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Fri Dec 31 23:26:46 2021
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    On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 20:10:06 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 12/31/2021 6:22 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2021-12-31 5:30 p.m., John W Kennedy wrote:
    On 12/31/21 7:37 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2021-12-31 4:11 p.m., Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <sqo2lb$1mtd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan  <nope@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 2021-12-31 12:33 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
         https://xkcd.com/2562/

    And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all >>>>>>> numerics like 12/31/2021.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting >>>>>>>
    Lynn

    Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:

    2021/12/31

    That works for, hm, about half of each month.


    I don't think there is any jurisdiction on earth that uses YYYY/DD/MM. >>>>
    If you lead with the year, then it's always YYYY/MM/DD

    Properly, it’s supposed to be hyphens, not slashes.


    And either way, it will be understood..

    ...which is what's actually important.

    Said someone who will never be upper management. :P

    There's a reason the military spells the month (or three letters of
    it).

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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to John W Kennedy on Fri Dec 31 21:42:29 2021
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    In article <POydnVEmy-TYM1L8nZ2dnUU7-LXNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/31/21 3:33 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
       https://xkcd.com/2562/

    And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all numerics like 12/31/2021.

    Explained at:
       https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting

    Lynn

    I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
    standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous, since no one uses 2021-31-12.

    I use the abbreviation of the month as in "2021Dec31".

    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. —-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From Christian Weisgerber@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Jan 1 15:16:45 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 2021-12-31, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:

    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
       https://xkcd.com/2562/

    Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:
    2021/12/31

    That uses slashes, so I guess it's American... but it isn't...
    or is it?... so I have no idea how to read, say, 2022/02/03.

    --
    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

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  • From Christian Weisgerber@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Sat Jan 1 15:12:07 2022
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    On 2021-12-31, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
    https://xkcd.com/2562/

    This raises the question: Who in Europe even uses slashes as date
    separators?
    (There's probably a Wikipedia page.)

    --
    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to robertaw@drizzle.com on Sat Jan 1 10:28:00 2022
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    On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 21:42:29 -0800, Robert Woodward
    <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:

    In article <POydnVEmy-TYM1L8nZ2dnUU7-LXNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/31/21 3:33 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
       https://xkcd.com/2562/

    And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all
    numerics like 12/31/2021.

    Explained at:
       https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting >> >
    Lynn

    I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
    standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous, >> since no one uses 2021-31-12.

    I use the abbreviation of the month as in "2021Dec31".

    In my home database, I am currently using
    2021 12Dec 31
    which both sorts by year-month-day and is completely unambiguous.

    And doesn't need hyphens or slashes.
    --
    "I begin to envy Petronius."
    "I have envied him long since."

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  • From Torbjorn Lindgren@21:1/5 to john.w.kennedy@gmail.com on Sat Jan 1 19:31:31 2022
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    John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/31/21 3:33 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
    https://xkcd.com/2562/

    I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
    standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous, >since no one uses 2021-31-12.

    A big benefit with ISO 8601 dates is that they sort correctly using
    standard alphanumeric sort.

    Pretty much every other formatting requires significant extra
    processing for sorting dates while ISO just works.

    And if someone doesn't want separators for some reason, just use the alternative ISO form (YYYYMMDD), it still sort fine as long as it's
    done consistently.

    It's really the "right" time format for any kind of computer logging,
    usually done using either "T" (local, often replaced by space instead)
    or "Z" (UTC) time-zone identifier (also sometimes replaced by space).

    Using UTC for logging avoids both leap second and winter/summer time
    mucking things up, any time someone has things in more than one time
    zone this is really nice.

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  • From Michael Benveniste@21:1/5 to John W Kennedy on Sat Jan 1 16:55:58 2022
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    On 12/31/2021 8:28 PM, John W Kennedy wrote:

    I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
    standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous, since no one uses 2021-31-12.

    Randall Munroe is with you on this:
    https://xkcd.com/1179/

    --
    Mike Benveniste -- mhb@murkyether.com (Clarification Required)
    Its name is Public opinion. It is held in reverence. It settles
    everything. Some think it is the voice of God. -- Mark Twain

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to Torbjorn Lindgren on Sat Jan 1 18:52:33 2022
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    On 1/1/22 2:31 PM, Torbjorn Lindgren wrote:
    John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/31/21 3:33 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
    https://xkcd.com/2562/

    I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
    standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous, >> since no one uses 2021-31-12.

    A big benefit with ISO 8601 dates is that they sort correctly using
    standard alphanumeric sort.

    Pretty much every other formatting requires significant extra
    processing for sorting dates while ISO just works.

    And if someone doesn't want separators for some reason, just use the alternative ISO form (YYYYMMDD), it still sort fine as long as it's
    done consistently.

    It's really the "right" time format for any kind of computer logging,
    usually done using either "T" (local, often replaced by space instead)
    or "Z" (UTC) time-zone identifier (also sometimes replaced by space).

    Using UTC for logging avoids both leap second and winter/summer time
    mucking things up, any time someone has things in more than one time
    zone this is really nice.

    You can, of course, use a binary format, such as Julian Date or (taking
    it down to tiny fractions of a second), proprietary formats such as z/Architecture Time-Of-Day clock or Apple “Date” (possibly to be renamed “Instant” or some other name in the near future). (I don’t know what’s going on just now with **ix or Windows.)

    --
    John W. Kennedy
    Algernon Burbage, Lord Roderick, Father Martin, Bishop Baldwin,
    King Pellinore, Captain Bailey, Merlin -- A Kingdom for a Stage!

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  • From Mark Jackson@21:1/5 to John W Kennedy on Sat Jan 1 20:09:27 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 1/1/2022 6:52 PM, John W Kennedy wrote:
    On 1/1/22 2:31 PM, Torbjorn Lindgren wrote:

    Using UTC for logging avoids both leap second and winter/summer
    time mucking things up, any time someone has things in more than
    one time zone this is really nice.

    You can, of course, use a binary format, such as Julian Date or
    (taking it down to tiny fractions of a second), proprietary formats
    such as z/Architecture Time-Of-Day clock or Apple “Date” (possibly to
    be renamed “Instant” or some other name in the near future). (I don’t know what’s going on just now with **ix or Windows.)

    Be careful how you encode:

    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-exchange-year-2022-bug-in-fip-fs-breaks-email-delivery/

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    I love being told I'm growing up wrong by people
    I don't want to turn out like. - Caulfield (Jef Mallett)

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to Mark Jackson on Sat Jan 1 20:59:12 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 1/1/22 8:09 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 1/1/2022 6:52 PM, John W Kennedy wrote:
    On 1/1/22 2:31 PM, Torbjorn Lindgren wrote:

    Using UTC for logging avoids both leap second and winter/summer
    time mucking things up, any time someone has things in more than
    one time zone this is really nice.

    You can, of course, use a binary format, such as Julian Date or
    (taking it down to tiny fractions of a second), proprietary formats
    such as z/Architecture Time-Of-Day clock or Apple “Date” (possibly to
    be renamed “Instant” or some other name in the near future). (I don’t >> know what’s going on just now with **ix or Windows.)

    Be careful how you encode:

    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-exchange-year-2022-bug-in-fip-fs-breaks-email-delivery/


    I was supposing cases of raw binary, mainly for high-volume logging.
    (I’m old enough to regard complex human-readable formats for non-human readers with a certain horror, especially on architectures that, unlike,
    say, the 1401 or S/360, have no “edit” instruction.)

    --
    John W. Kennedy
    Algernon Burbage, Lord Roderick, Father Martin, Bishop Baldwin,
    King Pellinore, Captain Bailey, Merlin -- A Kingdom for a Stage!

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  • From David Johnston@21:1/5 to Robert Woodward on Sun Jan 2 11:58:03 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 2021-12-31 10:42 p.m., Robert Woodward wrote:
    In article <POydnVEmy-TYM1L8nZ2dnUU7-LXNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/31/21 3:33 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
       https://xkcd.com/2562/

    And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all
    numerics like 12/31/2021.

    Explained at:
       https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting >>>
    Lynn

    I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
    standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous, >> since no one uses 2021-31-12.

    I use the abbreviation of the month as in "2021Dec31".


    That's not confusing for people but is confusing for spreadsheets.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to David Johnston on Sun Jan 2 14:05:36 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 1/2/2022 10:58 AM, David Johnston wrote:
    On 2021-12-31 10:42 p.m., Robert Woodward wrote:
    In article <POydnVEmy-TYM1L8nZ2dnUU7-LXNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
      John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/31/21 3:33 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
         https://xkcd.com/2562/

    And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all
    numerics like 12/31/2021.

    Explained at:

    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting

    Lynn

    I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
    standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous, >>> since no one uses 2021-31-12.

    I use the abbreviation of the month as in "2021Dec31".


    That's not confusing for people but is confusing for spreadsheets.

    I don't know about other spreadsheet programs but Excel "saves" a date
    as the number of days since a fixed date (1 Jan 1970 I believe someone mentioned). The user can chose any number of different formats to
    display the date in, including the one above I believe. (Or at least
    one very similar to it.) So I'm not sure how confusing it actually is
    for Excel.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Sun Jan 2 20:59:01 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 1/2/22 5:05 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 1/2/2022 10:58 AM, David Johnston wrote:
    On 2021-12-31 10:42 p.m., Robert Woodward wrote:
    In article <POydnVEmy-TYM1L8nZ2dnUU7-LXNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
      John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/31/21 3:33 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
         https://xkcd.com/2562/

    And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all >>>>> numerics like 12/31/2021.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting

    Lynn

    I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
    standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous,
    since no one uses 2021-31-12.

    I use the abbreviation of the month as in "2021Dec31".


    That's not confusing for people but is confusing for spreadsheets.

    I don't know about other spreadsheet programs but Excel "saves" a date
    as the number of days since a fixed date (1 Jan 1970 I believe someone mentioned).  The user can chose any number of different formats to
    display the date in, including the one above I believe.  (Or at least
    one very similar to it.)  So I'm not sure how confusing it actually is
    for Excel.

    A service of that sort is an intrinsic function of all Apple operating
    systems. Something of the kind is also to be found in **ix, though, the
    last I heard, it had a looming problem of the Y2K sort coming up.

    --
    John W. Kennedy
    Algernon Burbage, Lord Roderick, Father Martin, Bishop Baldwin,
    King Pellinore, Captain Bailey, Merlin -- A Kingdom for a Stage!

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 3 03:59:19 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <FJCdnRPlT_77xU_8nZ2dnUU7-dvNnZ2d@giganews.com>,

    I don't know about other spreadsheet programs but Excel "saves" a date
    as the number of days since a fixed date (1 Jan 1970 I believe someone
    mentioned).  The user can chose any number of different formats to
    display the date in, including the one above I believe.  (Or at least
    one very similar to it.)  So I'm not sure how confusing it actually is
    for Excel.

    A service of that sort is an intrinsic function of all Apple operating >systems.

    Because their OS is a GUI built on top of BSD UNIX.

    Something of the kind is also to be found in **ix, though, the
    last I heard, it had a looming problem of the Y2K sort coming up.

    I asked Hal whether UNIX had done anything about this problem,
    and he said, "I don't know about UNIX, but Linux has."

    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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  • From J. Clarke@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Mon Jan 3 01:53:21 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 14:05:36 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 1/2/2022 10:58 AM, David Johnston wrote:
    On 2021-12-31 10:42 p.m., Robert Woodward wrote:
    In article <POydnVEmy-TYM1L8nZ2dnUU7-LXNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
      John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/31/21 3:33 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
         https://xkcd.com/2562/

    And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all >>>>> numerics like 12/31/2021.

    Explained at:

    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting

    Lynn

    I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
    standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous,
    since no one uses 2021-31-12.

    I use the abbreviation of the month as in "2021Dec31".


    That's not confusing for people but is confusing for spreadsheets.

    I don't know about other spreadsheet programs but Excel "saves" a date
    as the number of days since a fixed date (1 Jan 1970 I believe someone >mentioned).

    This is easily determined by entering 0 in a cell and formatting as
    date, which turns out to be "Saturday, January 00, 1900". There is no
    graceful way of handling a date before Januaru 1, 1900.

    The user can chose any number of different formats to
    display the date in, including the one above I believe. (Or at least
    one very similar to it.) So I'm not sure how confusing it actually is
    for Excel.

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to John W Kennedy on Mon Jan 3 16:04:13 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> writes:
    On 1/2/22 5:05 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

    I don't know about other spreadsheet programs but Excel "saves" a date
    as the number of days since a fixed date (1 Jan 1970 I believe someone
    mentioned).  The user can chose any number of different formats to
    display the date in, including the one above I believe.  (Or at least
    one very similar to it.)  So I'm not sure how confusing it actually is
    for Excel.

    A service of that sort is an intrinsic function of all Apple operating >systems. Something of the kind is also to be found in **ix, though, the
    last I heard, it had a looming problem of the Y2K sort coming up.

    The *nix issue only applys to 32-bit versions of the operating system,
    most of which should have been decomissioned by 2038.

    Although, applications that process historical log data with 32-bit
    dates stored as the number of seconds since midnight on 31DEC1969
    will need to be modified (if they have not already been) to support
    both 32-bit and 64-bit datestamps.

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to Dorothy J Heydt on Mon Jan 3 20:08:38 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 1/2/22 10:59 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <FJCdnRPlT_77xU_8nZ2dnUU7-dvNnZ2d@giganews.com>,

    I don't know about other spreadsheet programs but Excel "saves" a date
    as the number of days since a fixed date (1 Jan 1970 I believe someone
    mentioned).  The user can chose any number of different formats to
    display the date in, including the one above I believe.  (Or at least
    one very similar to it.)  So I'm not sure how confusing it actually is
    for Excel.

    A service of that sort is an intrinsic function of all Apple operating
    systems.

    Because their OS is a GUI built on top of BSD UNIX.

    No, although the traditional Unix features built around time_t are there
    if you want them, in normal Apple programming in Objective-C or Swift,
    there is a rather more sophisticated facility that presents more digits
    on both sides of the decimal point, and can handle multiple calendars
    and timezones at once. (It’s quite similar to the date/time support in
    Java, which is not surprising, because Java ripped off NextStep, which
    is the direct ancestor of all Apple operating systems since 2001.)

    A taste in Swift:


    import Foundation

    let myDate = Date()

    let localFormatter = DateFormatter()
    localFormatter.dateStyle = .full
    localFormatter.timeStyle = .full
    print(localFormatter.string(from: myDate))

    let uctFormatter = DateFormatter()
    uctFormatter.dateStyle = .medium
    uctFormatter.timeStyle = .medium
    uctFormatter.timeZone = TimeZone(abbreviation: "UTC") print(uctFormatter.string(from: myDate))

    let isoFormatter = ISO8601DateFormatter()
    print(isoFormatter.string(from: myDate))

    ----------------------------------------

    Monday, January 3, 2022 at 7:57:44 PM Eastern Standard Time
    Jan 4, 2022 at 12:57:44 AM
    2022-01-04T00:57:44Z


    Something of the kind is also to be found in **ix, though, the
    last I heard, it had a looming problem of the Y2K sort coming up.

    I asked Hal whether UNIX had done anything about this problem,
    and he said, "I don't know about UNIX, but Linux has."


    --
    John W. Kennedy
    Algernon Burbage, Lord Roderick, Father Martin, Bishop Baldwin,
    King Pellinore, Captain Bailey, Merlin -- A Kingdom for a Stage!

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  • From Quinn C@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 4 17:47:29 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    * Alan:

    On 2021-12-31 4:11 p.m., Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <sqo2lb$1mtd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-31 12:33 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
    https://xkcd.com/2562/

    And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all
    numerics like 12/31/2021.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting >>>>
    Lynn

    Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:

    2021/12/31

    That works for, hm, about half of each month.


    I don't think there is any jurisdiction on earth that uses YYYY/DD/MM.

    If you lead with the year, then it's always YYYY/MM/DD

    You're right, but people don't know that.

    --
    The trouble some people have being German, I thought,
    I have being human.
    -- Margaret Atwood, Surfacing (novel), p.130

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  • From Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha@21:1/5 to Quinn C on Tue Jan 4 14:56:17 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote in news:1hmp2pok99a0f$.dlg@mid.crommatograph.info:

    * Alan:

    On 2021-12-31 4:11 p.m., Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <sqo2lb$1mtd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan
    <nope@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-31 12:33 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
    https://xkcd.com/2562/

    And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of
    using all numerics like 12/31/2021.

    Explained at:

    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting
    _Meeting

    Lynn

    Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:

    2021/12/31

    That works for, hm, about half of each month.


    I don't think there is any jurisdiction on earth that uses
    YYYY/DD/MM.

    If you lead with the year, then it's always YYYY/MM/DD

    You're right, but people don't know that.

    People who can't figure that out aren't going to understand
    *anything*, including how to walk and chew gum at the same time.

    --
    Terry Austin

    Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
    Lynn:
    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
    (May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
    illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

    Vacation photos from Iceland:
    https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

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  • From Quinn C@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 4 17:56:28 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    * Christian Weisgerber:

    On 2021-12-31, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
    https://xkcd.com/2562/

    This raises the question: Who in Europe even uses slashes as date
    separators?
    (There's probably a Wikipedia page.)

    Albania, France (alternatively), Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Spain, UK

    ... according to
    <https://calendars.fandom.com/wiki/Date_format_by_country>

    (and if I didn't overlook any)
    --
    Worf: You are not in my shoes.
    Dax: Too bad. You'd be amazed at what I can do in a pair of size 18
    boots.

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to Quinn C on Wed Jan 5 17:51:06 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 1/4/22 5:56 PM, Quinn C wrote:
    * Christian Weisgerber:

    On 2021-12-31, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    xkcd: Formatting Meeting
    https://xkcd.com/2562/

    This raises the question: Who in Europe even uses slashes as date
    separators?
    (There's probably a Wikipedia page.)

    Albania, France (alternatively), Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Spain, UK

    ... according to
    <https://calendars.fandom.com/wiki/Date_format_by_country>

    (and if I didn't overlook any)

    Just for the heck of it, I ran through every known Apple-supported
    locale; this lists every one with two slashes embedded within digits.

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    agq_CM 5/1/2022 17:42
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    am_ET 05/01/2022 5:42 ከሰዓት
    asa 05/01/2022 17:42
    asa_TZ 05/01/2022 17:42
    ast 5/1/22 17:42
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    byn 05/01/22 5:42 ፋዱስ ደምቢ
    byn_ER 05/01/22 5:42 ፋዱስ ደምቢ
    ca 5/1/22 17:42
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    ca_ES 5/1/22 17:42
    ca_FR 5/1/22 17:42
    ca_IT 5/1/22 17:42
    ccp 𑄻/𑄷/𑄸𑄸 𑄻:𑄺𑄸 PM
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    ccp_IN 𑄻/𑄷/𑄸𑄸 𑄻:𑄺𑄸 PM
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    doi 5/1/22, 5:42 बाद दपैहर
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    ee ɣetrɔ ga 5:42 1/5/22
    ee_GH ɣetrɔ ga 5:42 1/5/22
    ee_TG 17:42 1/5/22
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    el_CY 5/1/22, 5:42 μμ
    el_GR 5/1/22, 5:42 μμ
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    fa_AF ۱۴۰۰/۱۰/۱۵،‏ ۱۷:۴۲
    fa_IR ۱۴۰۰/۱۰/۱۵،‏ ۱۷:۴۲
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    pcm_NG 05/01/2022 17:42
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    shi 5/1/2022 17:42
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    shi_Latn_MA 5/1/2022 17:42
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    ss_SZ 05/01/2022 5:42 PM
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    sw_UG 05/01/2022 17:42
    syr 05/01/2022 5:42 PM
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    syr_SY 05/01/2022 5:42 PM
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    ta_LK 5/1/22, 17:42
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    tg_TJ 05/01/22 17:42
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    th_TH 5/1/65 17:42
    ti 05/01/22 5:42 ደሕረ ፍርቀ-መዓልቲ
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    ur_Aran 5/1/22 5:42 ب.د.
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    vi 17:42, 05/01/2022
    vi_VN 17:42, 05/01/2022
    vun 05/01/2022 17:42
    vun_TZ 05/01/2022 17:42
    wal 05/01/22 5:42 ቃማ
    wal_ET 05/01/22 5:42 ቃማ
    xog 05/01/2022 17:42
    xog_UG 05/01/2022 17:42
    yav 5/1/2022 17:42
    yav_CM 5/1/2022 17:42
    yi 05/01/22 17:42
    yi_001 05/01/22 17:42
    yo 5/1/2022 17:42
    yo_BJ 5/1/2022 17:42
    yo_NG 5/1/2022 17:42
    yue 2022/1/5 下午5:42
    yue_Hans 2022/1/5 下午5:42
    yue_Hans_CN 2022/1/5 下午5:42
    yue_Hant 2022/1/5 下午5:42
    yue_Hant_HK 2022/1/5 下午5:42
    zgh 5/1/2022 17:42
    zgh_MA 5/1/2022 17:42
    zh 2022/1/5 下午5:42
    zh_Hans 2022/1/5 下午5:42
    zh_Hans_CN 2022/1/5 下午5:42
    zh_Hans_HK 5/1/22 下午5:42
    zh_Hans_MO 5/1/22 下午5:42
    zh_Hans_SG 05/01/22 下午5:42
    zh_Hant 2022/1/5 下午5:42
    zh_Hant_CN 2022/1/5 下午5:42
    zh_Hant_HK 5/1/2022 下午5:42
    zh_Hant_MO 5/1/2022 下午5:42
    zh_Hant_TW 2022/1/5 下午5:42
    zu 1/5/22 17:42
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