xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all numerics like 12/31/2021.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting
Lynn
In article <sqo2lb$1mtd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
On 2021-12-31 12:33 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all
numerics like 12/31/2021.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting >>>
Lynn
Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:
2021/12/31
That works for, hm, about half of each month.
On 2021-12-31 12:33 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all
numerics like 12/31/2021.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting
Lynn
Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:
2021/12/31
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all numerics like 12/31/2021.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting
Lynn
On 2021-12-31 4:11 p.m., Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
In article <sqo2lb$1mtd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
On 2021-12-31 12:33 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all
numerics like 12/31/2021.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting
Lynn
Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:
2021/12/31
That works for, hm, about half of each month.
I don't think there is any jurisdiction on earth that uses YYYY/DD/MM.
If you lead with the year, then it's always YYYY/MM/DD
On 12/31/21 7:37 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-31 4:11 p.m., Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
In article <sqo2lb$1mtd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote: >>>> On 2021-12-31 12:33 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all >>>>> numerics like 12/31/2021.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting
Lynn
Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:
2021/12/31
That works for, hm, about half of each month.
I don't think there is any jurisdiction on earth that uses YYYY/DD/MM.
If you lead with the year, then it's always YYYY/MM/DD
Properly, it’s supposed to be hyphens, not slashes.
On 2021-12-31 5:30 p.m., John W Kennedy wrote:
On 12/31/21 7:37 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-31 4:11 p.m., Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
In article <sqo2lb$1mtd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote: >>>>> On 2021-12-31 12:33 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all >>>>>> numerics like 12/31/2021.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting >>>>>>
Lynn
Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:
2021/12/31
That works for, hm, about half of each month.
I don't think there is any jurisdiction on earth that uses YYYY/DD/MM.
If you lead with the year, then it's always YYYY/MM/DD
Properly, it’s supposed to be hyphens, not slashes.
And either way, it will be understood..
...which is what's actually important.
On 12/31/2021 6:22 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-31 5:30 p.m., John W Kennedy wrote:
On 12/31/21 7:37 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-31 4:11 p.m., Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
In article <sqo2lb$1mtd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 2021-12-31 12:33 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all >>>>>>> numerics like 12/31/2021.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting >>>>>>>
Lynn
Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:
2021/12/31
That works for, hm, about half of each month.
I don't think there is any jurisdiction on earth that uses YYYY/DD/MM. >>>>
If you lead with the year, then it's always YYYY/MM/DD
Properly, it’s supposed to be hyphens, not slashes.
And either way, it will be understood..
...which is what's actually important.
Said someone who will never be upper management. :P
On 12/31/21 3:33 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all numerics like 12/31/2021.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting
Lynn
I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous, since no one uses 2021-31-12.
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:
2021/12/31
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
In article <POydnVEmy-TYM1L8nZ2dnUU7-LXNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/21 3:33 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all
numerics like 12/31/2021.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting >> >
Lynn
I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous, >> since no one uses 2021-31-12.
I use the abbreviation of the month as in "2021Dec31".
On 12/31/21 3:33 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous, >since no one uses 2021-31-12.
I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous, since no one uses 2021-31-12.
John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/21 3:33 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous, >> since no one uses 2021-31-12.
A big benefit with ISO 8601 dates is that they sort correctly using
standard alphanumeric sort.
Pretty much every other formatting requires significant extra
processing for sorting dates while ISO just works.
And if someone doesn't want separators for some reason, just use the alternative ISO form (YYYYMMDD), it still sort fine as long as it's
done consistently.
It's really the "right" time format for any kind of computer logging,
usually done using either "T" (local, often replaced by space instead)
or "Z" (UTC) time-zone identifier (also sometimes replaced by space).
Using UTC for logging avoids both leap second and winter/summer time
mucking things up, any time someone has things in more than one time
zone this is really nice.
On 1/1/22 2:31 PM, Torbjorn Lindgren wrote:
Using UTC for logging avoids both leap second and winter/summer
time mucking things up, any time someone has things in more than
one time zone this is really nice.
You can, of course, use a binary format, such as Julian Date or
(taking it down to tiny fractions of a second), proprietary formats
such as z/Architecture Time-Of-Day clock or Apple “Date” (possibly to
be renamed “Instant” or some other name in the near future). (I don’t know what’s going on just now with **ix or Windows.)
On 1/1/2022 6:52 PM, John W Kennedy wrote:
On 1/1/22 2:31 PM, Torbjorn Lindgren wrote:
Using UTC for logging avoids both leap second and winter/summer
time mucking things up, any time someone has things in more than
one time zone this is really nice.
You can, of course, use a binary format, such as Julian Date or
(taking it down to tiny fractions of a second), proprietary formats
such as z/Architecture Time-Of-Day clock or Apple “Date” (possibly to
be renamed “Instant” or some other name in the near future). (I don’t >> know what’s going on just now with **ix or Windows.)
Be careful how you encode:
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-exchange-year-2022-bug-in-fip-fs-breaks-email-delivery/
In article <POydnVEmy-TYM1L8nZ2dnUU7-LXNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/21 3:33 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all
numerics like 12/31/2021.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting >>>
Lynn
I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous, >> since no one uses 2021-31-12.
I use the abbreviation of the month as in "2021Dec31".
On 2021-12-31 10:42 p.m., Robert Woodward wrote:
In article <POydnVEmy-TYM1L8nZ2dnUU7-LXNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/21 3:33 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all
numerics like 12/31/2021.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting
Lynn
I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous, >>> since no one uses 2021-31-12.
I use the abbreviation of the month as in "2021Dec31".
That's not confusing for people but is confusing for spreadsheets.
On 1/2/2022 10:58 AM, David Johnston wrote:
On 2021-12-31 10:42 p.m., Robert Woodward wrote:
In article <POydnVEmy-TYM1L8nZ2dnUU7-LXNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/21 3:33 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all >>>>> numerics like 12/31/2021.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting
Lynn
I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous,
since no one uses 2021-31-12.
I use the abbreviation of the month as in "2021Dec31".
That's not confusing for people but is confusing for spreadsheets.
I don't know about other spreadsheet programs but Excel "saves" a date
as the number of days since a fixed date (1 Jan 1970 I believe someone mentioned). The user can chose any number of different formats to
display the date in, including the one above I believe. (Or at least
one very similar to it.) So I'm not sure how confusing it actually is
for Excel.
A service of that sort is an intrinsic function of all Apple operating >systems.
I don't know about other spreadsheet programs but Excel "saves" a date
as the number of days since a fixed date (1 Jan 1970 I believe someone
mentioned). The user can chose any number of different formats to
display the date in, including the one above I believe. (Or at least
one very similar to it.) So I'm not sure how confusing it actually is
for Excel.
last I heard, it had a looming problem of the Y2K sort coming up.
On 1/2/2022 10:58 AM, David Johnston wrote:
On 2021-12-31 10:42 p.m., Robert Woodward wrote:
In article <POydnVEmy-TYM1L8nZ2dnUU7-LXNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/21 3:33 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all >>>>> numerics like 12/31/2021.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting
Lynn
I’ve been using 2021-12-31 for decades. Aside from being the ISO
standard, it’s easier to program for, and it’s effectively unambiguous,
since no one uses 2021-31-12.
I use the abbreviation of the month as in "2021Dec31".
That's not confusing for people but is confusing for spreadsheets.
I don't know about other spreadsheet programs but Excel "saves" a date
as the number of days since a fixed date (1 Jan 1970 I believe someone >mentioned).
The user can chose any number of different formats to
display the date in, including the one above I believe. (Or at least
one very similar to it.) So I'm not sure how confusing it actually is
for Excel.
On 1/2/22 5:05 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
I don't know about other spreadsheet programs but Excel "saves" a dateA service of that sort is an intrinsic function of all Apple operating >systems. Something of the kind is also to be found in **ix, though, the
as the number of days since a fixed date (1 Jan 1970 I believe someone
mentioned). The user can chose any number of different formats to
display the date in, including the one above I believe. (Or at least
one very similar to it.) So I'm not sure how confusing it actually is
for Excel.
last I heard, it had a looming problem of the Y2K sort coming up.
In article <FJCdnRPlT_77xU_8nZ2dnUU7-dvNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
A service of that sort is an intrinsic function of all Apple operating
I don't know about other spreadsheet programs but Excel "saves" a date
as the number of days since a fixed date (1 Jan 1970 I believe someone
mentioned). The user can chose any number of different formats to
display the date in, including the one above I believe. (Or at least
one very similar to it.) So I'm not sure how confusing it actually is
for Excel.
systems.
Because their OS is a GUI built on top of BSD UNIX.
Something of the kind is also to be found in **ix, though, the
last I heard, it had a looming problem of the Y2K sort coming up.
I asked Hal whether UNIX had done anything about this problem,
and he said, "I don't know about UNIX, but Linux has."
On 2021-12-31 4:11 p.m., Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
In article <sqo2lb$1mtd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
On 2021-12-31 12:33 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of using all
numerics like 12/31/2021.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting_Meeting >>>>
Lynn
Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:
2021/12/31
That works for, hm, about half of each month.
I don't think there is any jurisdiction on earth that uses YYYY/DD/MM.
If you lead with the year, then it's always YYYY/MM/DD
* Alan:
On 2021-12-31 4:11 p.m., Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
In article <sqo2lb$1mtd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan
<nope@nope.com> wrote:
On 2021-12-31 12:33 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
And that is why I write the date as Dec 31, 2021 instead of
using all numerics like 12/31/2021.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2562:_Formatting
_Meeting
Lynn
Or just write it in the way that no one misunderstands:
2021/12/31
That works for, hm, about half of each month.
I don't think there is any jurisdiction on earth that uses
YYYY/DD/MM.
If you lead with the year, then it's always YYYY/MM/DD
You're right, but people don't know that.
On 2021-12-31, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
This raises the question: Who in Europe even uses slashes as date
separators?
(There's probably a Wikipedia page.)
* Christian Weisgerber:
On 2021-12-31, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
xkcd: Formatting Meeting
https://xkcd.com/2562/
This raises the question: Who in Europe even uses slashes as date
separators?
(There's probably a Wikipedia page.)
Albania, France (alternatively), Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Spain, UK
... according to
<https://calendars.fandom.com/wiki/Date_format_by_country>
(and if I didn't overlook any)
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