• Re: LNH/LNH20/JE/8FOLD/MISC/PRECOG: State of the Jeanne

    From deucexm@21:1/5 to Jeanne Morningstar on Sat Dec 18 19:05:33 2021
    This is a very good and relatable post.

    On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 12:31:07 PM UTC-6, Jeanne Morningstar wrote:
    There's a real struggle for ADHD/autistic/otherwise brainweird creators
    where we keep starting new projects, getting super excited about them, burning out completely and then only being able to get back onboard by starting a new project, where the cycle continues.

    Hahaha /yikes/. Drew can attest to how often I talk about this with them.

    There's also winter depression, COVID depression, politics depression,
    trans depression... So yeah.

    4/4 on those as well.

    And I've really been encouraged by the little burst of activity we're
    having now. It's exciting to have new posts from Dave Van Domelen,
    Amabel Holland and Ben Rawluk again, even as I'm still so busy it's hard
    to keep up.

    It's always a pleasant surprise when people continue writing! Life can be dreadfully dreary without creative pursuits, whether yours or someone else's.

    So with that in mind, I'm going to do a brief inventory of my own on the various RACC stories I started, where I'm going with them and how soon they'll (probably) get done.

    I have a list for the DiVerse too, but it is a massive pile of unfinished work at this point because of the aforementioned burnout issues. There's one in particular that has yet to be written (although its skeleton is sitting there in
    the closet, occasionally glaring at me as it waits impatiently to be enfleshed) that would serve to dimensionally link the DiVerse and... some incarnation of the LNH, I'm still not sure which, through a library. Like so many others, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

    Some day.

    Besides all this, I have other stories that may or may not end up being posted here, but I'll wait to say anything about that until I can do
    that. For now, I just want to thank everyone who's still writing and
    posting here.


    Jeanne Morningstar

    To turn a phrase, your writing is great and you should feel great! <3

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  • From Jeanne Morningstar@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 18 18:31:05 2021
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    STATE OF THE JEANNE

    Valerie Halla, an artist I follow on Patreon, has recently been doing
    process posts about her ongoing projects and how they've developed.
    She's been very open about the difficulty of keeping up her original
    ambitious plans and adjusting her projects to things she can actually
    finish, and I find that super relatable.

    There's a real struggle for ADHD/autistic/otherwise brainweird creators
    where we keep starting new projects, getting super excited about them,
    burning out completely and then only being able to get back onboard by
    starting a new project, where the cycle continues. I've been slowly
    learning better to manage that, but it's been a real struggle what with juggling that with writing for my academic career and wrestling with the academic job market, which is a whole other job in and of itself.
    There's also winter depression, COVID depression, politics depression,
    trans depression... So yeah.

    But! I've been gradually getting better and better at this. Writing The Hermetic Garbage of Jenny Everywhere has been a real turning point in
    terms of just being able to Get Stuff Done on a consistent level. I'm
    hoping that, whatever happens in the world/my life, I'll be able to
    carry this forward into the new year.

    And I've really been encouraged by the little burst of activity we're
    having now. It's exciting to have new posts from Dave Van Domelen,
    Amabel Holland and Ben Rawluk again, even as I'm still so busy it's hard
    to keep up.

    So with that in mind, I'm going to do a brief inventory of my own on the various RACC stories I started, where I'm going with them and how soon
    they'll (probably) get done.


    THE HERMETIC GARBAGE OF JENNY EVERYWHERE:

    This is my current #1 priority and it's been amazing in terms of
    progress. My big reason for writing this was to learn to just keep
    writing consistently no matter what, and it's worked. I have a backlog
    of posts because I have stretches where I write a bunch at once, and
    that allows me to revise it a little bit as necessary. The story as a
    whole is currently 5/6 or so done, I'm hammering out the climax of it
    right now.


    HUNGRY, HUNGRY SABERTOOTHS:

    This is also slowly but surely getting closer to done. Drew and I are
    working out how to do the ending, refining ideas we've had earlier. It's
    been hard to figure out how to satisfyingly end a story that began as a reflection of the general state of the world when it's been spiraling so
    much out of control, but we have a good idea of the general shape of it now.


    THE LIMINALS:

    The next issue of The Liminals is mostly written and will go out
    whenever HHS is done (because I don't want to mess up the timeline even
    more than it already was).


    VICTORY:

    This is probably the series I'll get back to soonest. Writing the next
    couple issues has been hard for the exact reasons it's important to me:
    it gets into deep feelings about being queer and trans and about
    superhero stories. It took a while to figure out how to write this issue
    in a way that worked, but now I have. I will get the next few issues out whenever I get to a lull in my work load.


    LNH20/JUST IMAGINE/ULTIMATE MERCENARY:

    After finishing HHS, Drew and I mean to take a crack at finshing the
    Spoon of Destiny saga and Just Imagine at long last, as part of a big initiative I like to call "LNH20+10: You Can (Not) Finish the Story".
    The final issues of Spoon and Destiny are partially written. I also will
    be working on wrapping up Ultimate Mercenary's story with an
    appropriately titled limited series called "The Last Days of Ultimate Mercenary," which will be written in short and frequent posts similarly
    to THGJE. It will finally wrap up his story after, Jesus Christ, almost
    20 years.

    As for the present and future of LNH20, well, that's all very up in the
    air. I know Drew has ideas about how to wrap up the Age of WHATEVER arc,
    but we'll see how that all turns out in the end. LNH20 was heavily
    planned out in its early stages and then we collectively switched to
    playing it by ear when that didn't work out. I honestly think that's
    part of why LNH20 is so fun right now--after all this time, it's still
    in the process of discovering itself.


    CHICKS IN SPACE/RETCON YEAR:

    Both of these stories I have really fun ideas for and want to get back
    to, but it might be a while because well, you can see I have a lot of
    stuff on my plate both in and out of LNH. Luckily, they both should be
    easier now that I'm used to writing in the structure of writing in
    shorter bursts.


    TERRA ALTER:

    The story will conclude for now in backup stories in upcoming issues of Victory, after which I have a couple other ideas for how to continue it.
    Likely it'll be in self-contained shorter stories which add up to a
    greater whole.


    STAR CROSSED:

    IDK if anyone other than me even remembers this, but those characters
    mean a lot to to me, so it will exist definitely in some form. But it
    probably won't be called that anymore. There are now too many stories
    using that title. Ah well.


    LNHY/DEATH OF TROPHY WIFE:

    God only knows where this is going. Well, He doesn't, because He's dead.
    I know Drew has some other partially written issues. My feeling is when
    this story is over, that should be the end of LNHY, and it works better
    as a story with a definitive end. But... Anything's possible, I guess.
    Even finishing off Death of Trophy Wife.


    Besides all this, I have other stories that may or may not end up being
    posted here, but I'll wait to say anything about that until I can do
    that. For now, I just want to thank everyone who's still writing and
    posting here.


    Jeanne Morningstar

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  • From Jeanne Morningstar@21:1/5 to deucexm on Sun Dec 19 00:06:45 2021
    On 12/18/21 1:05 PM, deucexm wrote:



    I have a list for the DiVerse too, but it is a massive pile of unfinished work
    at this point because of the aforementioned burnout issues. There's one in particular that has yet to be written (although its skeleton is sitting there in
    the closet, occasionally glaring at me as it waits impatiently to be enfleshed)
    that would serve to dimensionally link the DiVerse and... some incarnation of the LNH, I'm still not sure which, through a library. Like so many others, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

    Some day.

    That would be a lot of fun! As far as different LNH incarnations go, one
    idea Drew and I have batted around every now and again is a cascade
    that's an entirely new iteration of the LNH, a return to the chaotic
    creative energy of the earliest days. Kind of the opposite of LNH20,
    which was heavily planned out and worldbuilded before we started it,
    which was a mixed blessing. This would be a completely improvisational
    story.

    I like the idea of the LNH having one major new iteration per decade
    (Classic for the 90s, LNHY for the 00s, LNH20 for the 10s and this for
    the 20s). The LNH kind of works like a long running anime franchise like
    Gundam where it has the original universe that's still central
    (UC/Classic) but still drops new iterations every now and again, so it's
    nice if we can keep that going.

    But we should probably finish at least one of the cascades we're on first.


    To turn a phrase, your writing is great and you should feel great! <3

    Aww thanks!

    Jeanne Morningstar

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  • From Scott Eiler@21:1/5 to Jeanne Morningstar on Sun Dec 19 01:11:12 2021
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    On 2021-12-18 10:31, Jeanne Morningstar wrote:
    STATE OF THE JEANNE

    There's a real struggle for ADHD/autistic/otherwise brainweird creators
    where we keep starting new projects, getting super excited about them, burning out completely and then only being able to get back onboard by starting a new project, where the cycle continues. I've been slowly
    learning better to manage that, but it's been a real struggle what with juggling that with writing for my academic career and wrestling with the academic job market, which is a whole other job in and of itself.
    There's also winter depression, COVID depression, politics depression,
    trans depression... So yeah.

    Hmpf. I have exactly one project to do. Perhaps this is part of my
    problem. I am even now procrastinating on this project. it is
    artistically intensive, at least in the early parts.

    POWERNAUT 1992 PART TWO

    For reasons which may become apparent as this series develops, I am
    drawing about fifteen panels per strip right now. I have a "four
    strips" buffer before I start a series, and this one is hard. The
    reason why, will come in due time. But it is coming, and worthy of publication.


    --
    -- (signed) Scott Eiler 8{D> ------ http://www.eilertech.com/ -------

    "Your Royal Highness, instead of devoting yourself exclusively
    to Minerva, should, instead, rather offer sacrifice at the altars
    of Bacchus, Orpheus, Venus, and Morpheus."

    - Advice to Prince Duarte of Portugal. From "The golden age of
    Prince Henry the Navigator", by Joaquim Pedro Oliveira Martins.
    Coming soon to Project Gutenberg.

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  • From Drew Nilium@21:1/5 to Scott Eiler on Sun Dec 19 04:03:09 2021
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    On 12/18/21 8:11 PM, Scott Eiler wrote:
    <snip>
    For reasons which may become apparent as this series develops, I am drawing about fifteen panels per strip right now.  I have a "four strips" buffer before
    I start a series, and this one is hard.  The reason why, will come in due time.
    But it is coming, and worthy of publication.

    You can do it!! <3

    Drew "heck yeah 1992" Nilium

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  • From Drew Nilium@21:1/5 to Jeanne Morningstar on Sun Dec 19 04:02:09 2021
    On 12/18/21 7:06 PM, Jeanne Morningstar wrote:
    <snip>
    That would be a lot of fun! As far as different LNH incarnations go, one idea Drew and I have batted around every now and again is a cascade that's an entirely new iteration of the LNH, a return to the chaotic creative energy of the earliest days. Kind of the opposite of LNH20, which was heavily planned out
    and worldbuilded before we started it, which was a mixed blessing. This would be
    a completely improvisational story.

    Though with a certain amount of structure to make sure it *does* finish. I was also hoping to invite creators from outside our circles to participate.

    I like the idea of the LNH having one major new iteration per decade (Classic for the 90s, LNHY for the 00s, LNH20 for the 10s and this for the 20s). The LNH
    kind of works like a long running anime franchise like Gundam where it has the
    original universe that's still central (UC/Classic) but still drops new iterations every now and again, so it's nice if we can keep that going.

    Yes agreed. :3


    But we should probably finish at least one of the cascades we're on first.

    Yeah. X3;

    Drew "iconic power!!" Nilium

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  • From Drew Nilium@21:1/5 to deucexm on Sun Dec 19 03:57:28 2021
    On 12/18/21 2:05 PM, deucexm wrote:
    This is a very good and relatable post.

    On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 12:31:07 PM UTC-6, Jeanne Morningstar wrote:
    There's a real struggle for ADHD/autistic/otherwise brainweird creators
    where we keep starting new projects, getting super excited about them,
    burning out completely and then only being able to get back onboard by
    starting a new project, where the cycle continues.

    Hahaha /yikes/. Drew can attest to how often I talk about this with them.

    Yep, yep, extremely familiar. @@

    So with that in mind, I'm going to do a brief inventory of my own on the
    various RACC stories I started, where I'm going with them and how soon
    they'll (probably) get done.

    I have a list for the DiVerse too, but it is a massive pile of unfinished work
    at this point because of the aforementioned burnout issues. There's one in particular that has yet to be written (although its skeleton is sitting there in
    the closet, occasionally glaring at me as it waits impatiently to be enfleshed)
    that would serve to dimensionally link the DiVerse and... some incarnation of the LNH, I'm still not sure which, through a library. Like so many others, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

    Some day.

    Looking forward to that so much. <3.<3 But then, looking forward to all your stuff!!

    To turn a phrase, your writing is great and you should feel great! <3

    FUCK YEAH! <3 <3 <3

    Drew "supergreat" Nilium

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  • From Jeanne Morningstar@21:1/5 to Drew Nilium on Sun Dec 19 04:24:08 2021
    On 12/18/21 10:02 PM, Drew Nilium wrote:

    On 12/18/21 7:06 PM, Jeanne Morningstar wrote:

    Though with a certain amount of structure to make sure it *does* finish.
    I was also hoping to invite creators from outside our circles to
    participate.




    Both good ideas. In retrospect, first-phase LNH20 was both too
    structured in some ways and not structured enough in others, which was
    one of the reasons it stalled out apart from, uh, the obvious problem
    we had. It was my first attempt at working on a thing on that scale, and
    I learned a lot from it, both in terms of what I did that worked and
    what I'd do differently now.

    Jeanne Morningstar, can't believe it's been 10 years...

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  • From Drew Nilium@21:1/5 to Jeanne Morningstar on Sun Dec 19 05:50:22 2021
    On 12/18/21 11:24 PM, Jeanne Morningstar wrote:
    In retrospect, first-phase LNH20 was both too structured in
    some ways and not structured enough in others, which was one of the reasons it
    stalled out  apart from, uh, the obvious problem we had. It was my first attempt
    at working on a thing on that scale, and I learned a lot from it, both in terms
    of what I did that worked and what I'd do differently now.

    Very much agreed, on all counts. <3

    Jeanne Morningstar, can't believe it's been 10 years...

    Drew "the last decade feels like two years and the last two years feel like a decade" Nilium

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  • From Jeanne Morningstar@21:1/5 to Jeanne Morningstar on Fri Jan 7 19:18:42 2022
    XPost: alt.comics.lnh

    On 12/18/21 12:31 PM, Jeanne Morningstar wrote:



    THE HERMETIC GARBAGE OF JENNY EVERYWHERE:

    This is my current #1 priority and it's been amazing in terms of
    progress. My big reason for writing this was to learn to just keep
    writing consistently no matter what, and it's worked. I have a backlog
    of posts because I have stretches where I write a bunch at once, and
    that allows me to revise it a little bit as necessary. The story as a
    whole is currently 5/6 or so done, I'm hammering out the climax of it
    right now.

    Just so everyone knows--today I finished the first draft of the 11th and
    final act, although because of the posting schedule it'll take a while
    to go up.

    Jeanne Morningstar

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