• Re: LNH: Leadership Cry.sig: Net.ropolis 2023 #25

    From Scott Eiler@21:1/5 to Arthur Spitzer on Fri Mar 15 03:53:36 2024
    I don't see this in the newsgroup, so I'm boosting it.  It seems like as
    good a Last LNH Story as any could be.

    Scott 8{D>

    On 2024-03-14 19:15, Arthur Spitzer wrote:

                      Leadership Cry.sig: Net.ropolis 2023 #25

                       The Totally Real Conclusion!! Honest!!!

    "Well, guess that wraps up another Leadership Cry.Sig!" said a very
    out of shape man wearing an Ultimate Ninja costume.  But also a man
    that anyone who looked at him would just have to say, 'That's The
    Totally Real Ultimate Ninja!!'  He glanced to another man next to him.  "Time to break out the Victory Cigars!"

    "Yep!" said another grinning man who began handing out cigars to all
    the confused and befuddled LNH'rs who were currently in the lobby. 
    The man had a very ordinary look about him and a T-shirt that read,
    'I'm a Totally Real LNH Writer!  Honest!'  He also had what looked
    like a Totally Real Nobel Prize for LNH Writing hanging on his neck.
     "This was probably my most amazing writing yet!  And I couldn't have
    done it without the fine contributions of those who followed before
    like Drew, Arthur, Rob, Subset Mask, Jeanne, Scott, and the rest!  But
    I probably do deserve most of the credit for the amazing job I did
    wrapping up all of those confusing dangling threads and plotlines.

    "So good in fact that Saxon Brenton came out of retirement to write
    another End of the Month review to celebrate my greatness.  Here's
    what he said," the man began reading from a piece of printer paper he
    pulled out of one of his pockets.  "There is proof now that Alan
    Moore, Tolstoy, Shakespeare, and James Joyce made incredible
    passionate love and all of them got really pregnant and all them gave
    birth to these really colorful robot lions that merged together to
    give us this Greatest Writer of All Time -- and that proof is --
    Totally Real LNH Writer Man who wrote this totally great and totally
    real LNH story!!  So, great in fact that I, Saxon Brenton, will
    despair for humanity if this great work doesn't win all the awards
    especially the Nobel Prize For LNH Writing!  For if that does not
    happen -- Humanity will have committed its Greatest Crime and there
    Will Be No Hope!!!!!"  The man then stuffed the paper back into his
    pocket and wiped a tear from his eye.  "Fortunately, I did win all the awards," he gestured to the Nobel Prize dangling from his neck.  "So, yeah.  I did that."

    Nina Yamashiro looked at the cigar in her hand.  "Wait.  This doesn't
    -- how did I get here?  I was..."

    "It's okay, Nina," said The Totally Real Ultimate Ninja giving her an understanding sympathetic look.  "It's probably that Amnesia that
    Amnesia gave us all that made us forget a lot of what happened in
    Leadership Cry.sig: Net.ropolis 2023 #14-24!"


    "Yeah yeah yeah!  Amnesia!  That's what happened!" nodded The Totally
    Real LNH Writer.  "Totally!"

    "Even, I, with My Totally Real and Incredible Ninja Powers have some
    gaps in my amazing memory.  But rest assured thanks to my incredible
    Ninja skills all the bad guys are either dead, in jail, or totally reformed!  And we all saved the Looniverse for like the zillionth
    time!  And I won that Leadership Election -- Huge Landslide!  So,
    guess I'm back to being the leader again."

    "And I also won in a Huge Landslide for Second in Command," Totally
    Real LNH Writer chimed in, "Sorry, Fearless Leader.  You did a great
    job, but the times -- they are a changing -- maybe you could be my
    Deputy Second in Command or something."

    Fearless Leader started to speak and then just shook his head and gave
    a sigh.

    "Wait!  Who even are you?" said Master Roster Man pointing accusingly
    at Totally Real LNH Writer.  "Have you ever even appeared in a story before?  There's no record of you in any roster!"

    "Umm?  Oh, sure I have!  Yeah!  Tons of stories!  Probably even more
    than you!  Yeah!  As for not being in the Roster?"  Totally Real LNH Writer paused a bit as he tried to come up with a good excuse.  "Oh,
    yeah.  I'm probably in the Top Secret LNH Roster. Yeah!  Where all the
    Top Secret LNH Members are.  Guess you just don't have Top Secret LNH
    Roster Access Clearance -- that's a shame.  Plus I've been like a
    Totally Real LNH Writer for forever.  Was there on day one.  Like I
    was in the Chatroom with Scuv, Druzzt, wRome, and Dvandamm when they
    were coming up with the LNH.  And they were like worried.  'Hey! 
    Should we be doing this?  Seems kind of risky -- this LNH thing.'  And
    I was like, 'Yeah.  That's why we should do it.  Because it's RISKY!'
     And so that's how the LNH formed.  Yep.  Totally True Story!  Uhuh.
    No need to thank me -- but you can.  I do take Venmo!"

    "Anyway," said The Totally Real Ultimate Ninja glaring at Totally Real
    LNH Writer.  "We're all suffering from that whammy Amnesia threw at
    us.  Some more than others.  That's probably why most of you can't
    remember Totally Real LNH Writer.  Even I have these memory holes. 
    Like with all the various LNH passwords to like the LNH Bank Accounts,
    Credit Cards, PIN numbers -- and since I'm the leader now because I
    totally won that LNH Leadership Election by a Big Landslide -- I
    probably should know all of that.  So if anyone can direct me to the..."

    "No!  This is wrong!  This is all wrong!" said Nina trying to break
    free from the spell that seemed to have ensnared all of the LNH.
     "None of this makes any sense!  Even for an LNH story this all seems
    way too..."

    "NO!   THIS MAKES TOTAL SENSE!!" boomed the voice of The Totally Real Ultimate Ninja as his glowing, crackling eyes pierced into Nina's
    eyes.  The colors in the LNHHQ lobby disappeared except for various
    shades of crimson red.  "I AM THE TOTALLY REAL ULTIMATE NINJA!  THIS
    IS TOTALLY TRUE!  NO, REALLY!!  I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE TOTALLY REAL ULTIMATE NINJA!  AND I SHALL AND FOREVER AND EVER BE THE TOTALLY REAL ULTIMATE NINJA!  SERIOUSLY FOLKS!  THIS IS ALL TOTALLY, REALLY,
    REALLY, REALLY TRUE!! SWEAR TO GOD!!!!  WHO IS THE REAL TOTALLY REAL ULTIMATE NINJA?!!!"

    And everyone in the room in unison shouted with there eyes kind of
    glazed over, "YOU ARE!  YOU ARE THE TOTALLY REAL ULTIMATE NINJA!!!!"

    And Nina?  Tears began to fall from her eyes.  Tears of joy. And she
    rushed over to The Totally Real Ultimate Ninja and gave him a big hug.
     "Oh, God!  You're back!  I'm sorry I doubted you!!  But you're back, Uncle!  The Totally Real Ultimate Ninja is Back!!  Back to Lead Us ALL!!!"

    "Umm, oof -- yeah," said The Totally Real Ultimate Ninja wincing in
    pain as Nina's big hug began to crush him to death.  "Uhh, could you
    go a little bit easier with the -- aaagggghhhh -- can't can't..."

    "Oh!  Sorry, Uncle!  I guess escaping from the afterlife took a toll
    on you?  I guess that's why you look so incredibly out of shape?"

    "Yeah, uh... sure."  And quickly added.  "And probably all that saving
    the Looniverse too.  That took quite a toll!

    "Anyhow, you did a fine job -- leading this place, Nina.  But that's
    over with.  Because I'm back.  And because I'm The Totally Real
    Ultimate Ninja!  And I won the LNH Leadership in the Biggest Landslide Ever!  So Big!!  And now it's going to be all like it was!  Back to
    the Glory Days!"  And he turned and addressed all the LNH'rs that were currently in the lobby and pumped his fists in the air.  "THE LNH IS
    BACK, BABY!  AND BETTER THAN EVER!!"

    And all of the LNH'rs started hooting and hollering.  And a number of
    them shouted, totally overjoyed, "It's Party Time!"  The Totally Real Ultimate Ninja was back.  Everything was Right with the World Again.

    Bad Judgment Boy looked at what was happening with a gleam in his
    eyes.  "I have a really, really good feeling about all this!  Hmm.  Am
    I still President?  Am I running for President? Probably should look
    into that."

    And The Totally Real Ultimate Ninja looked at Totally Real LNH Writer
    with a smirk on his face.  "Can you see if you can get all of those passwords and codes?"

    "Sure.  What are you going to do?"

    "Oh, you know.  Just your typical Totally Real Ultimate Ninja Top
    Secret Stuff -- that sort of thing."  And they both laughed.

     ** ** ** **

    Elsewhere, in a Las Vegas Casino...

    A man wearing a bright red pimp hat and shades, and a pink fur coat
    was shaking a fist full of dice.  He let the dice fly on the craps
    table.  Damn.  Snake Eyes!  And then he looked at his hand.  The
    tattoos were gone.  They were all gone.  He looked at his other hand. 
    And then various other parts of his skin.  And then began to freak out
    and tear whatever clothes he had been wearing off.  They were all
    gone!  All of his tattoos were gone!!  What had happened to them?!!

    Continuity Porn Star ran from various Security Guards that were trying
    to tackle him and made his way out of the Casino and then collapsed
    onto the sidewalk.

    Something was wrong with the World.  Something was very, very wrong.

     ** ** ** **

    To Be Continued?!!

     ** ** ** **


    The Ultimate Ninja is wReam's
    (Ultimate Ninja II) Nina Yamashiro is Amabel Holland's
    Fearless Leader is Dave Van Domelen's
    Master Roster Man is Jef Kolodziej's
    Amnesia is Jeff Barnes's
    And Bad Judgment Boy, Continuity Porn Star, Totally
    Real LNH Writer, and Totally Real Ultimate Ninja are
    mine.


    Writer's Notes:

    Hah!  Sorry about this!  I had zero ideas about what
    to do with all the previous stuff -- so I just ignored
    it and skipped a bunch of issues because this idea
    popped into my head and I had to do it.

    Totally Real LNH Writer is a slight reworking of this
    character that I've thought about for a long time and
    I think I did post about this character in some RACC
    threads.  I called him Fake LNH Writer back then.
    He has the superpower to convince people that he's
    a real LNH writer, but is pretty ordinary beyond that
    power.  He carries around fake reviews and fake awards
    that he's won for all the fake LNH stories he's never
    actually wrote.

    And Totally Real Ultimate Ninja is kind of the same.
    Just with the power to convince everyone that he's
    The Real Ultimate Ninja, but a very ordinary person
    besides that power.

    I'd say the characters are these grifter types who
    have mostly up to this point been using their powers
    for very petty small time stuff.

    So, I've written another LNH story.  Every story I write
    now days feels a bit like the last one I'll ever write.
    But here's one more.

    Arthur "The Totally Real..." Spitzer
















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    invincible Scott-shield. Scott's mighty armament is only subject to
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Scott Eiler on Fri Mar 15 04:10:16 2024
    Scott Eiler <seiler@eilertech.com> wrote at 03:53 this Friday (GMT):
    I don't see this in the newsgroup, so I'm boosting it.  It seems like as good a Last LNH Story as any could be.

    Thanks, I didn't see it here in eternal-september.

    Scott 8{D>

    On 2024-03-14 19:15, Arthur Spitzer wrote:

                      Leadership Cry.sig: Net.ropolis 2023 #25

                       The Totally Real Conclusion!! Honest!!!

    "Well, guess that wraps up another Leadership Cry.Sig!" said a very
    out of shape man wearing an Ultimate Ninja costume.  But also a man
    that anyone who looked at him would just have to say, 'That's The
    Totally Real Ultimate Ninja!!'  He glanced to another man next to him.
     "Time to break out the Victory Cigars!"

    "Yep!" said another grinning man who began handing out cigars to all
    the confused and befuddled LNH'rs who were currently in the lobby. 
    The man had a very ordinary look about him and a T-shirt that read,
    'I'm a Totally Real LNH Writer!  Honest!'  He also had what looked
    like a Totally Real Nobel Prize for LNH Writing hanging on his neck.
     "This was probably my most amazing writing yet!  And I couldn't have
    done it without the fine contributions of those who followed before
    like Drew, Arthur, Rob, Subset Mask, Jeanne, Scott, and the rest!  But
    I probably do deserve most of the credit for the amazing job I did
    wrapping up all of those confusing dangling threads and plotlines.

    "So good in fact that Saxon Brenton came out of retirement to write
    another End of the Month review to celebrate my greatness.  Here's
    what he said," the man began reading from a piece of printer paper he
    pulled out of one of his pockets.  "There is proof now that Alan
    Moore, Tolstoy, Shakespeare, and James Joyce made incredible
    passionate love and all of them got really pregnant and all them gave
    birth to these really colorful robot lions that merged together to
    give us this Greatest Writer of All Time -- and that proof is --
    Totally Real LNH Writer Man who wrote this totally great and totally
    real LNH story!!  So, great in fact that I, Saxon Brenton, will
    despair for humanity if this great work doesn't win all the awards
    especially the Nobel Prize For LNH Writing!  For if that does not
    happen -- Humanity will have committed its Greatest Crime and there
    Will Be No Hope!!!!!"  The man then stuffed the paper back into his
    pocket and wiped a tear from his eye.  "Fortunately, I did win all the
    awards," he gestured to the Nobel Prize dangling from his neck.  "So,
    yeah.  I did that."

    Nina Yamashiro looked at the cigar in her hand.  "Wait.  This doesn't
    -- how did I get here?  I was..."

    "It's okay, Nina," said The Totally Real Ultimate Ninja giving her an
    understanding sympathetic look.  "It's probably that Amnesia that
    Amnesia gave us all that made us forget a lot of what happened in
    Leadership Cry.sig: Net.ropolis 2023 #14-24!"


    "Yeah yeah yeah!  Amnesia!  That's what happened!" nodded The Totally
    Real LNH Writer.  "Totally!"

    "Even, I, with My Totally Real and Incredible Ninja Powers have some
    gaps in my amazing memory.  But rest assured thanks to my incredible
    Ninja skills all the bad guys are either dead, in jail, or totally
    reformed!  And we all saved the Looniverse for like the zillionth
    time!  And I won that Leadership Election -- Huge Landslide!  So,
    guess I'm back to being the leader again."

    "And I also won in a Huge Landslide for Second in Command," Totally
    Real LNH Writer chimed in, "Sorry, Fearless Leader.  You did a great
    job, but the times -- they are a changing -- maybe you could be my
    Deputy Second in Command or something."

    Fearless Leader started to speak and then just shook his head and gave
    a sigh.

    "Wait!  Who even are you?" said Master Roster Man pointing accusingly
    at Totally Real LNH Writer.  "Have you ever even appeared in a story
    before?  There's no record of you in any roster!"

    "Umm?  Oh, sure I have!  Yeah!  Tons of stories!  Probably even more
    than you!  Yeah!  As for not being in the Roster?"  Totally Real LNH
    Writer paused a bit as he tried to come up with a good excuse.  "Oh,
    yeah.  I'm probably in the Top Secret LNH Roster. Yeah!  Where all the
    Top Secret LNH Members are.  Guess you just don't have Top Secret LNH
    Roster Access Clearance -- that's a shame.  Plus I've been like a
    Totally Real LNH Writer for forever.  Was there on day one.  Like I
    was in the Chatroom with Scuv, Druzzt, wRome, and Dvandamm when they
    were coming up with the LNH.  And they were like worried.  'Hey! 
    Should we be doing this?  Seems kind of risky -- this LNH thing.'  And
    I was like, 'Yeah.  That's why we should do it.  Because it's RISKY!'
     And so that's how the LNH formed.  Yep.  Totally True Story!  Uhuh.
    No need to thank me -- but you can.  I do take Venmo!"

    "Anyway," said The Totally Real Ultimate Ninja glaring at Totally Real
    LNH Writer.  "We're all suffering from that whammy Amnesia threw at
    us.  Some more than others.  That's probably why most of you can't
    remember Totally Real LNH Writer.  Even I have these memory holes. 
    Like with all the various LNH passwords to like the LNH Bank Accounts,
    Credit Cards, PIN numbers -- and since I'm the leader now because I
    totally won that LNH Leadership Election by a Big Landslide -- I
    probably should know all of that.  So if anyone can direct me to the..."

    "No!  This is wrong!  This is all wrong!" said Nina trying to break
    free from the spell that seemed to have ensnared all of the LNH.
     "None of this makes any sense!  Even for an LNH story this all seems
    way too..."

    "NO!   THIS MAKES TOTAL SENSE!!" boomed the voice of The Totally Real
    Ultimate Ninja as his glowing, crackling eyes pierced into Nina's
    eyes.  The colors in the LNHHQ lobby disappeared except for various
    shades of crimson red.  "I AM THE TOTALLY REAL ULTIMATE NINJA!  THIS
    IS TOTALLY TRUE!  NO, REALLY!!  I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE TOTALLY REAL
    ULTIMATE NINJA!  AND I SHALL AND FOREVER AND EVER BE THE TOTALLY REAL
    ULTIMATE NINJA!  SERIOUSLY FOLKS!  THIS IS ALL TOTALLY, REALLY,
    REALLY, REALLY TRUE!! SWEAR TO GOD!!!!  WHO IS THE REAL TOTALLY REAL
    ULTIMATE NINJA?!!!"

    And everyone in the room in unison shouted with there eyes kind of
    glazed over, "YOU ARE!  YOU ARE THE TOTALLY REAL ULTIMATE NINJA!!!!"

    And Nina?  Tears began to fall from her eyes.  Tears of joy. And she
    rushed over to The Totally Real Ultimate Ninja and gave him a big hug.
     "Oh, God!  You're back!  I'm sorry I doubted you!!  But you're back,
    Uncle!  The Totally Real Ultimate Ninja is Back!!  Back to Lead Us ALL!!!" >>
    "Umm, oof -- yeah," said The Totally Real Ultimate Ninja wincing in
    pain as Nina's big hug began to crush him to death.  "Uhh, could you
    go a little bit easier with the -- aaagggghhhh -- can't can't..."

    "Oh!  Sorry, Uncle!  I guess escaping from the afterlife took a toll
    on you?  I guess that's why you look so incredibly out of shape?"

    "Yeah, uh... sure."  And quickly added.  "And probably all that saving
    the Looniverse too.  That took quite a toll!

    "Anyhow, you did a fine job -- leading this place, Nina.  But that's
    over with.  Because I'm back.  And because I'm The Totally Real
    Ultimate Ninja!  And I won the LNH Leadership in the Biggest Landslide
    Ever!  So Big!!  And now it's going to be all like it was!  Back to
    the Glory Days!"  And he turned and addressed all the LNH'rs that were
    currently in the lobby and pumped his fists in the air.  "THE LNH IS
    BACK, BABY!  AND BETTER THAN EVER!!"

    And all of the LNH'rs started hooting and hollering.  And a number of
    them shouted, totally overjoyed, "It's Party Time!"  The Totally Real
    Ultimate Ninja was back.  Everything was Right with the World Again.

    Bad Judgment Boy looked at what was happening with a gleam in his
    eyes.  "I have a really, really good feeling about all this!  Hmm.  Am
    I still President?  Am I running for President? Probably should look
    into that."

    And The Totally Real Ultimate Ninja looked at Totally Real LNH Writer
    with a smirk on his face.  "Can you see if you can get all of those
    passwords and codes?"

    "Sure.  What are you going to do?"

    "Oh, you know.  Just your typical Totally Real Ultimate Ninja Top
    Secret Stuff -- that sort of thing."  And they both laughed.

     ** ** ** **

    Elsewhere, in a Las Vegas Casino...

    A man wearing a bright red pimp hat and shades, and a pink fur coat
    was shaking a fist full of dice.  He let the dice fly on the craps
    table.  Damn.  Snake Eyes!  And then he looked at his hand.  The
    tattoos were gone.  They were all gone.  He looked at his other hand. 
    And then various other parts of his skin.  And then began to freak out
    and tear whatever clothes he had been wearing off.  They were all
    gone!  All of his tattoos were gone!!  What had happened to them?!!

    Continuity Porn Star ran from various Security Guards that were trying
    to tackle him and made his way out of the Casino and then collapsed
    onto the sidewalk.

    Something was wrong with the World.  Something was very, very wrong.

     ** ** ** **

    To Be Continued?!!

     ** ** ** **


    The Ultimate Ninja is wReam's
    (Ultimate Ninja II) Nina Yamashiro is Amabel Holland's
    Fearless Leader is Dave Van Domelen's
    Master Roster Man is Jef Kolodziej's
    Amnesia is Jeff Barnes's
    And Bad Judgment Boy, Continuity Porn Star, Totally
    Real LNH Writer, and Totally Real Ultimate Ninja are
    mine.


    Writer's Notes:

    Hah!  Sorry about this!  I had zero ideas about what
    to do with all the previous stuff -- so I just ignored
    it and skipped a bunch of issues because this idea
    popped into my head and I had to do it.

    Totally Real LNH Writer is a slight reworking of this
    character that I've thought about for a long time and
    I think I did post about this character in some RACC
    threads.  I called him Fake LNH Writer back then.
    He has the superpower to convince people that he's
    a real LNH writer, but is pretty ordinary beyond that
    power.  He carries around fake reviews and fake awards
    that he's won for all the fake LNH stories he's never
    actually wrote.

    And Totally Real Ultimate Ninja is kind of the same.
    Just with the power to convince everyone that he's
    The Real Ultimate Ninja, but a very ordinary person
    besides that power.

    I'd say the characters are these grifter types who
    have mostly up to this point been using their powers
    for very petty small time stuff.

    So, I've written another LNH story.  Every story I write
    now days feels a bit like the last one I'll ever write.
    But here's one more.

    Arthur "The Totally Real..." Spitzer


















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  • From Russ Allbery@21:1/5 to Scott Eiler on Fri Mar 15 04:39:41 2024
    Scott Eiler <seiler@eilertech.com> writes:

    I don't see this in the newsgroup, so I'm boosting it.  It seems like as good a Last LNH Story as any could be.

    Arthur's messages are sent via email, and are then posted to the
    newsgroup. I'm guessing there are some message headers from the trip
    through email that eternal-september doesn't like, but I'm not sure which
    ones they are. I took a guess and configured the moderation software to
    drop a couple of headers, so we'll see if those were the problem.

    The other possibility is that eternal-september doesn't like multipart/alternative messages for some reason. That's going to be harder
    for either Arthur or I to fix.

    --
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Russ Allbery on Fri Mar 15 05:10:12 2024
    Russ Allbery <eagle@eyrie.org> wrote at 04:39 this Friday (GMT):
    Scott Eiler <seiler@eilertech.com> writes:

    I don't see this in the newsgroup, so I'm boosting it.  It seems like as
    good a Last LNH Story as any could be.

    Arthur's messages are sent via email, and are then posted to the
    newsgroup. I'm guessing there are some message headers from the trip
    through email that eternal-september doesn't like, but I'm not sure which ones they are. I took a guess and configured the moderation software to
    drop a couple of headers, so we'll see if those were the problem.

    The other possibility is that eternal-september doesn't like multipart/alternative messages for some reason. That's going to be harder for either Arthur or I to fix.

    I'd guess maybe the latter, considering the block on binaries?
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  • From Russ Allbery@21:1/5 to Arthur Spitzer on Fri Mar 15 17:10:58 2024
    Arthur Spitzer <arspitzer2@gmail.com> writes:

    Oh, well. Guess people will just have to look through the list archives
    if they want to see my posts.

    Arthur "Another post..." Spitzer

    Well, this revealed that I didn't drop the headers in the right place, so
    maybe this time for sure. :)

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  • From Russ Allbery@21:1/5 to Dave Van Domelen on Fri Mar 15 18:03:22 2024
    dvandom@eyrie.org (Dave Van Domelen) writes:

    Sounds like a reason to go back to posting just plaintext, if eternal-september is ASCII-only.

    The problem is that I'm not sure Gmail allows you to do that, at least
    easily, for a specific recipient if you're using the web client or their first-party apps. (And if you're mailing other Gmail users, you probably
    don't want to use plain text.)

    Third-party clients may have more options, but HTML is pretty ubiquitous
    in email these days and plain-text email looks weird and is harder to read
    for most recipients.

    Anyway, I'm still not sure it's the multipart/alternative as opposed to
    the Dkim-Signature, which is email-specific stuff that I should have been dropping in moderation (and am doing so now).

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  • From Dave Van Domelen@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 15 17:47:19 2024
    Sounds like a reason to go back to posting just plaintext, if eternal-september is ASCII-only.

    Dave Van Domelen, never stopped posting in plaintext....

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Drew Nilium on Sun Mar 17 04:20:13 2024
    Drew Nilium <pwerdna@gmail.com> wrote at 01:04 this Sunday (GMT):
    On 3/15/24 2:03 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
    dvandom@eyrie.org (Dave Van Domelen) writes:

    Sounds like a reason to go back to posting just plaintext, if
    eternal-september is ASCII-only.

    The problem is that I'm not sure Gmail allows you to do that, at least
    easily, for a specific recipient if you're using the web client or their
    first-party apps. (And if you're mailing other Gmail users, you probably
    don't want to use plain text.)

    Third-party clients may have more options, but HTML is pretty ubiquitous
    in email these days and plain-text email looks weird and is harder to read >> for most recipients.

    Anyway, I'm still not sure it's the multipart/alternative as opposed to
    the Dkim-Signature, which is email-specific stuff that I should have been
    dropping in moderation (and am doing so now).

    Uff, I'm sorry it's such a pain. @.@

    Drew "is on eternal-september and hasn't had this problem before I don't think?"
    Nilium

    I think I've seen some messages dropped rarely, with the replies sent
    thru?
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