• Re: NBC News: Buyer remose and shipping costs results is huge fraud for

    From weary flake@21:1/5 to RichA on Sat Jan 1 20:22:53 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    On 12/29/21 10:52 PM, RichA wrote:
    I hate people who get buyer remorse. To me, the surest sign you aren't a man is when you buy something, then have second thoughts because of your nagging wife whom you have to pass through any purchase over $50.00. In any case, shipping now has
    become so expensive that returns are being refunded without the product having to be shipped back to the seller!!
    The margins are being wiped out by having to pay return shipping by Amazon and Ebay, plus, if a business is honest, they won't try to re-sell the item as new, which means a further 10% discount if the item does come back. So it's actually cheaper in
    some instances to let people just keep the product. With Amazon, that is up to them, with Ebay, the seller is at their mercy and the buyer's. People knowing this are now asking to return certain things knowing they won't be asked to ship it back.
    Businesses should take the extra loss and hold firm on these parasites.



    What about when items are defective and/or falsely described? Very Common
    on Amazon and Ebay, but you are calling every such case "buyer remorse",
    as if you were dumb as a journalist. I think the lowest quality consumer product
    type I've bought many of are print-on-demand public domain books: this requires so
    much returns/refunds for product defects to get a book that actually is complete
    and readable, and often have to give up the idea of having a current reprint, and go without or try to scrounge up an old musty original copy if possibly available. I apologize for calling you a journalist, but I've read about supposed
    "buyer remorse" in news media articles many times and it's the typical anti-consumer slant that journalists take. Feel free to call me dumb for wanting
    to pay for printed books rather than have mere files.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to weary flake on Mon Jan 3 11:04:51 2022
    On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 20:22:53 -0800, weary flake wrote:

    On 12/29/21 10:52 PM, RichA wrote:
    I hate people who get buyer remorse. To me, the surest sign you aren't a man is when you buy something, then have second thoughts because of your nagging wife whom you have to pass through any purchase over $50.00. In any case, shipping now has
    become so expensive that returns are being refunded without the product having to be shipped back to the seller!!
    The margins are being wiped out by having to pay return shipping by Amazon and Ebay, plus, if a business is honest, they won't try to re-sell the item as new, which means a further 10% discount if the item does come back. So it's actually cheaper in
    some instances to let people just keep the product. With Amazon, that is up to them, with Ebay, the seller is at their mercy and the buyer's. People knowing this are now asking to return certain things knowing they won't be asked to ship it back.
    Businesses should take the extra loss and hold firm on these parasites.



    What about when items are defective and/or falsely described? Very Common
    on Amazon and Ebay, but you are calling every such case "buyer remorse",
    as if you were dumb as a journalist. I think the lowest quality consumer product
    type I've bought many of are print-on-demand public domain books: this requires so
    much returns/refunds for product defects to get a book that actually is complete
    and readable, and often have to give up the idea of having a current reprint, >and go without or try to scrounge up an old musty original copy if possibly >available. I apologize for calling you a journalist, but I've read about supposed
    "buyer remorse" in news media articles many times and it's the typical >anti-consumer slant that journalists take. Feel free to call me dumb for wanting
    to pay for printed books rather than have mere files.

    Sorry - I'm not the least sympathetic for Amazon as Amazon by making
    'free shipping' their mantra even on small orders are savaging smaller retailers who can't hope to match the shipping costs Amazon pays.

    When US shippers can offer US$10 shipping of up to 10 lbs anywhere in
    Canada when Canadian rates for Vancouver-Toronto are $20-22 for parcel
    rate under 2 kgs and $40-45 for 5 kgs that's an edge no business can
    ignore.

    So 'so sad' from me about Amazon's shipping woes.

    Justin Trudeau clearly has no idea what harm he has caused Canadian
    companies trying to compete when he in the new NAFTA raised the 'de
    minimus' (the amount under which Canadian shipping companies are not
    required to collect Canadian taxes and duties) from $25 to $200. Trump
    wanted $800 which would have eliminated our mail order business which
    is about 25% of our total sales and would have been a direct subsidy
    to Amazon and other major e-tailers.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)