• The Hobbit: The Tolkien Edit

    From Bill O'Meally@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 1 21:22:03 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.tolkien

    I absolutely hated The Hobbit movies. I could not even bring myself to
    watch the third installment. Someone else who found movies "spoiled by
    an interminable running time, unengaging plot tangents and constant
    narrative filibustering. What especially saddened me was how Bilbo (the supposed protagonist of the story) was rendered absent for large
    portions of the final two films", decided to edit the three films into
    one by cutting out a lot of the non-cannonical, Jacksonesque fluff.

    I just watched the 4+ hour movie on this rainy New Year's Day, and must
    say I enjoyed it for the most part. I think it could have been pared
    down a bit more, but this person did a rather remarkable job, and I
    found it to be more seamless and professional than I expected it to be.
    I suspect further cuts might have spoiled the continuity.

    I downloaded the 6GB version, which took about 15 minutes. I had issues
    with playing it through Torrent -- it kept buffering for about 5
    seconds every 20-30 seconds or so. Very frustrating! I switched over to QuikTime, and though the resolution did not seem to be quite as good,
    it solved the buffering issue. There's also a 2GB version that is lower resolution.

    https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com/

    --
    Bill O'Meally

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  • From Louis Epstein@21:1/5 to Bill O'Meally on Sun Jan 3 16:15:58 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.tolkien

    In alt.fan.tolkien Bill O'Meally <omeallymd@geemail.com> wrote:
    I absolutely hated The Hobbit movies. I could not even bring myself to
    watch the third installment. Someone else who found movies "spoiled by
    an interminable running time, unengaging plot tangents and constant
    narrative filibustering. What especially saddened me was how Bilbo (the supposed protagonist of the story) was rendered absent for large
    portions?of the final two films", decided to edit the three films into
    one by cutting out a lot of the non-cannonical, Jacksonesque fluff.

    The foregoing sentence has some editing issues relating also to
    the content of the previous sentence (they may need combination
    to be coherent).

    As it is,it appears to say that Bilbo decided to edit the three
    films (I suppose he might be looking for something to do in the
    Undying Lands,but putting up with our world's twisted adaptations
    of his life story seems a waste of his time to begin with).

    I just watched the 4+ hour movie on this rainy New Year's Day, and must
    say I enjoyed it for the most part. I think it could have been pared
    down a bit more, but this person did a rather remarkable job, and I
    found it to be more seamless and professional than I expected it to be.
    I suspect further cuts might have spoiled the continuity.

    I downloaded the 6GB version, which took about 15 minutes. I had issues
    with playing it through Torrent -- it kept buffering for about 5
    seconds every 20-30 seconds or so. Very frustrating! I switched over to QuikTime, and though the resolution did not seem to be quite as good,
    it solved the buffering issue. There's also a 2GB version that is lower resolution.

    https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com/


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  • From Bill O'Meally@21:1/5 to Louis Epstein on Sun Jan 3 14:54:00 2021
    On 2021-01-03 16:15:58 +0000, Louis Epstein said:


    The foregoing sentence has some editing issues relating also to
    the content of the previous sentence (they may need combination
    to be coherent).

    As it is,it appears to say that Bilbo decided to edit the three
    films (I suppose he might be looking for something to do in the
    Undying Lands,but putting up with our world's twisted adaptations
    of his life story seems a waste of his time to begin with).

    One may think that if they choose to ignore the quotes. If not, it
    should be clear that I was referring to the "someone else".
    --
    Bill O'Meally

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Bill O'Meally on Mon Jan 4 07:32:23 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.tolkien

    On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 21:22:03 -0500, Bill O'Meally wrote:

    I absolutely hated The Hobbit movies. I could not even bring myself to
    watch the third installment. Someone else ...
    decided to edit the three films into
    one by cutting out a lot of the non-cannonical, Jacksonesque fluff.

    https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com/

    Wow -- this edit dates back to 2015, but I had never heard of it.

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    Encyclopedia of Arda: http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.htm

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm on Mon Jan 4 09:37:20 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.tolkien

    On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 07:32:23 -0800, Stan Brown
    <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 21:22:03 -0500, Bill O'Meally wrote:

    I absolutely hated The Hobbit movies. I could not even bring myself to
    watch the third installment. Someone else ...
    decided to edit the three films into
    one by cutting out a lot of the non-cannonical, Jacksonesque fluff.

    https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com/

    Wow -- this edit dates back to 2015, but I had never heard of it.

    That probably has something to do with the person responsible not
    wanting to go to prison for criminal copyright infringement.

    Even the FBi can't arrest a perp if they don't know a crime has been
    committed.
    --
    "I begin to envy Petronius."
    "I have envied him long since."

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  • From O. Sharp@21:1/5 to Bill O'Meally on Mon Jan 4 21:36:36 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.tolkien

    Bill O'Meally <omeallymd@geemail.com> writes, in part:
    I absolutely hated The Hobbit movies. I could not even bring myself to
    watch the third installment. [...]

    I understand. You got one installment further than I did. :)

    Someone else [...] decided to edit the three films into
    one by cutting out a lot of the non-cannonical, Jacksonesque fluff.

    https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com/

    I watched some of it, and thought it was a definite improvement over the original. Mind you, I didn't get through this version either - honestly,
    I was surprised when I began to realize _The Hobbit_ just doesn't lend
    itself well to film to begin with - but at least _this_ time I didn't
    want to grab a letter-opener and stab whoever the hell was responsible
    for Radagast, so that alone was a definite improvement over the
    original. :)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    ohh@panix.com Though I have to admit, for a performance I
    watched only once, eight years ago, it certainly left
    an impression! Not a _good_ impression, mind you...

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 5 09:24:04 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.tolkien

    On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 21:36:36 +0000 (UTC), "O. Sharp" <ohh@panix.com>
    wrote:

    Bill O'Meally <omeallymd@geemail.com> writes, in part:
    I absolutely hated The Hobbit movies. I could not even bring myself to
    watch the third installment. [...]

    I understand. You got one installment further than I did. :)

    Someone else [...] decided to edit the three films into
    one by cutting out a lot of the non-cannonical, Jacksonesque fluff.

    https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com/

    I watched some of it, and thought it was a definite improvement over the >original. Mind you, I didn't get through this version either - honestly,
    I was surprised when I began to realize _The Hobbit_ just doesn't lend
    itself well to film to begin with - but at least _this_ time I didn't
    want to grab a letter-opener and stab whoever the hell was responsible
    for Radagast, so that alone was a definite improvement over the
    original. :)

    I've always felt the Rankin-Bass version captured it very well.

    Particularly considering the minor detail that /TH/ was written for
    children. Something PJ didn't so much ignore as not even notice.
    --
    "I begin to envy Petronius."
    "I have envied him long since."

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  • From Thomas Koenig@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 6 13:10:26 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.tolkien

    I watched the first of the Hobbit films, and after that, didn't
    bother to watch the other two. Simply not interesting.

    The paper version of "The Hobbit" that I have as an interesting
    typo. It says "This is a better adventure, if it must end so;
    and not a mountain of gold can amend it."

    Sort of changes the meaning by a lot...

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