• Scooby Doo White Female Character Can't Call Police Any More In Video G

    From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 12 12:41:08 2022
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    "Black & Indigenous people of color around the world have
    suffered under police brutality ..."

    Warner Brothers altered the video game "MultiVersus" last week to prevent the Scooby Doo character Velma from calling the police.

    For nearly 50 years, the Scooby Doo franchise has shown The Mystery Inc. gang solving crimes and alerting police to the presence of potential criminals.
    But critics have recently labeled Velma a "Karen" for doing precisely what
    had seemed innocent enough before, flashing a "wanted" poster and calling the cops on characters from across the Warner Bros. Discovery catalog.

    "Instead of calling the police, Velma now solves the mystery and calls the Mystery Inc. gang and the Mystery Machine to take the bad guys away," Warner Brothers games announced last week.

    One petition that drew a bare 34 signatures lambasted Warner Brothers,
    stating, "Although historically, the Scooby Doo gang has (but not always) worked with the police to catch the suspect within the cartoons, this cop car is _not_ necessary in the game nor does it add meaning to her moveset. For decades, and especially in recent times, Black & Indigenous people of color around the world have suffered under police brutality and this cop car is ignoring the problem of police brutality in this day in age."

    "We the players of MultiVersus demand the devs from Player First Games to please reconsider the ultimate art of the cop car chase to be replaced by the Mystery Machine van chase that Velma and her friends use to race around to catch the suspects in the cartoon," the petition continues.

    In August, one YouTuber tweeted, "I am enjoying Velma in Multiversus but maining a character who's special move is calling the police on her enemies definitely don't sit right with me as a black man lol," adding, "'Get em sheriff!' that shit kills me Karen ultimate."

    "Get em sheriff!" ?? that shit kills me

    Karen ultimate

    -- he who vibes (@NgObscure) August 1, 2022

    "A predominant feature of the 'Karen' stereotype is that they weaponise their relative privilege against people of colour -- for example, when making
    police complaints against black people for minor or even -- in numerous cases -- fictitious infringements," the BBC explains.

    According to VentureBeat, "MultiVersus," which was introduced in July,
    garnered over 20 million users in the first month it was available.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Mon Sep 12 11:20:54 2022
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    In article <tfnqvt$2aaap$3@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    "Black & Indigenous people of color around the world have
    suffered under police brutality ..."

    Warner Brothers altered the video game "MultiVersus" last week to prevent the Scooby Doo character Velma from calling the police.

    For nearly 50 years, the Scooby Doo franchise has shown The Mystery Inc. gang solving crimes and alerting police to the presence of potential criminals. But critics have recently labeled Velma a "Karen" for doing precisely what had seemed innocent enough before, flashing a "wanted" poster and calling the cops on characters from across the Warner Bros. Discovery catalog.

    "Instead of calling the police, Velma now solves the mystery and calls the Mystery Inc. gang and the Mystery Machine to take the bad guys away," Warner Brothers games announced last week.

    So not only does the game teach that calling the cops on criminals is
    somehow a bad thing, it justifies vigilantism by having civilians with
    no law enforcement authority whatsoever literally shove people into
    their van and kidnap them.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Mon Sep 12 13:04:27 2022
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    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <tfnqvt$2aaap$3@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    "Black & Indigenous people of color around the world have
    suffered under police brutality ..."

    Warner Brothers altered the video game "MultiVersus" last week to prevent the
    Scooby Doo character Velma from calling the police.

    For nearly 50 years, the Scooby Doo franchise has shown The Mystery Inc. gang
    solving crimes and alerting police to the presence of potential criminals. >> But critics have recently labeled Velma a "Karen" for doing precisely what >> had seemed innocent enough before, flashing a "wanted" poster and calling the
    cops on characters from across the Warner Bros. Discovery catalog.

    "Instead of calling the police, Velma now solves the mystery and calls the >> Mystery Inc. gang and the Mystery Machine to take the bad guys away," Warner >> Brothers games announced last week.

    So not only does the game teach that calling the cops on criminals is
    somehow a bad thing, it justifies vigilantism by having civilians with
    no law enforcement authority whatsoever literally shove people into
    their van and kidnap them.


    You do have to wonder what the gang does with the criminals if they won’t deal with the police…

    --
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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 12 16:31:21 2022
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    On 9/12/2022 4:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <tfnqvt$2aaap$3@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    "Black & Indigenous people of color around the world have
    suffered under police brutality ..."

    Warner Brothers altered the video game "MultiVersus" last week to prevent the
    Scooby Doo character Velma from calling the police.

    For nearly 50 years, the Scooby Doo franchise has shown The Mystery Inc. gang
    solving crimes and alerting police to the presence of potential criminals. >>> But critics have recently labeled Velma a "Karen" for doing precisely what >>> had seemed innocent enough before, flashing a "wanted" poster and calling the
    cops on characters from across the Warner Bros. Discovery catalog.

    "Instead of calling the police, Velma now solves the mystery and calls the >>> Mystery Inc. gang and the Mystery Machine to take the bad guys away," Warner
    Brothers games announced last week.

    So not only does the game teach that calling the cops on criminals is
    somehow a bad thing, it justifies vigilantism by having civilians with
    no law enforcement authority whatsoever literally shove people into
    their van and kidnap them.


    You do have to wonder what the gang does with the criminals if they won’t deal with the police…

    The 'Mystery Machine' is a Cuisinart...

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to anim8rfsk@cox.net on Mon Sep 12 20:50:32 2022
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    On Sep 12, 2022 at 1:04:27 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <tfnqvt$2aaap$3@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    "Black & Indigenous people of color around the world have
    suffered under police brutality ..."

    Warner Brothers altered the video game "MultiVersus" last week to prevent >>> the
    Scooby Doo character Velma from calling the police.

    For nearly 50 years, the Scooby Doo franchise has shown The Mystery Inc. >>> gang
    solving crimes and alerting police to the presence of potential criminals. >>> But critics have recently labeled Velma a "Karen" for doing precisely what >>> had seemed innocent enough before, flashing a "wanted" poster and calling >>> the
    cops on characters from across the Warner Bros. Discovery catalog.

    "Instead of calling the police, Velma now solves the mystery and calls the >>> Mystery Inc. gang and the Mystery Machine to take the bad guys away,"
    Warner
    Brothers games announced last week.

    So not only does the game teach that calling the cops on criminals is
    somehow a bad thing, it justifies vigilantism by having civilians with
    no law enforcement authority whatsoever literally shove people into
    their van and kidnap them.


    You do have to wonder what the gang does with the criminals if they won’t deal with the police…

    During the height of the BLM nonsense, one of the neighborhood busybodies-- a middle-aged guilt-ridden white woman, the most dangerous demographic in America-- was going door-to-door asking people to sign a pledge not to call
    the cops on any black person they catch or see committing a crime. (Apparently calling the cops on white criminals was still a-okay.)

    I told her that if I caught someone breaking into my house or vandalizing/stealing from my car, regardless of race, I'd not only call the cops on them, I'd pre-tune them up before the cops got there, to make sure
    they were nice and tenderized for the police when they arrived.

    If that old cartoon cliche of someone slowly turning red until steam started blasting out of their ears was a real thing, this biddy was demonstrating it. She said she was going to call BLM and organize a protest of my house. I told her to bring it and slammed the door in her face. Never heard from her again, although my landlord did text me that she'd gotten a call from some lady who wanted her to know "just who she was renting to" and who proceeded to describe what I'd told her. My landlord, who's even more conservative than I am, told her that not only didn't she care, she was considering giving me a discount on my rent for the month as a reward. I can only imagine how the biddy stroked
    out over *that*.

    Never did see that discount though...

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Mon Sep 12 17:35:18 2022
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    On 2022-09-12 12:41 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    "Black & Indigenous people of color around the world have
    suffered under police brutality ..."

    Warner Brothers altered the video game "MultiVersus" last week to prevent the Scooby Doo character Velma from calling the police.

    For nearly 50 years, the Scooby Doo franchise has shown The Mystery Inc. gang solving crimes and alerting police to the presence of potential criminals. But critics have recently labeled Velma a "Karen" for doing precisely what had seemed innocent enough before, flashing a "wanted" poster and calling the cops on characters from across the Warner Bros. Discovery catalog.

    "Instead of calling the police, Velma now solves the mystery and calls the Mystery Inc. gang and the Mystery Machine to take the bad guys away," Warner Brothers games announced last week.

    One petition that drew a bare 34 signatures lambasted Warner Brothers, stating, "Although historically, the Scooby Doo gang has (but not always) worked with the police to catch the suspect within the cartoons, this cop car is _not_ necessary in the game nor does it add meaning to her moveset. For decades, and especially in recent times, Black & Indigenous people of color around the world have suffered under police brutality and this cop car is ignoring the problem of police brutality in this day in age."

    "We the players of MultiVersus demand the devs from Player First Games to please reconsider the ultimate art of the cop car chase to be replaced by the Mystery Machine van chase that Velma and her friends use to race around to catch the suspects in the cartoon," the petition continues.

    In August, one YouTuber tweeted, "I am enjoying Velma in Multiversus but maining a character who's special move is calling the police on her enemies definitely don't sit right with me as a black man lol," adding, "'Get em sheriff!' that shit kills me Karen ultimate."

    "Get em sheriff!" ?? that shit kills me

    Karen ultimate

    -- he who vibes (@NgObscure) August 1, 2022

    "A predominant feature of the 'Karen' stereotype is that they weaponise their relative privilege against people of colour -- for example, when making police complaints against black people for minor or even -- in numerous cases -- fictitious infringements," the BBC explains.

    According to VentureBeat, "MultiVersus," which was introduced in July, garnered over 20 million users in the first month it was available.

    20 million people played it and 34 complained so they made the change
    requested
    by the miniscule number of complainers? It's going to be interesting to
    see how the 20 million respond to this change. It's going to be funny if
    many thousands of people now complain about the changes they made to
    pander to the tiny handful of complainers - and play something else
    instead. I think this is going to be another case of "go woke, go broke!"



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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to no_offline_contact@example.com on Mon Sep 12 19:33:53 2022
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    no_offline_contact@example.com wrote:
    On 2022-09-12 12:41 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    "Black & Indigenous people of color around the world have
    suffered under police brutality ..."

    Warner Brothers altered the video game "MultiVersus" last week to prevent
    the Scooby Doo character Velma from calling the police.

    For nearly 50 years, the Scooby Doo franchise has shown The Mystery Inc.
    gang solving crimes and alerting police to the presence of potential
    criminals. But critics have recently labeled Velma a "Karen" for doing
    precisely what had seemed innocent enough before, flashing a "wanted"
    poster and calling the cops on characters from across the Warner Bros.
    Discovery catalog.

    "Instead of calling the police, Velma now solves the mystery and calls the >> Mystery Inc. gang and the Mystery Machine to take the bad guys away,"
    Warner Brothers games announced last week.

    One petition that drew a bare 34 signatures lambasted Warner Brothers,
    stating, "Although historically, the Scooby Doo gang has (but not always)
    worked with the police to catch the suspect within the cartoons, this cop
    car is _not_ necessary in the game nor does it add meaning to her moveset. >> For decades, and especially in recent times, Black & Indigenous people of
    color around the world have suffered under police brutality and this cop
    car is ignoring the problem of police brutality in this day in age."

    "We the players of MultiVersus demand the devs from Player First Games to
    please reconsider the ultimate art of the cop car chase to be replaced by
    the Mystery Machine van chase that Velma and her friends use to race
    around to catch the suspects in the cartoon," the petition continues.

    In August, one YouTuber tweeted, "I am enjoying Velma in Multiversus but
    maining a character who's special move is calling the police on her
    enemies definitely don't sit right with me as a black man lol," adding,
    "'Get em sheriff!' that shit kills me Karen ultimate."

    "Get em sheriff!" ?? that shit kills me

    Karen ultimate

    -- he who vibes (@NgObscure) August 1, 2022

    "A predominant feature of the 'Karen' stereotype is that they weaponise
    their relative privilege against people of colour -- for example, when
    making police complaints against black people for minor or even -- in
    numerous cases -- fictitious infringements," the BBC explains.

    According to VentureBeat, "MultiVersus," which was introduced in July,
    garnered over 20 million users in the first month it was available.

    20 million people played it and 34 complained so they made the change >requested by the miniscule number of complainers? It's going to be >interesting to see how the 20 million respond to this change. It's going
    to be funny if many thousands of people now complain about the changes they >made to pander to the tiny handful of complainers - and play something else >instead. I think this is going to be another case of "go woke, go broke!"

    Customers quitting en mass is the only way those woke wankers will learn that lesson.

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    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to pwallace@moviepig.com on Mon Sep 12 19:36:30 2022
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    In article <tGMTK.169961$9Yp5.149681@fx12.iad>, pwallace@moviepig.com wrote:
    On 9/12/2022 4:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    So not only does the game teach that calling the cops on criminals is
    somehow a bad thing, it justifies vigilantism by having civilians with
    no law enforcement authority whatsoever literally shove people into
    their van and kidnap them.

    You do have to wonder what the gang does with the criminals if they won't
    deal with the police…

    The 'Mystery Machine' is a Cuisinart...

    Actually, it was a nickname for Velma's nether regions.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Mon Sep 12 17:15:55 2022
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    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Sep 12, 2022 at 1:04:27 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <tfnqvt$2aaap$3@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    "Black & Indigenous people of color around the world have
    suffered under police brutality ..."

    Warner Brothers altered the video game "MultiVersus" last week to prevent >>> the
    Scooby Doo character Velma from calling the police.

    For nearly 50 years, the Scooby Doo franchise has shown The Mystery Inc. >>> gang
    solving crimes and alerting police to the presence of potential criminals. >>>> But critics have recently labeled Velma a "Karen" for doing precisely what >>>> had seemed innocent enough before, flashing a "wanted" poster and calling >>> the
    cops on characters from across the Warner Bros. Discovery catalog.

    "Instead of calling the police, Velma now solves the mystery and calls the >>>> Mystery Inc. gang and the Mystery Machine to take the bad guys away,"
    Warner
    Brothers games announced last week.

    So not only does the game teach that calling the cops on criminals is
    somehow a bad thing, it justifies vigilantism by having civilians with
    no law enforcement authority whatsoever literally shove people into
    their van and kidnap them.


    You do have to wonder what the gang does with the criminals if they won’t >> deal with the police…

    During the height of the BLM nonsense, one of the neighborhood busybodies-- a
    middle-aged guilt-ridden white woman, the most dangerous demographic in America-- was going door-to-door asking people to sign a pledge not to call
    the cops on any black person they catch or see committing a crime.
    (Apparently
    calling the cops on white criminals was still a-okay.)

    I told her that if I caught someone breaking into my house or
    vandalizing/stealing from my car, regardless of race, I'd not only call the cops on them, I'd pre-tune them up before the cops got there, to make sure
    they were nice and tenderized for the police when they arrived.

    If that old cartoon cliche of someone slowly turning red until steam started
    blasting out of their ears was a real thing, this biddy was demonstrating
    it.
    She said she was going to call BLM and organize a protest of my house. I
    told
    her to bring it and slammed the door in her face. Never heard from her
    again,
    although my landlord did text me that she'd gotten a call from some lady
    who
    wanted her to know "just who she was renting to" and who proceeded to
    describe
    what I'd told her. My landlord, who's even more conservative than I am,
    told
    her that not only didn't she care, she was considering giving me a
    discount on
    my rent for the month as a reward. I can only imagine how the biddy stroked
    out over *that*.

    Never did see that discount though...




    Lol

    --
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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Rhino on Mon Sep 12 17:15:56 2022
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    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2022-09-12 12:41 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    "Black & Indigenous people of color around the world have
    suffered under police brutality ..."

    Warner Brothers altered the video game "MultiVersus" last week to prevent the
    Scooby Doo character Velma from calling the police.

    For nearly 50 years, the Scooby Doo franchise has shown The Mystery Inc. gang
    solving crimes and alerting police to the presence of potential criminals. >> But critics have recently labeled Velma a "Karen" for doing precisely what >> had seemed innocent enough before, flashing a "wanted" poster and calling the
    cops on characters from across the Warner Bros. Discovery catalog.

    "Instead of calling the police, Velma now solves the mystery and calls the >> Mystery Inc. gang and the Mystery Machine to take the bad guys away," Warner >> Brothers games announced last week.

    One petition that drew a bare 34 signatures lambasted Warner Brothers,
    stating, "Although historically, the Scooby Doo gang has (but not always)
    worked with the police to catch the suspect within the cartoons, this cop car
    is _not_ necessary in the game nor does it add meaning to her moveset. For >> decades, and especially in recent times, Black & Indigenous people of color >> around the world have suffered under police brutality and this cop car is
    ignoring the problem of police brutality in this day in age."

    "We the players of MultiVersus demand the devs from Player First Games to
    please reconsider the ultimate art of the cop car chase to be replaced by the
    Mystery Machine van chase that Velma and her friends use to race around to >> catch the suspects in the cartoon," the petition continues.

    In August, one YouTuber tweeted, "I am enjoying Velma in Multiversus but
    maining a character who's special move is calling the police on her enemies >> definitely don't sit right with me as a black man lol," adding, "'Get em
    sheriff!' that shit kills me Karen ultimate."

    "Get em sheriff!" ?? that shit kills me

    Karen ultimate

    -- he who vibes (@NgObscure) August 1, 2022

    "A predominant feature of the 'Karen' stereotype is that they weaponise their
    relative privilege against people of colour -- for example, when making
    police complaints against black people for minor or even -- in numerous cases
    -- fictitious infringements," the BBC explains.

    According to VentureBeat, "MultiVersus," which was introduced in July,
    garnered over 20 million users in the first month it was available.

    20 million people played it and 34 complained so they made the change requested
    by the miniscule number of complainers? It's going to be interesting to
    see how the 20 million respond to this change. It's going to be funny if
    many thousands of people now complain about the changes they made to
    pander to the tiny handful of complainers - and play something else
    instead. I think this is going to be another case of "go woke, go broke!"


    Back in the late great days of laser disk, s company was producing these
    huge box sets, multi platter, multi hundreds of dollars. Of all the Looney Tunes cartoons. I believe it was called the golden age of Looney Tunes. One
    set had a World War II propaganda cartoon on it called “Bugs Bunny nips the nips“
    They got one complaint, count them, one, from some mother in Ohio who
    didn’t think her kids should be seeing that cartoon.
    They canceled and recalled and eradicated every copy in existence that they could (I still have mine) and said they were going to re-issue it without
    that one cartoon (I don’t know if they ever actually did).

    One. Complaint.

    One.

    There are a lot of segments from it on the YouTube. Here’s one now!

    https://youtu.be/qL0s0fEjnXg

    Ian describes it in great detail here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugs_Bunny_Nips_the_Nips?wprov=sfti1



    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 13 10:06:44 2022
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    On 2022-09-12 8:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2022-09-12 12:41 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    "Black & Indigenous people of color around the world have
    suffered under police brutality ..."

    Warner Brothers altered the video game "MultiVersus" last week to prevent the
    Scooby Doo character Velma from calling the police.

    For nearly 50 years, the Scooby Doo franchise has shown The Mystery Inc. gang
    solving crimes and alerting police to the presence of potential criminals. >>> But critics have recently labeled Velma a "Karen" for doing precisely what >>> had seemed innocent enough before, flashing a "wanted" poster and calling the
    cops on characters from across the Warner Bros. Discovery catalog.

    "Instead of calling the police, Velma now solves the mystery and calls the >>> Mystery Inc. gang and the Mystery Machine to take the bad guys away," Warner
    Brothers games announced last week.

    One petition that drew a bare 34 signatures lambasted Warner Brothers,
    stating, "Although historically, the Scooby Doo gang has (but not always) >>> worked with the police to catch the suspect within the cartoons, this cop car
    is _not_ necessary in the game nor does it add meaning to her moveset. For >>> decades, and especially in recent times, Black & Indigenous people of color >>> around the world have suffered under police brutality and this cop car is >>> ignoring the problem of police brutality in this day in age."

    "We the players of MultiVersus demand the devs from Player First Games to >>> please reconsider the ultimate art of the cop car chase to be replaced by the
    Mystery Machine van chase that Velma and her friends use to race around to >>> catch the suspects in the cartoon," the petition continues.

    In August, one YouTuber tweeted, "I am enjoying Velma in Multiversus but >>> maining a character who's special move is calling the police on her enemies >>> definitely don't sit right with me as a black man lol," adding, "'Get em >>> sheriff!' that shit kills me Karen ultimate."

    "Get em sheriff!" ?? that shit kills me

    Karen ultimate

    -- he who vibes (@NgObscure) August 1, 2022

    "A predominant feature of the 'Karen' stereotype is that they weaponise their
    relative privilege against people of colour -- for example, when making
    police complaints against black people for minor or even -- in numerous cases
    -- fictitious infringements," the BBC explains.

    According to VentureBeat, "MultiVersus," which was introduced in July,
    garnered over 20 million users in the first month it was available.

    20 million people played it and 34 complained so they made the change
    requested
    by the miniscule number of complainers? It's going to be interesting to
    see how the 20 million respond to this change. It's going to be funny if
    many thousands of people now complain about the changes they made to
    pander to the tiny handful of complainers - and play something else
    instead. I think this is going to be another case of "go woke, go broke!"


    Back in the late great days of laser disk, s company was producing these
    huge box sets, multi platter, multi hundreds of dollars. Of all the Looney Tunes cartoons. I believe it was called the golden age of Looney Tunes. One set had a World War II propaganda cartoon on it called “Bugs Bunny nips the nips“
    They got one complaint, count them, one, from some mother in Ohio who didn’t think her kids should be seeing that cartoon.
    They canceled and recalled and eradicated every copy in existence that they could (I still have mine) and said they were going to re-issue it without that one cartoon (I don’t know if they ever actually did).

    One. Complaint.

    One.

    There are a lot of segments from it on the YouTube. Here’s one now!

    https://youtu.be/qL0s0fEjnXg

    Ian describes it in great detail here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugs_Bunny_Nips_the_Nips?wprov=sfti1

    It's like the idiocy of banning license plates that a single person
    finds "offensive". I've mentioned several such cases from this country.
    Why do we pander to this nonsense? Where is the great harm if a tiny
    number of people are offended by something? Or even a large number of
    people? I am CONSTANTLY offended by this "woke" crap and no one panders
    to me. I complain and then live with it, rolling my eyes fairly
    frequently, and life goes on. What is wrong with THAT as a model for living?


    --
    Rhino

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  • From Nyssa@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 13 09:22:08 2022
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    anim8rfsk wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2022-09-12 12:41 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    "Black & Indigenous people of color around the world
    have suffered under police brutality ..."

    Warner Brothers altered the video game "MultiVersus"
    last week to prevent the Scooby Doo character Velma from
    calling the police.

    For nearly 50 years, the Scooby Doo franchise has shown
    The Mystery Inc. gang solving crimes and alerting police
    to the presence of potential criminals. But critics have
    recently labeled Velma a "Karen" for doing precisely
    what had seemed innocent enough before, flashing a
    "wanted" poster and calling the cops on characters from
    across the Warner Bros. Discovery catalog.

    "Instead of calling the police, Velma now solves the
    mystery and calls the Mystery Inc. gang and the Mystery
    Machine to take the bad guys away," Warner Brothers
    games announced last week.

    One petition that drew a bare 34 signatures lambasted
    Warner Brothers, stating, "Although historically, the
    Scooby Doo gang has (but not always) worked with the
    police to catch the suspect within the cartoons, this
    cop car is _not_ necessary in the game nor does it add
    meaning to her moveset. For decades, and especially in
    recent times, Black & Indigenous people of color around
    the world have suffered under police brutality and this
    cop car is ignoring the problem of police brutality in
    this day in age."

    "We the players of MultiVersus demand the devs from
    Player First Games to please reconsider the ultimate art
    of the cop car chase to be replaced by the Mystery
    Machine van chase that Velma and her friends use to race
    around to catch the suspects in the cartoon," the
    petition continues.

    In August, one YouTuber tweeted, "I am enjoying Velma in
    Multiversus but maining a character who's special move
    is calling the police on her enemies definitely don't
    sit right with me as a black man lol," adding, "'Get em
    sheriff!' that shit kills me Karen ultimate."

    "Get em sheriff!" ?? that shit kills me

    Karen ultimate

    -- he who vibes (@NgObscure) August 1, 2022

    "A predominant feature of the 'Karen' stereotype is that
    they weaponise their relative privilege against people
    of colour -- for example, when making police complaints
    against black people for minor or even -- in numerous
    cases -- fictitious infringements," the BBC explains.

    According to VentureBeat, "MultiVersus," which was
    introduced in July, garnered over 20 million users in
    the first month it was available.

    20 million people played it and 34 complained so they
    made the change requested
    by the miniscule number of complainers? It's going to be
    interesting to see how the 20 million respond to this
    change. It's going to be funny if many thousands of
    people now complain about the changes they made to pander
    to the tiny handful of complainers - and play something
    else instead. I think this is going to be another case of
    "go woke, go broke!"


    Back in the late great days of laser disk, s company was
    producing these huge box sets, multi platter, multi
    hundreds of dollars. Of all the Looney Tunes cartoons. I
    believe it was called the golden age of Looney Tunes. One
    set had a World War II propaganda cartoon on it called
    ?Bugs Bunny nips the nips? They got one complaint, count
    them, one, from some mother in Ohio who didn?t think her
    kids should be seeing that cartoon. They canceled and
    recalled and eradicated every copy in existence that they
    could (I still have mine) and said they were going to
    re-issue it without that one cartoon (I don?t know if they
    ever actually did).

    One. Complaint.

    One.

    There are a lot of segments from it on the YouTube. Here?s
    one now!

    https://youtu.be/qL0s0fEjnXg

    Ian describes it in great detail here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugs_Bunny_Nips_the_Nips?wprov=sfti1



    I've got the VHS version of the WWII Looney Tunes cartoons
    with some bozo narrator "explaining" them.

    I'll have to re-check it out to see if the Nips cartoon
    is included.

    I also have the multi boxsets of the Golden Age of Looney
    Tunes, but I doubt the Nips cartoon is on any of them
    since the release dates are well past that one Ohio
    person's complaints. I'll check 'em anyway.

    Nyssa, who some day might actually get around to watching
    all of those DVDs

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 13 09:09:43 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.games.video.misc

    On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 17:15:56 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    <snippo>

    Back in the late great days of laser disk, s company was producing these
    huge box sets, multi platter, multi hundreds of dollars. Of all the Looney >Tunes cartoons. I believe it was called the golden age of Looney Tunes. One >set had a World War II propaganda cartoon on it called Bugs Bunny nips the >nips
    They got one complaint, count them, one, from some mother in Ohio who
    didnt think her kids should be seeing that cartoon.
    They canceled and recalled and eradicated every copy in existence that they >could (I still have mine) and said they were going to re-issue it without >that one cartoon (I dont know if they ever actually did).

    One. Complaint.

    One.

    There are a lot of segments from it on the YouTube. Heres one now!

    https://youtu.be/qL0s0fEjnXg

    Ian describes it in great detail here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugs_Bunny_Nips_the_Nips?wprov=sfti1

    I'm surprised there was only 1 cartoon that caused problems.

    There are many many cartoons that one would expect to cause problems.

    Racist times produce racist cinema. And war produces propaganda, often
    racist.

    A more recent (now about two decades old, BTW) custom appears to have
    two parts:
    1. Include clear and obvious statements on the packaging that the
    contents may be disturbing/repulsive to some viewers.
    2. Require he viewer to start each individual cartoon separately, so
    kids can get ahold of it and just watch all of them in sequence.

    Except for Disney. The Disney approach was bowlderization. Which
    apparently had some hilarious results.

    And those older cartoons that are out of copyright appear on many
    DVDs. These things are out there.
    --
    "In this connexion, unquestionably the most significant
    development was the disintegration, under Christian
    influence, of classical conceptions of the family and
    of family right."

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue Sep 13 09:01:00 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.games.video.misc

    On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 11:20:54 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <tfnqvt$2aaap$3@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    "Black & Indigenous people of color around the world have
    suffered under police brutality ..."

    Warner Brothers altered the video game "MultiVersus" last week to prevent the
    Scooby Doo character Velma from calling the police.

    For nearly 50 years, the Scooby Doo franchise has shown The Mystery Inc. gang
    solving crimes and alerting police to the presence of potential criminals. >> But critics have recently labeled Velma a "Karen" for doing precisely what >> had seemed innocent enough before, flashing a "wanted" poster and calling the
    cops on characters from across the Warner Bros. Discovery catalog.

    "Instead of calling the police, Velma now solves the mystery and calls the >> Mystery Inc. gang and the Mystery Machine to take the bad guys away," Warner >> Brothers games announced last week.

    So not only does the game teach that calling the cops on criminals is
    somehow a bad thing, it justifies vigilantism by having civilians with
    no law enforcement authority whatsoever literally shove people into
    their van and kidnap them.

    That's what unlabled unnanounced alleged "federal officers" did in
    Portland, and the local police, seeing an obvious kidnapping with
    their own eyes, did ... nothing.

    So, apparently, this is no longer a crime. At least if "they" are
    being kidnapped.

    Note: these mysterious boyos eventually established themselves as
    legitimate and were required /by a Judge/ to each wear an identifying
    number when they went outside, said number to be:
    1. Different for each officer.
    2. For each officer, the same number each time.
    3. Associated on a list with that officer's name.

    They also managed to "help" the situatioin by boosting the number of
    protestors form around 100 to over 1000 in one day. Prolonging a
    problem, IOW, that was just about to go away.
    --
    "In this connexion, unquestionably the most significant
    development was the disintegration, under Christian
    influence, of classical conceptions of the family and
    of family right."

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Rhino on Tue Sep 13 09:35:22 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.games.video.misc

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2022-09-12 8:15 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2022-09-12 12:41 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    "Black & Indigenous people of color around the world have
    suffered under police brutality ..."

    Warner Brothers altered the video game "MultiVersus" last week to prevent the
    Scooby Doo character Velma from calling the police.

    For nearly 50 years, the Scooby Doo franchise has shown The Mystery Inc. gang
    solving crimes and alerting police to the presence of potential criminals. >>>> But critics have recently labeled Velma a "Karen" for doing precisely what >>>> had seemed innocent enough before, flashing a "wanted" poster and calling the
    cops on characters from across the Warner Bros. Discovery catalog.

    "Instead of calling the police, Velma now solves the mystery and calls the >>>> Mystery Inc. gang and the Mystery Machine to take the bad guys away," Warner
    Brothers games announced last week.

    One petition that drew a bare 34 signatures lambasted Warner Brothers, >>>> stating, "Although historically, the Scooby Doo gang has (but not always) >>>> worked with the police to catch the suspect within the cartoons, this cop car
    is _not_ necessary in the game nor does it add meaning to her moveset. For >>>> decades, and especially in recent times, Black & Indigenous people of color
    around the world have suffered under police brutality and this cop car is >>>> ignoring the problem of police brutality in this day in age."

    "We the players of MultiVersus demand the devs from Player First Games to >>>> please reconsider the ultimate art of the cop car chase to be replaced by the
    Mystery Machine van chase that Velma and her friends use to race around to >>>> catch the suspects in the cartoon," the petition continues.

    In August, one YouTuber tweeted, "I am enjoying Velma in Multiversus but >>>> maining a character who's special move is calling the police on her enemies
    definitely don't sit right with me as a black man lol," adding, "'Get em >>>> sheriff!' that shit kills me Karen ultimate."

    "Get em sheriff!" ?? that shit kills me

    Karen ultimate

    -- he who vibes (@NgObscure) August 1, 2022

    "A predominant feature of the 'Karen' stereotype is that they weaponise their
    relative privilege against people of colour -- for example, when making >>>> police complaints against black people for minor or even -- in numerous cases
    -- fictitious infringements," the BBC explains.

    According to VentureBeat, "MultiVersus," which was introduced in July, >>>> garnered over 20 million users in the first month it was available.

    20 million people played it and 34 complained so they made the change
    requested
    by the miniscule number of complainers? It's going to be interesting to
    see how the 20 million respond to this change. It's going to be funny if >>> many thousands of people now complain about the changes they made to
    pander to the tiny handful of complainers - and play something else
    instead. I think this is going to be another case of "go woke, go broke!" >>>

    Back in the late great days of laser disk, s company was producing these
    huge box sets, multi platter, multi hundreds of dollars. Of all the Looney >> Tunes cartoons. I believe it was called the golden age of Looney Tunes. One >> set had a World War II propaganda cartoon on it called “Bugs Bunny nips the
    nips“
    They got one complaint, count them, one, from some mother in Ohio who
    didn’t think her kids should be seeing that cartoon.
    They canceled and recalled and eradicated every copy in existence that they >> could (I still have mine) and said they were going to re-issue it without
    that one cartoon (I don’t know if they ever actually did).

    One. Complaint.

    One.

    There are a lot of segments from it on the YouTube. Here’s one now!

    https://youtu.be/qL0s0fEjnXg

    Ian describes it in great detail here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugs_Bunny_Nips_the_Nips?wprov=sfti1

    It's like the idiocy of banning license plates that a single person
    finds "offensive". I've mentioned several such cases from this country.
    Why do we pander to this nonsense? Where is the great harm if a tiny
    number of people are offended by something? Or even a large number of
    people? I am CONSTANTLY offended by this "woke" crap and no one panders
    to me. I complain and then live with it, rolling my eyes fairly
    frequently, and life goes on. What is wrong with THAT as a model for living?



    +1

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Nyssa on Tue Sep 13 09:35:21 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.games.video.misc

    Nyssa <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2022-09-12 12:41 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    "Black & Indigenous people of color around the world
    have suffered under police brutality ..."

    Warner Brothers altered the video game "MultiVersus"
    last week to prevent the Scooby Doo character Velma from
    calling the police.

    For nearly 50 years, the Scooby Doo franchise has shown
    The Mystery Inc. gang solving crimes and alerting police
    to the presence of potential criminals. But critics have
    recently labeled Velma a "Karen" for doing precisely
    what had seemed innocent enough before, flashing a
    "wanted" poster and calling the cops on characters from
    across the Warner Bros. Discovery catalog.

    "Instead of calling the police, Velma now solves the
    mystery and calls the Mystery Inc. gang and the Mystery
    Machine to take the bad guys away," Warner Brothers
    games announced last week.

    One petition that drew a bare 34 signatures lambasted
    Warner Brothers, stating, "Although historically, the
    Scooby Doo gang has (but not always) worked with the
    police to catch the suspect within the cartoons, this
    cop car is _not_ necessary in the game nor does it add
    meaning to her moveset. For decades, and especially in
    recent times, Black & Indigenous people of color around
    the world have suffered under police brutality and this
    cop car is ignoring the problem of police brutality in
    this day in age."

    "We the players of MultiVersus demand the devs from
    Player First Games to please reconsider the ultimate art
    of the cop car chase to be replaced by the Mystery
    Machine van chase that Velma and her friends use to race
    around to catch the suspects in the cartoon," the
    petition continues.

    In August, one YouTuber tweeted, "I am enjoying Velma in
    Multiversus but maining a character who's special move
    is calling the police on her enemies definitely don't
    sit right with me as a black man lol," adding, "'Get em
    sheriff!' that shit kills me Karen ultimate."

    "Get em sheriff!" ?? that shit kills me

    Karen ultimate

    -- he who vibes (@NgObscure) August 1, 2022

    "A predominant feature of the 'Karen' stereotype is that
    they weaponise their relative privilege against people
    of colour -- for example, when making police complaints
    against black people for minor or even -- in numerous
    cases -- fictitious infringements," the BBC explains.

    According to VentureBeat, "MultiVersus," which was
    introduced in July, garnered over 20 million users in
    the first month it was available.

    20 million people played it and 34 complained so they
    made the change requested
    by the miniscule number of complainers? It's going to be
    interesting to see how the 20 million respond to this
    change. It's going to be funny if many thousands of
    people now complain about the changes they made to pander
    to the tiny handful of complainers - and play something
    else instead. I think this is going to be another case of
    "go woke, go broke!"


    Back in the late great days of laser disk, s company was
    producing these huge box sets, multi platter, multi
    hundreds of dollars. Of all the Looney Tunes cartoons. I
    believe it was called the golden age of Looney Tunes. One
    set had a World War II propaganda cartoon on it called
    ?Bugs Bunny nips the nips? They got one complaint, count
    them, one, from some mother in Ohio who didn?t think her
    kids should be seeing that cartoon. They canceled and
    recalled and eradicated every copy in existence that they
    could (I still have mine) and said they were going to
    re-issue it without that one cartoon (I don?t know if they
    ever actually did).

    One. Complaint.

    One.

    There are a lot of segments from it on the YouTube. Here?s
    one now!

    https://youtu.be/qL0s0fEjnXg

    Ian describes it in great detail here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugs_Bunny_Nips_the_Nips?wprov=sfti1



    I've got the VHS version of the WWII Looney Tunes cartoons
    with some bozo narrator "explaining" them.

    Ack!


    I'll have to re-check it out to see if the Nips cartoon
    is included.

    I also have the multi boxsets of the Golden Age of Looney
    Tunes, but I doubt the Nips cartoon is on any of them
    since the release dates are well past that one Ohio
    person's complaints. I'll check 'em anyway.

    Yeah, it could be possible somebody refused to ship them back.


    Nyssa, who some day might actually get around to watching
    all of those DVDs



    :)

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Paul S Person on Tue Sep 13 20:07:02 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.games.video.misc

    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 17:15:56 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    . . .

    I'm surprised there was only 1 cartoon that caused problems.

    There are many many cartoons that one would expect to cause problems.

    Racist times produce racist cinema.

    Every time in history is a racist time. I have absolutely no doubt that
    people in future will look down upon the inferiority of human social
    structures and the way we entertain and communicate in the decades that
    I've lived in. Of course we are also going to be laughing stocks.

    And war produces propaganda, often racist.

    That's unfair. The conflicts that led to WWII had absolutely nothing to
    do with an adversarial relationship between the Empire of Japan and the
    United States due to racism.

    War is about KILLING THE ENEMY. They want to kill us. We want to kill
    them. Propoganda is used to make the enemy as unsympathetic as possible.
    Japan produced its own propoganda, none of which made the people of the
    United States sympathetic.

    There was racism versus Chinese immigrants to the western United States,
    which was blatant. And yet, diplomatically and militarily, the United
    States and China were allies prior to Mao's successful revolution.

    A more recent (now about two decades old, BTW) custom appears to have
    two parts:
    1. Include clear and obvious statements on the packaging that the
    contents may be disturbing/repulsive to some viewers.
    2. Require he viewer to start each individual cartoon separately, so
    kids can get ahold of it and just watch all of them in sequence.

    Except for Disney. The Disney approach was bowlderization. Which
    apparently had some hilarious results.

    Good point

    And those older cartoons that are out of copyright appear on many
    DVDs. These things are out there.

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  • From AWORio@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 13 15:52:40 2022
    Zzzzz

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From AWORio@21:1/5 to ahk@chinet.com on Tue Sep 13 15:52:40 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.games.video.misc

    In article <tfqnt6$2lmgm$1@dont-email.me>, ahk@chinet.com wrote:


    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 17:15:56 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    . . .

    I'm surprised there was only 1 cartoon that caused problems.

    There are many many cartoons that one would expect to cause problems.

    Racist times produce racist cinema.

    Every time in history is a racist time. I have absolutely no doubt that >people in future will look down upon the inferiority of human social >structures and the way we entertain and communicate in the decades that
    I've lived in. Of course we are also going to be laughing stocks.

    And war produces propaganda, often racist.

    That's unfair. The conflicts that led to WWII had absolutely nothing to
    do with an adversarial relationship between the Empire of Japan and the >United States due to racism.

    War is about KILLING THE ENEMY. They want to kill us. We want to kill
    them. Propoganda is used to make the enemy as unsympathetic as possible. >Japan produced its own propoganda, none of which made the people of the >United States sympathetic.

    There was racism versus Chinese immigrants to the western United States, >which was blatant. And yet, diplomatically and militarily, the United
    States and China were allies prior to Mao's successful revolution.

    A more recent (now about two decades old, BTW) custom appears to have
    two parts:
    1. Include clear and obvious statements on the packaging that the
    contents may be disturbing/repulsive to some viewers.
    2. Require he viewer to start each individual cartoon separately, so
    kids can get ahold of it and just watch all of them in sequence.

    Except for Disney. The Disney approach was bowlderization. Which
    apparently had some hilarious results.

    Good point

    And those older cartoons that are out of copyright appear on many
    DVDs. These things are out there.


    Zzzzz
    

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to ahk@chinet.com on Wed Sep 14 09:07:49 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.games.video.misc

    On Tue, 13 Sep 2022 20:07:02 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 17:15:56 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    . . .

    I'm surprised there was only 1 cartoon that caused problems.

    There are many many cartoons that one would expect to cause problems.

    Racist times produce racist cinema.

    Every time in history is a racist time. I have absolutely no doubt that >people in future will look down upon the inferiority of human social >structures and the way we entertain and communicate in the decades that
    I've lived in. Of course we are also going to be laughing stocks.

    Looks like I punched a button here.

    And war produces propaganda, often racist.

    That's unfair. The conflicts that led to WWII had absolutely nothing to
    do with an adversarial relationship between the Empire of Japan and the >United States due to racism.

    Looks like I punched a button here too.

    The Naval Attache to Japan, in the late 30s, reported faithfully to
    his superior that Japan had an aircraft that could beat the socks off
    of anything the USA had. That superior, a racist who believed that no
    yellow man could do anything better than any white man, trashed the
    report. One reason for the success of Japanese aviation in the early
    part of the war was because of /our/ racism towards /them/.

    War is about KILLING THE ENEMY. They want to kill us. We want to kill
    them. Propoganda is used to make the enemy as unsympathetic as possible. >Japan produced its own propoganda, none of which made the people of the >United States sympathetic.

    Wow, that button must have been pressed real hard!

    My maternal grandparents had their house egged in WWI because their
    name (Steinhoff) was German. You might want to look at how Germans
    were portrayed, and realize that racism applied to the various other
    "white" races as well as to all the others.

    There was racism versus Chinese immigrants to the western United States, >which was blatant. And yet, diplomatically and militarily, the United
    States and China were allies prior to Mao's successful revolution.

    Diplomacy is not domestic behavior.

    A more recent (now about two decades old, BTW) custom appears to have
    two parts:
    1. Include clear and obvious statements on the packaging that the
    contents may be disturbing/repulsive to some viewers.
    2. Require he viewer to start each individual cartoon separately, so
    kids can get ahold of it and just watch all of them in sequence.

    Except for Disney. The Disney approach was bowlderization. Which
    apparently had some hilarious results.

    Good point

    And those older cartoons that are out of copyright appear on many
    DVDs. These things are out there.
    --
    "In this connexion, unquestionably the most significant
    development was the disintegration, under Christian
    influence, of classical conceptions of the family and
    of family right."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Paul S Person on Wed Sep 14 17:12:32 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.games.video.misc

    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    Tue, 13 Sep 2022 20:07:02 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 17:15:56 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    . . .

    I'm surprised there was only 1 cartoon that caused problems.

    There are many many cartoons that one would expect to cause problems.

    Racist times produce racist cinema.

    Every time in history is a racist time. I have absolutely no doubt that >>people in future will look down upon the inferiority of human social >>structures and the way we entertain and communicate in the decades that >>I've lived in. Of course we are also going to be laughing stocks.

    Looks like I punched a button here.

    You're kidding, right? Every historian writes history as filtered
    through his own experiences and perceptions. It's literally impossible
    to write history in the context of the era being described. Because of
    this, people in future are inclined to look down upon the social
    attitudes and social structures of the past, always telling themselves
    that human existence has always built upon the past and there are never
    any setbacks. It's just straight progress.

    People kid themselves.

    And war produces propaganda, often racist.

    That's unfair. The conflicts that led to WWII had absolutely nothing to
    do with an adversarial relationship between the Empire of Japan and the >>United States due to racism.

    Looks like I punched a button here too.

    The Naval Attache to Japan, in the late 30s, reported faithfully to
    his superior that Japan had an aircraft that could beat the socks off
    of anything the USA had. That superior, a racist who believed that no
    yellow man could do anything better than any white man, trashed the
    report. One reason for the success of Japanese aviation in the early
    part of the war was because of /our/ racism towards /them/.

    I am not disputing that, and you've made a very good point about willful ignorance. I am disputing the notion that racism is one of the
    causes of the war between the United States and Japan and that the
    existence of anti-Japanese propoganda made during the war is evidence of
    deadly racists attitudes that existed prior to the war and therefore
    caused the war.

    Others have made that argument explicity in recent years, without
    offering evidence.

    War is about KILLING THE ENEMY. They want to kill us. We want to kill
    them. Propoganda is used to make the enemy as unsympathetic as possible. >>Japan produced its own propoganda, none of which made the people of the >>United States sympathetic.

    Wow, that button must have been pressed real hard!

    My maternal grandparents had their house egged in WWI because their
    name (Steinhoff) was German. You might want to look at how Germans
    were portrayed, and realize that racism applied to the various other
    "white" races as well as to all the others.

    Let's not call that racism, ok? Yes, I am well aware of how much
    anti-German sentiment existed during the WWI era, and we all recall that
    the Royal House of England was renamed "House of Windsor" hoping that
    all UK subjects would ignore that they had to import their princes from
    Germany to avoid having another Catholic king or queen.

    The United States isn't responsible for starting WWI either. Pretty much
    every country in Europe (except maybe Andorra) bears responsibility for
    that. They're all white, so not racism.

    There was racism versus Chinese immigrants to the western United States, >>which was blatant. And yet, diplomatically and militarily, the United >>States and China were allies prior to Mao's successful revolution.

    Diplomacy is not domestic behavior.

    Isn't it? The two cannot be separated and diplomats argue against ill
    treatment of their own citizens in foreign countries all the time. Ill treatment of foreign citizens absolutely causes diplomatic rifts.

    I'm just pointing out the speciousness of the "racism the war between
    Japan and the United States" based on the Chinese example. Are you agreeing with me or still disputing that? If it was racism, then we'd have been
    at war with China and not Japan.

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