• What Was Your First Sci-Fi?

    From Glenn P.,@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 27 02:02:58 2021
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?

    I'll start off; I have *two* memories. :)

    The first Science Fiction BOOK I ever read, was Eleanor Cameron's,
    "The Wonderful Flight To The Mushroom Planet" (and, later on, its
    sequel, "Stowaway To The Mushroom Planet." Both, after being long
    out of print, are now IN PRINT omce more.) The former title featured
    two boys who, with the assistance of a mysterious, wizened scientist
    and inventor, outfit their homemade spaceship (!) and journey to
    an invisible second moon of Earth called "Basidium X," where
    they help the Mushroom People who live there to bypass the
    plague infesting their food supply.

    But this wasn't actually my first exposure to Science Fiction
    (actually, "Science Fantasy" would be a nearer description).
    The very first Science Fantasy/Fiction STORY I ever read, came
    by way of my third-grade reader, called "From Bicycles To
    Boomerangs," and the story -- as hinted at in the book title --
    was called, "The Magic Boomerang." (You know, I never noticed
    it before, but you can kinda tell that the story would have to
    be a scence *fantasy*, given the word "magic" in the title!)

    "The Magic Boomerang" involved a boy's father returning from
    a trip to Australia and giving the boy a boomerang that the
    aborigine providing it claimed was magic. The boy then falls
    asleep and dreams that the boomerang takes flight -- with the
    boy holding tight to both the boomerang AND his dog (!). The
    boomerang takes them both into space and eventually lands
    them on a distant planet, etc. Kinda silly, really, but hey,
    I was like what, nine? Ten? I loved it... and I still do. :)

    It was very brief story -- about a dozen pages, twenty at the
    most, in fairly large print. And *that* was my introduction
    to "Science Fiction." ...Such as it was! :)

    So... what about YOU...? :)

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  • From Pete@21:1/5 to C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net on Sat Jun 12 23:32:39 2021
    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?

    I'll start off; I have *two* memories. :)

    The first Science Fiction BOOK I ever read, was Eleanor Cameron's,
    "The Wonderful Flight To The Mushroom Planet" (and, later on, its
    sequel, "Stowaway To The Mushroom Planet." Both, after being long
    out of print, are now IN PRINT omce more.) The former title featured
    two boys who, with the assistance of a mysterious, wizened scientist
    and inventor, outfit their homemade spaceship (!) and journey to
    an invisible second moon of Earth called "Basidium X," where
    they help the Mushroom People who live there to bypass the
    plague infesting their food supply.

    But this wasn't actually my first exposure to Science Fiction
    (actually, "Science Fantasy" would be a nearer description).
    The very first Science Fantasy/Fiction STORY I ever read, came
    by way of my third-grade reader, called "From Bicycles To
    Boomerangs," and the story -- as hinted at in the book title --
    was called, "The Magic Boomerang." (You know, I never noticed
    it before, but you can kinda tell that the story would have to
    be a scence *fantasy*, given the word "magic" in the title!)

    "The Magic Boomerang" involved a boy's father returning from
    a trip to Australia and giving the boy a boomerang that the
    aborigine providing it claimed was magic. The boy then falls
    asleep and dreams that the boomerang takes flight -- with the
    boy holding tight to both the boomerang AND his dog (!). The
    boomerang takes them both into space and eventually lands
    them on a distant planet, etc. Kinda silly, really, but hey,
    I was like what, nine? Ten? I loved it... and I still do. :)

    It was very brief story -- about a dozen pages, twenty at the
    most, in fairly large print. And *that* was my introduction
    to "Science Fiction." ...Such as it was! :)

    So... what about YOU...? :)

    -- %%%%%%%%% "Glenn P.," <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> %%%%%%%%%%%%

    Not exactly a high-traffic group, this (:-/), but as my fiction
    reading has always been essentially *only* SF/fantasy all my life,
    I have to add my tale! I don't remember the exact temporal order,
    but one of the first books I bought was "Interplanetary Stories/
    Invasion from Mars" (depending on whether you read the front cover
    or the spine!.) I still have it. It was a pretty good start,
    ("Selected by Orson Welles") with tales by Bradbury, Asimov, Boucher,
    Leinster, Fredric Brown, and others, *And* the complete script of
    Welles' 1938 "War of the Worlds" broadcast!

    It may actually be the *first* book I personally bought -- don't
    remember any earlier -- but it wasn't my first SF. I remember being
    in bed with a cold, and Mum brought me a copy of Astounding SF she
    had found in Woolworths; I would have been about ten. I guess my
    tastes were obvious even then! (I still have that, too.)

    A little later on, I bought (mostly first editions of) Clarke's
    "Against the Fall of Night", Asimov's "I, Robot", Raymond F. Jones'
    "This Island Earth", and Wyndham's "Day of the Triffids", all of
    which are still on my shelf. These were followed by countless
    paperbacks, all on the 'hard' side of SF. I wasn't much interested
    in Fantasy back then, but more recently I've found good stuff in
    that genre too (starting with Tolkien, as you might expect).

    For completeness, I suppose the *very* first SF in our household
    was (a signed copy of) Olaf Stapleton's "Last and First Men", but
    I never managed to make any headway in that until *much* later!
    Probably just a few years ago. I'm uncertain how it was signed
    but I have vague memories that Stapleton visited across the road
    and Dad met him then. I also have had a continuous subscription
    to "Astounding/Analog SF" since probably my mid teens.

    Maybe more than you wanted to know!

    -- Pete --

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  • From Pete@21:1/5 to Pete on Sun Jun 13 20:59:59 2021
    In article <sa3g6n$qts$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Pete <neverland@GoodeveCa.net> wrote: >In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?
    [....]
    For completeness, I suppose the *very* first SF in our household
    was (a signed copy of) Olaf Stapleton's "Last and First Men",

    Urghh... I should have got his name right after it being on my shelf
    for most of my life! It's "Stapledon", of course...

    -- Pete --

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  • From Glenn P.,@21:1/5 to neverland@GoodeveCa.net on Tue Jun 22 01:32:50 2021
    On 12-Jun-21 at 7:32pm -0000, <neverland@GoodeveCa.net> wrote:

    ...but one of the first books I bought was "Interplanetary Stories/
    Invasion from Mars" (depending on whether you read the front cover
    or the spine!.) I still have it. It was a pretty good start,
    ("Selected by Orson Welles") with tales by Bradbury, Asimov, Boucher, Leinster, Fredric Brown, and others, *And* the complete script of
    Welles' 1938 "War of the Worlds" broadcast!

    Ooo! I *adore* the "Panic Broadcasr*! I can quote long stretches of it
    from memory alone!

    I probably have a better rendition, provided by its original author
    (no, that wasn't Orson Welles; it was written at his direction, but
    the actual author is Howard Koch. Not to be confused with ED Koch,
    mayor of New York City from 1978 to 1989.) Howard Koch wrote a
    magnificent account (now, alas!, out of print) titled simply,
    "The Panic Broadcast."


    A little later on, I bought (mostly first editions of) Clarke's
    "Against the Fall of Night", Asimov's "I, Robot", Raymond F. Jones'
    "This Island Earth"...

    I stll have my copy of Jones' "Planet Of Light." There were several
    other authors of "juvenile" Sci-Fi (mostly pseudonyms); one of my
    favorites is Philip Latham's "Five Against Benus," which depicted
    a "Jungle Venus." At that time (before the Mariner II probe smashed
    it to bits) this was the prevailing conception of Venus, even among
    scientists, and "Five Against Venus" was considered HARD Svi-Fi!!!
    It is, at any rate, one of my favorite stories. :)


    For completeness, I suppose the *very* first SF in our household
    was (a signed copy of) Olaf Stapleton's "Last and First Men"...

    That is NOT "Sci-Fi," but rather an essay of scientific speculation
    about humankind's far future. It might (or it might not) interest
    you to know that C. S. Lewis (of Narnia fame) called this essay
    (and I quote) "brilliant, but depraved." Which is a really GOOD
    description of it!!!

    Maybe more than you wanted to know!

    Nah. Just right. I'm actually glad to read it -- for awhile there,
    I was afraid no-one was interested! :/

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net on Thu Jun 24 22:16:46 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?

    I'll start off; I have *two* memories. :)

    The first Science Fiction BOOK I ever read, was Eleanor Cameron's,
    "The Wonderful Flight To The Mushroom Planet" (and, later on, its
    sequel, "Stowaway To The Mushroom Planet." Both, after being long
    out of print, are now IN PRINT omce more.) The former title featured
    two boys who, with the assistance of a mysterious, wizened scientist
    and inventor, outfit their homemade spaceship (!) and journey to
    an invisible second moon of Earth called "Basidium X," where
    they help the Mushroom People who live there to bypass the
    plague infesting their food supply.

    But this wasn't actually my first exposure to Science Fiction
    (actually, "Science Fantasy" would be a nearer description).
    The very first Science Fantasy/Fiction STORY I ever read, came
    by way of my third-grade reader, called "From Bicycles To
    Boomerangs," and the story -- as hinted at in the book title --
    was called, "The Magic Boomerang." (You know, I never noticed
    it before, but you can kinda tell that the story would have to
    be a scence *fantasy*, given the word "magic" in the title!)

    "The Magic Boomerang" involved a boy's father returning from
    a trip to Australia and giving the boy a boomerang that the
    aborigine providing it claimed was magic. The boy then falls
    asleep and dreams that the boomerang takes flight -- with the
    boy holding tight to both the boomerang AND his dog (!). The
    boomerang takes them both into space and eventually lands
    them on a distant planet, etc. Kinda silly, really, but hey,
    I was like what, nine? Ten? I loved it... and I still do. :)

    It was very brief story -- about a dozen pages, twenty at the
    most, in fairly large print. And *that* was my introduction
    to "Science Fiction." ...Such as it was! :)

    So... what about YOU...? :)


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    By the definition of SF used there, some Seuss would qualify
    so I suspect it was one of the Bartholomew Cubbins books for me.

    After that it's hard to say, but I would guess it was
    _Tom Swift & His Flying Lab_ because I'm pretty sure I recall trying
    to puzzle my way through a lot of the words as I was just starting to
    read.

    I certainly did read the Mushroom Planet books, but a good bit later.
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 24 22:45:30 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <ijkeidF2v7aU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?

    ...

    So... what about YOU...? :)


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    The first SF I know I read was Schmitz's "The Second Night of
    Summer" (Galaxy, December 1950), because I read it over my
    mother's shoulder and asked her to explain the illustration.

    My mother bought all the Big 3 magazines of the day, and I read
    them too. I had a collection of ten or eleven years' worth, all
    carefully ordered in shoe boxes. Then I went off to college and
    my parents tossed them. :(

    Around the same time, I got hold of two Very Old novels in modern
    reprints, and it's a wonder I ever read any SF again, because
    they were Ralph Milne Farley's _An Earthman on Venus_ (original
    title, _The Radio Man_, which gives you an idea of how old it
    was) and Stanton A Coblentz's _Into Plutonian Depths_ ("Hey, we've
    got a space drive! Let's go to the Moon or Mars!" "The hell
    with that, let's go to Pluto!!")

    But I still read the magazines. I can remember sitting on my
    bedroom floor in a puddle of gosh-wow, after finishing the final
    segment of _The Stars My Destination._

    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 24 18:07:57 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 6/24/2021 5:16 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?

    I'll start off; I have *two* memories. :)

    The first Science Fiction BOOK I ever read, was Eleanor Cameron's,
    "The Wonderful Flight To The Mushroom Planet" (and, later on, its
    sequel, "Stowaway To The Mushroom Planet." Both, after being long
    out of print, are now IN PRINT omce more.) The former title featured
    two boys who, with the assistance of a mysterious, wizened scientist
    and inventor, outfit their homemade spaceship (!) and journey to
    an invisible second moon of Earth called "Basidium X," where
    they help the Mushroom People who live there to bypass the
    plague infesting their food supply.

    But this wasn't actually my first exposure to Science Fiction
    (actually, "Science Fantasy" would be a nearer description).
    The very first Science Fantasy/Fiction STORY I ever read, came
    by way of my third-grade reader, called "From Bicycles To
    Boomerangs," and the story -- as hinted at in the book title --
    was called, "The Magic Boomerang." (You know, I never noticed
    it before, but you can kinda tell that the story would have to
    be a scence *fantasy*, given the word "magic" in the title!)

    "The Magic Boomerang" involved a boy's father returning from
    a trip to Australia and giving the boy a boomerang that the
    aborigine providing it claimed was magic. The boy then falls
    asleep and dreams that the boomerang takes flight -- with the
    boy holding tight to both the boomerang AND his dog (!). The
    boomerang takes them both into space and eventually lands
    them on a distant planet, etc. Kinda silly, really, but hey,
    I was like what, nine? Ten? I loved it... and I still do. :)

    It was very brief story -- about a dozen pages, twenty at the
    most, in fairly large print. And *that* was my introduction
    to "Science Fiction." ...Such as it was! :)

    So... what about YOU...? :)


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    By the definition of SF used there, some Seuss would qualify
    so I suspect it was one of the Bartholomew Cubbins books for me.

    After that it's hard to say, but I would guess it was
    _Tom Swift & His Flying Lab_ because I'm pretty sure I recall trying
    to puzzle my way through a lot of the words as I was just starting to
    read.

    I certainly did read the Mushroom Planet books, but a good bit later.

    Either one of the Tom Swift Jr. books or one of the Heinlein juveniles.
    "Have Space Suit Will Travel" or "Time for the Stars" or "Starman
    Jones". We did not have money for buying books so I got all my first
    books from the elementary school library in Norman, OK. Probably third
    grade when I was eight. 53 years ago.

    Lynn

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  • From Titus G@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 25 12:07:23 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 25/06/21 10:16 am, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    snip
    By the definition of SF used there, some Seuss would qualify
    so I suspect it was one of the Bartholomew Cubbins books for me.

    My first memory of children's sf is of a didactic picture story which
    might have been called The Little Train Who Left The Tracks. Despite
    promising to stay on the rails, he didn't and sat in the grass making
    daisy chains and talking with animals and birds.
    But maybe Enid Blyton's Noddy stories would qualify as well?

    My first 'real' science fiction would have been early Heinlein or
    Asimov or similar from the library when a teen.

    After that it's hard to say, but I would guess it was
    _Tom Swift & His Flying Lab_ because I'm pretty sure I recall trying
    to puzzle my way through a lot of the words as I was just starting to
    read.

    I certainly did read the Mushroom Planet books, but a good bit later.


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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to ted@loft.tnolan.com on Thu Jun 24 22:08:11 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <ijkeidF2v7aU1@mid.individual.net>,
    ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote:

    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?

    I'll start off; I have *two* memories. :)

    The first Science Fiction BOOK I ever read, was Eleanor Cameron's,
    "The Wonderful Flight To The Mushroom Planet" (and, later on, its
    sequel, "Stowaway To The Mushroom Planet." Both, after being long
    <snip>

    But this wasn't actually my first exposure to Science Fiction
    (actually, "Science Fantasy" would be a nearer description).
    The very first Science Fantasy/Fiction STORY I ever read, came
    by way of my third-grade reader, called "From Bicycles To
    Boomerangs," and the story -- as hinted at in the book title --
    was called, "The Magic Boomerang." (You know, I never noticed
    <SNIP>

    So... what about YOU...? :)


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    By the definition of SF used there, some Seuss would qualify
    so I suspect it was one of the Bartholomew Cubbins books for me.

    After that it's hard to say, but I would guess it was
    _Tom Swift & His Flying Lab_ because I'm pretty sure I recall trying
    to puzzle my way through a lot of the words as I was just starting to
    read.

    I am not certain which sf/fantasy story was my first. I remember getting
    the 7th Tom Swift, Jr. title as a Christmas present from an aunt. I
    remember reading something that had to have been at least an extract of
    _Wind in the Willows_ when I was 7 or 8. I might have read a Pooh around
    that time as well (I have a vague recollection of what I think was a map
    of the wood).

    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. ‹-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From Wolffan@21:1/5 to Ted Nolan on Fri Jun 25 15:22:21 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 2021 Jun 24, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan wrote
    (in article <ijkeidF2v7aU1@mid.individual.net>):

    In article<alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?

    I'll start off; I have *two* memories. :)

    The first Science Fiction BOOK I ever read, was Eleanor Cameron's,
    "The Wonderful Flight To The Mushroom Planet" (and, later on, its
    sequel, "Stowaway To The Mushroom Planet." Both, after being long
    out of print, are now IN PRINT omce more.) The former title featured
    two boys who, with the assistance of a mysterious, wizened scientist
    and inventor, outfit their homemade spaceship (!) and journey to
    an invisible second moon of Earth called "Basidium X," where
    they help the Mushroom People who live there to bypass the
    plague infesting their food supply.

    But this wasn't actually my first exposure to Science Fiction
    (actually, "Science Fantasy" would be a nearer description).
    The very first Science Fantasy/Fiction STORY I ever read, came
    by way of my third-grade reader, called "From Bicycles To
    Boomerangs," and the story -- as hinted at in the book title --
    was called, "The Magic Boomerang." (You know, I never noticed
    it before, but you can kinda tell that the story would have to
    be a scence *fantasy*, given the word "magic" in the title!)

    "The Magic Boomerang" involved a boy's father returning from
    a trip to Australia and giving the boy a boomerang that the
    aborigine providing it claimed was magic. The boy then falls
    asleep and dreams that the boomerang takes flight -- with the
    boy holding tight to both the boomerang AND his dog (!). The
    boomerang takes them both into space and eventually lands
    them on a distant planet, etc. Kinda silly, really, but hey,
    I was like what, nine? Ten? I loved it... and I still do. :)

    It was very brief story -- about a dozen pages, twenty at the
    most, in fairly large print. And *that* was my introduction
    to "Science Fiction." ...Such as it was! :)

    So... what about YOU...? :)

    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    By the definition of SF used there, some Seuss would qualify
    so I suspect it was one of the Bartholomew Cubbins books for me.

    After that it's hard to say, but I would guess it was
    _Tom Swift & His Flying Lab_ because I'm pretty sure I recall trying
    to puzzle my way through a lot of the words as I was just starting to
    read.

    I certainly did read the Mushroom Planet books, but a good bit later.

    1st not-so-real SF: a Stingray (Gerry & Silvia Anderson puppet show) tie-in book. Very nearly my last, it was so badly written. I was about 8 or 9, the right age to watch Stingray and Supercar and Fireball XL-5 and Captain
    Scarlet and Thunderbirds. The TV puppet shows were far better than the book.

    1st real SF: Between Planets, RAH. I was about 11 and got it from my school library. It was quickly followed by the other Heinlein juveniles, and lots of Norton, van Vogt, Asimov, Fontana, Brackett, de Camp, others. By the time I
    was 15 I had all the Lensman and Skylark books, and all of Burroughs’s Mars and Venus planetary romances. (As I lived in a place where we played _real_ footie, with actual round balls, and used our feet, several references in several of the books, especially the Lensman books, to ‘football-shaped’ spacecraft were confusing, until I realized that they meant a rugby ball.)

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  • From Chris Buckley@21:1/5 to ted@loft.tnolan.com on Fri Jun 25 23:08:37 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 2021-06-24, Ted Nolan <tednolan> <ted@loft.tnolan.com> wrote:
    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?

    I'll start off; I have *two* memories. :)

    The first Science Fiction BOOK I ever read, was Eleanor Cameron's,
    "The Wonderful Flight To The Mushroom Planet" (and, later on, its
    sequel, "Stowaway To The Mushroom Planet." Both, after being long
    out of print, are now IN PRINT omce more.) The former title featured
    two boys who, with the assistance of a mysterious, wizened scientist
    and inventor, outfit their homemade spaceship (!) and journey to
    an invisible second moon of Earth called "Basidium X," where
    they help the Mushroom People who live there to bypass the
    plague infesting their food supply.

    But this wasn't actually my first exposure to Science Fiction
    (actually, "Science Fantasy" would be a nearer description).
    The very first Science Fantasy/Fiction STORY I ever read, came
    by way of my third-grade reader, called "From Bicycles To
    Boomerangs," and the story -- as hinted at in the book title --
    was called, "The Magic Boomerang." (You know, I never noticed
    it before, but you can kinda tell that the story would have to
    be a scence *fantasy*, given the word "magic" in the title!)

    "The Magic Boomerang" involved a boy's father returning from
    a trip to Australia and giving the boy a boomerang that the
    aborigine providing it claimed was magic. The boy then falls
    asleep and dreams that the boomerang takes flight -- with the
    boy holding tight to both the boomerang AND his dog (!). The
    boomerang takes them both into space and eventually lands
    them on a distant planet, etc. Kinda silly, really, but hey,
    I was like what, nine? Ten? I loved it... and I still do. :)

    It was very brief story -- about a dozen pages, twenty at the
    most, in fairly large print. And *that* was my introduction
    to "Science Fiction." ...Such as it was! :)

    So... what about YOU...? :)


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    By the definition of SF used there, some Seuss would qualify
    so I suspect it was one of the Bartholomew Cubbins books for me.

    After that it's hard to say, but I would guess it was
    _Tom Swift & His Flying Lab_ because I'm pretty sure I recall trying
    to puzzle my way through a lot of the words as I was just starting to
    read.

    I certainly did read the Mushroom Planet books, but a good bit later.

    I have no memory of what my first SF books were. I started reading
    early and it quickly became my primary occupation. I read everything I
    could get my hands on, and since the library was within walking
    distance, that was a lot! I was reading hundreds of books a year by
    age 7 or so, and the SF wasn't a major part of it.

    But I remember that pretty much all the SF available was often
    re-read. Danny Dunn was the first SF series I remember. I also
    remember a few Oz books (they didn't have that many), Dr Doolittle,
    and Mary Poppins. The Mushroom Planet books were certainly read early
    as well.

    I didn't pay much attention to authors in those years, except as a grouping
    to find books of a series. The notion that some authors might write
    better books certainly did not cross my mind!

    What was important, as I realized what my interests were, was publisher!
    Avalon Books. The library had 2-3 dozen SF books published by Avalon
    that became my most frequently re-read books. And the librarians
    would reserve any new Avalon SF book for me any time one came in. I
    remember each book's back cover was a list of 20 or so other Avalon SF
    books - there were books out there worth reading that weren't in the
    library! I would try to guess what they were about from the titles.
    With a couple of exceptions, I was guaranteed a good read if it came
    from Avalon.

    Looking back, I suspect it was a fortuitous library space problem that
    led to my access to those books. The children's section occupied the
    basement of the library and I was allowed to check out anything from
    there, but there was a bookcase of genre specific (SF, Western,
    Mystery) books at the base of the stairs that perhaps belonged
    upstairs.

    We moved when I was 11 and I was quite disappointed when the new
    junior high school library didn't have any Avalon books. I had to pay attention to authors finally, like Herbert, Asimov, and Heinlein.
    Looking back at Avalon's list of books
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avalon_Books
    it's now clear that the attraction of the Avalon books for me was that they were adult science fiction rather than good science fiction - Avalon
    was definitely a second tier SF publisher.

    Chris

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to alan@sabir.com on Sat Jun 26 02:56:30 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <slrnsdcofl.2te.alan@video.sabir.com>,
    Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> wrote:
    On 2021-06-24, Ted Nolan <tednolan> <ted@loft.tnolan.com> wrote:
    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?

    I'll start off; I have *two* memories. :)

    The first Science Fiction BOOK I ever read, was Eleanor Cameron's,
    "The Wonderful Flight To The Mushroom Planet" (and, later on, its
    sequel, "Stowaway To The Mushroom Planet." Both, after being long
    out of print, are now IN PRINT omce more.) The former title featured
    two boys who, with the assistance of a mysterious, wizened scientist
    and inventor, outfit their homemade spaceship (!) and journey to
    an invisible second moon of Earth called "Basidium X," where
    they help the Mushroom People who live there to bypass the
    plague infesting their food supply.

    But this wasn't actually my first exposure to Science Fiction
    (actually, "Science Fantasy" would be a nearer description).
    The very first Science Fantasy/Fiction STORY I ever read, came
    by way of my third-grade reader, called "From Bicycles To
    Boomerangs," and the story -- as hinted at in the book title --
    was called, "The Magic Boomerang." (You know, I never noticed
    it before, but you can kinda tell that the story would have to
    be a scence *fantasy*, given the word "magic" in the title!)

    "The Magic Boomerang" involved a boy's father returning from
    a trip to Australia and giving the boy a boomerang that the
    aborigine providing it claimed was magic. The boy then falls
    asleep and dreams that the boomerang takes flight -- with the
    boy holding tight to both the boomerang AND his dog (!). The
    boomerang takes them both into space and eventually lands
    them on a distant planet, etc. Kinda silly, really, but hey,
    I was like what, nine? Ten? I loved it... and I still do. :)

    It was very brief story -- about a dozen pages, twenty at the
    most, in fairly large print. And *that* was my introduction
    to "Science Fiction." ...Such as it was! :)

    So... what about YOU...? :)


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    By the definition of SF used there, some Seuss would qualify
    so I suspect it was one of the Bartholomew Cubbins books for me.

    After that it's hard to say, but I would guess it was
    _Tom Swift & His Flying Lab_ because I'm pretty sure I recall trying
    to puzzle my way through a lot of the words as I was just starting to
    read.

    I certainly did read the Mushroom Planet books, but a good bit later.

    I have no memory of what my first SF books were. I started reading
    early and it quickly became my primary occupation. I read everything I
    could get my hands on, and since the library was within walking
    distance, that was a lot! I was reading hundreds of books a year by
    age 7 or so, and the SF wasn't a major part of it.

    But I remember that pretty much all the SF available was often
    re-read. Danny Dunn was the first SF series I remember. I also
    remember a few Oz books (they didn't have that many), Dr Doolittle,
    and Mary Poppins. The Mushroom Planet books were certainly read early
    as well.

    I didn't pay much attention to authors in those years, except as a grouping >to find books of a series. The notion that some authors might write
    better books certainly did not cross my mind!

    What was important, as I realized what my interests were, was publisher! >Avalon Books. The library had 2-3 dozen SF books published by Avalon
    that became my most frequently re-read books. And the librarians
    would reserve any new Avalon SF book for me any time one came in. I
    remember each book's back cover was a list of 20 or so other Avalon SF
    books - there were books out there worth reading that weren't in the
    library! I would try to guess what they were about from the titles.
    With a couple of exceptions, I was guaranteed a good read if it came
    from Avalon.

    Looking back, I suspect it was a fortuitous library space problem that
    led to my access to those books. The children's section occupied the >basement of the library and I was allowed to check out anything from
    there, but there was a bookcase of genre specific (SF, Western,
    Mystery) books at the base of the stairs that perhaps belonged
    upstairs.

    We moved when I was 11 and I was quite disappointed when the new
    junior high school library didn't have any Avalon books. I had to pay >attention to authors finally, like Herbert, Asimov, and Heinlein.
    Looking back at Avalon's list of books
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avalon_Books
    it's now clear that the attraction of the Avalon books for me was that they >were adult science fiction rather than good science fiction - Avalon
    was definitely a second tier SF publisher.

    Chris

    Hmm, looking at the list I see a lot of reprints, and a lot of stuff
    I've never read, but also Anderson, Vance, de Camp, Harness & Russell.
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Jonathan@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 26 08:41:11 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 6/24/2021 6:16 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?

    I'll start off; I have *two* memories. :)

    The first Science Fiction BOOK I ever read, was Eleanor Cameron's,
    "The Wonderful Flight To The Mushroom Planet" (and, later on, its
    sequel, "Stowaway To The Mushroom Planet." Both, after being long
    out of print, are now IN PRINT omce more.) The former title featured
    two boys who, with the assistance of a mysterious, wizened scientist
    and inventor, outfit their homemade spaceship (!) and journey to
    an invisible second moon of Earth called "Basidium X," where
    they help the Mushroom People who live there to bypass the
    plague infesting their food supply.

    But this wasn't actually my first exposure to Science Fiction
    (actually, "Science Fantasy" would be a nearer description).
    The very first Science Fantasy/Fiction STORY I ever read, came
    by way of my third-grade reader, called "From Bicycles To
    Boomerangs," and the story -- as hinted at in the book title --
    was called, "The Magic Boomerang." (You know, I never noticed
    it before, but you can kinda tell that the story would have to
    be a scence *fantasy*, given the word "magic" in the title!)

    "The Magic Boomerang" involved a boy's father returning from
    a trip to Australia and giving the boy a boomerang that the
    aborigine providing it claimed was magic. The boy then falls
    asleep and dreams that the boomerang takes flight -- with the
    boy holding tight to both the boomerang AND his dog (!). The
    boomerang takes them both into space and eventually lands
    them on a distant planet, etc. Kinda silly, really, but hey,
    I was like what, nine? Ten? I loved it... and I still do. :)

    It was very brief story -- about a dozen pages, twenty at the
    most, in fairly large print. And *that* was my introduction
    to "Science Fiction." ...Such as it was! :)

    So... what about YOU...? :)


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    By the definition of SF used there, some Seuss would qualify
    so I suspect it was one of the Bartholomew Cubbins books for me.

    After that it's hard to say, but I would guess it was
    _Tom Swift & His Flying Lab_ because I'm pretty sure I recall trying
    to puzzle my way through a lot of the words as I was just starting to
    read.

    I certainly did read the Mushroom Planet books, but a good bit later.



    I was forced to read The Hobbit in jr high lit class.

    It was like I was sentenced to a slow agonizing death
    that went on and on and on with no end in sight.



    --
    https://twitter.com/Non_Linear1

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to Jonathan on Sat Jun 26 09:39:07 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 08:41:11 -0400, Jonathan <LSA@UMich.edu> wrote:

    On 6/24/2021 6:16 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?

    I'll start off; I have *two* memories. :)

    The first Science Fiction BOOK I ever read, was Eleanor Cameron's,
    "The Wonderful Flight To The Mushroom Planet" (and, later on, its
    sequel, "Stowaway To The Mushroom Planet." Both, after being long
    out of print, are now IN PRINT omce more.) The former title featured
    two boys who, with the assistance of a mysterious, wizened scientist
    and inventor, outfit their homemade spaceship (!) and journey to
    an invisible second moon of Earth called "Basidium X," where
    they help the Mushroom People who live there to bypass the
    plague infesting their food supply.

    But this wasn't actually my first exposure to Science Fiction
    (actually, "Science Fantasy" would be a nearer description).
    The very first Science Fantasy/Fiction STORY I ever read, came
    by way of my third-grade reader, called "From Bicycles To
    Boomerangs," and the story -- as hinted at in the book title --
    was called, "The Magic Boomerang." (You know, I never noticed
    it before, but you can kinda tell that the story would have to
    be a scence *fantasy*, given the word "magic" in the title!)

    "The Magic Boomerang" involved a boy's father returning from
    a trip to Australia and giving the boy a boomerang that the
    aborigine providing it claimed was magic. The boy then falls
    asleep and dreams that the boomerang takes flight -- with the
    boy holding tight to both the boomerang AND his dog (!). The
    boomerang takes them both into space and eventually lands
    them on a distant planet, etc. Kinda silly, really, but hey,
    I was like what, nine? Ten? I loved it... and I still do. :)

    It was very brief story -- about a dozen pages, twenty at the
    most, in fairly large print. And *that* was my introduction
    to "Science Fiction." ...Such as it was! :)

    So... what about YOU...? :)


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    By the definition of SF used there, some Seuss would qualify
    so I suspect it was one of the Bartholomew Cubbins books for me.

    After that it's hard to say, but I would guess it was
    _Tom Swift & His Flying Lab_ because I'm pretty sure I recall trying
    to puzzle my way through a lot of the words as I was just starting to
    read.

    I certainly did read the Mushroom Planet books, but a good bit later.



    I was forced to read The Hobbit in jr high lit class.

    It was like I was sentenced to a slow agonizing death
    that went on and on and on with no end in sight.

    You were lucky -- it /could/ have been /LOTR/.

    Of course, that was then. Tastes change.
    --
    "I begin to envy Petronius."
    "I have envied him long since."

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid on Sat Jun 26 17:51:09 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <00medg5e48kfpi1d7k00bk2i72k3sp1h5v@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 08:41:11 -0400, Jonathan <LSA@UMich.edu> wrote:

    On 6/24/2021 6:16 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?

    I'll start off; I have *two* memories. :)

    The first Science Fiction BOOK I ever read, was Eleanor Cameron's,
    "The Wonderful Flight To The Mushroom Planet" (and, later on, its
    sequel, "Stowaway To The Mushroom Planet." Both, after being long
    out of print, are now IN PRINT omce more.) The former title featured
    two boys who, with the assistance of a mysterious, wizened scientist
    and inventor, outfit their homemade spaceship (!) and journey to
    an invisible second moon of Earth called "Basidium X," where
    they help the Mushroom People who live there to bypass the
    plague infesting their food supply.

    But this wasn't actually my first exposure to Science Fiction
    (actually, "Science Fantasy" would be a nearer description).
    The very first Science Fantasy/Fiction STORY I ever read, came
    by way of my third-grade reader, called "From Bicycles To
    Boomerangs," and the story -- as hinted at in the book title --
    was called, "The Magic Boomerang." (You know, I never noticed
    it before, but you can kinda tell that the story would have to
    be a scence *fantasy*, given the word "magic" in the title!)

    "The Magic Boomerang" involved a boy's father returning from
    a trip to Australia and giving the boy a boomerang that the
    aborigine providing it claimed was magic. The boy then falls
    asleep and dreams that the boomerang takes flight -- with the
    boy holding tight to both the boomerang AND his dog (!). The
    boomerang takes them both into space and eventually lands
    them on a distant planet, etc. Kinda silly, really, but hey,
    I was like what, nine? Ten? I loved it... and I still do. :)

    It was very brief story -- about a dozen pages, twenty at the
    most, in fairly large print. And *that* was my introduction
    to "Science Fiction." ...Such as it was! :)

    So... what about YOU...? :)


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    By the definition of SF used there, some Seuss would qualify
    so I suspect it was one of the Bartholomew Cubbins books for me.

    After that it's hard to say, but I would guess it was
    _Tom Swift & His Flying Lab_ because I'm pretty sure I recall trying
    to puzzle my way through a lot of the words as I was just starting to
    read.

    I certainly did read the Mushroom Planet books, but a good bit later.



    I was forced to read The Hobbit in jr high lit class.

    You bettah off. In the same level lit class, *I* was made to
    read Willa Cather and Ralph Waldo Emerson.

    It was like I was sentenced to a slow agonizing death
    that went on and on and on with no end in sight.

    Hmmm. Tastes, of course, differ. As the apocryphal Scotsman is
    supposed to have said, "It's good that we don't all like the same
    things, or think what an oatmeal shortage there would be!"

    And, of course, _The Hobbit_ *is* a children's book. It's based
    on the stories Tolkien told his children while working on the
    huge mass of material, some of which would eventually become _The Silmarillion._ And when he submitted it to the publishers,
    Unwin's young son gave a very positive review of it *as a
    children's book,* which got it published.

    Which may be part of the reason why I found not only _The Hobbit_
    but also _The Lord of the Rings_ in the "Children's Books"
    section of the Education/Psychology Library on the UC Berkeley
    Campus.

    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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  • From Jonathan@21:1/5 to Dorothy J Heydt on Sun Jun 27 11:18:56 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 6/26/2021 1:51 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <00medg5e48kfpi1d7k00bk2i72k3sp1h5v@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 08:41:11 -0400, Jonathan <LSA@UMich.edu> wrote:

    On 6/24/2021 6:16 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?

    I'll start off; I have *two* memories. :)

    The first Science Fiction BOOK I ever read, was Eleanor Cameron's,
    "The Wonderful Flight To The Mushroom Planet" (and, later on, its
    sequel, "Stowaway To The Mushroom Planet." Both, after being long
    out of print, are now IN PRINT omce more.) The former title featured >>>>> two boys who, with the assistance of a mysterious, wizened scientist >>>>> and inventor, outfit their homemade spaceship (!) and journey to
    an invisible second moon of Earth called "Basidium X," where
    they help the Mushroom People who live there to bypass the
    plague infesting their food supply.

    But this wasn't actually my first exposure to Science Fiction
    (actually, "Science Fantasy" would be a nearer description).
    The very first Science Fantasy/Fiction STORY I ever read, came
    by way of my third-grade reader, called "From Bicycles To
    Boomerangs," and the story -- as hinted at in the book title --
    was called, "The Magic Boomerang." (You know, I never noticed
    it before, but you can kinda tell that the story would have to
    be a scence *fantasy*, given the word "magic" in the title!)

    "The Magic Boomerang" involved a boy's father returning from
    a trip to Australia and giving the boy a boomerang that the
    aborigine providing it claimed was magic. The boy then falls
    asleep and dreams that the boomerang takes flight -- with the
    boy holding tight to both the boomerang AND his dog (!). The
    boomerang takes them both into space and eventually lands
    them on a distant planet, etc. Kinda silly, really, but hey,
    I was like what, nine? Ten? I loved it... and I still do. :)

    It was very brief story -- about a dozen pages, twenty at the
    most, in fairly large print. And *that* was my introduction
    to "Science Fiction." ...Such as it was! :)

    So... what about YOU...? :)


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    By the definition of SF used there, some Seuss would qualify
    so I suspect it was one of the Bartholomew Cubbins books for me.

    After that it's hard to say, but I would guess it was
    _Tom Swift & His Flying Lab_ because I'm pretty sure I recall trying
    to puzzle my way through a lot of the words as I was just starting to
    read.

    I certainly did read the Mushroom Planet books, but a good bit later.



    I was forced to read The Hobbit in jr high lit class.

    You bettah off. In the same level lit class, *I* was made to
    read Willa Cather and Ralph Waldo Emerson.

    It was like I was sentenced to a slow agonizing death
    that went on and on and on with no end in sight.

    Hmmm. Tastes, of course, differ. As the apocryphal Scotsman is
    supposed to have said, "It's good that we don't all like the same
    things, or think what an oatmeal shortage there would be!"



    Or as Charles de Gaulle said...

    "How can anyone govern a nation that has
    two hundred and forty-six different kinds
    of cheese?



    And, of course, _The Hobbit_ *is* a children's book. It's based
    on the stories Tolkien told his children while working on the
    huge mass of material, some of which would eventually become _The Silmarillion._ And when he submitted it to the publishers,
    Unwin's young son gave a very positive review of it *as a
    children's book,* which got it published.

    Which may be part of the reason why I found not only _The Hobbit_
    but also _The Lord of the Rings_ in the "Children's Books"
    section of the Education/Psychology Library on the UC Berkeley
    Campus.



    I wonder is that early experience with literature
    still has effects? Think so, anything involving
    fantasy just repels me. As Emily said...


    "But I, grown shrewder - scan the skies
    With a suspicious air
    As children - swindled for the first
    All swindlers - be - infer."




    --
    https://twitter.com/Non_Linear1

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  • From Michael F. Stemper@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 28 14:34:17 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 24/06/2021 17.16, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    It depends upon what you mean by "science fiction", of course.
    I assume that fairy tales don't count.

    When I was 7, I got a library card and devoured all of the Doctor
    Dolittle that our library had, along with all of the Freddy the
    Pig books. Then, I got permission to use the adult section, and
    read all of their Andre Norton books. She was the first author
    that I ever sought out by name.

    Meanwhile, at my grade school library, I read all of Lang, and
    Travers (well, all that they had). And, of course, Danny Dunn,
    Miss Pickerell, and the Mushroom Planet stuff.

    --
    Michael F. Stemper
    A preposition is something you should never end a sentence with.

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to Michael F. Stemper on Mon Jun 28 20:24:59 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <sbd87p$b8d$1@dont-email.me>,
    Michael F. Stemper <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 24/06/2021 17.16, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    It depends upon what you mean by "science fiction", of course.
    I assume that fairy tales don't count.

    The ".sf" tag is agreed upon by this group to mean "speculative
    fiction," including hard science fiction, soft and squishy
    science fiction (Darkover, e.g.), and all the flavors of fantasy.

    Sometimes in text, we use the abbreviation "SFF", meaning science
    fiction and fantasy, in all their various varieties.

    No single reader's idea of where the lines between these various
    categories are drawn, will agree with any other reader's. And I
    haven't even gotten near "dark fantasy" (verging on horror) or
    "paranormal romance" (verging on Harlequin).

    Once upon a time there was a long discussion of just what
    subgroup was included in what supergroups, and it got rather
    heated, and the word "lambasting" was used.

    So I said,

    [T]here would appear to be a middle-of-the
    road definition of any term that is generally accepted by
    group, and definitions further out in one direction or another
    that are held by a few, and this will generate discussion. The
    discussion can stop short of "lambasting" if both sides try to
    keep their language moderate and their tone polite, as, "Well,
    I just don't consider x an example of Y," and "Well, you're going
    to get a fair amount of disagreement then, because most of us
    do."

    The subject under discussion was whether sword-and-sorcery was
    included under fantasy.

    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 28 17:22:42 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    I don't remember but probably it was the original Baum 'Oz' books.

    --
    Troll, troll, troll your post gently down the thread
    Angrily, angrily, angrily, the net's a nut's scream.

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  • From Michael F. Stemper@21:1/5 to Dorothy J Heydt on Tue Jun 29 08:12:55 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 28/06/2021 15.24, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <sbd87p$b8d$1@dont-email.me>,
    Michael F. Stemper <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 24/06/2021 17.16, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    It depends upon what you mean by "science fiction", of course.
    I assume that fairy tales don't count.

    The ".sf" tag is agreed upon by this group to mean "speculative
    fiction," including hard science fiction, soft and squishy
    science fiction (Darkover, e.g.), and all the flavors of fantasy.

    I was addressing the original post, which specifically said "Sci-Fi",
    not "sf". So I limited my response to Sci-Fi and neglected all of the
    fantasy that I was reading at the same time.


    --
    Michael F. Stemper
    87.3% of all statistics are made up by the person giving them.

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to Michael F. Stemper on Tue Jun 29 14:16:47 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <sbf68n$o2e$1@dont-email.me>,
    Michael F. Stemper <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 28/06/2021 15.24, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <sbd87p$b8d$1@dont-email.me>,
    Michael F. Stemper <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 24/06/2021 17.16, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    It depends upon what you mean by "science fiction", of course.
    I assume that fairy tales don't count.

    The ".sf" tag is agreed upon by this group to mean "speculative
    fiction," including hard science fiction, soft and squishy
    science fiction (Darkover, e.g.), and all the flavors of fantasy.

    I was addressing the original post, which specifically said "Sci-Fi",
    not "sf". So I limited my response to Sci-Fi and neglected all of the
    fantasy that I was reading at the same time.

    Okay, I'll accept that. Reluctantly.

    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to michael.stemper@gmail.com on Tue Jun 29 10:42:19 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 14:34:17 -0500, "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 24/06/2021 17.16, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    It depends upon what you mean by "science fiction", of course.
    I assume that fairy tales don't count.

    When I was 7, I got a library card and devoured all of the Doctor
    Dolittle that our library had, along with all of the Freddy the
    Pig books. Then, I got permission to use the adult section, and
    read all of their Andre Norton books. She was the first author
    that I ever sought out by name.

    Lucky you.

    My local branch library would not let me into the next higher section
    even though I had read everything in the kiddie section.

    That's when I discovered second-hand bookstores. Who were willing to
    sell a kid as much classic science fiction as he wanted to buy. And
    why not? It was about as sex-free as it could get.


    Meanwhile, at my grade school library, I read all of Lang, and
    Travers (well, all that they had). And, of course, Danny Dunn,
    Miss Pickerell, and the Mushroom Planet stuff.
    --
    "I begin to envy Petronius."
    "I have envied him long since."

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid on Tue Jun 29 18:55:20 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <unmmdg1fh249b1ibobc11it01uiqc4br9b@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 14:34:17 -0500, "Michael F. Stemper" ><michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 24/06/2021 17.16, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    It depends upon what you mean by "science fiction", of course.
    I assume that fairy tales don't count.

    When I was 7, I got a library card and devoured all of the Doctor
    Dolittle that our library had, along with all of the Freddy the
    Pig books. Then, I got permission to use the adult section, and
    read all of their Andre Norton books. She was the first author
    that I ever sought out by name.

    Lucky you.

    My local branch library would not let me into the next higher section
    even though I had read everything in the kiddie section.

    That's when I discovered second-hand bookstores. Who were willing to
    sell a kid as much classic science fiction as he wanted to buy. And
    why not? It was about as sex-free as it could get.

    Yeah, particularly in the days when Kay Tarrant was Campbell's
    assistant at _Astounding_. Authors schemed to get something past
    her that she would've vetoed if she'd noticed it; cf. Damon
    Knight's "Cabin Boy." (Of course, in order to have vetoed that
    one, she would've had to be familiar with the song it was
    parodying, Thank you, Oscar Brand.)

    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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  • From Michael F. Stemper@21:1/5 to Paul S Person on Wed Jun 30 10:11:44 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 29/06/2021 12.42, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 14:34:17 -0500, "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 24/06/2021 17.16, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    It depends upon what you mean by "science fiction", of course.
    I assume that fairy tales don't count.

    When I was 7, I got a library card and devoured all of the Doctor
    Dolittle that our library had, along with all of the Freddy the
    Pig books. Then, I got permission to use the adult section, and
    read all of their Andre Norton books. She was the first author
    that I ever sought out by name.

    Lucky you.

    My local branch library would not let me into the next higher section
    even though I had read everything in the kiddie section.

    That's when I discovered second-hand bookstores.

    Lucky you. I didn't know that such things existed until after I
    graduated from college. In fact, before that time, I never even
    saw a bookstore other than the kind where you buy textbooks.

    On the other hand, there were four different places with wire racks
    in the small city (under 7,000) where I grew up. Back in the days
    of independent distributors.

    --
    Michael F. Stemper
    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him talk like Mr. Ed
    by rubbing peanut butter on his gums.

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  • From Chrysi Cat@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 2 13:38:12 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 6/24/2021 4:16 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <alpine.DEB.2.11.2105270116450.595@bfjrtb.sbkinyyrl.arg>,
    Glenn P., <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
    What was the first Sci-Fi you ever read?

    I'll start off; I have *two* memories. :)

    The first Science Fiction BOOK I ever read, was Eleanor Cameron's,
    "The Wonderful Flight To The Mushroom Planet" (and, later on, its
    sequel, "Stowaway To The Mushroom Planet." Both, after being long
    out of print, are now IN PRINT omce more.) The former title featured
    two boys who, with the assistance of a mysterious, wizened scientist
    and inventor, outfit their homemade spaceship (!) and journey to
    an invisible second moon of Earth called "Basidium X," where
    they help the Mushroom People who live there to bypass the
    plague infesting their food supply.

    But this wasn't actually my first exposure to Science Fiction
    (actually, "Science Fantasy" would be a nearer description).
    The very first Science Fantasy/Fiction STORY I ever read, came
    by way of my third-grade reader, called "From Bicycles To
    Boomerangs," and the story -- as hinted at in the book title --
    was called, "The Magic Boomerang." (You know, I never noticed
    it before, but you can kinda tell that the story would have to
    be a scence *fantasy*, given the word "magic" in the title!)

    "The Magic Boomerang" involved a boy's father returning from
    a trip to Australia and giving the boy a boomerang that the
    aborigine providing it claimed was magic. The boy then falls
    asleep and dreams that the boomerang takes flight -- with the
    boy holding tight to both the boomerang AND his dog (!). The
    boomerang takes them both into space and eventually lands
    them on a distant planet, etc. Kinda silly, really, but hey,
    I was like what, nine? Ten? I loved it... and I still do. :)

    It was very brief story -- about a dozen pages, twenty at the
    most, in fairly large print. And *that* was my introduction
    to "Science Fiction." ...Such as it was! :)

    So... what about YOU...? :)


    I'm adding rec.arts.sf.written, which is a more active group.

    By the definition of SF used there, some Seuss would qualify
    so I suspect it was one of the Bartholomew Cubbins books for me.

    After that it's hard to say, but I would guess it was
    _Tom Swift & His Flying Lab_ because I'm pretty sure I recall trying
    to puzzle my way through a lot of the words as I was just starting to
    read.

    I certainly did read the Mushroom Planet books, but a good bit later.


    I'm honestly not sure (which is probably a bit of an indictment
    considering how much younger I am than everyone else here).

    Then again, I'm also not sure whether Choose Your Own Adventure books or
    comic books count towards the restriction.

    I don't think I did *too* much "pure" SF until I reached about the
    "Golden Age", though I _could_ also be wrong about that--I was still a
    nerd in the '80s, after all. And I was pulling a _bunch_ from the stacks
    at both my elementary-school and public libraries (the latter of which I
    think I had either parent-supervised or full-on access to the adult
    stacks in, the whole time).

    But I was also largely reading magazines, possibly more than books. And
    many of the books I read were mysteries. And of course I was also
    watching as much TV (largely cartoons, and largely SF-nal ones, since
    M.A.S.K. got heavy play and Spiral Zone some) as my parents would
    permit, or maybe even more than that.

    For SURE, I think I picked up the Choose Your Own Adventure
    "Supercomputer" around 1984 or '85, whenever it was first released.

    It HAS to qualify as SF (not even fantasy, like "Vampire Express", also
    a CYOA title that I know I owned personally); the reader-character is an intelligence agent for one of three successor-states to the US (the
    enemy one of which is a totalitarian nightmare taking up much of the
    South) with its capital at Denver. (It's also a sequel to the slightly-less-SFNal "Escape", which already has the broken US in 2045,
    but doesn't have the titular computer as a mcguffin to hunt down).

    It's still a lot better than the Incarnations of Immortality I spent far
    too much of my teens reading (heck, ANY Piers Anthony in your teens is
    too much, in hindsight).

    --
    Chrysi Cat
    1/2 anthrocat, nearly 1/2 anthrofox, all magical
    Transgoddess, quick to anger. [she/her. Misgender and die].
    Call me Chrysi or call me Kat, I'll respond to either!

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