• Curt Swan's best?

    From ggggg9271@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 21 22:58:39 2018
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  • From ggggg9271@gmail.com@21:1/5 to gggg...@gmail.com on Sun Jul 22 11:27:20 2018
    On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 7:58:40 PM UTC-10, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
    https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=662&ei=BRxUW-e7GZDw_wSkiKboDg&q=superman+issue+death+of+superman&oq=superman+issue+death+of+superman&gs_l=img.3...9221.15632.0.15802.35.18.0.16.0.0.324.2082.0j9j2j1.12.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..
    7.11.1928.0..0j35i39k1j0i30k1j0i8i30k1.0.GxjqkYYoLZs#imgdii=u367T5mNCMCQfM:&imgrc=pW_TjV0BE-85DM:

    Do you have a favorite Swan story?

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  • From Wouter Valentijn@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 23 20:36:14 2018
    Op 22-7-2018 om 20:27 schreef ggggg9271@gmail.com:
    On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 7:58:40 PM UTC-10, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
    https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=662&ei=BRxUW-e7GZDw_wSkiKboDg&q=superman+issue+death+of+superman&oq=superman+issue+death+of+superman&gs_l=img.3...9221.15632.0.15802.35.18.0.16.0.0.324.2082.0j9j2j1.12.0....0...1ac.1.64.img.
    .7.11.1928.0..0j35i39k1j0i30k1j0i8i30k1.0.GxjqkYYoLZs#imgdii=u367T5mNCMCQfM:&imgrc=pW_TjV0BE-85DM:

    Do you have a favorite Swan story?



    Can't remember the exact title... It must have been in the late '70s.

    There's this alien, other alien, living next door to Clark Kent.
    This guy manipulates Clark's suits so that when Clark is in his Clark
    Kent clothes he has NO powers. The situation becomes so strange for him
    that he must decide wether he wants to continue as Superman or not.
    In the end Superman figures out what's going on and his opponent has
    gathered about nine other villains to battle Superman.
    Obviously Supes wins.

    It's about the same time as other stories such as when his cousin tried
    to convince him that he and her were not from Krypton, but Earth born
    mutants.

    But that might have been Swan....

    --
    Wouter Valentijn

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    future generations, so, however, whatever, whichever, whenever, wherever
    or whoever we are, we better be at our best."

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  • From Kevrob@21:1/5 to Wouter Valentijn on Mon Jul 23 16:52:11 2018
    On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 2:36:15 PM UTC-4, Wouter Valentijn wrote:
    Op 22-7-2018 om 20:27 schreef ggggg9271@gmail.com:
    On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 7:58:40 PM UTC-10, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
    https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=662&ei=BRxUW-e7GZDw_wSkiKboDg&q=superman+issue+death+of+superman&oq=superman+issue+death+of+superman&gs_l=img.3...9221.15632.0.15802.35.18.0.16.0.0.324.2082.0j9j2j1.12.0....0...1ac.1.64.
    img..7.11.1928.0..0j35i39k1j0i30k1j0i8i30k1.0.GxjqkYYoLZs#imgdii=u367T5mNCMCQfM:&imgrc=pW_TjV0BE-85DM:

    Do you have a favorite Swan story?



    Can't remember the exact title... It must have been in the late '70s.

    There's this alien, other alien, living next door to Clark Kent.
    This guy manipulates Clark's suits so that when Clark is in his Clark
    Kent clothes he has NO powers. The situation becomes so strange for him
    that he must decide wether he wants to continue as Superman or not.
    In the end Superman figures out what's going on and his opponent has gathered about nine other villains to battle Superman.
    Obviously Supes wins.


    SUPERMAN, Vol. 1, #s 296-299, Feb through May, 1976

    Bob Oksner did the first 3 covers, wiih Ernie Chan (aka Chua)
    doing the final one.

    Info on 296 here:

    https://www.comics.org/issue/29533/?

    It's about the same time as other stories such as when his cousin tried
    to convince him that he and her were not from Krypton, but Earth born mutants.


    But that might have been Swan....

    That was #307, pencils by Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez, under a
    Neal Adams cover.

    I've read too many Swan/Klein, Swanderson and Swan/Adkins
    to pick a favorite. The ones on Superman V1 #233 onwards
    from 1971 always resonated with me, as well as the one's
    over in ACTION COMICS in the same period.

    Kevin R

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  • From Wouter Valentijn@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 24 19:57:30 2018
    Op 24-7-2018 om 01:52 schreef Kevrob:
    On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 2:36:15 PM UTC-4, Wouter Valentijn wrote:
    Op 22-7-2018 om 20:27 schreef ggggg9271@gmail.com:
    On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 7:58:40 PM UTC-10, gggg...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=662&ei=BRxUW-e7GZDw_wSkiKboDg&q=superman+issue+death+of+superman&oq=superman+issue+death+of+superman&gs_l=img.3...9221.15632.0.15802.35.18.0.16.0.0.324.2082.0j9j2j1.12.0....0...1ac.1.64.
    img..7.11.1928.0..0j35i39k1j0i30k1j0i8i30k1.0.GxjqkYYoLZs#imgdii=u367T5mNCMCQfM:&imgrc=pW_TjV0BE-85DM:

    Do you have a favorite Swan story?



    Can't remember the exact title... It must have been in the late '70s.

    There's this alien, other alien, living next door to Clark Kent.
    This guy manipulates Clark's suits so that when Clark is in his Clark
    Kent clothes he has NO powers. The situation becomes so strange for him
    that he must decide wether he wants to continue as Superman or not.
    In the end Superman figures out what's going on and his opponent has
    gathered about nine other villains to battle Superman.
    Obviously Supes wins.


    SUPERMAN, Vol. 1, #s 296-299, Feb through May, 1976

    Bob Oksner did the first 3 covers, wiih Ernie Chan (aka Chua)
    doing the final one.

    Info on 296 here:

    https://www.comics.org/issue/29533/?

    YES!!! Thank you, that's the one. :-)



    It's about the same time as other stories such as when his cousin tried
    to convince him that he and her were not from Krypton, but Earth born
    mutants.


    But that might have been Swan....

    That was #307, pencils by Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez, under a
    Neal Adams cover.

    Weird thing... In my mind 307s story came before 296... Memories can be
    tricky things!


    I've read too many Swan/Klein, Swanderson and Swan/Adkins
    to pick a favorite. The ones on Superman V1 #233 onwards
    from 1971 always resonated with me, as well as the one's
    over in ACTION COMICS in the same period.



    The very first Superman I started with was somewhere in the middle of a Terraman story, in which Terraman gave Superman his appearance. Must
    have been early 70s as well I think. Although over here it might have
    been mid 70s since the first ones I read were Dutch editions.


    --
    Wouter Valentijn

    "We are the gift from our ancestors to the world that we borrow from
    future generations, so, however, whatever, whichever, whenever, wherever
    or whoever we are, we better be at our best."

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  • From ggggg9271@gmail.com@21:1/5 to gggg...@gmail.com on Thu Jul 26 23:31:54 2018
    On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 8:27:22 AM UTC-10, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 7:58:40 PM UTC-10, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
    https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=662&ei=BRxUW-e7GZDw_wSkiKboDg&q=superman+issue+death+of+superman&oq=superman+issue+death+of+superman&gs_l=img.3...9221.15632.0.15802.35.18.0.16.0.0.324.2082.0j9j2j1.12.0....0...1ac.1.64.
    img..7.11.1928.0..0j35i39k1j0i30k1j0i8i30k1.0.GxjqkYYoLZs#imgdii=u367T5mNCMCQfM:&imgrc=pW_TjV0BE-85DM:

    Do you have a favorite Swan story?

    According to the following:

    - ... I am one of those folks who think that Swan got better--much better--as he aged.

    https://sacomics.blogspot.com/2009/05/single-issue-review-adventure-227.html

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  • From ruben safir@21:1/5 to Wouter Valentijn on Sun Aug 12 15:04:06 2018
    On 07/23/2018 02:36 PM, Wouter Valentijn wrote:

    Can't remember the exact title... It must have been in the late '70s.

    There's this alien, other alien, living next door to Clark Kent.
    This guy manipulates Clark's suits so that when Clark is in his Clark
    Kent clothes he has NO powers. The situation becomes so strange for him
    that he must decide wether he wants to continue as Superman or not.
    In the end Superman figures out what's going on and his opponent has
    gathered about nine other villains to battle Superman.
    Obviously Supes wins.

    It's about the same time as other stories such as when his cousin tried
    to convince him that he and her were not from Krypton, but Earth born mutants.

    But that might have been Swan....


    Elliet S Maggin. That was a key issue, actually, in the Superman books.
    The good thing was that he nailed Lois finally...

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  • From ruben safir@21:1/5 to ruben safir on Sun Aug 12 16:59:14 2018
    On 08/12/2018 03:04 PM, ruben safir wrote:
    On 07/23/2018 02:36 PM, Wouter Valentijn wrote:

    Can't remember the exact title... It must have been in the late '70s.

    There's this alien, other alien, living next door to Clark Kent.
    This guy manipulates Clark's suits so that when Clark is in his Clark
    Kent clothes he has NO powers. The situation becomes so strange for him
    that he must decide wether he wants to continue as Superman or not.
    In the end Superman figures out what's going on and his opponent has
    gathered about nine other villains to battle Superman.
    Obviously Supes wins.

    It's about the same time as other stories such as when his cousin tried
    to convince him that he and her were not from Krypton, but Earth born
    mutants.

    But that might have been Swan....


    Elliet S Maggin. That was a key issue, actually, in the Superman books.
    The good thing was that he nailed Lois finally...





    http://community.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?79459-Recommended-Bronze-Age-Superman-Arcs&highlight=1970s+superman


    The four-parter in SUPERMAN 296 - 299 had Clark and Lois getting awfully
    close. Bates and Maggin co-wrote this story and they made it pretty
    clear that Clark slept with Lois. She stays overnight and arrives at
    work in the same clothes she had on the day before--which Steve Lombard
    remarks on. Julie Schwartz thought this was a bit too obvious for the
    Comics Code and insisted on a few changes--but the original version was reprinted in THE GREAT SUPERMAN COLLECTION (very hard to get this
    book--I've tried with no luck).

    Knocking heads with editor Schwartz began to get on Maggin's nerves,
    which soon caused him to quit working for Schwartz and that lasted for
    about five years.

    Heating up Lois and Clark's relationship was not without its
    consequences, either, as this is a running thread from SUPERMAN 301
    -310, before it's put front and centre in the Amalak four-parter in
    SUPERMAN 311 - 314. And even though this brings the romance to something
    of an uneasy conclusion, there's more development of Lois and Superman's relationship by Martin Pasko. He also brings in several new characters
    or develops established ones. And it's during his run that Lana Lang
    returns to Metropolis (after years abroad), to co-anchor the evening
    news with Clark. Pasko does a lot with Lana--who is more like the old
    Lois Lane from the '60s comics. While Lois gets to be the enlightend
    woman who is no longer out to hook Superman, Lana makes a fool of
    herself over Clark and Superman, both of whom she grew up with in
    Smallville. My sympathies were with the lovely red-head as she tries to reconnect with her old hometown friends. Lana in turn gets caught up
    with the Master Jalier--Carl "Moosie" Draper, the dumpy kid from
    Smallville that Lana ignored, now grown up.

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  • From Kevrob@21:1/5 to ruben safir on Sun Aug 12 18:13:23 2018
    On Sunday, August 12, 2018 at 3:04:26 PM UTC-4, ruben safir wrote:
    On 07/23/2018 02:36 PM, Wouter Valentijn wrote:

    Can't remember the exact title... It must have been in the late '70s.

    There's this alien, other alien, living next door to Clark Kent.
    This guy manipulates Clark's suits so that when Clark is in his Clark
    Kent clothes he has NO powers. The situation becomes so strange for him that he must decide wether he wants to continue as Superman or not.
    In the end Superman figures out what's going on and his opponent has gathered about nine other villains to battle Superman.
    Obviously Supes wins.

    It's about the same time as other stories such as when his cousin tried
    to convince him that he and her were not from Krypton, but Earth born mutants.

    But that might have been Swan....


    Elliet S Maggin.

    That's Elliot S! Maggin.

    "Magoon" co-wrote the 4-parter w/Cary Bates.


    That was a key issue, actually, in the Superman books.
    The good thing was that he nailed Lois finally...

    Swan pencils, Oksner inks.

    Kevin R

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  • From Wouter Valentijn@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 13 20:41:20 2018
    Op 12-8-2018 om 22:59 schreef ruben safir:
    On 08/12/2018 03:04 PM, ruben safir wrote:
    On 07/23/2018 02:36 PM, Wouter Valentijn wrote:

    Can't remember the exact title... It must have been in the late '70s.

    There's this alien, other alien, living next door to Clark Kent.
    This guy manipulates Clark's suits so that when Clark is in his Clark
    Kent clothes he has NO powers. The situation becomes so strange for him
    that he must decide wether he wants to continue as Superman or not.
    In the end Superman figures out what's going on and his opponent has
    gathered about nine other villains to battle Superman.
    Obviously Supes wins.

    It's about the same time as other stories such as when his cousin tried
    to convince him that he and her were not from Krypton, but Earth born
    mutants.

    But that might have been Swan....


    Elliet S Maggin. That was a key issue, actually, in the Superman books.
    The good thing was that he nailed Lois finally...





    http://community.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?79459-Recommended-Bronze-Age-Superman-Arcs&highlight=1970s+superman


    The four-parter in SUPERMAN 296 - 299 had Clark and Lois getting awfully close. Bates and Maggin co-wrote this story and they made it pretty
    clear that Clark slept with Lois. She stays overnight and arrives at
    work in the same clothes she had on the day before--which Steve Lombard remarks on. Julie Schwartz thought this was a bit too obvious for the
    Comics Code and insisted on a few changes--but the original version was reprinted in THE GREAT SUPERMAN COLLECTION (very hard to get this
    book--I've tried with no luck).

    I was looking for it too.


    Knocking heads with editor Schwartz began to get on Maggin's nerves,
    which soon caused him to quit working for Schwartz and that lasted for
    about five years.

    Heating up Lois and Clark's relationship was not without its
    consequences, either, as this is a running thread from SUPERMAN 301
    -310, before it's put front and centre in the Amalak four-parter in
    SUPERMAN 311 - 314. And even though this brings the romance to something
    of an uneasy conclusion, there's more development of Lois and Superman's relationship by Martin Pasko. He also brings in several new characters
    or develops established ones. And it's during his run that Lana Lang
    returns to Metropolis (after years abroad), to co-anchor the evening
    news with Clark. Pasko does a lot with Lana--who is more like the old
    Lois Lane from the '60s comics. While Lois gets to be the enlightend
    woman who is no longer out to hook Superman, Lana makes a fool of
    herself over Clark and Superman, both of whom she grew up with in
    Smallville. My sympathies were with the lovely red-head as she tries to reconnect with her old hometown friends. Lana in turn gets caught up
    with the Master Jalier--Carl "Moosie" Draper, the dumpy kid from
    Smallville that Lana ignored, now grown up.


    I think I remember that rivalry too.

    --
    Wouter Valentijn

    "We are the gift from our ancestors to the world that we borrow from
    future generations, so, however, whatever, whichever, whenever, wherever
    or whoever we are, we better be at our best."

    http://www.prozaportal.j3v.net
    http://www.essayportal.j3v.net

    liam=mail

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