Hi. :)
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th Doctor come
from?
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage spoilers
here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was that Zvffl fubg Fnkkba, naq
Fnkkba fubg Zvffl jvgu fbzrguvat gung jnf fhccbfrq gb cerirag
ertrarengvba?
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier age,
like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and occasionally messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a specific point.
Any ideas?
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 6:37 pm:
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th Doctor
come from?
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage
spoilers here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was that Zvffl fubg Fnkkba,
naq Fnkkba fubg Zvffl jvgu fbzrguvat gung jnf fhccbfrq gb cerirag
ertrarengvba?
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier
age, like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and
occasionally messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a
specific point.
Any ideas?
Va gur 'rneyvre ntr', gur Gvzr Ybeq Pbhapvy unq tvira Gur Znfgre n
arj frdhrapr bs 12 ertrarengvbaf.
Fb gur 13gu'f Znfgre jnf whfg nabgure bar va gur arj frdhrapr!!
(That was fun!! ;-) ... well, except for my Spell-Checker!)
Hi. :)
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th Doctor come
from?
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage spoilers
here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was that Zvffl fubg Fnkkba, naq
Fnkkba fubg Zvffl jvgu fbzrguvat gung jnf fhccbfrq gb cerirag
ertrarengvba?
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier age,
like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and occasionally messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a specific point.
Any ideas?
On 27.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 6:37 pm:
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th
Doctor come from?
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage
spoilers here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was that Zvffl fubg
Fnkkba, naq Fnkkba fubg Zvffl jvgu fbzrguvat gung jnf fhccbfrq gb
cerirag ertrarengvba?
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier
age, like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and
occasionally messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a
specific point.
Any ideas?
Va gur 'rneyvre ntr', gur Gvzr Ybeq Pbhapvy unq tvira Gur Znfgre n
arj frdhrapr bs 12 ertrarengvbaf.
Fb gur 13gu'f Znfgre jnf whfg nabgure bar va gur arj frdhrapr!!
Rneyvre ntr nf va pynffvp, be fbzrguvat va gur arj frevrf? V qba'g
erzrzore gur Znfgre trggvat n arj frdhrapr bs ertrarengvbaf nsgre
Zvffl.
V'z pheeragyl (cnegyl er-)jngpuvat Pynffvpf. Gurer jnf byq jvgurerq
Znfgre jub fgbyr Avffna'f sngure'f obql jvgu gur cbjre bs gur Xrrcre
bs Genxra, ng gur raq bs uvf 12 ertra plpyr. Znlor gung tnir uvz n
arj frg bs 12 ertrarengvbaf.
Ohg nal Znfgre nsgre Zvffl... Bx, V svther fur jbhyq unir xabja ure
byq frys jbhyq fubbg ure jvgu fbzrguvat ceriragvat ertrarengvbaf,
naq cercnerq sbe vg. Gurer frrzf gb or ab pbaarpgvat guernq gubhtu,
gur Znfgre jub ohttrq #13 whfg ghearq hc bhg bs abjurer, nf sne nf V
tenfcrq vg.
(That was fun!! ;-) ... well, except for my Spell-Checker!)
Lol. :)
On 27.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 6:37 pm:
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th Doctor
come from?
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage
spoilers here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was that Zvffl fubg Fnkkba,
naq Fnkkba fubg Zvffl jvgu fbzrguvat gung jnf fhccbfrq gb cerirag
ertrarengvba?
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier
age, like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and
occasionally messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a
specific point.
Any ideas?
Va gur 'rneyvre ntr', gur Gvzr Ybeq Pbhapvy unq tvira Gur Znfgre n
arj frdhrapr bs 12 ertrarengvbaf.
Fb gur 13gu'f Znfgre jnf whfg nabgure bar va gur arj frdhrapr!!
Rneyvre ntr nf va pynffvp, be fbzrguvat va gur arj frevrf? V qba'g
erzrzore gur Znfgre trggvat n arj frdhrapr bs ertrarengvbaf nsgre Zvffl.
V'z pheeragyl (cnegyl er-)jngpuvat Pynffvpf. Gurer jnf byq jvgurerq
Znfgre jub fgbyr Avffna'f sngure'f obql jvgu gur cbjre bs gur Xrrcre bs Genxra, ng gur raq bs uvf 12 ertra plpyr. Znlor gung tnir uvz n arj frg
bs 12 ertrarengvbaf.
Ohg nal Znfgre nsgre Zvffl... Bx, V svther fur jbhyq unir xabja ure byq
frys jbhyq fubbg ure jvgu fbzrguvat ceriragvat ertrarengvbaf, naq
cercnerq sbe vg. Gurer frrzf gb or ab pbaarpgvat guernq gubhtu, gur
Znfgre jub ohttrq #13 whfg ghearq hc bhg bs abjurer, nf sne nf V tenfcrq
vg.
(That was fun!! ;-) ... well, except for my Spell-Checker!)
Lol. :)
Hi. :)
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th Doctor come
from?
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage spoilers
here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was that Zvffl fubg Fnkkba, naq
Fnkkba fubg Zvffl jvgu fbzrguvat gung jnf fhccbfrq gb cerirag
ertrarengvba?
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier age,
like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and occasionally >messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a specific point.
Any ideas?
--
Mickmane
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 6:37 pm:
Hi. :)Va gur 'rneyvre ntr', gur Gvzr Ybeq Pbhapvy unq tvira Gur Znfgre n arj >frdhrapr bs 12 ertrarengvbaf.
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th Doctor come
from?
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage spoilers
here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was that Zvffl fubg Fnkkba, naq
Fnkkba fubg Zvffl jvgu fbzrguvat gung jnf fhccbfrq gb cerirag
ertrarengvba?
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier age,
like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and occasionally
messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a specific point.
Any ideas?
Fb gur 13gu'f Znfgre jnf whfg nabgure bar va gur arj frdhrapr!!
(That was fun!! ;-) ... well, except for my Spell-Checker!)
--
Daniel
Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
Hi. :)
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th Doctor come
from?
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage spoilers
here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was that Zvffl fubg Fnkkba, naq
Fnkkba fubg Zvffl jvgu fbzrguvat gung jnf fhccbfrq gb cerirag
ertrarengvba?
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier age,
like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and occasionally
messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a specific point.
Any ideas?
He’s after Missy. Just because the Simm Master thinks he was going to kill >Missy, doesn’t mean it was true. Remember, she recalled her encounter with >Simm enough to keep an extra essential TARDIS component in inventory - so
why not recall that he was going to shoot her? Handwave that she recalls >enough that her jacket was reinforced to absorb some of the damage from a >laser screwdriver and - there you go. She escapes.
The Master always returns from certain doom. Often with no explanation >whatsoever. Occam’s razor says, Dhawan is a later Master. Otherwise, we’re >going to be shoehorning future Masters into past timelines from here to >Eternity in the show.
Because future Masters and Mistresses are coming. 100%.
--
“The timelines and … canon … are rupturing” - the Doctor
On 27.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 6:37 pm:
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th Doctor
come from?
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage
spoilers here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was that Zvffl fubg Fnkkba,
naq Fnkkba fubg Zvffl jvgu fbzrguvat gung jnf fhccbfrq gb cerirag
ertrarengvba?
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier
age, like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and
occasionally messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a
specific point.
Any ideas?
Va gur 'rneyvre ntr', gur Gvzr Ybeq Pbhapvy unq tvira Gur Znfgre n
arj frdhrapr bs 12 ertrarengvbaf.
Fb gur 13gu'f Znfgre jnf whfg nabgure bar va gur arj frdhrapr!!
Rneyvre ntr nf va pynffvp, be fbzrguvat va gur arj frevrf? V qba'g
erzrzore gur Znfgre trggvat n arj frdhrapr bs ertrarengvbaf nsgre Zvffl.
V'z pheeragyl (cnegyl er-)jngpuvat Pynffvpf. Gurer jnf byq jvgurerq
Znfgre jub fgbyr Avffna'f sngure'f obql jvgu gur cbjre bs gur Xrrcre bs >Genxra, ng gur raq bs uvf 12 ertra plpyr. Znlor gung tnir uvz n arj frg
bs 12 ertrarengvbaf.
Ohg nal Znfgre nsgre Zvffl... Bx, V svther fur jbhyq unir xabja ure byq
frys jbhyq fubbg ure jvgu fbzrguvat ceriragvat ertrarengvbaf, naq
cercnerq sbe vg. Gurer frrzf gb or ab pbaarpgvat guernq gubhtu, gur
Znfgre jub ohttrq #13 whfg ghearq hc bhg bs abjurer, nf sne nf V tenfcrq
vg.
(That was fun!! ;-) ... well, except for my Spell-Checker!)
Lol. :)
--
Mickmane
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 11:18 pm:
On 27.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:Nope!! Too much for Google Translate.
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 6:37 pm:
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th
Doctor come from?
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage
spoilers here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was that Zvffl fubg
Fnkkba, naq Fnkkba fubg Zvffl jvgu fbzrguvat gung jnf fhccbfrq gb
cerirag ertrarengvba?
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier
age, like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and
occasionally messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a
specific point.
Any ideas?
Va gur 'rneyvre ntr', gur Gvzr Ybeq Pbhapvy unq tvira Gur Znfgre n
arj frdhrapr bs 12 ertrarengvbaf.
Fb gur 13gu'f Znfgre jnf whfg nabgure bar va gur arj frdhrapr!!
Rneyvre ntr nf va pynffvp, be fbzrguvat va gur arj frevrf? V qba'g
erzrzore gur Znfgre trggvat n arj frdhrapr bs ertrarengvbaf nsgre
Zvffl.
V'z pheeragyl (cnegyl er-)jngpuvat Pynffvpf. Gurer jnf byq jvgurerq
Znfgre jub fgbyr Avffna'f sngure'f obql jvgu gur cbjre bs gur Xrrcre
bs Genxra, ng gur raq bs uvf 12 ertra plpyr. Znlor gung tnir uvz n
arj frg bs 12 ertrarengvbaf.
Ohg nal Znfgre nsgre Zvffl... Bx, V svther fur jbhyq unir xabja ure
byq frys jbhyq fubbg ure jvgu fbzrguvat ceriragvat ertrarengvbaf,
naq cercnerq sbe vg. Gurer frrzf gb or ab pbaarpgvat guernq gubhtu,
gur Znfgre jub ohttrq #13 whfg ghearq hc bhg bs abjurer, nf sne nf V
tenfcrq vg.
(That was fun!! ;-) ... well, except for my Spell-Checker!)
Lol. :)
Sorry.
--
Daniel
Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 27.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 6:37 pm:
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th Doctor
come from?
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage
spoilers here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was that Zvffl fubg Fnkkba,
naq Fnkkba fubg Zvffl jvgu fbzrguvat gung jnf fhccbfrq gb cerirag
ertrarengvba?
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier
age, like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and
occasionally messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a
specific point.
Any ideas?
Va gur 'rneyvre ntr', gur Gvzr Ybeq Pbhapvy unq tvira Gur Znfgre n
arj frdhrapr bs 12 ertrarengvbaf.
Fb gur 13gu'f Znfgre jnf whfg nabgure bar va gur arj frdhrapr!!
Rneyvre ntr nf va pynffvp, be fbzrguvat va gur arj frevrf? V qba'g
erzrzore gur Znfgre trggvat n arj frdhrapr bs ertrarengvbaf nsgre Zvffl.
V'z pheeragyl (cnegyl er-)jngpuvat Pynffvpf. Gurer jnf byq jvgurerq
Znfgre jub fgbyr Avffna'f sngure'f obql jvgu gur cbjre bs gur Xrrcre bs
Genxra, ng gur raq bs uvf 12 ertra plpyr. Znlor gung tnir uvz n arj frg
bs 12 ertrarengvbaf.
Ohg nal Znfgre nsgre Zvffl... Bx, V svther fur jbhyq unir xabja ure byq
frys jbhyq fubbg ure jvgu fbzrguvat ceriragvat ertrarengvbaf, naq
cercnerq sbe vg. Gurer frrzf gb or ab pbaarpgvat guernq gubhtu, gur
Znfgre jub ohttrq #13 whfg ghearq hc bhg bs abjurer, nf sne nf V tenfcrq
vg.
(That was fun!! ;-) ... well, except for my Spell-Checker!)
Lol. :)
Ok cycle 1 - a sequence of Masters including the classic Roger Delgado
Master up to the Crispy Master of The Deadly Assassin and The Keeper of >Traken.
The body thief: the Ainley Master. The executed Master, the Deathworm and >Eric Roberts Master from the Movie. Lost in the Vortex.
Cycle 2. Resurrected from the Matrix to fight in the Time War, the Time
Lord Jacobi Master evaded his superiors by using a Chameleon Arch to run
away to the end of the Universe disguised as the human child who would
become Professor Yana. That could have been his first new incarnation, but >even if it was his second or third, the Simm Master followed by Missy and
the Dhawan Master is still only halfway through this cycle.
--
“The timelines and … canon … are rupturing” - the Doctor
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 6:37 pm:
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage
spoilers here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was that Missy shot Saxxon,
and Saxxon shot Missy with something that was supposed to prevent regeneration?
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier
age, like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and occasionally messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a
specific point.
Any ideas?
In the 'earlier age', the Time Lord Council had given The Master a
new sequence of 12 regenerations.
So the 13th's Master was just another one in the new sequence!!
(That was fun!! ;-) ... well, except for my Spell-Checker!)
In article <up300n$3d1fd$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Cycle 2. Resurrected from the Matrix to fight in the Time War,
the Time Lord Jacobi Master evaded his superiors by using a
Chameleon Arch to run away to the end of the Universe disguised
as the human child who would become Professor Yana. That could
have been his first new incarnation, but even if it was his
second or third, the Simm Master followed by Missy and the Dhawan
Master is still only halfway through this cycle.
The Timeless Child does not exist in Doctor Who!
Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier
age, like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and
occasionally messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a
specific point.
Any ideas?
He?s after Missy. Just because the Simm Master thinks he was going to
kill Missy, doesn?t mean it was true. Remember, she recalled her
encounter with Simm enough to keep an extra essential TARDIS
component in inventory - so why not recall that he was going to shoot
her? Handwave that she recalls enough that her jacket was reinforced
to absorb some of the damage from a laser screwdriver and - there you
go. She escapes.
The Master always returns from certain doom. Often with no
explanation whatsoever. Occam?s razor says, Dhawan is a later Master. Otherwise, we?re going to be shoehorning future Masters into past
timelines from here to Eternity in the show.
Because future Masters and Mistresses are coming. 100%.
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 11:18 pm:
On 27.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 6:37 pm:
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th
Doctor come from?
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage
spoilers here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was gung Zvffl fubg
Fnkkba, naq Fnkkba fubg Zvffl jvgu fbzrguvat gung jnf fhccbfrq gb
cerirag ertrarengvba?
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier
age, like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and
occasionally messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a
specific point.
Any ideas?
In the 'earlier age', the Time Lord Council had given The Master a
new sequence of 12 regenerations.
So the 13th's Master was just another one in the new sequence!!
Nope!! Too much for Google Translate.
The Doctor wrote:
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Cycle 2. Resurrected from the Matrix to fight in the Time War,
the Time Lord Jacobi Master evaded his superiors by using a
Chameleon Arch to run away to the end of the Universe disguised
as the human child who would become Professor Yana. That could
have been his first new incarnation, but even if it was his
second or third, the Simm Master followed by Missy and the Dhawan
Master is still only halfway through this cycle.
The Timeless Child does not exist in Doctor Who!
Yes it does. It was a part of the 13th Doctor's era of the show,
whether you like it or not.
Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 27.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
In the 'earlier age', the Time Lord Council had given The Master a
new sequence of 12 regenerations.
So the 13th's Master was just another one in the new sequence!!
Earlier age as in classic, or something in the new series? I don't
remember the Master getting a new sequence of regenerations after
Missy.
I'm currently (partly re-)watching Classics. There was old withered
Master who stole Nissan's father's body with the power of the Keeper
of Traken, at the end of his 12 regen cycle. Maybe that gave him a
new set of 12 regenerations.
Ok cycle 1 - a sequence of Masters including the classic Roger
Delgado Master up to the Crispy Master of The Deadly Assassin and The
Keeper of Traken.
The body thief: the Ainley Master. The executed Master, the Deathworm
and Eric Roberts Master from the Movie. Lost in the Vortex.
Cycle 2. Resurrected from the Matrix to fight in the Time War, the
Time Lord Jacobi Master evaded his superiors by using a Chameleon
Arch to run away
to the end of the Universe disguised as the human child who would
become Professor Yana. That could have been his first new incarnation,
but even if it was his second or third, the Simm Master followed by
Missy and the Dhawan Master is still only halfway through this cycle.
In article <GXe7S$k5czB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th Doctor
come from?
The real 13th Doctor looks like the 10th Doctor!
I wouldn't consider anything from Steven Moffat or Chris Chibnall's
era of Doctor Who to need spoilers that need to be decrypted for
readers of RADW...
Daniel65 wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 6:37 pm:
In the 'earlier age', the Time Lord Council had given The Master a
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage
spoilers here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was that Missy shot Saxxon,
and Saxxon shot Missy with something that was supposed to prevent
regeneration?
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier
age, like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and
occasionally messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a
specific point.
Any ideas?
new sequence of 12 regenerations.
So the 13th's Master was just another one in the new sequence!!
(That was fun!! ;-) ... well, except for my Spell-Checker!)
Fun, but not really necessary...
I wouldn't consider anything from Steven Moffat or Chris Chibnall's
era of Doctor Who to need spoilers that need to be decrypted for
readers of RADW...
The Doctor wrote:
In article <up300n$3d1fd$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Cycle 2. Resurrected from the Matrix to fight in the Time War,
the Time Lord Jacobi Master evaded his superiors by using a
Chameleon Arch to run away to the end of the Universe disguised
as the human child who would become Professor Yana. That could
have been his first new incarnation, but even if it was his
second or third, the Simm Master followed by Missy and the Dhawan
Master is still only halfway through this cycle.
The Timeless Child does not exist in Doctor Who!
Yes it does. It was a part of the 13th Doctor's era of the show,
whether you like it or not.
On 27.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 11:18 pm:
On 27.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 6:37 pm:
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th
Doctor come from?
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage
spoilers here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was gung Zvffl fubg
Fnkkba, naq Fnkkba fubg Zvffl jvgu fbzrguvat gung jnf fhccbfrq gb
cerirag ertrarengvba?
Warning: Rot-13 undone from hereon!
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier
age, like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and
occasionally messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a
specific point.
Any ideas?
In the 'earlier age', the Time Lord Council had given The Master a
new sequence of 12 regenerations.
So the 13th's Master was just another one in the new sequence!!
[Rot-13 reply moved and decoded]
Nope!! Too much for Google Translate.
Lol, google translate? It's 'mark' and 2 key presses here. :)
Here, my text again fresh and new without rot-13:
Earlier age as in classic, or something in the new series? I don't
remember the Master getting a new sequence of regenerations after Missy.
I'm currently (partly re-)watching Classics. There was old withered
Master who stole Nissan's father's body with the power of the Keeper of >Traken, at the end of his 12 regen cycle. Maybe that gave him a new set
of 12 regenerations.
But any Master after Missy... Ok, I figure she would have known her old
self would shoot her with something preventing regenerations, and
prepared for it. There seems to be no connecting thread though, the
Master who bugged #13 just turned up out of nowhere, as far as I grasped
it.
--
Mickmane
On 27.01.24, The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier
age, like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and
occasionally messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a
specific point.
Any ideas?
He?s after Missy. Just because the Simm Master thinks he was going to
kill Missy, doesn?t mean it was true. Remember, she recalled her
encounter with Simm enough to keep an extra essential TARDIS
component in inventory - so why not recall that he was going to shoot
her? Handwave that she recalls enough that her jacket was reinforced
to absorb some of the damage from a laser screwdriver and - there you
go. She escapes.
Yeah, I was thinking that she'd remember enough to protect herself, too,
but that there is no thread at all to the new one bugs me.
And Missy was on the Doctor's side in the end. New one was so much
crazier and more like Classic Master.
The Master always returns from certain doom. Often with no
explanation whatsoever. Occam?s razor says, Dhawan is a later Master.
Otherwise, we?re going to be shoehorning future Masters into past
timelines from here to Eternity in the show.
Hm, anything's possible, even a "once only" of this. :)
Because future Masters and Mistresses are coming. 100%.
Oh, definitely! :)
Now whose was the hand with the red fingernails who picked up the gold
tooth that the Toymaker had said was the Master's prison (and how did
the Master get into the tooth)?
--
Mickmane
On 27.01.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
I wouldn't consider anything from Steven Moffat or Chris Chibnall's
era of Doctor Who to need spoilers that need to be decrypted for
readers of RADW...
Ok, noted. :) Thanks!
--
Mickmane
In article <GXe7tUt5czB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 27.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
In article <GXe7S$k5czB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th Doctor
come from?
The real 13th Doctor looks like the 10th Doctor!
Are you trying to suppress 11th too?
No!!
In article <GXe7u2DLczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 27.01.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
The Timeless Child does not exist in Doctor Who!
Yes it does. It was a part of the 13th Doctor's era of the show,
whether you like it or not.
Yeah, but it was just Master messing with the Matrix again.
Even the Toymaker called our first Doctor the first Doctor.
We know how regeneration got into the Time Lords' DNA since Melody
Pond. :)
The Timeless Child does not exist in Doctor Who!
On 27.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 11:18 pm:
On 27.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 6:37 pm:
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th
Doctor come from?
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage
spoilers here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was gung Zvffl fubg
Fnkkba, naq Fnkkba fubg Zvffl jvgu fbzrguvat gung jnf
fhccbfrq gb cerirag ertrarengvba?
Warning: Rot-13 undone from hereon!
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an
earlier age, like Classic times when he was big on shrinking
people and occasionally messing with the Matrix. But that
still lacks a specific point.
Any ideas?
In the 'earlier age', the Time Lord Council had given The
Master a new sequence of 12 regenerations.
So the 13th's Master was just another one in the new
sequence!!
[Rot-13 reply moved and decoded]
Nope!! Too much for Google Translate.
Lol, google translate? It's 'mark' and 2 key presses here. :)
Here, my text again fresh and new without rot-13:
Earlier age as in classic, or something in the new series?
I don't remember the Master getting a new sequence of regenerationsDaniel
after Missy.
I'm currently (partly re-)watching Classics. There was old withered
Master who stole Nissan's father's body with the power of the Keeper
of Traken, at the end of his 12 regen cycle. Maybe that gave him a
new set of 12 regenerations.
But any Master after Missy... Ok, I figure she would have known her
old self would shoot her with something preventing regenerations,
and prepared for it. There seems to be no connecting thread though,
the Master who bugged #13 just turned up out of nowhere, as far as I
grasped it.
--
On 27.01.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Cycle 2. Resurrected from the Matrix to fight in the Time War,
the Time Lord Jacobi Master evaded his superiors by using a
Chameleon Arch to run away to the end of the Universe
disguised as the human child who would become Professor Yana.
That could have been his first new incarnation, but even if it
was his second or third, the Simm Master followed by Missy and
the Dhawan Master is still only halfway through this cycle.
The Timeless Child does not exist in Doctor Who!
Yes it does. It was a part of the 13th Doctor's era of the show,
whether you like it or not.
Yeah, but it was just Master messing with the Matrix again.
Even the Toymaker called our first Doctor the first Doctor.
In article <up2lt8$3bf84$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 6:37 pm:
Hi. :)Va gur 'rneyvre ntr', gur Gvzr Ybeq Pbhapvy unq tvira Gur Znfgre n arj
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th Doctor come
from?
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage spoilers
here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was that Zvffl fubg Fnkkba, naq
Fnkkba fubg Zvffl jvgu fbzrguvat gung jnf fhccbfrq gb cerirag
ertrarengvba?
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an earlier age,
like Classic times when he was big on shrinking people and occasionally
messing with the Matrix. But that still lacks a specific point.
Any ideas?
frdhrapr bs 12 ertrarengvbaf.
Fb gur 13gu'f Znfgre jnf whfg nabgure bar va gur arj frdhrapr!!
(That was fun!! ;-) ... well, except for my Spell-Checker!)
Rot13 Dannyboy?
In article <GXe7t4paczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 27.01.24, The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
The Master always returns from certain doom. Often with no
explanation whatsoever. Occam?s razor says, Dhawan is a later
Master. Otherwise, we?re going to be shoehorning future Masters
into past timelines from here to Eternity in the show.
Hm, anything's possible, even a "once only" of this. :)
Because future Masters and Mistresses are coming. 100%.
Oh, definitely! :)
Now whose was the hand with the red fingernails who picked up the
gold tooth that the Toymaker had said was the Master's prison (and
how did the Master get into the tooth)?
MAybe the result of biregeneration.
On 27.01.24, The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 27.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
In the 'earlier age', the Time Lord Council had given The Master a
new sequence of 12 regenerations.
So the 13th's Master was just another one in the new sequence!!
Earlier age as in classic, or something in the new series? I don't
remember the Master getting a new sequence of regenerations after
Missy.
I'm currently (partly re-)watching Classics. There was old withered
Master who stole Nissan's father's body with the power of the Keeper
of Traken, at the end of his 12 regen cycle. Maybe that gave him a
new set of 12 regenerations.
Ok cycle 1 - a sequence of Masters including the classic Roger
Delgado Master up to the Crispy Master of The Deadly Assassin and The
Keeper of Traken.
I got to that bit the other day, and wondered what I'd forgotten about
where the Master before Crispy ended up. (I got a bit fed up with too
much Master during the 3rd Doctor, maybe I didn't pay enough attention.)
The body thief: the Ainley Master. The executed Master, the Deathworm
and Eric Roberts Master from the Movie. Lost in the Vortex.
I'm currently re-watching early 5th Doctor, so somewhere in the middle
of that. :)
Cycle 2. Resurrected from the Matrix to fight in the Time War, the
Time Lord Jacobi Master evaded his superiors by using a Chameleon
Arch to run away
I have not watched that third bit yet, then. Thanks!
to the end of the Universe disguised as the human child who would
become Professor Yana. That could have been his first new incarnation,
but even if it was his second or third, the Simm Master followed by
Missy and the Dhawan Master is still only halfway through this cycle.
I'm just missing the connecting thread between Missy and who you call
Dhawan Master.
Maybe it's just me, but it's been bugging me for a while now. :)
On 28.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <GXe7tUt5czB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 27.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
In article <GXe7S$k5czB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th Doctor
come from?
The real 13th Doctor looks like the 10th Doctor!
Are you trying to suppress 11th too?
No!!
11th is the only one I dread re-watching to see what I might have
missed.
Old dude Doctor, #12 was ok. Lady Doctor, #13, was good again.
(#9 had been good, #10 was best, brilliant, greatest Doctor! #11 ruined
the series, made it unwatchable for years.)
As you may guess, I'm super happy about bigeneration. Even if we never
see him again, he's out there! :))))
--
Mickmane
Mickmane wrote on 28/1/24 6:12 am:
On 27.01.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Cycle 2. Resurrected from the Matrix to fight in the Time War,
the Time Lord Jacobi Master evaded his superiors by using a
Chameleon Arch to run away to the end of the Universe
disguised as the human child who would become Professor Yana.
That could have been his first new incarnation, but even if it
was his second or third, the Simm Master followed by Missy and
the Dhawan Master is still only halfway through this cycle.
The Timeless Child does not exist in Doctor Who!
Yes it does. It was a part of the 13th Doctor's era of the show,
whether you like it or not.
Yeah, but it was just Master messing with the Matrix again.
Even the Toymaker called our first Doctor the first Doctor.
For Disney+ purposes, This *IS* The First Doctor.
Hopefully the Disney+ influence/effect will inspire a whole new audience
to investigate/download Classic Who and Reboot Who.
--
Daniel
The Doctor wrote on 28/1/24 11:42 am:
In article <GXe7t4paczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 27.01.24, The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
<Snip>
The Master always returns from certain doom. Often with no
explanation whatsoever. Occam?s razor says, Dhawan is a later
Master. Otherwise, we?re going to be shoehorning future Masters
into past timelines from here to Eternity in the show.
Hm, anything's possible, even a "once only" of this. :)
Because future Masters and Mistresses are coming. 100%.
Oh, definitely! :)
Now whose was the hand with the red fingernails who picked up the
gold tooth that the Toymaker had said was the Master's prison (and
how did the Master get into the tooth)?
MAybe the result of biregeneration.
SORRY!! WHAT!! YOU, clown, think The Master got caught up in the >'biregeneration', clown??
REALLY!! And YOU'VE actually SEEN the episodes .... or have YOU, clown??
--
Daniel
Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 27.01.24, The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 27.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
In the 'earlier age', the Time Lord Council had given The Master a
new sequence of 12 regenerations.
So the 13th's Master was just another one in the new sequence!!
Earlier age as in classic, or something in the new series? I don't
remember the Master getting a new sequence of regenerations after
Missy.
I'm currently (partly re-)watching Classics. There was old withered
Master who stole Nissan's father's body with the power of the Keeper
of Traken, at the end of his 12 regen cycle. Maybe that gave him a
new set of 12 regenerations.
Ok cycle 1 - a sequence of Masters including the classic Roger
Delgado Master up to the Crispy Master of The Deadly Assassin and The
Keeper of Traken.
I got to that bit the other day, and wondered what I'd forgotten about
where the Master before Crispy ended up. (I got a bit fed up with too
much Master during the 3rd Doctor, maybe I didn't pay enough attention.)
The body thief: the Ainley Master. The executed Master, the Deathworm
and Eric Roberts Master from the Movie. Lost in the Vortex.
I'm currently re-watching early 5th Doctor, so somewhere in the middle
of that. :)
Cycle 2. Resurrected from the Matrix to fight in the Time War, the
Time Lord Jacobi Master evaded his superiors by using a Chameleon
Arch to run away
I have not watched that third bit yet, then. Thanks!
to the end of the Universe disguised as the human child who would
become Professor Yana. That could have been his first new incarnation,
but even if it was his second or third, the Simm Master followed by
Missy and the Dhawan Master is still only halfway through this cycle.
I'm just missing the connecting thread between Missy and who you call
Dhawan Master.
Maybe it's just me, but it's been bugging me for a while now. :)
Connections between incarnations of the Master and his reappearances have >always been - sparse.
Delgado was in Frontier in Space and the next Master we saw was Mr Crispy
in The Deadly Assassin. Despite the Master being a Time Lord, a simple >regeneration explanation (and less grisly Master) wasn’t used.
(In real life, Delgado had died in a car crash in 1973 so his planned next >appearance in a serial called “The Final Game” never happened.)
We do see Mr Crispy steal the Trakenite body of Tremas in The Keeper of >Traken. However how he escaped from the collapse of Castrovalva, returned >from being abandoned in Earth’s ancient past without a TARDIS in >Time-Flight, from being miniaturised and burned to ashes in Planet of Fire, >from being turned feline and abandoned on the disintegrating planet of the >Cheetah People in Survival, are unexplained.
As his ability to regenerate from exterminated remains into an alien worm >which then takes over a human body.
And to be resurrected from his own signet ring, with the same appearance
give or take moments of skeletal burnout and a bad blonde dye job.
And to return from being trapped in the Time Lords’ pocket dimension with >Gallifrey as Missy.
So appearing as “O” without justification after yet another certain death >is just - well, par for the course.
--
“The timelines and … canon … are rupturing” - the Doctor
In article <GXi88mT5czB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 28.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
In article <GXe7u2DLczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
Yeah, but it was just Master messing with the Matrix again.
Even the Toymaker called our first Doctor the first Doctor.
We know how regeneration got into the Time Lords' DNA since Melody
Pond. :)
The Timeless Child does not exist in Doctor Who!
Did you forget to read what you're quoting again? :P
"Timeless Child" was just some story the Master put into the Matrix
to torture the Doctor.
I still say
The Timeless Child does not exist in Doctor Who!
Mickmane wrote on 28/1/24 6:12 am:
On 27.01.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Yes it does. It was a part of the 13th Doctor's era of the show,
whether you like it or not.
Yeah, but it was just Master messing with the Matrix again.
Even the Toymaker called our first Doctor the first Doctor.
For Disney+ purposes, This *IS* The First Doctor.
Hopefully the Disney+ influence/effect will inspire a whole new
audience to investigate/download Classic Who and Reboot Who.
Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
I'm just missing the connecting thread between Missy and who you
call Dhawan Master.
Maybe it's just me, but it's been bugging me for a while now. :)
Connections between incarnations of the Master and his reappearances
have always been - sparse.
We do see Mr Crispy steal the Trakenite body of Tremas in The Keeper
of Traken. However how he escaped from the collapse of Castrovalva,
returned from being abandoned in Earth?s ancient past without a
TARDIS in Time-Flight, from being miniaturised and burned to ashes in
Planet of Fire, from being turned feline and abandoned on the
disintegrating planet of the Cheetah People in Survival, are
unexplained.
As his ability to regenerate from exterminated remains into an alien
worm which then takes over a human body.
And to be resurrected from his own signet ring, with the same
appearance give or take moments of skeletal burnout and a bad blonde
dye job.
And to return from being trapped in the Time Lords? pocket dimension
with Gallifrey as Missy.
So appearing as ?O? without justification after yet another certain
death is just - well, par for the course.
On 28.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <GXi88mT5czB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 28.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
In article <GXe7u2DLczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
Yeah, but it was just Master messing with the Matrix again.
Even the Toymaker called our first Doctor the first Doctor.
We know how regeneration got into the Time Lords' DNA since Melody
Pond. :)
The Timeless Child does not exist in Doctor Who!
Did you forget to read what you're quoting again? :P
"Timeless Child" was just some story the Master put into the Matrix
to torture the Doctor.
I still say
The Timeless Child does not exist in Doctor Who!
As a person? No.
Just as a fairy tale figure, made up by the Master.
--
Mickmane
On 28.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 28/1/24 6:12 am:
On 27.01.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Yes it does. It was a part of the 13th Doctor's era of the show,
whether you like it or not.
Yeah, but it was just Master messing with the Matrix again.
Even the Toymaker called our first Doctor the first Doctor.
For Disney+ purposes, This *IS* The First Doctor.
That's Disney+'s problem though, nothing to do with the actual series.
:)
Hopefully the Disney+ influence/effect will inspire a whole new
audience to investigate/download Classic Who and Reboot Who.
Hopefully, Disney+ influence will not mess up the feel of the series.
--
Mickmane
In article <nnd$387a4ae2$7a4f3d08@66ba1dcf7ad5e9f3>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Mickmane wrote:
On 28.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
Did you forget to read what you're quoting again? :P
Dave doesn't pay attention full stop.
Try again BS!
The Doctor wrote:
In article <nnd$387a4ae2$7a4f3d08@66ba1dcf7ad5e9f3>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Mickmane wrote:
On 28.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
Did you forget to read what you're quoting again? :P
Dave doesn't pay attention full stop.
Try again BS!
I don't need to try anything, your responses here prove to everyone
that you don't pay attention.
Mickmane wrote:
On 28.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
Did you forget to read what you're quoting again? :P
Dave doesn't pay attention full stop.
On 28.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
Did you forget to read what you're quoting again? :P
The Doctor wrote:
In article <GXi8QgDLczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:vince
On 28.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote: >>>> In article <GXi88mT5czB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 28.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
In article <GXe7u2DLczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
Yeah, but it was just Master messing with the Matrix again.
Even the Toymaker called our first Doctor the first Doctor.
We know how regeneration got into the Time Lords' DNA since Melody >>>>>>> Pond. :)
The Timeless Child does not exist in Doctor Who!
Did you forget to read what you're quoting again? :P
"Timeless Child" was just some story the Master put into the Matrix
to torture the Doctor.
I still say
The Timeless Child does not exist in Doctor Who!
As a person? No.
Just as a fairy tale figure, made up by the Master.
Let us hope the Timelss Child is retconned out of the DW Lore!
--
Mickmane
In article <GXi8Qv2qczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 28.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Hopefully the Disney+ influence/effect will inspire a whole new
audience to investigate/download Classic Who and Reboot Who.
Hopefully, Disney+ influence will not mess up the feel of the
series.
Ever saw the Disney version of HHGTTG?
In article <GXi8RC4qczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 28.01.24, The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Ah, but that's Saxxon->Saxxon, same dude. :) I'm looking for a
continued thread, not how he does things. :)
And to return from being trapped in the Time Lords? pocket
dimension with Gallifrey as Missy.
So appearing as ?O? without justification after yet another certain
death is just - well, par for the course.
Maybe you're right. :)
Thanks for all this! :)
What do you recall of Survival or DW:TVM?
On 29.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <GXi8RC4qczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 28.01.24, The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
[...]
Ah, but that's Saxxon->Saxxon, same dude. :) I'm looking for a
continued thread, not how he does things. :)
And to return from being trapped in the Time Lords? pocket
dimension with Gallifrey as Missy.
So appearing as ?O? without justification after yet another certain
death is just - well, par for the course.
Maybe you're right. :)
Thanks for all this! :)
What do you recall of Survival or DW:TVM?
What's Survival?
I caught the film on TV some day. Master tried to steal Doctor's body?
Why?
--
Mickmane
On 29.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <GXi8Qv2qczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 28.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Hopefully the Disney+ influence/effect will inspire a whole new
audience to investigate/download Classic Who and Reboot Who.
Hopefully, Disney+ influence will not mess up the feel of the
series.
Ever saw the Disney version of HHGTTG?
I don't think so.
I'm pretty sure what I saw on TV was a UK production. With Sherlock's
Watson as Arthur Dent. :)
Asking google though, it seems that was the disney production? Hm. I'm >confused.
--
Mickmane
In article <up5ag8$3s3ll$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 28/1/24 6:12 am:
On 27.01.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Cycle 2. Resurrected from the Matrix to fight in the Time
War, the Time Lord Jacobi Master evaded his superiors by
using a Chameleon Arch to run away to the end of the
Universe disguised as the human child who would become
Professor Yana. That could have been his first new
incarnation, but even if it was his second or third, the
Simm Master followed by Missy and the Dhawan Master is
still only halfway through this cycle.
The Timeless Child does not exist in Doctor Who!
Yes it does. It was a part of the 13th Doctor's era of the
show, whether you like it or not.
Yeah, but it was just Master messing with the Matrix again.
Even the Toymaker called our first Doctor the first Doctor.
For Disney+ purposes, This *IS* The First Doctor.
Hopefully the Disney+ influence/effect will inspire a whole new
audience to investigate/download Classic Who and Reboot Who.
Have you seen the last 4 episodes on TV, Dannyboy?
On 29.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <GXi8Qv2qczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 28.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Hopefully the Disney+ influence/effect will inspire a whole new
audience to investigate/download Classic Who and Reboot Who.
Hopefully, Disney+ influence will not mess up the feel of the
series.
Ever saw the Disney version of HHGTTG?
I don't think so.
I'm pretty sure what I saw on TV was a UK production. With Sherlock's
Watson as Arthur Dent. :)
Asking google though, it seems that was the disney production? Hm. I'm confused.
On 28.01.24, The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
I'm just missing the connecting thread between Missy and who you
call Dhawan Master.
Maybe it's just me, but it's been bugging me for a while now. :)
Connections between incarnations of the Master and his
reappearances have always been - sparse.
Maybe I just expect it because I watched the new series first.
(Whatever I might have watched as a little kid didn't stick.)
[...]
We do see Mr Crispy steal the Trakenite body of Tremas in The
Keeper of Traken. However how he escaped from the collapse of
Castrovalva, returned from being abandoned in Earth?s ancient past
without a TARDIS in Time-Flight, from being miniaturised and burned
to ashes in Planet of Fire, from being turned feline and abandoned
on the disintegrating planet of the Cheetah People in Survival,
are unexplained.
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
In article <up5jqo$3u90o$1@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 27.01.24, The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 27.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
In the 'earlier age', the Time Lord Council had given The
Master a new sequence of 12 regenerations.
So the 13th's Master was just another one in the new
sequence!!
Earlier age as in classic, or something in the new series? I
don't remember the Master getting a new sequence of
regenerations after Missy.
I'm currently (partly re-)watching Classics. There was old
withered Master who stole Nissan's father's body with the
power of the Keeper of Traken, at the end of his 12 regen
cycle. Maybe that gave him a new set of 12 regenerations.
Ok cycle 1 - a sequence of Masters including the classic Roger
Delgado Master up to the Crispy Master of The Deadly Assassin
and The Keeper of Traken.
I got to that bit the other day, and wondered what I'd forgotten
about where the Master before Crispy ended up. (I got a bit fed
up with too much Master during the 3rd Doctor, maybe I didn't pay
enough attention.)
The body thief: the Ainley Master. The executed Master, the
Deathworm and Eric Roberts Master from the Movie. Lost in the
Vortex.
I'm currently re-watching early 5th Doctor, so somewhere in the
middle of that. :)
Cycle 2. Resurrected from the Matrix to fight in the Time War,
the Time Lord Jacobi Master evaded his superiors by using a
Chameleon Arch to run away
I have not watched that third bit yet, then. Thanks!
to the end of the Universe disguised as the human child who
would become Professor Yana. That could have been his first new
incarnation, but even if it was his second or third, the Simm
Master followed by Missy and the Dhawan Master is still only
halfway through this cycle.
I'm just missing the connecting thread between Missy and who you
call Dhawan Master.
Maybe it's just me, but it's been bugging me for a while now. :)
Connections between incarnations of the Master and his
reappearances have always been - sparse.
Delgado was in Frontier in Space and the next Master we saw was Mr
Crispy in The Deadly Assassin. Despite the Master being a Time
Lord, a simple regeneration explanation (and less grisly Master)
wasn’t used.
(In real life, Delgado had died in a car crash in 1973 so his
planned next appearance in a serial called “The Final Gameâ€
never happened.)
We do see Mr Crispy steal the Trakenite body of Tremas in The
Keeper of Traken. However how he escaped from the collapse of
Castrovalva, returned from being abandoned in Earth’s ancient
past without a TARDIS in Time-Flight, from being miniaturised and
burned to ashes in Planet of Fire, from being turned feline and
abandoned on the disintegrating planet of the Cheetah People in
Survival, are unexplained.
As his ability to regenerate from exterminated remains into an
alien worm which then takes over a human body.
And to be resurrected from his own signet ring, with the same
appearance give or take moments of skeletal burnout and a bad
blonde dye job.
And to return from being trapped in the Time Lords’ pocket
dimension with Gallifrey as Missy.
So appearing as “O†without justification after yet another
certain death is just - well, par for the course.
So the biregenrations are established.
In article <up5ap7$3s3ll$2@dont-email.me>, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
The Doctor wrote on 28/1/24 1:17 am:
In article <up2lt8$3bf84$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65The clown fails to read/understand what he is replying to .... but
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 6:37 pm:
Hi. :)Va gur 'rneyvre ntr', gur Gvzr Ybeq Pbhapvy unq tvira Gur
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th
Doctor come from?
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage
spoilers here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was that Zvffl fubg
Fnkkba, naq Fnkkba fubg Zvffl jvgu fbzrguvat gung jnf
fhccbfrq gb cerirag ertrarengvba?
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an
earlier age, like Classic times when he was big on shrinking
people and occasionally messing with the Matrix. But that
still lacks a specific point.
Any ideas?
Znfgre n arj frdhrapr bs 12 ertrarengvbaf.
Fb gur 13gu'f Znfgre jnf whfg nabgure bar va gur arj
frdhrapr!!
(That was fun!! ;-) ... well, except for my Spell-Checker!)
Rot13 Dannyboy?
replies in any case!!
Still, it increases the clowns Precious Post Count!!
Does not look German to me , Dannyboy!!
In article <up5b73$3sb2p$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
The Doctor wrote on 28/1/24 11:42 am:
In article <GXe7t4paczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 27.01.24, The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
<Snip>
The Master always returns from certain doom. Often with no
explanation whatsoever. Occam?s razor says, Dhawan is a
later Master. Otherwise, we?re going to be shoehorning future
Masters into past timelines from here to Eternity in the
show.
Hm, anything's possible, even a "once only" of this. :)
Because future Masters and Mistresses are coming. 100%.
Oh, definitely! :)
Now whose was the hand with the red fingernails who picked up
the gold tooth that the Toymaker had said was the Master's
prison (and how did the Master get into the tooth)?
MAybe the result of biregeneration.
SORRY!! WHAT!! YOU, clown, think The Master got caught up in the
'biregeneration', clown??
REALLY!! And YOU'VE actually SEEN the episodes .... or have YOU,
clown??
Have you seen the last 4 episodes yet, Dannyboy?
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
Daniel65 wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on the
iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK. Most people
using a computer connected to the internet would have a VPN these
days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap enough to use.
Blueshirt wrote on 29/1/24 10:51 pm:
Daniel65 wrote:Never used one, myself. :-) Might have to make inquiries!!
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on the
iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK. Most people
using a computer connected to the internet would have a VPN these
days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap enough to use.
The Doctor wrote on 29/1/24 12:32 am:
In article <up5ag8$3s3ll$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 28/1/24 6:12 am:
On 27.01.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Cycle 2. Resurrected from the Matrix to fight in the Time
War, the Time Lord Jacobi Master evaded his superiors by
using a Chameleon Arch to run away to the end of the
Universe disguised as the human child who would become
Professor Yana. That could have been his first new
incarnation, but even if it was his second or third, the
Simm Master followed by Missy and the Dhawan Master is
still only halfway through this cycle.
The Timeless Child does not exist in Doctor Who!
Yes it does. It was a part of the 13th Doctor's era of the
show, whether you like it or not.
Yeah, but it was just Master messing with the Matrix again.
Even the Toymaker called our first Doctor the first Doctor.
For Disney+ purposes, This *IS* The First Doctor.
Hopefully the Disney+ influence/effect will inspire a whole new
audience to investigate/download Classic Who and Reboot Who.
Have you seen the last 4 episodes on TV, Dannyboy?
What do YOU, clown, think??
--
Daniel
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 4:16 pm:
On 29.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:Adding the BBC TV to the end of your Search phrase might help, e.g. >"hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy bbc tv" worked for DuckDuckGo.
In article <GXi8Qv2qczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 28.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Hopefully the Disney+ influence/effect will inspire a whole new
audience to investigate/download Classic Who and Reboot Who.
Hopefully, Disney+ influence will not mess up the feel of the
series.
Ever saw the Disney version of HHGTTG?
I don't think so.
I'm pretty sure what I saw on TV was a UK production. With Sherlock's
Watson as Arthur Dent. :)
Asking google though, it seems that was the disney production? Hm. I'm
confused.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy_%28TV_series%29
--
Daniel
The Doctor wrote on 29/1/24 12:32 am:
In article <up5ap7$3s3ll$2@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
The Doctor wrote on 28/1/24 1:17 am:
In article <up2lt8$3bf84$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65The clown fails to read/understand what he is replying to .... but
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 27/1/24 6:37 pm:
Hi. :)Va gur 'rneyvre ntr', gur Gvzr Ybeq Pbhapvy unq tvira Gur
I keep wondering, where did the Master who bugged the 13th
Doctor come from?
Should the following be spoiler protected? How do you manage
spoilers here? Just in case, Rot-13.
Last we saw of the Master before that was that Zvffl fubg
Fnkkba, naq Fnkkba fubg Zvffl jvgu fbzrguvat gung jnf
fhccbfrq gb cerirag ertrarengvba?
So where did 13th's Master come from?
I vaguely remember reading some theory that he's from an
earlier age, like Classic times when he was big on shrinking
people and occasionally messing with the Matrix. But that
still lacks a specific point.
Any ideas?
Znfgre n arj frdhrapr bs 12 ertrarengvbaf.
Fb gur 13gu'f Znfgre jnf whfg nabgure bar va gur arj
frdhrapr!!
(That was fun!! ;-) ... well, except for my Spell-Checker!)
Rot13 Dannyboy?
replies in any case!!
Still, it increases the clowns Precious Post Count!!
<Snip>
Does not look German to me , Dannyboy!!
Oh!! Well, now that the master linguist .... Who can't even MASTER
English, his 'mother-tongue' .... has typed such an informative
response, I'm sure WE will all rest easy!!
--
Daniel
The Doctor wrote on 29/1/24 12:34 am:
In article <up5b73$3sb2p$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
The Doctor wrote on 28/1/24 11:42 am:
In article <GXe7t4paczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
On 27.01.24, The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
<Snip>
The Master always returns from certain doom. Often with no
explanation whatsoever. Occam?s razor says, Dhawan is a
later Master. Otherwise, we?re going to be shoehorning future
Masters into past timelines from here to Eternity in the
show.
Hm, anything's possible, even a "once only" of this. :)
Because future Masters and Mistresses are coming. 100%.
Oh, definitely! :)
Now whose was the hand with the red fingernails who picked up
the gold tooth that the Toymaker had said was the Master's
prison (and how did the Master get into the tooth)?
MAybe the result of biregeneration.
SORRY!! WHAT!! YOU, clown, think The Master got caught up in the
'biregeneration', clown??
REALLY!! And YOU'VE actually SEEN the episodes .... or have YOU,
clown??
Failure to answer Questions asked, noted!!
<Snip>
Have you seen the last 4 episodes yet, Dannyboy?
No, I haven't, clown .... but I think I know more about those four
episodes than YOU do, clown!!
--
Daniel
Blueshirt wrote on 29/1/24 10:51 pm:
Daniel65 wrote:Never used one, myself. :-) Might have to make inquiries!!
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on the
iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK. Most people
using a computer connected to the internet would have a VPN these
days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap enough to use.
--
Daniel
Daniel65 wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on the
iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK. Most people
using a computer connected to the internet would have a VPN these
days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap enough to use.
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Blueshirt wrote on 29/1/24 10:51 pm:
Daniel65 wrote:Never used one, myself. :-) Might have to make inquiries!!
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on the
iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK. Most people
using a computer connected to the internet would have a VPN these
days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap enough to use.
This would of course enable you to watch ALL Doctor Who including the new >episodes, which are on iPlayer. You will need a BBC account and to tell a >little white lie as well though (the iPlayer occasionally asks you to
confirm that you have a TV licence. Perhaps you should buy a dog and call
it TV … then your dog licence would be TV’s licence.)
--
“The timelines and … canon … are rupturing” - the Doctor
Blueshirt wrote on 29/1/24 10:51 pm:
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who episodes are available on
the BBC iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK.
Most people using a computer connected to the internet would have
a VPN these days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap
enough to use.
Never used one, myself. :-) Might have to make inquiries!!
Daniel65 wrote:
Blueshirt wrote on 29/1/24 10:51 pm:
Never used one, myself. :-) Might have to make inquiries!!
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who episodes are available on
the BBC iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK.
Most people using a computer connected to the internet would have
a VPN these days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap
enough to use.
You should. For the cost of a VPN, even if if was only for one year,
you would have access to every [surviving] broadcast episode of
Doctor Who, via the BBC iPlayer.
Nord VPN, Express VPN and Surfshark are three of the bigger names and
they are usually always offering some sort of 'deals'...
https://www.expressvpn.com/go/vpn-server/australia-vpn?category=VPN&subcategory=vpnexact&lang=en&gad_source=1BwE&gad_source=1
... and to tell a little white lie as well though (the iPlayer
occasionally asks you to confirm that you have a TV licence.
Perhaps you should buy a dog and call it TV … then your dog licence
would be TV’s licence.)
In article <up88q2$fjkm$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
This would of course enable you to watch ALL Doctor Who including
the new episodes, which are on iPlayer. You will need a BBC
account and to tell a little white lie as well though (the
iPlayer occasionally asks you to confirm that you have a TV
licence. Perhaps you should buy a dog and call it TV … then your
dog licence would be TV’s licence.)
Or pay for license access!
In article <up85np$f3nb$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Blueshirt wrote on 29/1/24 10:51 pm:
Never used one, myself. :-) Might have to make inquiries!!
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on the
iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK. Most people
using a computer connected to the internet would have a VPN these
days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap enough to use.
Check it out!
You need to understand the Disney versino of HHGTTG to understand
what is going on in DW today!
The Last Doctor wrote:
... and to tell a little white lie as well though (the iPlayer
occasionally asks you to confirm that you have a TV licence.
Perhaps you should buy a dog and call it TV … then your dog licence
would be TV’s licence.)
That is something I always find amusing...
I have a BBC account and when I log-in to watch something on the
iPlayer it asks do I have a TV Licence, but all you have to do is
tick the box that says you do and that's it! No further check or
requirement of proof. Are the BBC really that trusting of human nature
or is it that don't care but have to be seen to go through the
motions?
In article <up88q2$fjkm$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Blueshirt wrote on 29/1/24 10:51 pm:
Daniel65 wrote:Never used one, myself. :-) Might have to make inquiries!!
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on the
iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK. Most people
using a computer connected to the internet would have a VPN these
days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap enough to use.
This would of course enable you to watch ALL Doctor Who including the new
episodes, which are on iPlayer. You will need a BBC account and to tell a
little white lie as well though (the iPlayer occasionally asks you to
confirm that you have a TV licence. Perhaps you should buy a dog and call
it TV … then your dog licence would be TV’s licence.)
Or pay for license access!
The Doctor wrote:
In article <up85np$f3nb$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Blueshirt wrote on 29/1/24 10:51 pm:
Never used one, myself. :-) Might have to make inquiries!!
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on the
iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK. Most people
using a computer connected to the internet would have a VPN these
days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap enough to use.
Check it out!
Why don't you offer Daniel a deal for the super duper everything
logged and spied on NetKnow VPN service? You are surely in the hunt
for more customers to keep yourself busy.
The Doctor wrote:
You need to understand the Disney versino of HHGTTG to understand
what is going on in DW today!
But I thought you liked the last episode of Doctor Who? You certainly
gave the Christmas Day episode a good rating...
So what have I missed, what is going on in Doctor Who today Dave?
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <up88q2$fjkm$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Blueshirt wrote on 29/1/24 10:51 pm:
Daniel65 wrote:Never used one, myself. :-) Might have to make inquiries!!
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on the
iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK. Most people
using a computer connected to the internet would have a VPN these
days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap enough to use.
This would of course enable you to watch ALL Doctor Who including the new >>> episodes, which are on iPlayer. You will need a BBC account and to tell a >>> little white lie as well though (the iPlayer occasionally asks you to
confirm that you have a TV licence. Perhaps you should buy a dog and call >>> it TV … then your dog licence would be TV’s licence.)
Or pay for license access!
A UK TV licence is valid at one single UK household Dave. It is IMPOSSIBLE
to legally view BBC content on iPlayer outside the UK. Even UK resident TV >licence holders cannot legally access the iPlayer outside the UK (this is >something the BBC is “working on” and will for sure only be allowed if and >when a BBC account has to be linked to a current valid TV licence, or when >the law on broadcasting changes.
If you are paying /anyone/ for a “UK TV licence” Dave, you are being >defrauded. You CANNOT pay for a licence and have it be valid in Canada. >It’s not allowed even in Ireland.
--
“The timelines and … canon … are rupturing” - the Doctor
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
Or pay for license access!
A UK TV licence is valid at one single UK household Dave. It is
IMPOSSIBLE to legally view BBC content on iPlayer outside the UK.
Even UK resident TV licence holders cannot legally access the
iPlayer outside the UK (this is something the BBC is “working on”
and will for sure only be allowed if and when a BBC account has to
be linked to a current valid TV licence, or when the law on
broadcasting changes.
If you are paying anyone for a “UK TV licence” Dave, you are being defrauded. You CANNOT pay for a licence and have it be valid in
Canada. It’s not allowed even in Ireland.
In article <up8hbc$h1gf$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
Or pay for license access!
A UK TV licence is valid at one single UK household Dave. It is
IMPOSSIBLE to legally view BBC content on iPlayer outside the UK.
Even UK resident TV licence holders cannot legally access the
iPlayer outside the UK (this is something the BBC is “working on”
and will for sure only be allowed if and when a BBC account has
to be linked to a current valid TV licence, or when the law on
broadcasting changes.
If you are paying anyone for a “UK TV licence” Dave, you are being defrauded. You CANNOT pay for a licence and have it be valid in
Canada. It’s not allowed even in Ireland.
Well some people do have work arounds!
In article <nnd$53cabc2c$3779719c@5580787dcc0d873f>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
You need to understand the Disney versino of HHGTTG to understand
what is going on in DW today!
But I thought you liked the last episode of Doctor Who? You
certainly gave the Christmas Day episode a good rating...
So what have I missed, what is going on in Doctor Who today Dave?
So did you ever see Disney's HHGTTG?
In article <nnd$0be5e846$37ef60ab@7b4bdfd0ee45dd18>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
Check it out!
Why don't you offer Daniel a deal for the super duper everything
logged and spied on NetKnow VPN service? You are surely in the
hunt for more customers to keep yourself busy.
Daniel is invited and so are you!
In article <up8hbc$h1gf$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <up88q2$fjkm$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Blueshirt wrote on 29/1/24 10:51 pm:
Daniel65 wrote:Never used one, myself. :-) Might have to make inquiries!!
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to >>>>>>>> Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on the
iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK. Most people
using a computer connected to the internet would have a VPN these
days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap enough to use.
This would of course enable you to watch ALL Doctor Who including the new >>>> episodes, which are on iPlayer. You will need a BBC account and to tell a >>>> little white lie as well though (the iPlayer occasionally asks you to
confirm that you have a TV licence. Perhaps you should buy a dog and call >>>> it TV … then your dog licence would be TV’s licence.)
Or pay for license access!
A UK TV licence is valid at one single UK household Dave. It is IMPOSSIBLE >> to legally view BBC content on iPlayer outside the UK. Even UK resident TV >> licence holders cannot legally access the iPlayer outside the UK (this is
something the BBC is “working on” and will for sure only be allowed if and
when a BBC account has to be linked to a current valid TV licence, or when >> the law on broadcasting changes.
If you are paying /anyone/ for a “UK TV licence” Dave, you are being
defrauded. You CANNOT pay for a licence and have it be valid in Canada.
It’s not allowed even in Ireland.
Well some people do have work arounds!
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 4:16 pm:
On 29.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
Adding the BBC TV to the end of your Search phrase might help, e.g. "hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy bbc tv" worked for DuckDuckGo.Ever saw the Disney version of HHGTTG?
I don't think so.
I'm pretty sure what I saw on TV was a UK production. With
Sherlock's Watson as Arthur Dent. :)
Asking google though, it seems that was the disney production? Hm.
I'm confused.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy_%2 8TV_series%29 --
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
Well some people do have work arounds!
Yes Dave. But they’re all illegal. None of us mind that you know -
it’s just your mendacious attempts to deny that you’re breaking
laws to watch Doctor Who that concern us.
Your lies are just so frustrating.
The Last Doctor wrote:
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
Or pay for license access!
A UK TV licence is valid at one single UK household Dave. It is
IMPOSSIBLE to legally view BBC content on iPlayer outside the UK.
Even UK resident TV licence holders cannot legally access the
iPlayer outside the UK (this is something the BBC is “working on”
and will for sure only be allowed if and when a BBC account has to
be linked to a current valid TV licence, or when the law on
broadcasting changes.
If you are paying anyone for a “UK TV licence” Dave, you are being
defrauded. You CANNOT pay for a licence and have it be valid in
Canada. It’s not allowed even in Ireland.
Yes, you can only buy a UK TV licence within the United Kingdom. Dave
is not accessing BBC1 in Canada legally, despite what he's been told.
(Unless there is some ancient broadcasting rule relating to third
party BBC re-sellers in the Edmonton area!)
Ireland does get BBC channels legitimately because of ancient reasons
and old broadcasting deals that will expire one day. Probably when
everything is streamed over the internet or there's a satellite
system where broadcasters will be able to know the exact location of >everybody.
As Irish Sky/Virgin Media media boxes officially carry the BBC
channels I assume they pay something to the BBC for this right and it
is factored in to their subscription prices. The channels are not
available free. However it is the Northern Ireland versions of those
BBC channels we get, so there are some regional programming
differences... fortunately "Doctor Who" and "Match of the Day" are
not affected by the goings on in Belfast and Derry.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <up8hbc$h1gf$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
Or pay for license access!
A UK TV licence is valid at one single UK household Dave. It is
IMPOSSIBLE to legally view BBC content on iPlayer outside the UK.
Even UK resident TV licence holders cannot legally access the
iPlayer outside the UK (this is something the BBC is “working on”
and will for sure only be allowed if and when a BBC account has
to be linked to a current valid TV licence, or when the law on
broadcasting changes.
If you are paying anyone for a “UK TV licence” Dave, you are being
defrauded. You CANNOT pay for a licence and have it be valid in
Canada. It’s not allowed even in Ireland.
Well some people do have work arounds!
If you use a VPN to access the BBC iPlayer in Canada, say so. Speak
in a language we can all understand. This "pay for licence access"
stuff is what we can't understand!
The Doctor wrote:
In article <nnd$0be5e846$37ef60ab@7b4bdfd0ee45dd18>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
Check it out!
Why don't you offer Daniel a deal for the super duper everything
logged and spied on NetKnow VPN service? You are surely in the
hunt for more customers to keep yourself busy.
Daniel is invited and so are you!
Are you cheaper than Nord VPN?
Do you have a verified no-logs policy?
Do you have a tracker and ad blocker built in?
Do we get free HNIC on Saturday Night's?
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <up8hbc$h1gf$1@dont-email.me>,allowed if and
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <up88q2$fjkm$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Blueshirt wrote on 29/1/24 10:51 pm:
Daniel65 wrote:Never used one, myself. :-) Might have to make inquiries!!
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to >>>>>>>>> Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on the
iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK. Most people >>>>>>> using a computer connected to the internet would have a VPN these >>>>>>> days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap enough to use.
This would of course enable you to watch ALL Doctor Who including the new >>>>> episodes, which are on iPlayer. You will need a BBC account and to tell a >>>>> little white lie as well though (the iPlayer occasionally asks you to >>>>> confirm that you have a TV licence. Perhaps you should buy a dog and call >>>>> it TV … then your dog licence would be TV’s licence.)
Or pay for license access!
A UK TV licence is valid at one single UK household Dave. It is IMPOSSIBLE >>> to legally view BBC content on iPlayer outside the UK. Even UK resident TV >>> licence holders cannot legally access the iPlayer outside the UK (this is >>> something the BBC is “working on” and will for sure only be
when a BBC account has to be linked to a current valid TV licence, or when >>> the law on broadcasting changes.
If you are paying /anyone/ for a “UK TV licence” Dave, you are being >>> defrauded. You CANNOT pay for a licence and have it be valid in Canada.
It’s not allowed even in Ireland.
Well some people do have work arounds!
Yes Dave. But they’re all illegal. None of us mind that you know - it’s >just your mendacious attempts to deny that you’re breaking laws to watch >Doctor Who that concern us.
Your lies are just so frustrating.
--
“The timelines and … canon … are rupturing” - the Doctor
On 29.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 4:16 pm:
On 29.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
Adding the BBC TV to the end of your Search phrase might help, e.g.Ever saw the Disney version of HHGTTG?
I don't think so.
I'm pretty sure what I saw on TV was a UK production. With
Sherlock's Watson as Arthur Dent. :)
Asking google though, it seems that was the disney production? Hm.
I'm confused.
"hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy bbc tv" worked for DuckDuckGo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy_%2
8TV_series%29 --
That doesn't mention Disney.
--
Mickmane
The Last Doctor wrote:
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
Well some people do have work arounds!
Yes Dave. But they’re all illegal. None of us mind that you know -
it’s just your mendacious attempts to deny that you’re breaking
laws to watch Doctor Who that concern us.
I have it on good authority that the Eleventh Commandment, that Moses
could not fit on to the tablet, just so happened to be "Thou shalt
not illegally watch BBC TV shows".
Dave got lucky there!
Your lies are just so frustrating.
Now, now, we all know our David doesn't tell lies. Didn't he tell us
that himself? So as he is a righteous Christian that must be the
case. We are nothing but doubting Thomases to question him.
You are in the South not the North!
In article <up937q$k627$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
Well some people do have work arounds!
Yes Dave. But they’re all illegal. None of us mind that you know
- it’s just your mendacious attempts to deny that you’re breaking
laws to watch Doctor Who that concern us.
Your lies are just so frustrating.
So are you going top find every IPTV operator in the UK?
The Doctor wrote:
You are in the South not the North!
One island, one nation... as nature intended.
Dirty rotten scoundrels mights like to try to take some of our green
fields away from us, but storms will blow, trees will fall and nature
will win out in the end.
As she always does!
The Doctor wrote:
In article <up937q$k627$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
Well some people do have work arounds!
Yes Dave. But they’re all illegal. None of us mind that you know
- it’s just your mendacious attempts to deny that you’re breaking
laws to watch Doctor Who that concern us.
Your lies are just so frustrating.
So are you going top find every IPTV operator in the UK?
Nobody cares that you use an IPTV service. I have IPTV channels on my
laptop (through Kodi)... and I can access the iPlayer with a VPN
should I need to catch up on BBC stuff. Just don't pretend it's all
above board and you are an honest viewer of BBC1 in Canada. As I
don't think the BBC approve of IPTV re-distribution of their services
to foreign audiences.
We will call you "Yellow Beard Yadallee" from now on... Ahoy, me
hearty, you Scourge of the Seven Seas! Hoist the Jolly Roger and off
we sail... ooo aaarghhh.
On 29.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 4:16 pm:
On 29.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
Adding the BBC TV to the end of your Search phrase might help, e.g.Ever saw the Disney version of HHGTTG?
I don't think so.
I'm pretty sure what I saw on TV was a UK production. With
Sherlock's Watson as Arthur Dent. :)
Asking google though, it seems that was the disney production? Hm.
I'm confused.
"hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy bbc tv" worked for DuckDuckGo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy_%2
8TV_series%29 --
That doesn't mention Disney.
In article <up7n27$ckt6$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
The Doctor wrote on 29/1/24 12:36 am:
In article <up5jqo$3u90o$1@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor
<mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Oh??So appearing as “O†without justification after yet
another certain death is just - well, par for the course.
So the biregenrations are established.
Yes! Let me guess, you did not see the December 2023 episodes of
Doctor Who!
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <up8hbc$h1gf$1@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor
<mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
If you are paying /anyone/ for a “UK TV licence” Dave, you are
being defrauded. You CANNOT pay for a licence and have it be
valid in Canada. It’s not allowed even in Ireland.
Well some people do have work arounds!
Yes Dave. But they’re all illegal. None of us mind that you know -
it’s just your mendacious attempts to deny that you’re breaking laws
to watch Doctor Who that concern us.
Your lies are just so frustrating.
On 29.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
Why? Do they differ?
In article <up8hbc$h1gf$1@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor
<mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <up88q2$fjkm$1@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor
<mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Blueshirt wrote on 29/1/24 10:51 pm:
Daniel65 wrote:Never used one, myself. :-) Might have to make inquiries!!
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago.
(And up to Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on
the iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK.
Most people using a computer connected to the internet
would have a VPN these days anyway, so they are easy
enough, and cheap enough to use.
This would of course enable you to watch ALL Doctor Who
including the new episodes, which are on iPlayer. You will need
a BBC account and to tell a little white lie as well though
(the iPlayer occasionally asks you to confirm that you have a
TV licence. Perhaps you should buy a dog and call it TV …
then your dog licence would be TV’s licence.)
Or pay for license access!
A UK TV licence is valid at one single UK household Dave. It is
IMPOSSIBLE to legally view BBC content on iPlayer outside the UK.
Even UK resident TV licence holders cannot legally access the
iPlayer outside the UK (this is something the BBC is “working
on†and will for sure only be allowed if and when a BBC account
has to be linked to a current valid TV licence, or when the law on
broadcasting changes.
If you are paying /anyone/ for a “UK TV licence†Dave, you are >> being defrauded. You CANNOT pay for a licence and have it be valid
in Canada. It’s not allowed even in Ireland.
Well some people do have work arounds!
In article <xn0ohegzf3vl7wg000@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Daniel65 wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on the
iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK. Most people
using a computer connected to the internet would have a VPN these
days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap enough to use.
OR get Britbox!
Mickmane wrote on 30/1/24 7:44 am:
On 29.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 4:16 pm:
On 29.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
Correct .... because my Search phrase included 'bbc tv'.Adding the BBC TV to the end of your Search phrase might help, e.g.Ever saw the Disney version of HHGTTG?
I don't think so.
I'm pretty sure what I saw on TV was a UK production. With
Sherlock's Watson as Arthur Dent. :)
Asking google though, it seems that was the disney production? Hm.
I'm confused.
"hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy bbc tv" worked for DuckDuckGo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy_
%2 8TV_series%29 --
That doesn't mention Disney.
The Doctor wrote on 30/1/24 1:12 am:
In article <xn0ohegzf3vl7wg000@news.eternal-september.org>,One (or more) of our Commercial TV networks offers Britbox for free.
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Daniel65 wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on the
iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK. Most people
using a computer connected to the internet would have a VPN these
days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap enough to use.
OR get Britbox!
Might this be a (legal) way around things??
In article <nnd$1b0f5b8e$3f00fb0d@7722d8288856eb13>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
We will call you "Yellow Beard Yadallee" from now on... Ahoy, me
hearty, you Scourge of the Seven Seas! Hoist the Jolly Roger and
off we sail... ooo aaarghhh.
And I call you yellow bearded Blue Shirt!
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Britbox content differs in different markets, just as Netflix
Disney and Amazon do. It’s possible that Classic Who is not
available in Aus BritBox.
And apparently it used to be there, but was removed on 31 March
2023. Sounds like the BBC and Disney are gearing up to put the
whole back catalogue on Disney+ when they can get their ducks in a
row …
The Doctor wrote on 30/1/24 1:12 am:
OR get Britbox!
One (or more) of our Commercial TV networks offers Britbox for
free. Might this be a (legal) way around things??
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
The Doctor wrote on 30/1/24 1:12 am:
In article <xn0ohegzf3vl7wg000@news.eternal-september.org>,One (or more) of our Commercial TV networks offers Britbox for free.
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Daniel65 wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on the
iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK. Most people
using a computer connected to the internet would have a VPN these
days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap enough to use.
OR get Britbox!
Might this be a (legal) way around things??
Britbox content differs in different markets, just as Netflix Disney and Amazon do. It’s possible that Classic Who is not available in Aus BritBox.
The Last Doctor wrote:
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Britbox content differs in different markets, just as Netflix
Disney and Amazon do. It’s possible that Classic Who is not
available in Aus BritBox.
And apparently it used to be there, but was removed on 31 March
2023. Sounds like the BBC and Disney are gearing up to put the
whole back catalogue on Disney+ when they can get their ducks in a
row …
I didn't know that, as they were definitely on BritBox last year. But licences do change so that makes perfect sense.
In article <nnd$4027fb90$31adce08@e3c44ff076748e57>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
You are in the South not the North!
One island, one nation... as nature intended.
Dirty rotten scoundrels mights like to try to take some of our
green fields away from us, but storms will blow, trees will fall
and nature will win out in the end.
As she always does!
About accessing NI resources!!
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
I didn't know that, as they were definitely on BritBox last year.
But licences do change so that makes perfect sense.
In Australia.
ITV did a very long term licensing deal with the BBC so it’s still
on British BritBox, so uniquely in the world we have all of Classic
Who available on three streaming services: one which comes “free”
with the TV licence, the now utterly pointless UK BritBox stand
alone service, and for the same price as BritBox, as part of ITVX’s
premium paid tier which includes all BritBox content as well as
excising 75% plus of advertising (unless you use the service to
watch live).
The Doctor wrote:
In article <up8hbc$h1gf$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
Or pay for license access!
A UK TV licence is valid at one single UK household Dave. It is
IMPOSSIBLE to legally view BBC content on iPlayer outside the UK.
Even UK resident TV licence holders cannot legally access the
iPlayer outside the UK (this is something the BBC is “working on”
and will for sure only be allowed if and when a BBC account has
to be linked to a current valid TV licence, or when the law on
broadcasting changes.
If you are paying anyone for a “UK TV licence” Dave, you are being
defrauded. You CANNOT pay for a licence and have it be valid in
Canada. It’s not allowed even in Ireland.
Well some people do have work arounds!
If you use a VPN to access the BBC iPlayer in Canada, say so. Speak
in a language we can all understand. This "pay for licence access"
stuff is what we can't understand!
Mickmane wrote on 30/1/24 7:44 am:
On 29.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:Correct .... because my Search phrase included 'bbc tv'.
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 4:16 pm:
On 29.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
Adding the BBC TV to the end of your Search phrase might help, e.g.Ever saw the Disney version of HHGTTG?
I don't think so.
I'm pretty sure what I saw on TV was a UK production. With
Sherlock's Watson as Arthur Dent. :)
Asking google though, it seems that was the disney production? Hm.
I'm confused.
"hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy bbc tv" worked for DuckDuckGo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy_%2
8TV_series%29 --
That doesn't mention Disney.
--
Daniel
The Doctor wrote on 30/1/24 2:55 am:
In article <up8hbc$h1gf$1@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor
<mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <up88q2$fjkm$1@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor
<mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Blueshirt wrote on 29/1/24 10:51 pm:
Daniel65 wrote:Never used one, myself. :-) Might have to make inquiries!!
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago.
(And up to Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on
the iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK.
Most people using a computer connected to the internet
would have a VPN these days anyway, so they are easy
enough, and cheap enough to use.
This would of course enable you to watch ALL Doctor Who
including the new episodes, which are on iPlayer. You will need
a BBC account and to tell a little white lie as well though
(the iPlayer occasionally asks you to confirm that you have a
TV licence. Perhaps you should buy a dog and call it TV …
then your dog licence would be TV’s licence.)
Or pay for license access!
A UK TV licence is valid at one single UK household Dave. It is
IMPOSSIBLE to legally view BBC content on iPlayer outside the UK.
Even UK resident TV licence holders cannot legally access the
iPlayer outside the UK (this is something the BBC is “working
on†and will for sure only be allowed if and when a BBC account
has to be linked to a current valid TV licence, or when the law on
broadcasting changes.
If you are paying /anyone/ for a “UK TV licence†Dave, you are >>> being defrauded. You CANNOT pay for a licence and have it be valid
in Canada. It’s not allowed even in Ireland.
Well some people do have work arounds!
Your use, clown, of the term "work arounds" almost implies that YOU,
clown, KNOW what YOU, clown, are doing *IS* illegal, clown!!
--
Daniel
The Doctor wrote on 30/1/24 1:12 am:
In article <xn0ohegzf3vl7wg000@news.eternal-september.org>,One (or more) of our Commercial TV networks offers Britbox for free.
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Daniel65 wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on the
iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK. Most people
using a computer connected to the internet would have a VPN these
days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap enough to use.
OR get Britbox!
Might this be a (legal) way around things??
--
Daniel
On 30.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 30/1/24 7:44 am:
On 29.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 4:16 pm:
On 29.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
Correct .... because my Search phrase included 'bbc tv'.Adding the BBC TV to the end of your Search phrase might help, e.g.Ever saw the Disney version of HHGTTG?
I don't think so.
I'm pretty sure what I saw on TV was a UK production. With
Sherlock's Watson as Arthur Dent. :)
Asking google though, it seems that was the disney production? Hm.
I'm confused.
"hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy bbc tv" worked for DuckDuckGo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy_
%2 8TV_series%29 --
That doesn't mention Disney.
The question was whether I'd ever seen the Disney version of HHGttG.
--
Mickmane
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
The Doctor wrote on 30/1/24 1:12 am:
In article <xn0ohegzf3vl7wg000@news.eternal-september.org>,One (or more) of our Commercial TV networks offers Britbox for free.
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Daniel65 wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on the
iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK. Most people
using a computer connected to the internet would have a VPN these
days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap enough to use.
OR get Britbox!
Might this be a (legal) way around things??
Britbox content differs in different markets, just as Netflix Disney and >Amazon do. It’s possible that Classic Who is not available in Aus BritBox.
--
“The timelines and … canon … are rupturing” - the Doctor
The Doctor wrote:
In article <nnd$1b0f5b8e$3f00fb0d@7722d8288856eb13>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
We will call you "Yellow Beard Yadallee" from now on... Ahoy, me
hearty, you Scourge of the Seven Seas! Hoist the Jolly Roger and
off we sail... ooo aaarghhh.
And I call you yellow bearded Blue Shirt!
Shiver me timbers... it's Captain Blue Beard to you Scallywag!
Oooo aaarghhh...
Daniel65 wrote:
The Doctor wrote on 30/1/24 1:12 am:
One (or more) of our Commercial TV networks offers Britbox for
OR get Britbox!
free. Might this be a (legal) way around things??
BritBox is a perfectly legal streaming service, and if you can
subscribe to it where you are then it would allow you access to the
classic era episodes of Doctor Who...
You would not get the latest Doctor Who episodes on it though, as
they are exclusively streamed on Disney+ outside of the UK & Ireland,
as you know.
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
The Doctor wrote on 30/1/24 1:12 am:
In article <xn0ohegzf3vl7wg000@news.eternal-september.org>,One (or more) of our Commercial TV networks offers Britbox for free.
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Daniel65 wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
Ah, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
FWIW, all of the classic era Doctor Who is available on the
iPlayer... you would just need a VPN, set to the UK. Most people
using a computer connected to the internet would have a VPN these
days anyway, so they are easy enough, and cheap enough to use.
OR get Britbox!
Might this be a (legal) way around things??
Britbox content differs in different markets, just as Netflix Disney and
Amazon do. It’s possible that Classic Who is not available in Aus BritBox. >>
And apparently it used to be there, but was removed on 31 March 2023.
Sounds like the BBC and Disney are gearing up to put the whole back
catalogue on Disney+ when they can get their ducks in a row …
--
“The timelines and … canon … are rupturing” - the Doctor
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Last Doctor wrote:
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Britbox content differs in different markets, just as Netflix
Disney and Amazon do. It’s possible that Classic Who is not
available in Aus BritBox.
And apparently it used to be there, but was removed on 31 March
2023. Sounds like the BBC and Disney are gearing up to put the
whole back catalogue on Disney+ when they can get their ducks in a
row …
I didn't know that, as they were definitely on BritBox last year. But
licences do change so that makes perfect sense.
In Australia.
ITV did a very long term licensing deal with the BBC so it’s still on >British BritBox, so uniquely in the world we have all of Classic Who >available on /three/ streaming services: one which comes “free” with the TV
licence, the now utterly pointless UK BritBox stand alone service, and for >the same price as BritBox, as part of ITVX’s premium paid tier which >includes all BritBox content as well as excising 75% plus of advertising >(unless you use the service to watch live).
Which is why increasingly, ITV and Channel 4 content is “sponsored”. >Premium tiers still have to watch those commercial inserts at every break >point (“sorry mate, that’s not advertising, that’s sponsorship. We can’t
remove that, can we now?”)
--
“The timelines and … canon … are rupturing” - the Doctor
The Last Doctor wrote:
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
I didn't know that, as they were definitely on BritBox last year.
But licences do change so that makes perfect sense.
In Australia.
ITV did a very long term licensing deal with the BBC so it’s still
on British BritBox, so uniquely in the world we have all of Classic
Who available on three streaming services: one which comes “free”
with the TV licence, the now utterly pointless UK BritBox stand
alone service, and for the same price as BritBox, as part of ITVX’s
premium paid tier which includes all BritBox content as well as
excising 75% plus of advertising (unless you use the service to
watch live).
The best option for Daniel in Australia is a VPN... every [surviving]
Doctor Who episode is on the iPlayer, plus extras like the SJA's, "K9
& Co", colourised Dalek story, and all of the latest
behind-the-scenes "Doctor Who: Unleashed" programmes (etc.)
Messing around with different streaming services doesn't make a lot
of sense if you just want to watch old and new episodes of Doctor
Who. Get a VPN and get them on the iPlayer while you can...
Mickmane wrote on 30/1/24 7:57 am:
On 29.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
You typed "now watching all of Classic". I'm just wanting to know HOWAh, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
Why? Do they differ?
you get it.
On 30.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 30/1/24 7:57 am:
On 29.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 6:15 am:
You typed "now watching all of Classic". I'm just wanting to know HOWAh, I remember watching some of that some time ago. (And up to
Castrovalva, now watching all of Classic.)
Where are you watching 'Classic Who' from?? 'Live
TV'/Downloads/DVDs??
Why? Do they differ?
you get it.
And I wonder why. Do the different ways to get it differ?
(With seeing the rest of the thread, I wonder whether I should insert
'legal' there. Don't want to know about any other ways.)
--
Mickmane
In article <nnd$48a8f232$1c241fee@997d354a61880203>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
You would not get the latest Doctor Who episodes on it though, as
they are exclusively streamed on Disney+ outside of the UK &
Ireland, as you know.
And give the WWE / Netflix deal ...
In article <nnd$4783b3de$3b9e0ccb@8989a0205d086df2>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:)
Messing around with different streaming services doesn't make a
lot of sense if you just want to watch old and new episodes of
Doctor Who. Get a VPN and get them on the iPlayer while you can...
Key word: While!
In article <nnd$0bb8daf9$65cbe451@8989a0205d086df2>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
About accessing NI resources!!
But the key words for us in regards to the BBC is "legally
accessing".
Due to agreement.
How is RTE these days?
The Doctor wrote:
In article <nnd$48a8f232$1c241fee@997d354a61880203>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
You would not get the latest Doctor Who episodes on it though, as
they are exclusively streamed on Disney+ outside of the UK &
Ireland, as you know.
And give the WWE / Netflix deal ...
Well, I can't comment about the WWE deal as I don't follow wrestling,
but streaming platforms are the one's with all the $$ these days so
that's definitely the way entertainment is going. The streaming
services will gobble up all of the main licences and terrestrial
television will be left with revived games shows, reality TV and the
nine o'clock news!
The Doctor wrote:
In article <nnd$0bb8daf9$65cbe451@8989a0205d086df2>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
About accessing NI resources!!
But the key words for us in regards to the BBC is "legally
accessing".
Due to agreement.
And the fact you can't put a physical border in the sky to stop
transmissions [as was] or satellite footprints from over-spilling
their signal outside of the UK due to the winding nature of an
illogical routed man-made "international border".
How is RTE these days?
S*t. It's just an advert ridden version of the BBC, game >shows/cookery/reality TV with one or two decent drama programmes
thrown in to the mix every now and then ... plus the Rugby of course.
On 30.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 30/1/24 7:44 am:
On 29.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 4:16 pm:
On 29.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
Correct .... because my Search phrase included 'bbc tv'.Adding the BBC TV to the end of your Search phrase might help, e.g.Ever saw the Disney version of HHGTTG?
I don't think so.
I'm pretty sure what I saw on TV was a UK production. With
Sherlock's Watson as Arthur Dent. :)
Asking google though, it seems that was the disney production? Hm.
I'm confused.
"hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy bbc tv" worked for DuckDuckGo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy_
%2 8TV_series%29 --
That doesn't mention Disney.
The question was whether I'd ever seen the Disney version of HHGttG.
In article <upai9b$un8r$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
The Doctor wrote on 30/1/24 2:55 am:
In article <up8hbc$h1gf$1@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor
<mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
A UK TV licence is valid at one single UK household Dave. It
is IMPOSSIBLE to legally view BBC content on iPlayer outside
the UK. Even UK resident TV licence holders cannot legally
access the iPlayer outside the UK (this is something the BBC is
“working on†and will for sure only be allowed if
and when a BBC account has to be linked to a current valid TV
licence, or when the law on broadcasting changes.
If you are paying /anyone/ for a “UK TV licenceâ€Â
Dave, you are being defrauded. You CANNOT pay for a licence and
have it be valid in Canada. It’s not allowed even in
Ireland.
Well some people do have work arounds!
Your use, clown, of the term "work arounds" almost implies that
YOU, clown, KNOW what YOU, clown, are doing *IS* illegal, clown!!
Prove it in court Dannyboy!
In article <upah55$uce3$4@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 30/1/24 7:44 am:
On 29.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:Correct .... because my Search phrase included 'bbc tv'.
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 4:16 pm:
On 29.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
Adding the BBC TV to the end of your Search phrase might help, e.g.Ever saw the Disney version of HHGTTG?
I don't think so.
I'm pretty sure what I saw on TV was a UK production. With
Sherlock's Watson as Arthur Dent. :)
Asking google though, it seems that was the disney production? Hm.
I'm confused.
"hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy bbc tv" worked for DuckDuckGo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy_%2
8TV_series%29 --
That doesn't mention Disney.
There is one that was done by Disney! Look that one up!
The Doctor wrote:
In article <nnd$48a8f232$1c241fee@997d354a61880203>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
You would not get the latest Doctor Who episodes on it though, as
they are exclusively streamed on Disney+ outside of the UK &
Ireland, as you know.
And give the WWE / Netflix deal ...
Well, I can't comment about the WWE deal as I don't follow wrestling,
but streaming platforms are the one's with all the $$ these days so
that's definitely the way entertainment is going. The streaming
services will gobble up all of the main licences and terrestrial
television will be left with revived games shows, reality TV and the
nine o'clock news!
Mickmane wrote on 30/01/2024 9:38 pm:
On 30.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:Except you typed "I'm pretty sure what I saw on TV was a UK production.
Mickmane wrote on 30/1/24 7:44 am:
On 29.01.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Mickmane wrote on 29/1/24 4:16 pm:
On 29.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
wrote:
Correct .... because my Search phrase included 'bbc tv'.Adding the BBC TV to the end of your Search phrase might help, e.g.Ever saw the Disney version of HHGTTG?
I don't think so.
I'm pretty sure what I saw on TV was a UK production. With
Sherlock's Watson as Arthur Dent. :)
Asking google though, it seems that was the disney production? Hm. >>>>>> I'm confused.
"hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy bbc tv" worked for DuckDuckGo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy_
%2 8TV_series%29 --
That doesn't mention Disney.
The question was whether I'd ever seen the Disney version of HHGttG.
With Sherlock's Watson as Arthur Dent. :)"
That was what I was responding to!
--
Daniel
The Doctor wrote on 31/01/2024 1:07 am:
In article <upai9b$un8r$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
The Doctor wrote on 30/1/24 2:55 am:
In article <up8hbc$h1gf$1@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor
<mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
<Snip>
A UK TV licence is valid at one single UK household Dave. It
is IMPOSSIBLE to legally view BBC content on iPlayer outside
the UK. Even UK resident TV licence holders cannot legally
access the iPlayer outside the UK (this is something the BBC is
“working on†and will for sure only be >allowed if
and when a BBC account has to be linked to a current valid TV
licence, or when the law on broadcasting changes.
If you are paying /anyone/ for a “UK TV >licenceâ€Â
Dave, you are being defrauded. You CANNOT pay for a licence and
have it be valid in Canada. It’s not allowed even in >>>>> Ireland.
Well some people do have work arounds!
Your use, clown, of the term "work arounds" almost implies that
YOU, clown, KNOW what YOU, clown, are doing *IS* illegal, clown!!
<Snip>
Prove it in court Dannyboy!
Would that be the exact same Court that Idlehands is going to be brought >before, yellow bearded Yaddllee??
--
Daniel
FYI 'Classic' is 1963 to 1989 and might include 1996.
On 30.01.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
FYI 'Classic' is 1963 to 1989 and might include 1996.
Yep. (Though I can never remember the exact years.)
--
Mickmane
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