I'm not going to talk about the absolute numbers - TV viewing in the UK
has undergone a seismic shift over the last few years, with all shows
having a marked decline in ratings in the official surveys. the raw
numbers don't tell a story any more.
Instead, let's concentrate on Doctor Who's relative performance compared
to other TV. So, looking at the BBC's preferred measure of 7-day
consolidated ratings, in terms of short-run scripted scripted fiction >(excluding factual and non-fictional light entertainment, and the 3- and
4- times a week soaps) - how is Doctor Who ACTUALLY performing?
Week 0 (Christmas):
8 (mostly specials) scripted fiction episodes in the top 50, all but one
on the BBC. Doctor Who came in 2nd overall, and 2nd for the BBC, with
98% of the audience for perennial ratings winner Call the Midwife.
Week 1:
5 scripted fiction episodes in the top 50. Doctor Who came in 3rd and
4th of those: but 2nd and 3rd for the BBC (ITV's Red Eye was in a league
of its own) with 96% and 93% of the audience for the top rated Blue Lights.
Week 2:
10 scripted fiction episodes in the top 50 (because Bridgerton Season 3
part 1 dropped on Netflix and stormed the charts). Doctor Who came in
5th for the week but 2nd for the BBC, behind Blue Lights again with 83%
of its audience.
Week 3:
Back to 5 scripted fiction episodes in the top 50: Doctor Who comes in
3rd, but 2nd for the BBC behind - you guessed it - Blue Lights, with 88%
of its audience.
Week 4:
Red Eye had ended. Blue Lights had ended.
Just THREE dramas in the top 50 this week, all on the BBC. Doctor Who
was #1. The most watched short-run scripted fiction in the UK for the week.
Week 5:
Just TWO dramas in the top 50 this week, both on the BBC. Doctor Who was
#1. The most watched short-run scripted fiction in the UK for the week.
We're still waiting for +7s for the last two weeks, but just so we're
all clear - the audience numbers are lower than ever before, that's
true. But that goes for ALL TV, not just Doctor Who.
In terms of its performance for the BBC, the new season of Doctor Who
has achieved, in the 6 weeks reported to date since Ncuti took the baton
from David as the lead:
#2, #2 and #3, #2, #2, #1, #1.
Don't believe the doomsayers. The total audience numbers aren't what
they were - but Doctor Who remains an enduring success for the BBC and
RTD. Disney may renew after next year, or they may not - but the show's
not going anywhere. No wonder RTD has half a dozen scripts in
development for 2026 already.
--
There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible >things. Things which act against everything we believe in.
They must be /fought/.
In article <v5e568$1gmr6$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
I'm not going to talk about the absolute numbers - TV viewing in the UK
has undergone a seismic shift over the last few years, with all shows
having a marked decline in ratings in the official surveys. the raw
numbers don't tell a story any more.
Instead, let's concentrate on Doctor Who's relative performance compared
to other TV. So, looking at the BBC's preferred measure of 7-day
consolidated ratings, in terms of short-run scripted scripted fiction
(excluding factual and non-fictional light entertainment, and the 3- and
4- times a week soaps) - how is Doctor Who ACTUALLY performing?
In terms of its performance for the BBC, the new season of Doctor Who
has achieved, in the 6 weeks reported to date since Ncuti took the baton
from David as the lead:
#2, #2 and #3, #2, #2, #1, #1.
Don't believe the doomsayers. The total audience numbers aren't what
they were - but Doctor Who remains an enduring success for the BBC and
RTD. Disney may renew after next year, or they may not - but the show's
not going anywhere. No wonder RTD has half a dozen scripts in
development for 2026 already.
The BBC might not renew with Bad Wolf.
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <v5e568$1gmr6$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
I'm not going to talk about the absolute numbers - TV viewing in the UK
has undergone a seismic shift over the last few years, with all shows
having a marked decline in ratings in the official surveys. the raw
numbers don't tell a story any more.
Instead, let's concentrate on Doctor Who's relative performance compared >>> to other TV. So, looking at the BBC's preferred measure of 7-day
consolidated ratings, in terms of short-run scripted scripted fiction
(excluding factual and non-fictional light entertainment, and the 3- and >>> 4- times a week soaps) - how is Doctor Who ACTUALLY performing?
In terms of its performance for the BBC, the new season of Doctor Who
has achieved, in the 6 weeks reported to date since Ncuti took the baton >>> from David as the lead:
#2, #2 and #3, #2, #2, #1, #1.
Don't believe the doomsayers. The total audience numbers aren't what
they were - but Doctor Who remains an enduring success for the BBC and
RTD. Disney may renew after next year, or they may not - but the show's
not going anywhere. No wonder RTD has half a dozen scripts in
development for 2026 already.
The BBC might not renew with Bad Wolf.
Not renew a drama that was the BBC’s best or second best rated scripted >show throughout its run?
Why on Earth would they do that unless they stop producing drama
altogether? (In which case Bad Wolf would likely negotiate a license to >continue, and sell the show to a streamer, much as Big Finish have been
doing for audio for the last 25 years).
--
“Most of the Universe is knackered, babes.” - The Doctor
In article <v5emt8$1k03c$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <v5e568$1gmr6$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
I'm not going to talk about the absolute numbers - TV viewing in the UK >>>> has undergone a seismic shift over the last few years, with all shows
having a marked decline in ratings in the official surveys. the raw
numbers don't tell a story any more.
Instead, let's concentrate on Doctor Who's relative performance compared >>>> to other TV. So, looking at the BBC's preferred measure of 7-day
consolidated ratings, in terms of short-run scripted scripted fiction
(excluding factual and non-fictional light entertainment, and the 3- and >>>> 4- times a week soaps) - how is Doctor Who ACTUALLY performing?
In terms of its performance for the BBC, the new season of Doctor Who
has achieved, in the 6 weeks reported to date since Ncuti took the baton >>>> from David as the lead:
#2, #2 and #3, #2, #2, #1, #1.
Don't believe the doomsayers. The total audience numbers aren't what
they were - but Doctor Who remains an enduring success for the BBC and >>>> RTD. Disney may renew after next year, or they may not - but the show's >>>> not going anywhere. No wonder RTD has half a dozen scripts in
development for 2026 already.
The BBC might not renew with Bad Wolf.
Not renew a drama that was the BBC’s best or second best rated scripted
show throughout its run?
Why on Earth would they do that unless they stop producing drama
altogether? (In which case Bad Wolf would likely negotiate a license to
continue, and sell the show to a streamer, much as Big Finish have been
doing for audio for the last 25 years).
I would was the rate of return is?
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <v5emt8$1k03c$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <v5e568$1gmr6$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
I'm not going to talk about the absolute numbers - TV viewing in the UK >>>>> has undergone a seismic shift over the last few years, with all shows >>>>> having a marked decline in ratings in the official surveys. the raw
numbers don't tell a story any more.
Instead, let's concentrate on Doctor Who's relative performance compared >>>>> to other TV. So, looking at the BBC's preferred measure of 7-day
consolidated ratings, in terms of short-run scripted scripted fiction >>>>> (excluding factual and non-fictional light entertainment, and the 3- and >>>>> 4- times a week soaps) - how is Doctor Who ACTUALLY performing?
In terms of its performance for the BBC, the new season of Doctor Who >>>>> has achieved, in the 6 weeks reported to date since Ncuti took the baton >>>>> from David as the lead:
#2, #2 and #3, #2, #2, #1, #1.
Don't believe the doomsayers. The total audience numbers aren't what >>>>> they were - but Doctor Who remains an enduring success for the BBC and >>>>> RTD. Disney may renew after next year, or they may not - but the show's >>>>> not going anywhere. No wonder RTD has half a dozen scripts in
development for 2026 already.
The BBC might not renew with Bad Wolf.
Not renew a drama that was the BBC’s best or second best rated scripted >>> show throughout its run?
Why on Earth would they do that unless they stop producing drama
altogether? (In which case Bad Wolf would likely negotiate a license to
continue, and sell the show to a streamer, much as Big Finish have been
doing for audio for the last 25 years).
I would want to know what the the rate of return is?
It’s infinite, Dave. Every penny the BBC gets from its Big Finish licenses >is free money, because there’s no BBC outlay.
As far as the TV show goes, at present the BBC is paying Bad Wolf to make
it and presumably is getting the lion’s share of the streaming agreement >with Disney. Plus, of course, it gets a high performing drama with a
viewing demographic that skews towards younger people. So “rate of return” >doesn’t come into it yet.
--
“Most of the Universe is knackered, babes.” - The Doctor
I'm not going to talk about the absolute numbers - TV viewing in the UK
has undergone a seismic shift over the last few years, with all shows
having a marked decline in ratings in the official surveys. the raw
numbers don't tell a story any more.
Instead, let's concentrate on Doctor Who's relative performance compared
to other TV. So, looking at the BBC's preferred measure of 7-day
consolidated ratings, in terms of short-run scripted scripted fiction (excluding factual and non-fictional light entertainment, and the 3- and
4- times a week soaps) - how is Doctor Who ACTUALLY performing?
Week 0 (Christmas):
8 (mostly specials) scripted fiction episodes in the top 50, all but one
on the BBC. Doctor Who came in 2nd overall, and 2nd for the BBC, with
98% of the audience for perennial ratings winner Call the Midwife.
Week 1:
5 scripted fiction episodes in the top 50. Doctor Who came in 3rd and
4th of those: but 2nd and 3rd for the BBC (ITV's Red Eye was in a league
of its own) with 96% and 93% of the audience for the top rated Blue Lights.
Week 2:
10 scripted fiction episodes in the top 50 (because Bridgerton Season 3
part 1 dropped on Netflix and stormed the charts). Doctor Who came in
5th for the week but 2nd for the BBC, behind Blue Lights again with 83%
of its audience.
Week 3:
Back to 5 scripted fiction episodes in the top 50: Doctor Who comes in
3rd, but 2nd for the BBC behind - you guessed it - Blue Lights, with 88%
of its audience.
Week 4:
Red Eye had ended. Blue Lights had ended.
Just THREE dramas in the top 50 this week, all on the BBC. Doctor Who
was #1. The most watched short-run scripted fiction in the UK for the week.
Week 5:
Just TWO dramas in the top 50 this week, both on the BBC. Doctor Who was
#1. The most watched short-run scripted fiction in the UK for the week.
We're still waiting for +7s for the last two weeks, but just so we're
all clear - the audience numbers are lower than ever before, that's
true. But that goes for ALL TV, not just Doctor Who.
In terms of its performance for the BBC, the new season of Doctor Who
has achieved, in the 6 weeks reported to date since Ncuti took the baton
from David as the lead:
#2, #2 and #3, #2, #2, #1, #1.
Don't believe the doomsayers. The total audience numbers aren't what
they were - but Doctor Who remains an enduring success for the BBC and
RTD. Disney may renew after next year, or they may not - but the show's
not going anywhere. No wonder RTD has half a dozen scripts in
development for 2026 already.
Don't believe the doomsayers. The total audience numbers
aren't what they were - but Doctor Who remains an enduring
success for the BBC and RTD. Disney may renew after next year,
or they may not - but the show's not going anywhere. No wonder
RTD has half a dozen scripts in development for 2026 already.
On 25/06/2024 11:12, Squealer squealed:
I'm not going to talk about the absolute numbers - TV
viewing in the UK has undergone a seismic shift over the
last few years, with all shows having a marked decline in
ratings in the official surveys. the raw numbers don't tell
a story any more.
No one is watching them because they've gone totally woke.
Look at EastEnders which has gone from 20 million to only 2
million.
Aren't what they were? They're 1/5 of what they were. Gatwa
has less viewers over 7 days plus mobile devices than than the
low figurers Whittaker was getting overnight which were half
the overnights of Eccleston, Tennant, Smith, and Capaldi
before he went woke.
2 million viewers on average for a series costing $100,000,000
to make is totally laughable.
Get Woke, Go Broke!
RTD. Disney may renew after next year, or they may not - but
the show's not going anywhere. No wonder RTD has half a
dozen scripts in development for 2026 already.
Since Doctor Who is dead of course it's not going anywhere
Squealer.
Doctor Who ended in 2017 and the woke trash is has been
replaced with which nobody watches, it's just on in the
background just like EastEnders while people do far better
things like cooking, eating, doing the housework and the
washing up.
On 25/06/2024 11:12, Squealer squealed:
I'm not going to talk about the absolute numbers - TV viewing in the UK
has undergone a seismic shift over the last few years, with all shows
having a marked decline in ratings in the official surveys. the raw
numbers don't tell a story any more.
No one is watching them because they've gone totally woke. Look at
EastEnders which has gone from 20 million to only 2 million.
Instead, let's concentrate on Doctor Who's relative performance compared
to other TV. So, looking at the BBC's preferred measure of 7-day
Squealer is doing his numbers trick trying to pretend the productivity
on Animal Farm is higher than ever despite there being a famine and all
of the animals suffering of hunger, except of course for the pigs.
consolidated ratings, in terms of short-run scripted scripted fiction
(excluding factual and non-fictional light entertainment, and the 3- and
4- times a week soaps) - how is Doctor Who ACTUALLY performing?
Short-run scripted scripted fiction... LOL
Why don't you narrow it down further Squealer. Short-run scripted
scripted fiction stating a black effeminate gay male actor in the lead
role but written as a woman and a crying baby.
Week 0 (Christmas):
8 (mostly specials) scripted fiction episodes in the top 50, all but one
on the BBC. Doctor Who came in 2nd overall, and 2nd for the BBC, with
98% of the audience for perennial ratings winner Call the Midwife.
2nd out of short-run scripted scripted fiction which hardly anyone
watchers and costs hundreds of millions of Licence Fee Payers' money to
make.
Week 1:
5 scripted fiction episodes in the top 50. Doctor Who came in 3rd and
4th of those: but 2nd and 3rd for the BBC (ITV's Red Eye was in a league
of its own) with 96% and 93% of the audience for the top rated Blue Lights. >>
Blah, blah, blah...
Week 2:
10 scripted fiction episodes in the top 50 (because Bridgerton Season 3
part 1 dropped on Netflix and stormed the charts). Doctor Who came in
5th for the week but 2nd for the BBC, behind Blue Lights again with 83%
of its audience.
Blah, blah, blah...
Week 3:
Back to 5 scripted fiction episodes in the top 50: Doctor Who comes in
3rd, but 2nd for the BBC behind - you guessed it - Blue Lights, with 88%
of its audience.
Blah, blah, blah...
Week 4:
Red Eye had ended. Blue Lights had ended.
Just THREE dramas in the top 50 this week, all on the BBC. Doctor Who
was #1. The most watched short-run scripted fiction in the UK for the week. >>
Blah, blah, blah...
Week 5:
Just TWO dramas in the top 50 this week, both on the BBC. Doctor Who was
#1. The most watched short-run scripted fiction in the UK for the week.
Blah, blah, blah...
We're still waiting for +7s for the last two weeks, but just so we're
all clear - the audience numbers are lower than ever before, that's
true. But that goes for ALL TV, not just Doctor Who.
In terms of its performance for the BBC, the new season of Doctor Who
has achieved, in the 6 weeks reported to date since Ncuti took the baton
from David as the lead:
#2, #2 and #3, #2, #2, #1, #1.
Don't believe the doomsayers. The total audience numbers aren't what
they were - but Doctor Who remains an enduring success for the BBC and
Aren't what they were? They're 1/5 of what they were. Gatwa has less
viewers over 7 days plus mobile devices than than the low figurers
Whittaker was getting overnight which were half the overnights of
Eccleston, Tennant, Smith, and Capaldi before he went woke.
2 million viewers on average for a series costing $100,000,000 to make
is totally laughable.
Get Woke, Go Broke!
RTD. Disney may renew after next year, or they may not - but the show's
not going anywhere. No wonder RTD has half a dozen scripts in
development for 2026 already.
Since Doctor Who is dead of course it's not going anywhere Squealer.
Doctor Who ended in 2017 and the woke trash is has been replaced with
which nobody watches, it's just on in the background just like
EastEnders while people do far better things like cooking, eating, doing
the housework and the washing up.
If Davies want people watching and isn't just doing it as an ego trip
for himself and to sexually groom children then he must totally remove
the Timeless Child monster from canon and get rid the woke, stop writing
the show just for women, get rid of Gatwa, and write the show for it's
actual audience who are mainly white heterosexual men which means basing
it on the hero's journey and not irrational and illogical sentiment and >emotion and stupid mystery boxes which when you open them are always empty.
--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner
The Last Doctor wrote:
Don't believe the doomsayers. The total audience numbers
aren't what they were - but Doctor Who remains an enduring
success for the BBC and RTD. Disney may renew after next year,
or they may not - but the show's not going anywhere. No wonder
RTD has half a dozen scripts in development for 2026 already.
As RTD said recently:
"But according to the people who juggle the numbers, all targets
have been reached and exceeded."
Yes, he could be telling lies, but as RTD has the inside data
and knows what the BBC's expectations are. Why would he make
such a bold statement publicly if it was untrue? So who do we
believe, the Executive Producer of a TV show or the YouTube
commentators and other spurious individuals who claim only 200
people are watching "Doctor Who"? I believe RTD, so I don't
believe "Doctor Who" is going anywhere any time soon.
As for Disney... well, we'll never know exactly what their
expectations are from "Doctor Who" in the international markets,
which is one show among many on their platform. But Disney do
get monthly subscription fees from their customers, plus ad
revenue from their subscribers who choose the cheaper Disney+
plan, meaning the shows those people watch feature
[non-skippable] adverts. So Disney do have money coming in
regardless. We'll know how happy they are are with "Doctor Who",
or not, when the time comes to renew their partnership with the
BBC for the "Doctor Who" international streaming rights.
In article <xn0oni3uww1wnuc002@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
Doctor Who ended in 2017 and the woke trash is has been
replaced with which nobody watches, it's just on in the
background just like EastEnders while people do far better
things like cooking, eating, doing the housework and the
washing up.
But you still watch it...
And you.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0oni3uww1wnuc002@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
Doctor Who ended in 2017 and the woke trash is has been
replaced with which nobody watches, it's just on in the
background just like EastEnders while people do far better
things like cooking, eating, doing the housework and the
washing up.
But you still watch it...
And you.
<face palm>
I am not the person saying nobody watches it you fucking clown!
The Last Doctor wrote:
Don't believe the doomsayers. The total audience numbers
aren't what they were - but Doctor Who remains an enduring
success for the BBC and RTD. Disney may renew after next year,
or they may not - but the show's not going anywhere. No wonder
RTD has half a dozen scripts in development for 2026 already.
As RTD said recently:
"But according to the people who juggle the numbers, all targets
have been reached and exceeded."
Yes, he could be telling lies, but as RTD has the inside data
and knows what the BBC's expectations are. Why would he make
such a bold statement publicly if it was untrue? So who do we
believe, the Executive Producer of a TV show or the YouTube
commentators and other spurious individuals who claim only 200
people are watching "Doctor Who"? I believe RTD, so I don't
believe "Doctor Who" is going anywhere any time soon.
As for Disney... well, we'll never know exactly what their
expectations are from "Doctor Who" in the international markets,
which is one show among many on their platform. But Disney do
get monthly subscription fees from their customers, plus ad
revenue from their subscribers who choose the cheaper Disney+
plan, meaning the shows those people watch feature
[non-skippable] adverts. So Disney do have money coming in
regardless. We'll know how happy they are are with "Doctor Who",
or not, when the time comes to renew their partnership with the
BBC for the "Doctor Who" international streaming rights.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0oni3uww1wnuc002@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
Doctor Who ended in 2017 and the woke trash is has been
replaced with which nobody watches, it's just on in the
background just like EastEnders while people do far better
things like cooking, eating, doing the housework and the
washing up.
But you still watch it...
And you.
<face palm>
I am not the person saying nobody watches it you clown!
On 25/06/2024 23:54, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0oni3uww1wnuc002@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
Doctor Who ended in 2017 and the woke trash is has been
replaced with which nobody watches, it's just on in the
background just like EastEnders while people do far better
things like cooking, eating, doing the housework and the
washing up.
But you still watch it...
And you.
<face palm>
I am not the person saying nobody watches it you clown!
No, that is BARB. The viewership has been driven so low that no on is >watching at all. They've just go the TV on in the background while doing
the housework, or unblockign the toilet, or something else more enjoyable.
--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner
The True Doctor wrote:
On 25/06/2024 11:12, Squealer squealed:
I'm not going to talk about the absolute numbers - TV
viewing in the UK has undergone a seismic shift over the
last few years, with all shows having a marked decline in
ratings in the official surveys. the raw numbers don't tell
a story any more.
No one is watching them because they've gone totally woke.
Look at EastEnders which has gone from 20 million to only 2
million.
Not the greatest comparison, as EastEnders is on twice a week
and is never ending, so I can see how people could get tired of
that! Doctor Who only had four episodes broadcast in 2023 and
eight (so far) in 2024.
Yes, television audiences have dropped across the board but I
would expect a show that's only on for seven weeks to hold some
of it's audience share, and it seems Doctor Who's relative
performance in relation to other terrestrial TV shows has been
okay. The total viewing figures are disappointing on the
surface, but the real question is, what viewing figures are
acceptable to the BBC for Doctor Who in 2024? What people say on
YouTube, despite creating a negative impression of a TV show
they profess to be fans of, is irrelevant at the end of the day.
If the BBC are happy with the figures that matter TO THEM, be
they the 7/14/28 day figures, or whatever, then that's all that
matters, as Doctor Who is a BBC TV show.
Would the BBC be happy with lower BBC1 viewing figures for
Doctor Who if they continue to pocket $$ from Disney? If Disney
do not renew their partnership with the BBC for Doctor Who,
would that spell trouble for Doctor Who or would the UK licence
payer pick up the bill? These are the more pertinent questions
to you as a UK TV licence payer than continually saying the
viewing figures are down... and seeming to take great delight in
saying so. As a fan you should want Doctor Who to be a success.
Aren't what they were? They're 1/5 of what they were. Gatwa
has less viewers over 7 days plus mobile devices than than the
low figurers Whittaker was getting overnight which were half
the overnights of Eccleston, Tennant, Smith, and Capaldi
before he went woke.
2 million viewers on average for a series costing $100,000,000
to make is totally laughable.
Get Woke, Go Broke!
Nice catch phrase... but if you mean diversity and inclusion
equals woke then most drama shows on TV these days could be
termed as "woke"... they still get made though don't they?
(Incidentally, "Rings of Power" Season 2 returns this August on
Prime... I don't see Amazon going broke any time soon!)
Don't be like Dave with inane one line catch phrases repeated ad
nauseum...
RTD. Disney may renew after next year, or they may not - but
the show's not going anywhere. No wonder RTD has half a
dozen scripts in development for 2026 already.
Since Doctor Who is dead of course it's not going anywhere
Squealer.
A new UK government and possible changes to the TV licence fee
at some stage in the future, coupled with lack of investment from
outside sources, could - in theory - affect a lot of BBC TV
shows long term. The traditional television landscape is
changing. (Maybe that's one of the reasons why the BBC partnered
with Disney in the first place.)
Doctor Who ended in 2017 and the woke trash is has been
replaced with which nobody watches, it's just on in the
background just like EastEnders while people do far better
things like cooking, eating, doing the housework and the
washing up.
But you still watch it...
On 25/06/2024 22:45, Blueshirt wrote:
As RTD said recently:
"But according to the people who juggle the numbers, all
targets have been reached and exceeded."
So he admits to fiddling the statistics and making the targets
so low that they were always going to be reached and exceeded.
Yes, he could be telling lies, but as RTD has the inside data
RTD is a proven serial liar.
and knows what the BBC's expectations are. Why would he make
such a bold statement publicly if it was untrue? So who do we
believe, the Executive Producer of a TV show or the YouTube
commentators and other spurious individuals who claim only
200 people are watching "Doctor Who"? I believe RTD, so I
don't believe "Doctor Who" is going anywhere any time soon.
I believe the actual numbers and until I see them the best
numbers we have are from Doomcock and my analysis of them
based on the viewing patterns of my YouTube channel.
As for Disney... well, we'll never know exactly what their
expectations are from "Doctor Who" in the international
markets, which is one show among many on their platform. But
Disney do
It's never been in their top 10 and their top 10 corresponds
to less than 2 million views per episode, and only 1% of views
on streaming are views of the whole episode.
get monthly subscription fees from their customers, plus ad
revenue from their subscribers who choose the cheaper Disney+
plan, meaning the shows those people watch feature
[non-skippable] adverts. So Disney do have money coming in
regardless. We'll know how happy they are are with "Doctor
Who", or not, when the time comes to renew their partnership
with the BBC for the "Doctor Who" international streaming
rights.
It will depended on how far into the bargain basement the BBC
are willing to drop the price. They're not going to be able to
get enough to make a new series for this badly written woke
garbage that hates, despises, and totally detests its male
audience.
On 25/06/2024 23:54, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0oni3uww1wnuc002@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
Doctor Who ended in 2017 and the woke trash is has been
replaced with which nobody watches, it's just on in the
background just like EastEnders while people do far
better things like cooking, eating, doing the
housework and the washing up.
But you still watch it...
And you.
I am not the person saying nobody watches it
No, that is BARB.
On 2024-06-25 22:32:20 +0000, Blueshirt said:
The True Doctor wrote:
Since Doctor Who is dead of course it's not going anywhere.
A new UK government and possible changes to the TV licence
fee at some stage in the future, coupled with lack of
investment from outside sources, could - in theory - affect
a lot of BBC TV shows long term. The traditional television
landscape is changing. (Maybe that's one of the reasons why
the BBC partnered with Disney in the first place.)
That alone would be an incredibly silly reason.
The BBC already has it's own streaming service within the UK,
and most of their partner networks in other countries will
also already have their own streaming services - and in the
case of countries where it was broadcast on free-to-air
channels, the streaming service is also usually free. By
selling the international streaming to only Disney+, they've
massively lowered their potential audience
The real reason simply comes down to money - Disney offered a
huge amount and the BBC jumped at it. The viewers / fans were
irrelevant, as usual.
On 2024-06-25 22:32:20 +0000, Blueshirt said:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 25/06/2024 11:12, Squealer squealed:
I'm not going to talk about the absolute numbers - TV
viewing in the UK has undergone a seismic shift over the
last few years, with all shows having a marked decline in
ratings in the official surveys. the raw numbers don't tell
a story any more.
No one is watching them because they've gone totally woke.
Look at EastEnders which has gone from 20 million to only 2
million.
Not the greatest comparison, as EastEnders is on twice a week
and is never ending, so I can see how people could get tired of
that! Doctor Who only had four episodes broadcast in 2023 and
eight (so far) in 2024.
Yes, television audiences have dropped across the board but I
would expect a show that's only on for seven weeks to hold some
of it's audience share, and it seems Doctor Who's relative
performance in relation to other terrestrial TV shows has been
okay. The total viewing figures are disappointing on the
surface, but the real question is, what viewing figures are
acceptable to the BBC for Doctor Who in 2024? What people say on
YouTube, despite creating a negative impression of a TV show
they profess to be fans of, is irrelevant at the end of the day.
If the BBC are happy with the figures that matter TO THEM, be
they the 7/14/28 day figures, or whatever, then that's all that
matters, as Doctor Who is a BBC TV show.
Would the BBC be happy with lower BBC1 viewing figures for
Doctor Who if they continue to pocket $$ from Disney? If Disney
do not renew their partnership with the BBC for Doctor Who,
would that spell trouble for Doctor Who or would the UK licence
payer pick up the bill? These are the more pertinent questions
to you as a UK TV licence payer than continually saying the
viewing figures are down... and seeming to take great delight in
saying so. As a fan you should want Doctor Who to be a success.
Aren't what they were? They're 1/5 of what they were. Gatwa
has less viewers over 7 days plus mobile devices than than the
low figurers Whittaker was getting overnight which were half
the overnights of Eccleston, Tennant, Smith, and Capaldi
before he went woke.
2 million viewers on average for a series costing $100,000,000
to make is totally laughable.
Get Woke, Go Broke!
Nice catch phrase... but if you mean diversity and inclusion
equals woke then most drama shows on TV these days could be
termed as "woke"... they still get made though don't they?
(Incidentally, "Rings of Power" Season 2 returns this August on
Prime... I don't see Amazon going broke any time soon!)
Don't be like Dave with inane one line catch phrases repeated ad
nauseum...
RTD. Disney may renew after next year, or they may not - but
the show's not going anywhere. No wonder RTD has half a
dozen scripts in development for 2026 already.
Since Doctor Who is dead of course it's not going anywhere
Squealer.
A new UK government and possible changes to the TV licence fee
at some stage in the future, coupled with lack of investment from
outside sources, could - in theory - affect a lot of BBC TV
shows long term. The traditional television landscape is
changing. (Maybe that's one of the reasons why the BBC partnered
with Disney in the first place.)
That alone would be an incredibly silly reason.
The BBC already has it's own streaming service within the UK, and most
of their partner networks in other countries will also already have
their own streaming services - and in the case of countries where it
was broadcast on free-to-air channels, the streaming service is also
usually free. By selling the international streaming to only Disney+,
they've massively lowered their potential audience.
The real reason simply comes down to money - Disney offered a huge
amount and the BBC jumped at it. The viewers / fans were irrelevant, as >usual.
Doctor Who ended in 2017 and the woke trash is has been
replaced with which nobody watches, it's just on in the
background just like EastEnders while people do far better
things like cooking, eating, doing the housework and the
washing up.
But you still watch it...
The True Doctor wrote:
On 25/06/2024 22:45, Blueshirt wrote:
As RTD said recently:
"But according to the people who juggle the numbers, all
targets have been reached and exceeded."
So he admits to fiddling the statistics and making the targets
so low that they were always going to be reached and exceeded.
I doubt RTD is the man that sets the targets, I would assume the
BBC executives and bean counters would be responsible for that.
The people producing TV shows for the BBC don't tell them what
viewing figures to expect for their money!
Yes, he could be telling lies, but as RTD has the inside data
RTD is a proven serial liar.
Misdirection and downright lies are two different things. Again,
if he was telling lies, why bother saying anything anyway? He
could just say nothing.
and knows what the BBC's expectations are. Why would he make
such a bold statement publicly if it was untrue? So who do we
believe, the Executive Producer of a TV show or the YouTube
commentators and other spurious individuals who claim only
200 people are watching "Doctor Who"? I believe RTD, so I
don't believe "Doctor Who" is going anywhere any time soon.
I believe the actual numbers and until I see them the best
numbers we have are from Doomcock and my analysis of them
based on the viewing patterns of my YouTube channel.
That is your choice, and if the BBC cancel Doctor Who after
S2/S15 then you might have been right... after all why would
they persevere with a show that didn't meet the targets they had
set it?
My money is on Doctor Who S3, S4 and more spin-offs... which
would prove that the targets had "been reached and exceeded", as
RTD said. So we'll know for sure then won't we?
As for Disney... well, we'll never know exactly what their
expectations are from "Doctor Who" in the international
markets, which is one show among many on their platform. But
Disney do
It's never been in their top 10 and their top 10 corresponds
to less than 2 million views per episode, and only 1% of views
on streaming are views of the whole episode.
That's irrelevant if you don't know what expectations Disney had
for the show on its streaming platform. Doctor Who is not a show
they actually make, so are they getting value for money for the
money they are paying the BBC would be what the Disney
executives would be focused on. Not what people on YouTube say.
If Disney thought Doctor Who would be the top show in the US on
Disney+ every week then yes, they'll be disappointed. But even I
didn't expect that! So they will make their judgement on whether
their investment has given them value for money in the long run.
get monthly subscription fees from their customers, plus ad
revenue from their subscribers who choose the cheaper Disney+
plan, meaning the shows those people watch feature
[non-skippable] adverts. So Disney do have money coming in
regardless. We'll know how happy they are are with "Doctor
Who", or not, when the time comes to renew their partnership
with the BBC for the "Doctor Who" international streaming
rights.
It will depended on how far into the bargain basement the BBC
are willing to drop the price. They're not going to be able to
get enough to make a new series for this badly written woke
garbage that hates, despises, and totally detests its male
audience.
As I said, we'll know how happy Disney are with Doctor Who when
the time comes to renew their partnership with the BBC. I can't
say if they will or they wont, as I don't know what they
expected from the show. Especially as it is not on their
platform in the UK which would be Doctor Who's biggest market!
Your Name wrote:
On 2024-06-25 22:32:20 +0000, Blueshirt said:
The True Doctor wrote:
Since Doctor Who is dead of course it's not going anywhere.
A new UK government and possible changes to the TV licence
fee at some stage in the future, coupled with lack of
investment from outside sources, could - in theory - affect
a lot of BBC TV shows long term. The traditional television
landscape is changing. (Maybe that's one of the reasons why
the BBC partnered with Disney in the first place.)
That alone would be an incredibly silly reason.
On it's own, yes. But what of the future, maybe more BBC shows
could end up on Disney+ as opposed to Netflix/Prime as the BBC
have some sort of ongoing relationship with them?
The BBC already has it's own streaming service within the UK,
and most of their partner networks in other countries will
also already have their own streaming services - and in the
case of countries where it was broadcast on free-to-air
channels, the streaming service is also usually free. By
selling the international streaming to only Disney+, they've
massively lowered their potential audience
Money will always talk!
The real reason simply comes down to money - Disney offered a
huge amount and the BBC jumped at it. The viewers / fans were
irrelevant, as usual.
Of course, but what were Disney expecting from their investment?
Doctor Who is a UK produced TV show and Disney, for whatever sum
they invested, can't even stream Doctor Who on Disney+ in the
UK, or Ireland come to that matter. So they have invested money
in a UK TV show for their US and international markets... so
they must see a bigger picture.
The BBC will take help from wherever it can get it... anyone
paying attention the the end credits of Doctor Who episodes will
spot the harp of Ireland logo because the Irish government has
provided some sort of support to its production. So the BBC were
never going to turn away Disney dollars!
The True Doctor wrote:
On 25/06/2024 23:54, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0oni3uww1wnuc002@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
Doctor Who ended in 2017 and the woke trash is has been
replaced with which nobody watches, it's just on in the
background just like EastEnders while people do far
better things like cooking, eating, doing the
housework and the washing up.
But you still watch it...
And you.
I am not the person saying nobody watches it
No, that is BARB.
Yes, but you are still thinking of TV ratings like it's the
1970's... the BBC are not a commercial channel trying to attract
advertising. The whole television ratings landscape has changed,
as you are aware. BARB produce 28 day figures and it's clear
that TV shows pick up viewers over a longer period than one
week. In the 1970's this couldn't happen. If Doctor Who was on
at 5:15 on Saturday and you missed it, then you missed it! So
you HAD to sit down on Saturday at 5:15 to watch it. There was
no other choice. In 2024, there is...
Just yesterday over here (and you can look it up) RTE announced
that from 2027 50% of it's new TV shows would be 'online first'.
As in, the shows will be available for streaming on the RTE
Player before their transmission on RTE 1/RTE 2 ... and unlike
BBC 1/2 they are both commercial TV channels with adverts! So
obsessing about overnight and short term ratings is not the way
the television industry is going. There seems to be a bigger
picture at play and these broadcasters seem to think streaming
is the way the younger generation consume their TV shows now,
and that's their target.
In article <xn0onj3ugwxjfmv002@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
It will depended on how far into the bargain basement the
BBC are willing to drop the price. They're not going to be
able to get enough to make a new series for this badly
written woke garbage that hates, despises, and totally
detests its male audience.
As I said, we'll know how happy Disney are with Doctor Who
when the time comes to renew their partnership with the BBC.
I can't say if they will or they wont, as I don't know what
they expected from the show. Especially as it is not on their
platform in the UK which would be Doctor Who's biggest
market!
But what is return on investment like?
On 26/06/2024 14:28, Blueshirt wrote:
BARB produce 28 day figures and it's clear that TV
shows pick up viewers over a longer period than one week.
In the 1970's this couldn't happen. If Doctor Who was
on at 5:15 on Saturday and you missed it, then you missed
it! So you HAD to sit down on Saturday at 5:15 to watch it.
There was no other choice. In 2024, there is...
You're not fooling anyone. Gatwa's 7 day viewing figures are
worse than Whittaker's overnights. His 28 day figures are half
her 7 day figures. No one is watching or enjoying this woke
crap. The show has lost 4/5 of its audience.
Just yesterday over here (and you can look it up) RTE
announced that from 2027 50% of it's new TV shows would be
'online first'. As in, the shows will be available for
streaming on the RTE Player before their transmission on RTE
1/RTE 2 ... and unlike
So RTE has figured out that no one watches anything online so
is using it as a marketing gimmick to pretend how up-to-date
it is.
BBC 1/2 they are both commercial TV channels with adverts! So
RTE knows no one watches online so the advertisers won't lose
any viewers.
I'm not trying to fool anyone, I am only telling you what I
think based on what I read. Nobody is saying the viewership of
Doctor Who hasn't gone down. Even RTD commenting on the viewing
figures said "they might not be the ratings we'd love. We
always want higher. But they are building over the 28-day
period."
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after it
was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
It's only the people with agendas that are trying to fool
people.
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after it
was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0onj3ugwxjfmv002@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
It will depended on how far into the bargain basement the
BBC are willing to drop the price. They're not going to be
able to get enough to make a new series for this badly
written woke garbage that hates, despises, and totally
detests its male audience.
As I said, we'll know how happy Disney are with Doctor Who
when the time comes to renew their partnership with the BBC.
I can't say if they will or they wont, as I don't know what
they expected from the show. Especially as it is not on their
platform in the UK which would be Doctor Who's biggest
market!
But what is return on investment like?
That is the question, and only the Disney executives know the
answer.
Your Name wrote:
On 2024-06-25 22:32:20 +0000, Blueshirt said:
The True Doctor wrote:
Since Doctor Who is dead of course it's not going anywhere.
A new UK government and possible changes to the TV licence
fee at some stage in the future, coupled with lack of
investment from outside sources, could - in theory - affect
a lot of BBC TV shows long term. The traditional television
landscape is changing. (Maybe that's one of the reasons why
the BBC partnered with Disney in the first place.)
That alone would be an incredibly silly reason.
On it's own, yes. But what of the future, maybe more BBC shows
could end up on Disney+ as opposed to Netflix/Prime as the BBC
have some sort of ongoing relationship with them?
The BBC already has it's own streaming service within the UK,
and most of their partner networks in other countries will
also already have their own streaming services - and in the
case of countries where it was broadcast on free-to-air
channels, the streaming service is also usually free. By
selling the international streaming to only Disney+, they've
massively lowered their potential audience
Money will always talk!
The real reason simply comes down to money - Disney offered a
huge amount and the BBC jumped at it. The viewers / fans were
irrelevant, as usual.
Of course, but what were Disney expecting from their investment?
Doctor Who is a UK produced TV show and Disney, for whatever sum
they invested, can't even stream Doctor Who on Disney+ in the
UK, or Ireland come to that matter. So they have invested money
in a UK TV show for their US and international markets... so
they must see a bigger picture.
The BBC will take help from wherever it can get it... anyone
paying attention the the end credits of Doctor Who episodes will
spot the harp of Ireland logo because the Irish government has
provided some sort of support to its production. So the BBC were
never going to turn away Disney dollars!
On 26/06/2024 14:28, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 25/06/2024 23:54, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0oni3uww1wnuc002@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
Doctor Who ended in 2017 and the woke trash is has been
replaced with which nobody watches, it's just on in the
background just like EastEnders while people do far
better things like cooking, eating, doing the
housework and the washing up.
But you still watch it...
And you.
I am not the person saying nobody watches it
No, that is BARB.
Yes, but you are still thinking of TV ratings like it's the
1970's... the BBC are not a commercial channel trying to attract
advertising. The whole television ratings landscape has changed,
They're a public service broadcasted paid for by the public which is
forced to pay the BBC licence fee to watch other broadcasters. This is >totally despicable when the BBC can do nothing but constantly ridicule
and demean men who are paying for them to exist and totally
disenfranchise them from programmes like Doctor Who which is supposed to
be for a predominately heterosexual male audience by writing the Doctor
as a woman and crying baby girl and making him homosexual and
effeminate. Enough is Enough!
If the BBC is not supposed to be a commercial channel then why is it
behaving like one by only catering from women between the ages of 35 and
44 from the C2, D, E demographic, ie. the stupids, who will buy anything >advertised to them and fall for any degenerate woke messaging.
as you are aware. BARB produce 28 day figures and it's clear
that TV shows pick up viewers over a longer period than one
week. In the 1970's this couldn't happen. If Doctor Who was on
at 5:15 on Saturday and you missed it, then you missed it! So
you HAD to sit down on Saturday at 5:15 to watch it. There was
no other choice. In 2024, there is...
You're not fooling anyone. Gatwa's 7 day viewing figures are worse than >Whittaker's overnights. His 28 day figures are half her 7 day figures.
No one is watching or enjoying this woke crap. The show has lost 4/5 of
its audience.
Just yesterday over here (and you can look it up) RTE announced
that from 2027 50% of it's new TV shows would be 'online first'.
As in, the shows will be available for streaming on the RTE
Player before their transmission on RTE 1/RTE 2 ... and unlike
So RTE has figured out that no one watches anything online so is using
it as a marketing gimmick to pretend how up-to-date it is.
BBC 1/2 they are both commercial TV channels with adverts! So
RTE knows no one watches online so the advertisers won't lose any viewers.
obsessing about overnight and short term ratings is not the way
the television industry is going. There seems to be a bigger
picture at play and these broadcasters seem to think streaming
is the way the younger generation consume their TV shows now,
and that's their target.
The younger generation don't watch anything. They're sick to death of
woke garbage being forced down their throats so they play video games
instead and soon they won't even play those either after they've all
started going woke.
There's more people watching classic episodes of Friends and other stuff
like that than are watching the badly written woke s*t plastered all
over Disney+ and the BBC.
--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0onj3ugwxjfmv002@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
It will depended on how far into the bargain basement the
BBC are willing to drop the price. They're not going to be
able to get enough to make a new series for this badly
written woke garbage that hates, despises, and totally
detests its male audience.
As I said, we'll know how happy Disney are with Doctor Who
when the time comes to renew their partnership with the BBC.
I can't say if they will or they wont, as I don't know what
they expected from the show. Especially as it is not on their
platform in the UK which would be Doctor Who's biggest
market!
But what is return on investment like?
That is the question, and only the Disney executives know the
answer.
The True Doctor wrote:
On 26/06/2024 14:28, Blueshirt wrote:
BARB produce 28 day figures and it's clear that TV
shows pick up viewers over a longer period than one week.
In the 1970's this couldn't happen. If Doctor Who was
on at 5:15 on Saturday and you missed it, then you missed
it! So you HAD to sit down on Saturday at 5:15 to watch it.
There was no other choice. In 2024, there is...
You're not fooling anyone. Gatwa's 7 day viewing figures are
worse than Whittaker's overnights. His 28 day figures are half
her 7 day figures. No one is watching or enjoying this woke
crap. The show has lost 4/5 of its audience.
I'm not trying to fool anyone, I am only telling you what I
think based on what I read. Nobody is saying the viewership of
Doctor Who hasn't gone down. Even RTD commenting on the viewing
figures said "they might not be the ratings we'd love. We always
want higher. But they are building over the 28-day period."
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after it
was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
It's only the people with agendas that are trying to fool people.
Just yesterday over here (and you can look it up) RTE
announced that from 2027 50% of it's new TV shows would be
'online first'. As in, the shows will be available for
streaming on the RTE Player before their transmission on RTE
1/RTE 2 ... and unlike
So RTE has figured out that no one watches anything online so
is using it as a marketing gimmick to pretend how up-to-date
it is.
I can't say... as until 'Season One' of Doctor Who I never
watched anything "online first".
BBC 1/2 they are both commercial TV channels with adverts! So
RTE knows no one watches online so the advertisers won't lose
any viewers.
Well, they have adverts on the RTE Player too. It's a free
service so that's only to be expected.
On 2024-06-26 18:02:34 +0000, Blueshirt said:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0onj3ugwxjfmv002@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
It will depended on how far into the bargain basement the
BBC are willing to drop the price. They're not going to be
able to get enough to make a new series for this badly
written woke garbage that hates, despises, and totally
detests its male audience.
As I said, we'll know how happy Disney are with Doctor Who
when the time comes to renew their partnership with the BBC.
I can't say if they will or they wont, as I don't know what
they expected from the show. Especially as it is not on their
platform in the UK which would be Doctor Who's biggest
market!
But what is return on investment like?
That is the question, and only the Disney executives know the
answer.
If they do, then it would be the *only* thing the executives know. :-p
On 2024-06-26 18:26:47 +0000, Blueshirt said:
<snip>
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after it
was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
1974, no, but in 1976 you could ... if you were rich enough to buy the
then new-fangled home video recorder, and that would not have been
counted in the ridiculously meaningless 'ratings' nonsense. :-)
The True Doctor wrote:.... but, Blueshirt, you are NOT supposed to be doing that! You should
On 26/06/2024 14:28, Blueshirt wrote:
BARB produce 28 day figures and it's clear that TV
shows pick up viewers over a longer period than one week.
In the 1970's this couldn't happen. If Doctor Who was
on at 5:15 on Saturday and you missed it, then you missed
it! So you HAD to sit down on Saturday at 5:15 to watch it.
There was no other choice. In 2024, there is...
You're not fooling anyone. Gatwa's 7 day viewing figures are
worse than Whittaker's overnights. His 28 day figures are half
her 7 day figures. No one is watching or enjoying this woke
crap. The show has lost 4/5 of its audience.
I'm not trying to fool anyone, I am only telling you what I
think based on what I read.
Blueshirt wrote on 27/6/24 4:26 am:
The True Doctor wrote:.... but, Blueshirt, you are NOT supposed to be doing that! You should
On 26/06/2024 14:28, Blueshirt wrote:
BARB produce 28 day figures and it's clear that TV
shows pick up viewers over a longer period than one week.
In the 1970's this couldn't happen. If Doctor Who was
on at 5:15 on Saturday and you missed it, then you missed
it! So you HAD to sit down on Saturday at 5:15 to watch it.
There was no other choice. In 2024, there is...
You're not fooling anyone. Gatwa's 7 day viewing figures are
worse than Whittaker's overnights. His 28 day figures are half
her 7 day figures. No one is watching or enjoying this woke
crap. The show has lost 4/5 of its audience.
I'm not trying to fool anyone, I am only telling you what I
think based on what I read.
be "only telling you what I think based on what *Aggy tells you/us* ."
--
Daniel
On 2024-06-26 18:26:47 +0000, Blueshirt said:
<snip>
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after
it was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
1974, no, but in 1976 you could ... if you were rich enough to
buy the then new-fangled home video recorder, and that would
not have been counted in the ridiculously meaningless
'ratings' nonsense. :-)
In article <v5hkc1$28g15$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 26/06/2024 14:28, Blueshirt wrote:
Obsessing about overnight and short term ratings is not the
way the television industry is going. There seems to be a
bigger picture at play and the broadcasters seem to think
streaming is the way the younger generation consume their
TV shows now, and that's their target.
The younger generation don't watch anything. They're sick to
death of woke garbage being forced down their throats so
they play video games instead and soon they won't even play
those either after they've all started going woke.
There's more people watching classic episodes of Friends and
other stuff like that than are watching the badly written
woke shit plastered all over Disney+ and the BBC.
The Timeless Child is an albatross on Doctor Who.
Your Name wrote:
On 2024-06-26 18:26:47 +0000, Blueshirt said:
<snip>
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after
it was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
1974, no, but in 1976 you could ... if you were rich enough to
buy the then new-fangled home video recorder, and that would
not have been counted in the ridiculously meaningless
'ratings' nonsense. :-)
1976?! We just about had colour TV over here by then! :-)
I think the first Doctor Who episodes I recorded on to video
tape was during the Peter Davison era when I was living and
working in London. The other people in the house were watching
something on ITV that evening... and they all had absolutely
zero interest in Doctor Who.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <v5hkc1$28g15$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 26/06/2024 14:28, Blueshirt wrote:
Obsessing about overnight and short term ratings is not the
way the television industry is going. There seems to be a
bigger picture at play and the broadcasters seem to think
streaming is the way the younger generation consume their
TV shows now, and that's their target.
The younger generation don't watch anything. They're sick to
death of woke garbage being forced down their throats so
they play video games instead and soon they won't even play
those either after they've all started going woke.
There's more people watching classic episodes of Friends and
other stuff like that than are watching the badly written
woke shit plastered all over Disney+ and the BBC.
The Timeless Child is an albatross on Doctor Who.
Excellent contribution to the discussion as always...
The idiot insisted:
The Timeless Child is an albatross on Doctor Who.
An albatross? You mean it’s bad luck to destroy it?
In that case, Doctor Who should keep the Timeless Child and
not even try to retcon it!
--
solar penguin
In article <xn0onkfycy9pfb1003@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
The Timeless Child is an albatross on Doctor Who.
Excellent contribution to the discussion as always...
What is new with you?
The idiot insisted:
The Timeless Child is an albatross on Doctor Who.
An albatross? You mean it’s bad luck to destroy it?
In that case, Doctor Who should keep the Timeless Child and
not even try to retcon it!
In article <v5kjn6$2tng1$1@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
The idiot insisted:
The Timeless Child is an albatross on Doctor Who.
An albatross? You mean it’s bad luck to destroy it?
In that case, Doctor Who should keep the Timeless Child and
not even try to retcon it!
IT is good luck to destry the timeless child from Doctor Who.
Your Name wrote:
On 2024-06-26 18:26:47 +0000, Blueshirt said:
<snip>
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after
it was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
1974, no, but in 1976 you could ... if you were rich enough to
buy the then new-fangled home video recorder, and that would
not have been counted in the ridiculously meaningless
'ratings' nonsense. :-)
1976?! We just about had colour TV over here by then! :-)
solar penguin wrote:
The idiot insisted:
The Timeless Child is an albatross on Doctor Who.
An albatross? You mean it’s bad luck to destroy it?
In that case, Doctor Who should keep the Timeless Child and
not even try to retcon it!
Just as well that seems to be what RTD is going to do then!
Blueshirt wrote on 27/6/24 9:30 pm:
Your Name wrote:
On 2024-06-26 18:26:47 +0000, Blueshirt said:
<snip>
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after
it was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
1974, no, but in 1976 you could ... if you were rich enough to
buy the then new-fangled home video recorder, and that would
not have been counted in the ridiculously meaningless
'ratings' nonsense. :-)
1976?! We just about had colour TV over here by then! :-)
Yeap! I brought my Mum a Colour Portable T.V. for Christmas 1975!!
I brought a (BETA) VCR Late 1982.
--
Daniel
The idiot insisted:
In article <v5kjn6$2tng1$1@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
The idiot insisted:
The Timeless Child is an albatross on Doctor Who.
An albatross? You mean it’s bad luck to destroy it?
In that case, Doctor Who should keep the Timeless Child and
not even try to retcon it!
IT is good luck to destry the timeless child from Doctor Who.
So now you’re claiming it’s the exact opposite of an albatross?
In ‘The Ancient Mariner’ the albatross brings the ship good luck
until the mariner kills it, then the luck all turns bad.
Which is it? Make up your mind!
--
solar penguin
In article <xn0onlrey2dscs001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
solar penguin wrote:
The idiot insisted:
The Timeless Child is an albatross on Doctor Who.
An albatross? You mean it’s bad luck to destroy it?
In that case, Doctor Who should keep the Timeless Child and
not even try to retcon it!
Just as well that seems to be what RTD is going to do then!
And no one is happy.
The True Doctor wrote:
On 26/06/2024 14:28, Blueshirt wrote:
BARB produce 28 day figures and it's clear that TV
shows pick up viewers over a longer period than one week.
In the 1970's this couldn't happen. If Doctor Who was
on at 5:15 on Saturday and you missed it, then you missed
it! So you HAD to sit down on Saturday at 5:15 to watch it.
There was no other choice. In 2024, there is...
You're not fooling anyone. Gatwa's 7 day viewing figures are
worse than Whittaker's overnights. His 28 day figures are half
her 7 day figures. No one is watching or enjoying this woke
crap. The show has lost 4/5 of its audience.
I'm not trying to fool anyone, I am only telling you what I
think based on what I read. Nobody is saying the viewership of
Doctor Who hasn't gone down. Even RTD commenting on the viewing
figures said "they might not be the ratings we'd love. We always
want higher. But they are building over the 28-day period."
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after it
was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
It's only the people with agendas that are trying to fool people.
Just yesterday over here (and you can look it up) RTE
announced that from 2027 50% of it's new TV shows would be
'online first'. As in, the shows will be available for
streaming on the RTE Player before their transmission on RTE
1/RTE 2 ... and unlike
So RTE has figured out that no one watches anything online so
is using it as a marketing gimmick to pretend how up-to-date
it is.
I can't say... as until 'Season One' of Doctor Who I never
watched anything "online first".
BBC 1/2 they are both commercial TV channels with adverts! So
RTE knows no one watches online so the advertisers won't lose
any viewers.
Well, they have adverts on the RTE Player too. It's a free
service so that's only to be expected.
Blueshirt wrote on 27/6/24 9:30 pm:
Your Name wrote:
On 2024-06-26 18:26:47 +0000, Blueshirt said:
<snip>
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after
it was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
1974, no, but in 1976 you could ... if you were rich enough to
buy the then new-fangled home video recorder, and that would
not have been counted in the ridiculously meaningless
'ratings' nonsense. :-)
1976?! We just about had colour TV over here by then! :-)
Yeap! I brought my Mum a Colour Portable T.V. for Christmas 1975!!
I brought a (BETA) VCR Late 1982.
The idiot insisted:
In article <v5kjn6$2tng1$1@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
The idiot insisted:
The Timeless Child is an albatross on Doctor Who.
An albatross? You mean it’s bad luck to destroy it?
In that case, Doctor Who should keep the Timeless Child and
not even try to retcon it!
IT is good luck to destry the timeless child from Doctor Who.
So now you’re claiming it’s the exact opposite of an albatross?
In ‘The Ancient Mariner’ the albatross brings the ship good luck
until the mariner kills it, then the luck all turns bad.
Which is it? Make up your mind!
On 2024-06-28 12:46:10 +0000, solar penguin said:
The idiot insisted:
In article <v5kjn6$2tng1$1@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
The idiot insisted:
The Timeless Child is an albatross on Doctor Who.
An albatross? You mean it’s bad luck to destroy it?
In that case, Doctor Who should keep the Timeless Child and
not even try to retcon it!
IT is good luck to destry the timeless child from Doctor Who.
So now you’re claiming it’s the exact opposite of an albatross?
In ‘The Ancient Mariner’ the albatross brings the ship good luck
until the mariner kills it, then the luck all turns bad.
Which is it? Make up your mind!
The village idiot is alluding to the saying about having "an albatross
around your neck" ...
"The phrase albatross around my neck refers to
a heavy burden or some sort of curse that's
causing distress or stopping you from doing
something."
On 2024-06-28 13:04:41 +0000, Daniel70 said:
Blueshirt wrote on 27/6/24 9:30 pm:
Your Name wrote:
On 2024-06-26 18:26:47 +0000, Blueshirt said:
<snip>
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after
it was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
1974, no, but in 1976 you could ... if you were rich enough to
buy the then new-fangled home video recorder, and that would
not have been counted in the ridiculously meaningless
'ratings' nonsense. :-)
1976?! We just about had colour TV over here by then! :-)
Yeap! I brought my Mum a Colour Portable T.V. for Christmas 1975!!
I brought a (BETA) VCR Late 1982.
1976 was when the first consumer-level video recorder was released in
Japan, but they were expensive. :-)
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0onlrey2dscs001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
solar penguin wrote:
The idiot insisted:
The Timeless Child is an albatross on Doctor Who.
An albatross? You mean it’s bad luck to destroy it?
In that case, Doctor Who should keep the Timeless Child and
not even try to retcon it!
Just as well that seems to be what RTD is going to do then!
And no one is happy.
I thought you was happy? You were going on about RTD coming back
for ages... wasn't he supposedly the saviour? You've changed
your tune fairly quickly.
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 2024-06-28 12:46:10 +0000, solar penguin said:
The idiot insisted:
In article <v5kjn6$2tng1$1@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
The idiot insisted:
The Timeless Child is an albatross on Doctor Who.
An albatross? You mean it’s bad luck to destroy it?
In that case, Doctor Who should keep the Timeless Child and
not even try to retcon it!
IT is good luck to destry the timeless child from Doctor Who.
So now you’re claiming it’s the exact opposite of an albatross?
In ‘The Ancient Mariner’ the albatross brings the ship good luck
until the mariner kills it, then the luck all turns bad.
Which is it? Make up your mind!
The village idiot is alluding to the saying about having "an albatross
around your neck" ...
"The phrase albatross around my neck refers to
a heavy burden or some sort of curse that's
causing distress or stopping you from doing
something."
Yeah. The saying itself comes from the epic poem “The Rime of the Ancient >Mariner” by Samuel Taylor Coleridge. After the Mariner kills the albatross >that the crew believed was bringing them good luck, they hang it around his >neck to remind him of the curse that they think he has brought upon them.
--
“Most of the Universe is knackered, babes.” - The Doctor
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 2024-06-28 12:46:10 +0000, solar penguin said:
The idiot insisted:
In article <v5kjn6$2tng1$1@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
The idiot insisted:
The Timeless Child is an albatross on Doctor Who.
An albatross? You mean it’s bad luck to destroy it?
In that case, Doctor Who should keep the Timeless Child and
not even try to retcon it!
IT is good luck to destry the timeless child from Doctor Who.
So now you’re claiming it’s the exact opposite of an albatross?
In ‘The Ancient Mariner’ the albatross brings the ship good luck
until the mariner kills it, then the luck all turns bad.
Which is it? Make up your mind!
The village idiot is alluding to the saying about having "an albatross
around your neck" ...
"The phrase albatross around my neck refers to
a heavy burden or some sort of curse that's
causing distress or stopping you from doing
something."
Yeah. The saying itself comes from the epic poem “The Rime of the Ancient Mariner” by Samuel Taylor Coleridge. After the Mariner kills the albatross that the crew believed was bringing them good luck, they hang it around his neck to remind him of the curse that they think he has brought upon them.
On 2024-06-28 23:41:41 +0000, The Last Doctor said:
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 2024-06-28 12:46:10 +0000, solar penguin said:
The idiot insisted:
In article <v5kjn6$2tng1$1@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
The idiot insisted:
The Timeless Child is an albatross on Doctor Who.
An albatross? You mean it’s bad luck to destroy it?
In that case, Doctor Who should keep the Timeless Child and
not even try to retcon it!
IT is good luck to destry the timeless child from Doctor Who.
So now you’re claiming it’s the exact opposite of an albatross?
In ‘The Ancient Mariner’ the albatross brings the ship good luck
until the mariner kills it, then the luck all turns bad.
Which is it? Make up your mind!
The village idiot is alluding to the saying about having "an albatross
around your neck" ...
"The phrase albatross around my neck refers to
a heavy burden or some sort of curse that's
causing distress or stopping you from doing
something."
Yeah. The saying itself comes from the epic poem “The Rime of the Ancient >> Mariner” by Samuel Taylor Coleridge. After the Mariner kills the albatross >> that the crew believed was bringing them good luck, they hang it around his >> neck to remind him of the curse that they think he has brought upon them.
So apparently The Timeless Child is the albatross around the neck of
Doctor Who ... a burden / curse that is stopping it from being the good
show it was before that.
Realistically, the "albatross" is all the Politically Correct idiocy,
but that infests most of the planet these days and is the albatross
around the neck of all normal, sensible people. :-(
Daniel declared:
The Doctor wrote on 28/6/24 1:49 pm:
IT is good luck to destry the timeless child from Doctor Who.
.... but FIRST we'd need to know what 'destry' means!!
It’s someone who rides again.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/DestryRidesAgain
On 2024-06-28 13:04:41 +0000, Daniel70 said:
Blueshirt wrote on 27/6/24 9:30 pm:
Your Name wrote:
On 2024-06-26 18:26:47 +0000, Blueshirt said:
<snip>
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after
it was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
1974, no, but in 1976 you could ... if you were rich enough to
buy the then new-fangled home video recorder, and that would
not have been counted in the ridiculously meaningless
'ratings' nonsense. :-)
1976?! We just about had colour TV over here by then! :-)
Yeap! I brought my Mum a Colour Portable T.V. for Christmas 1975!!
I brought a (BETA) VCR Late 1982.
1976 was when the first consumer-level video recorder was released in
Japan, but they were expensive. :-)
The idiot insisted:
In article <v5kjn6$2tng1$1@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
The idiot insisted:
The Timeless Child is an albatross on Doctor Who.
An albatross? You mean it’s bad luck to destroy it?
In that case, Doctor Who should keep the Timeless Child and
not even try to retcon it!
IT is good luck to destry the timeless child from Doctor Who.
So now you’re claiming it’s the exact opposite of an albatross?
In ‘The Ancient Mariner’ the albatross brings the ship good luck
until the mariner kills it, then the luck all turns bad.
Which is it? Make up your mind!
solar penguin wrote on 28/6/24 10:46 pm:
The idiot insisted:WHAT?? You expect Gobble-de-gook to make a decision! Really?? ;-P
In article <v5kjn6$2tng1$1@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
The idiot insisted:
The Timeless Child is an albatross on Doctor Who.
An albatross? You mean it’s bad luck to destroy it?
In that case, Doctor Who should keep the Timeless Child and
not even try to retcon it!
IT is good luck to destry the timeless child from Doctor Who.
So now you’re claiming it’s the exact opposite of an albatross?
In ‘The Ancient Mariner’ the albatross brings the ship good luck
until the mariner kills it, then the luck all turns bad.
Which is it? Make up your mind!
--
Daniel
Your Name wrote on 29/6/24 9:19 am:
On 2024-06-28 13:04:41 +0000, Daniel70 said:I finished my Electronics Apprenticeship late 1976, so dollars would
Blueshirt wrote on 27/6/24 9:30 pm:
Your Name wrote:
On 2024-06-26 18:26:47 +0000, Blueshirt said:
<snip>
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after
it was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
1974, no, but in 1976 you could ... if you were rich enough to
buy the then new-fangled home video recorder, and that would
not have been counted in the ridiculously meaningless
'ratings' nonsense. :-)
1976?! We just about had colour TV over here by then! :-)
Yeap! I brought my Mum a Colour Portable T.V. for Christmas 1975!!
I brought a (BETA) VCR Late 1982.
1976 was when the first consumer-level video recorder was released in
Japan, but they were expensive. :-)
have been tight at that time!!
--
Daniel
On 26/06/2024 19:26, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
You're not fooling anyone. Gatwa's 7 day viewing figures
are worse than Whittaker's overnights. His 28 day figures
are half her 7 day figures. No one is watching or enjoying
this woke crap. The show has lost 4/5 of its audience.
I'm not trying to fool anyone, I am only telling you what I
think based on what I read. Nobody is saying the viewership
of Doctor Who hasn't gone down. Even RTD commenting on the
viewing figures said "they might not be the ratings we'd
love. We always want higher. But they are building over the
28-day period."
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after
it was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
It's the same people watching twice.
The woke pervert RTD can now boast to writing the lowest
rating episode of all time, The Legend of Ruby Sunday, which
could only manage 2.02 million viewers overnight and 3.05
million consolidated, lower than even episode 1 of Battlefield
even not counting the 2 or 3 times I watched it again after I
taped it on VHS.
It's only the people with agendas that are trying to fool
people.
Like the shithead RTD. Battlefield was worth watching more
than once. None of RTDs woke crap is.
RTE knows no one watches online so the advertisers won't
lose any viewers.
Well, they have adverts on the RTE Player too. It's a free
service so that's only to be expected.
The advertisers will not be happy then.
The True Doctor wrote:
On 26/06/2024 19:26, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
You're not fooling anyone. Gatwa's 7 day viewing figures
are worse than Whittaker's overnights. His 28 day figures
are half her 7 day figures. No one is watching or enjoying
this woke crap. The show has lost 4/5 of its audience.
I'm not trying to fool anyone, I am only telling you what I
think based on what I read. Nobody is saying the viewership
of Doctor Who hasn't gone down. Even RTD commenting on the
viewing figures said "they might not be the ratings we'd
love. We always want higher. But they are building over the
28-day period."
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after
it was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
It's the same people watching twice.
Either nobody is watching or they are watching it twice... make
your mind up!
The woke pervert RTD can now boast to writing the lowest
rating episode of all time, The Legend of Ruby Sunday, which
could only manage 2.02 million viewers overnight and 3.05
million consolidated, lower than even episode 1 of Battlefield
even not counting the 2 or 3 times I watched it again after I
taped it on VHS.
As people have said, the base viewing figures are
disappointing... and RTD even said himself that he'd have liked
to have seen them higher. But if the BBC are happy enough with
what they are seeing from the figures over a certain period of
time, why are you getting over excited about them? You've done
your bit for the ratings by watching the episodes, so Bad Wolf &
BBC Studios thank you for your support
But, you are supposedly a Doctor Who fan, so do you want the
show to survive or be cancelled?
It's only the people with agendas that are trying to fool
people.
Like the shithead RTD. Battlefield was worth watching more
than once. None of RTDs woke crap is.
There are better examples than "Battlefield"! It is one of the
lowest rated Doctor Who episodes for a reason.
RTE knows no one watches online so the advertisers won't
lose any viewers.
Well, they have adverts on the RTE Player too. It's a free
service so that's only to be expected.
The advertisers will not be happy then.
I dunno, there's enough of them on the RTE Player so the
advertisers must be seeing some sort of return...
Non-skippable adverts... is there anything more evil in this
world?!
The True Doctor wrote:
On 26/06/2024 19:26, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
You're not fooling anyone. Gatwa's 7 day viewing figures
are worse than Whittaker's overnights. His 28 day figures
are half her 7 day figures. No one is watching or enjoying
this woke crap. The show has lost 4/5 of its audience.
I'm not trying to fool anyone, I am only telling you what I
think based on what I read. Nobody is saying the viewership
of Doctor Who hasn't gone down. Even RTD commenting on the
viewing figures said "they might not be the ratings we'd
love. We always want higher. But they are building over the
28-day period."
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after
it was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
It's the same people watching twice.
Either nobody is watching or they are watching it twice... make
your mind up!
The woke pervert RTD can now boast to writing the lowest
rating episode of all time, The Legend of Ruby Sunday, which
could only manage 2.02 million viewers overnight and 3.05
million consolidated, lower than even episode 1 of Battlefield
even not counting the 2 or 3 times I watched it again after I
taped it on VHS.
As people have said, the base viewing figures are
disappointing... and RTD even said himself that he'd have liked
to have seen them higher. But if the BBC are happy enough with
what they are seeing from the figures over a certain period of
time, why are you getting over excited about them? You've done
your bit for the ratings by watching the episodes, so Bad Wolf &
BBC Studios thank you for your support
But, you are supposedly a Doctor Who fan, so do you want the
show to survive or be cancelled?
It's only the people with agendas that are trying to fool
people.
Like the shithead RTD. Battlefield was worth watching more
than once. None of RTDs woke crap is.
There are better examples than "Battlefield"! It is one of the
lowest rated Doctor Who episodes for a reason.
RTE knows no one watches online so the advertisers won't
lose any viewers.
Well, they have adverts on the RTE Player too. It's a free
service so that's only to be expected.
The advertisers will not be happy then.
I dunno, there's enough of them on the RTE Player so the
advertisers must be seeing some sort of return...
Non-skippable adverts... is there anything more evil in this
world?!
On 2024-06-29 15:30:16 +0000, Blueshirt said:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 26/06/2024 19:26, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
You're not fooling anyone. Gatwa's 7 day viewing figures
are worse than Whittaker's overnights. His 28 day figures
are half her 7 day figures. No one is watching or enjoying
this woke crap. The show has lost 4/5 of its audience.
I'm not trying to fool anyone, I am only telling you what I
think based on what I read. Nobody is saying the viewership
of Doctor Who hasn't gone down. Even RTD commenting on the
viewing figures said "they might not be the ratings we'd
love. We always want higher. But they are building over the
28-day period."
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after
it was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
It's the same people watching twice.
Either nobody is watching or they are watching it twice... make
your mind up!
The woke pervert RTD can now boast to writing the lowest
rating episode of all time, The Legend of Ruby Sunday, which
could only manage 2.02 million viewers overnight and 3.05
million consolidated, lower than even episode 1 of Battlefield
even not counting the 2 or 3 times I watched it again after I
taped it on VHS.
As people have said, the base viewing figures are
disappointing... and RTD even said himself that he'd have liked
to have seen them higher. But if the BBC are happy enough with
what they are seeing from the figures over a certain period of
time, why are you getting over excited about them? You've done
your bit for the ratings by watching the episodes, so Bad Wolf &
BBC Studios thank you for your support
But, you are supposedly a Doctor Who fan, so do you want the
show to survive or be cancelled?
It's only the people with agendas that are trying to fool
people.
Like the shithead RTD. Battlefield was worth watching more
than once. None of RTDs woke crap is.
There are better examples than "Battlefield"! It is one of the
lowest rated Doctor Who episodes for a reason.
RTE knows no one watches online so the advertisers won't
lose any viewers.
Well, they have adverts on the RTE Player too. It's a free
service so that's only to be expected.
The advertisers will not be happy then.
I dunno, there's enough of them on the RTE Player so the
advertisers must be seeing some sort of return...
Non-skippable adverts... is there anything more evil in this
world?!
Ad-blocker apps are great. :-)
Although the cretins at YouTube keep trying to have their adverts not blocked.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <v5q348$4riu$1@dont-email.me>,i sent ads back to all my ads
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 2024-06-29 15:30:16 +0000, Blueshirt said:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 26/06/2024 19:26, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
You're not fooling anyone. Gatwa's 7 day viewing figures
are worse than Whittaker's overnights. His 28 day figures
are half her 7 day figures. No one is watching or enjoying
this woke crap. The show has lost 4/5 of its audience.
I'm not trying to fool anyone, I am only telling you what I
think based on what I read. Nobody is saying the viewership
of Doctor Who hasn't gone down. Even RTD commenting on the
viewing figures said "they might not be the ratings we'd
love. We always want higher. But they are building over the
28-day period."
You couldn't watch new episodes of Doctor Who 28 days after
it was broadcast on BBC1 in 1974, you can now.
It's the same people watching twice.
Either nobody is watching or they are watching it twice... make
your mind up!
The woke pervert RTD can now boast to writing the lowest
rating episode of all time, The Legend of Ruby Sunday, which
could only manage 2.02 million viewers overnight and 3.05
million consolidated, lower than even episode 1 of Battlefield
even not counting the 2 or 3 times I watched it again after I
taped it on VHS.
As people have said, the base viewing figures are
disappointing... and RTD even said himself that he'd have liked
to have seen them higher. But if the BBC are happy enough with
what they are seeing from the figures over a certain period of
time, why are you getting over excited about them? You've done
your bit for the ratings by watching the episodes, so Bad Wolf &
BBC Studios thank you for your support
But, you are supposedly a Doctor Who fan, so do you want the
show to survive or be cancelled?
It's only the people with agendas that are trying to fool
people.
Like the shithead RTD. Battlefield was worth watching more
than once. None of RTDs woke crap is.
There are better examples than "Battlefield"! It is one of the
lowest rated Doctor Who episodes for a reason.
RTE knows no one watches online so the advertisers won't
lose any viewers.
Well, they have adverts on the RTE Player too. It's a free
service so that's only to be expected.
The advertisers will not be happy then.
I dunno, there's enough of them on the RTE Player so the
advertisers must be seeing some sort of return...
Non-skippable adverts... is there anything more evil in this
world?!
Ad-blocker apps are great. :-)
Although the cretins at YouTube keep trying to have their adverts not >blocked.
Suck!!
On 2024-06-29 15:30:16 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Non-skippable adverts... is there anything more evil in this
world?!
Ad-blocker apps are great. :-)
Although the cretins at YouTube keep trying to have their
adverts not blocked.
On 29/06/2024 16:30, Blueshirt wrote:
As people have said, the base viewing figures are
disappointing... and RTD even said himself that he'd have
liked to have seen them higher. But if the BBC are happy
enough with what they are seeing from the figures over a
certain period of time, why are you getting over excited
about them? You've done your bit for the ratings by watching
the episodes, so Bad Wolf & BBC Studios thank you for your
support
I don't work for BARB so I count for nothing.
But, you are supposedly a Doctor Who fan, so do you want the
show to survive or be cancelled?
I'm a Doctor Who fan, not a Doctor Whoke fan. The sooner
Doctor Whoke is cancelled the better for all Doctor Who fans.
There are better examples than "Battlefield"! It is one of
the lowest rated Doctor Who episodes for a reason.
Battlefield episode 1 WAS the lowest rated episode in history.
It's infinitely more watchable than RTD's woke shit.
I dunno, there's enough of them on the RTE Player so the
advertisers must be seeing some sort of return...
I don't think so. Woke retards don't buy anything. They're not
consumers. They're Marxist anti-capitalist activists.
Non-skippable adverts... is there anything more evil in this
world?!
All adverts can be skipped.
Get yourself an add blocker.
Your Name wrote:
On 2024-06-29 15:30:16 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Non-skippable adverts... is there anything more evil in this
world?!
Ad-blocker apps are great. :-)
Although the cretins at YouTube keep trying to have their
adverts not blocked.
Welcome to the future!
In Google's case advertising is what providing all those 'free'
services to people is all about... so I'm sure they have a
department in Mountain View that is doing its very best to spoil
everyone's free ad-free viewing experience.
The True Doctor wrote:
On 29/06/2024 16:30, Blueshirt wrote:
As people have said, the base viewing figures are
disappointing... and RTD even said himself that he'd have
liked to have seen them higher. But if the BBC are happy
enough with what they are seeing from the figures over a
certain period of time, why are you getting over excited
about them? You've done your bit for the ratings by watching
the episodes, so Bad Wolf & BBC Studios thank you for your
support
I don't work for BARB so I count for nothing.
You can say that again!
But, you are supposedly a Doctor Who fan, so do you want the
show to survive or be cancelled?
I'm a Doctor Who fan, not a Doctor Whoke fan. The sooner
Doctor Whoke is cancelled the better for all Doctor Who fans.
What then? Fuck everyone else, I don't like "Doctor Who" so
nobody else can watch it? Cancel it! Isn't that what you claim
the "woke brigade" do, cancel things that they don't like? So
how are you different from them?
That just shows you are a selfish self-entitled fan.
The simplest solution for you if you don't like "Doctor Who" in
2024 is just switch off.
There are better examples than "Battlefield"! It is one of
the lowest rated Doctor Who episodes for a reason.
Battlefield episode 1 WAS the lowest rated episode in history.
It's infinitely more watchable than RTD's woke shit.
Steady on old chap... no need to be so extreme!
I dunno, there's enough of them on the RTE Player so the
advertisers must be seeing some sort of return...
I don't think so. Woke retards don't buy anything. They're not
consumers. They're Marxist anti-capitalist activists.
In your world maybe, but the whole world are not "woke retards".
Logic says if companies keep paying for their adverts to be
carried on streaming platforms then they must have some data
that says it will be beneficial to them.
Non-skippable adverts... is there anything more evil in this
world?!
All adverts can be skipped.
Not 100% true... although if all you ever use to watch TV shows
is a web browser on a PC then you've probably got a better
chance of doing so, but the Disney's and Google's of this world
are doing their very best to combat these types of browser
extensions or limit their effectiveness.
Get yourself an add blocker.
I have uBlock Origin, which works 98% of the time... and Nord
VPN's 'threat protection' is also very good for ads on the US
streaming sites... but these big companies are not going down
without a fight.
On 2024-06-29 15:30:16 +0000, Blueshirt said:
I dunno, there's enough of them on the RTE Player so the
advertisers must be seeing some sort of return...
Non-skippable adverts... is there anything more evil in this
world?!
Ad-blocker apps are great. :-)
Although the cretins at YouTube keep trying to have their adverts not blocked.
The True Doctor wrote:
On 29/06/2024 16:30, Blueshirt wrote:
As people have said, the base viewing figures are
disappointing... and RTD even said himself that he'd have
liked to have seen them higher. But if the BBC are happy
enough with what they are seeing from the figures over a
certain period of time, why are you getting over excited
about them? You've done your bit for the ratings by watching
the episodes, so Bad Wolf & BBC Studios thank you for your
support
I don't work for BARB so I count for nothing.
You can say that again!
But, you are supposedly a Doctor Who fan, so do you want the
show to survive or be cancelled?
I'm a Doctor Who fan, not a Doctor Whoke fan. The sooner
Doctor Whoke is cancelled the better for all Doctor Who fans.
What then? Fuck everyone else, I don't like "Doctor Who" so
nobody else can watch it? Cancel it! Isn't that what you claim
the "woke brigade" do, cancel things that they don't like? So
how are you different from them?
That just shows you are a selfish self-entitled fan.
The simplest solution for you if you don't like "Doctor Who" in
2024 is just switch off.
There are better examples than "Battlefield"! It is one of
the lowest rated Doctor Who episodes for a reason.
Battlefield episode 1 WAS the lowest rated episode in history.
It's infinitely more watchable than RTD's woke shit.
Steady on old chap... no need to be so extreme!
I dunno, there's enough of them on the RTE Player so the
advertisers must be seeing some sort of return...
I don't think so. Woke retards don't buy anything. They're not
consumers. They're Marxist anti-capitalist activists.
In your world maybe, but the whole world are not "woke retards".
Logic says if companies keep paying for their adverts to be
carried on streaming platforms then they must have some data
that says it will be beneficial to them.
Non-skippable adverts... is there anything more evil in this
world?!
All adverts can be skipped.
Not 100% true... although if all you ever use to watch TV shows
is a web browser on a PC then you've probably got a better
chance of doing so, but the Disney's and Google's of this world
are doing their very best to combat these types of browser
extensions or limit their effectiveness.
Get yourself an add blocker.
I have uBlock Origin, which works 98% of the time... and Nord
VPN's 'threat protection' is also very good for ads on the US
streaming sites... but these big companies are not going down
without a fight.
The True Doctor wrote:
On 29/06/2024 16:30, Blueshirt wrote:
As people have said, the base viewing figures are
disappointing... and RTD even said himself that he'd have
liked to have seen them higher. But if the BBC are happy
enough with what they are seeing from the figures over a
certain period of time, why are you getting over excited
about them? You've done your bit for the ratings by watching
the episodes, so Bad Wolf & BBC Studios thank you for your
support
I don't work for BARB so I count for nothing.
You can say that again!
But, you are supposedly a Doctor Who fan, so do you want the
show to survive or be cancelled?
I'm a Doctor Who fan, not a Doctor Whoke fan. The sooner
Doctor Whoke is cancelled the better for all Doctor Who fans.
What then? Fuck everyone else, I don't like "Doctor Who" so
nobody else can watch it? Cancel it! Isn't that what you claim
the "woke brigade" do, cancel things that they don't like? So
how are you different from them?
That just shows you are a selfish self-entitled fan.
The simplest solution for you if you don't like "Doctor Who" in
2024 is just switch off.
There are better examples than "Battlefield"! It is one of
the lowest rated Doctor Who episodes for a reason.
Battlefield episode 1 WAS the lowest rated episode in history.
It's infinitely more watchable than RTD's woke shit.
Steady on old chap... no need to be so extreme!
I dunno, there's enough of them on the RTE Player so the
advertisers must be seeing some sort of return...
I don't think so. Woke retards don't buy anything. They're not
consumers. They're Marxist anti-capitalist activists.
In your world maybe, but the whole world are not "woke retards".
Logic says if companies keep paying for their adverts to be
carried on streaming platforms then they must have some data
that says it will be beneficial to them.
Non-skippable adverts... is there anything more evil in this
world?!
All adverts can be skipped.
Not 100% true... although if all you ever use to watch TV shows
is a web browser on a PC then you've probably got a better
chance of doing so, but the Disney's and Google's of this world
are doing their very best to combat these types of browser
extensions or limit their effectiveness.
Get yourself an add blocker.
I have uBlock Origin, which works 98% of the time... and Nord
VPN's 'threat protection' is also very good for ads on the US
streaming sites... but these big companies are not going down
without a fight.
On 29/06/2024 23:50, Your Name wrote:
On 2024-06-29 15:30:16 +0000, Blueshirt said:
I dunno, there's enough of them on the RTE Player so the
advertisers must be seeing some sort of return...
Non-skippable adverts... is there anything more evil in this
world?!
Ad-blocker apps are great. :-)
Although the cretins at YouTube keep trying to have their adverts not
blocked.
Use uBlock Origin in Edge or Firefox. Don't use Chrome since Google
controls it entirely.
--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 379 |
| Nodes: | 16 (0 / 16) |
| Uptime: | 85:14:51 |
| Calls: | 8,091 |
| Files: | 13,069 |
| Messages: | 5,849,060 |