• Doctor Who: S1 Ep.8 Empire of Death

    From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 23 11:11:15 2024
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    Well, that was a bit of a let-down...

    Everyone dies... then they don't.

    The powerful God of Death is defeated in five minutes... by a
    spoon and tow rope!

    Bringing death to death = Life. (Huh?)

    Ruby finds her mother... and she's normal!!! (Well, there's
    always a twist at the end, right?)

    Ruby says goodbye... but appears in a 'Sneak Peek' for a future
    episode in last night's "Doctor Who:Unleashed".

    Mrs Flood breaks the Fourth Wall, again.

    All in all, a typical RTD season finale. Nothing makes a lot of
    sense and the big bad is defeated very quickly after a big build
    up, leaving more time for family chit-chat and tearful emotional
    goodbyes of course.

    Thankfully, based on previous experience my expectations weren't
    too high for this episode... just as well, as for me it's RTD's
    worst season finale! I could say a lot more, good and bad, but
    it's "Doctor Who" not a science documentary. It looked good, and
    Ncuti was on top form, but think about the plot too much and
    you'll be scratching your head for the rest of the day.

    Clearly there are still questions left to be answered after this
    season... Mrs Flood, the snow (etc.) plus we all know Ruby's
    story hasn't been fully told yet...

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes and I
    will amend them at some stage now that I can view S1/S14 as a
    whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of Death" gets a 5/10
    from me.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Jun 23 12:17:08 2024
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    In article <xn0onereisgshk2000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Well, that was a bit of a let-down...

    Everyone dies... then they don't.

    The powerful God of Death is defeated in five minutes... by a
    spoon and tow rope!

    Bringing death to death = Life. (Huh?)

    Ruby finds her mother... and she's normal!!! (Well, there's
    always a twist at the end, right?)

    Ruby says goodbye... but appears in a 'Sneak Peek' for a future
    episode in last night's "Doctor Who:Unleashed".

    Mrs Flood breaks the Fourth Wall, again.

    All in all, a typical RTD season finale. Nothing makes a lot of
    sense and the big bad is defeated very quickly after a big build
    up, leaving more time for family chit-chat and tearful emotional
    goodbyes of course.

    Thankfully, based on previous experience my expectations weren't
    too high for this episode... just as well, as for me it's RTD's
    worst season finale! I could say a lot more, good and bad, but
    it's "Doctor Who" not a science documentary. It looked good, and
    Ncuti was on top form, but think about the plot too much and
    you'll be scratching your head for the rest of the day.

    Clearly there are still questions left to be answered after this
    season... Mrs Flood, the snow (etc.) plus we all know Ruby's
    story hasn't been fully told yet...

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes and I
    will amend them at some stage now that I can view S1/S14 as a
    whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of Death" gets a 5/10
    from me.

    So out of 10 ?

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sun Jun 23 13:21:15 2024
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    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0onereisgshk2000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Well, that was a bit of a let-down...

    Everyone dies... then they don't.

    The powerful God of Death is defeated in five minutes... by a
    spoon and tow rope!

    Bringing death to death = Life. (Huh?)

    Ruby finds her mother... and she's normal!!! (Well, there's
    always a twist at the end, right?)

    Ruby says goodbye... but appears in a 'Sneak Peek' for a
    future episode in last night's "Doctor Who:Unleashed".

    Mrs Flood breaks the Fourth Wall, again.

    All in all, a typical RTD season finale. Nothing makes a lot
    of sense and the big bad is defeated very quickly after a
    big build up, leaving more time for family chit-chat and
    tearful emotional goodbyes of course.

    Thankfully, based on previous experience my expectations
    weren't too high for this episode... just as well, as for me
    it's RTD's worst season finale! I could say a lot more, good
    and bad, but it's "Doctor Who" not a science documentary. It
    looked good, and Ncuti was on top form, but think about the
    plot too much and you'll be scratching your head for the
    rest of the day.

    Clearly there are still questions left to be answered after
    this season... Mrs Flood, the snow (etc.) plus we all know
    Ruby's story hasn't been fully told yet...

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes
    and I will amend them at some stage now that I can view
    S1/S14 as a whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of
    Death" gets a 5/10 from me.

    So out of 10 ?

    Read what I typed again... s.l.o.w.l.y.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to solar.penguin@gmail.com on Sun Jun 23 12:33:40 2024
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    In article <v593sv$b8ho$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    The idiot inquired:

    In article <xn0onereisgshk2000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes and I
    will amend them at some stage now that I can view S1/S14 as a
    whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of Death" gets a 5/10
    from me.

    So out of 10 ?


    It’s there in the quoted text above. Did you even read the post
    before replying?

    --
    solar penguin

    so -1.5+5+7+7+8 gives us 25.5

    thus 5.1 /10


    Still looking for the SP score and MM score.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Jun 23 12:34:10 2024
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    In article <xn0oneuufslhg2z000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0onereisgshk2000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Well, that was a bit of a let-down...

    Everyone dies... then they don't.

    The powerful God of Death is defeated in five minutes... by a
    spoon and tow rope!

    Bringing death to death = Life. (Huh?)

    Ruby finds her mother... and she's normal!!! (Well, there's
    always a twist at the end, right?)

    Ruby says goodbye... but appears in a 'Sneak Peek' for a
    future episode in last night's "Doctor Who:Unleashed".

    Mrs Flood breaks the Fourth Wall, again.

    All in all, a typical RTD season finale. Nothing makes a lot
    of sense and the big bad is defeated very quickly after a
    big build up, leaving more time for family chit-chat and
    tearful emotional goodbyes of course.

    Thankfully, based on previous experience my expectations
    weren't too high for this episode... just as well, as for me
    it's RTD's worst season finale! I could say a lot more, good
    and bad, but it's "Doctor Who" not a science documentary. It
    looked good, and Ncuti was on top form, but think about the
    plot too much and you'll be scratching your head for the
    rest of the day.

    Clearly there are still questions left to be answered after
    this season... Mrs Flood, the snow (etc.) plus we all know
    Ruby's story hasn't been fully told yet...

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes
    and I will amend them at some stage now that I can view
    S1/S14 as a whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of
    Death" gets a 5/10 from me.

    So out of 10 ?

    Read what I typed again... s.l.o.w.l.y.

    Put is in an isloated sentence.
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sun Jun 23 13:37:51 2024
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    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0oneuufslhg2z000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Clearly there are still questions left to be answered
    after this season... Mrs Flood, the snow (etc.) plus we
    all know Ruby's story hasn't been fully told yet...

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes
    and I will amend them at some stage now that I can view
    S1/S14 as a whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of
    Death" gets a 5/10 from me.

    So out of 10 ?

    Read what I typed again... s.l.o.w.l.y.

    Put is in an isloated sentence.

    No, because I'm not pandering to simpletons who lack
    comprehension skills...

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  • From The Last Doctor@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sun Jun 23 12:39:30 2024
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    The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    In article <v593sv$b8ho$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    The idiot inquired:

    In article <xn0onereisgshk2000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes and I
    will amend them at some stage now that I can view S1/S14 as a
    whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of Death" gets a 5/10
    from me.

    So out of 10 ?


    It’s there in the quoted text above. Did you even read the post
    before replying?

    --
    solar penguin

    so -1.5+5+7+7+8 gives us 25.5

    thus 5.1 /10


    Still looking for the SP score and MM score.

    Try reading posts before you reply to them then.

    In my first thoughts post I wrote :

    “— “Goodbye, Ruby … Sunday?” —

    And so we come to the end of 15’s first season. (And, of course, it’s not goodbye to Ruby at all - but she may drop to recurring next season. We’ll see.)

    The finale was headed for greatness but took some shoddy, irrational paths
    to get to its ending and the reset fix was a cheap cheat. That said, it was still entertaining, well directed and oozed production quality. 6/10 overall.”

    --
    “Most of the Universe is knackered, babes.” - The Doctor

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Jun 23 13:01:01 2024
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    In article <xn0onev8zsm2jfc003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0oneuufslhg2z000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Clearly there are still questions left to be answered
    after this season... Mrs Flood, the snow (etc.) plus we
    all know Ruby's story hasn't been fully told yet...

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes
    and I will amend them at some stage now that I can view
    S1/S14 as a whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of
    Death" gets a 5/10 from me.

    So out of 10 ?

    Read what I typed again... s.l.o.w.l.y.

    Put is in an isloated sentence.

    No, because I'm not pandering to simpletons who lack
    comprehension skills...

    I make mine clear and simple.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to mike@xenocyte.com on Sun Jun 23 13:01:57 2024
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    In article <v59522$beoo$1@dont-email.me>,
    The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
    The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    In article <v593sv$b8ho$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    The idiot inquired:

    In article <xn0onereisgshk2000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes and I
    will amend them at some stage now that I can view S1/S14 as a
    whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of Death" gets a 5/10
    from me.

    So out of 10 ?


    It’s there in the quoted text above. Did you even read the post
    before replying?

    --
    solar penguin

    so -1.5+5+7+7+8 gives us 25.5

    thus 5.1 /10


    Still looking for the SP score and MM score.

    Try reading posts before you reply to them then.

    In my first thoughts post I wrote :

    “— “Goodbye, Ruby … Sunday?” —

    And so we come to the end of 15’s first season. (And, of course, it’s not >goodbye to Ruby at all - but she may drop to recurring next season. We’ll >see.)

    The finale was headed for greatness but took some shoddy, irrational paths
    to get to its ending and the reset fix was a cheap cheat. That said, it was >still entertaining, well directed and oozed production quality. 6/10 >overall.”

    --
    “Most of the Universe is knackered, babes.” - The Doctor

    25.5+6 -> 31.5/6

    5.25

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  • From Hornplayer9599@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Jun 23 08:57:49 2024
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    On 6/23/2024 07:37, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0oneuufslhg2z000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Clearly there are still questions left to be answered
    after this season... Mrs Flood, the snow (etc.) plus we
    all know Ruby's story hasn't been fully told yet...

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes
    and I will amend them at some stage now that I can view
    S1/S14 as a whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of
    Death" gets a 5/10 from me.

    So out of 10 ?

    Read what I typed again... s.l.o.w.l.y.

    Put is in an isloated sentence.

    You supposedly are intelligent, Dave. You don't need anyone to format
    their posts as if they were written to be included in a McGuffy Reader.



    No, because I'm not pandering to simpletons who lack
    comprehension skills...

    --

    Intelligence is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
    --Carl Sagan

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sun Jun 23 17:07:09 2024
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    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0onev8zsm2jfc003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0oneuufslhg2z000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of
    episodes and I will amend them at some stage now that
    I can view S1/S14 as a whole... so bearing in mind
    that, "Empire of Death" gets a 5/10 from me.

    So out of 10 ?

    Read what I typed again... s.l.o.w.l.y.

    Put is in an isloated sentence.

    No, because I'm not pandering to simpletons who lack
    comprehension skills...

    I make mine clear and simple.

    WHAT?!!!!

    <shocked face>

    <then falls off chair>

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  • From Mickmane@21:1/5 to blueshirt@indigo.news on Sun Jun 23 18:21:00 2024
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    On 23.06.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Well, that was a bit of a let-down...

    Yup.

    Everyone dies... then they don't.

    That it would be undone was clear the moment Donna's daughter was turned
    to dust.

    The powerful God of Death is defeated in five minutes... by a
    spoon and tow rope!

    When the Doctor held up the spoon saying he'd defeat Sutekh with it, I
    was reminded of Riddick killing someone with a teacup.

    And what's with the Doctor and his stupid announcements/speeches? He's
    still missing the brilliant part. And the energy, urgency.

    Bringing death to death = Life. (Huh?)

    I can even follow that reasoning.

    Ruby finds her mother... and she's normal!!! (Well, there's
    always a twist at the end, right?)

    Lame though. And what about the snow? They forgot about that.

    And the explanation for the pointing made no sense at all.

    Ruby says goodbye... but appears in a 'Sneak Peek' for a future
    episode in last night's "Doctor Who:Unleashed".

    I like Ruby.

    Mrs Flood breaks the Fourth Wall, again.

    She said the Doctor is a clever boy. So she's Clara, but didn't
    recognize the TARDIS on sight?

    Didn't the Doctor forget about Clara, or Clara about the Doctor, or
    something? Didn't she whizz off with someone in someone else's TARDIS?

    All in all, a typical RTD season finale. Nothing makes a lot of
    sense and the big bad is defeated very quickly after a big build
    up, leaving more time for family chit-chat and tearful emotional
    goodbyes of course.

    Didn't seem typical. But yea, nothing makes much sense.

    Clearly there are still questions left to be answered after this
    season... Mrs Flood, the snow (etc.) plus we all know Ruby's
    story hasn't been fully told yet...

    What's there beside the snow?

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes and I
    will amend them at some stage now that I can view S1/S14 as a
    whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of Death" gets a 5/10
    from me.

    Yeah, 5/10, I agree.

    --

    Mickmane

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Hornplayer9599@aol.com on Sun Jun 23 18:57:04 2024
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    In article <yRVdO.37436$nACc.15220@fx07.ams4>,
    Hornplayer9599 <Hornplayer9599@aol.com> wrote:
    On 6/23/2024 07:37, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0oneuufslhg2z000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Clearly there are still questions left to be answered
    after this season... Mrs Flood, the snow (etc.) plus we
    all know Ruby's story hasn't been fully told yet...

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes
    and I will amend them at some stage now that I can view
    S1/S14 as a whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of
    Death" gets a 5/10 from me.

    So out of 10 ?

    Read what I typed again... s.l.o.w.l.y.

    Put is in an isloated sentence.

    You supposedly are intelligent, Dave. You don't need anyone to format
    their posts as if they were written to be included in a McGuffy Reader.


    I prefer to format for simplicity



    No, because I'm not pandering to simpletons who lack
    comprehension skills...

    --

    Intelligence is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
    --Carl Sagan



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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Jun 23 19:00:06 2024
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    In article <xn0onf0tgstjyd8003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0onev8zsm2jfc003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0oneuufslhg2z000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of
    episodes and I will amend them at some stage now that
    I can view S1/S14 as a whole... so bearing in mind
    that, "Empire of Death" gets a 5/10 from me.

    So out of 10 ?

    Read what I typed again... s.l.o.w.l.y.

    Put is in an isloated sentence.

    No, because I'm not pandering to simpletons who lack
    comprehension skills...

    I make mine clear and simple.

    WHAT?!!!!

    <shocked face>

    <then falls off chair>

    Did you hurt your skull?
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Mickmane on Sun Jun 23 19:00:32 2024
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    In article <GgPy8AV5czB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
    On 23.06.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Well, that was a bit of a let-down...

    Yup.

    Everyone dies... then they don't.

    That it would be undone was clear the moment Donna's daughter was turned
    to dust.

    The powerful God of Death is defeated in five minutes... by a
    spoon and tow rope!

    When the Doctor held up the spoon saying he'd defeat Sutekh with it, I
    was reminded of Riddick killing someone with a teacup.

    And what's with the Doctor and his stupid announcements/speeches? He's
    still missing the brilliant part. And the energy, urgency.

    Bringing death to death = Life. (Huh?)

    I can even follow that reasoning.

    Ruby finds her mother... and she's normal!!! (Well, there's
    always a twist at the end, right?)

    Lame though. And what about the snow? They forgot about that.

    And the explanation for the pointing made no sense at all.

    Ruby says goodbye... but appears in a 'Sneak Peek' for a future
    episode in last night's "Doctor Who:Unleashed".

    I like Ruby.

    Mrs Flood breaks the Fourth Wall, again.

    She said the Doctor is a clever boy. So she's Clara, but didn't
    recognize the TARDIS on sight?

    Didn't the Doctor forget about Clara, or Clara about the Doctor, or >something? Didn't she whizz off with someone in someone else's TARDIS?

    All in all, a typical RTD season finale. Nothing makes a lot of
    sense and the big bad is defeated very quickly after a big build
    up, leaving more time for family chit-chat and tearful emotional
    goodbyes of course.

    Didn't seem typical. But yea, nothing makes much sense.

    Clearly there are still questions left to be answered after this
    season... Mrs Flood, the snow (etc.) plus we all know Ruby's
    story hasn't been fully told yet...

    What's there beside the snow?

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes and I
    will amend them at some stage now that I can view S1/S14 as a
    whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of Death" gets a 5/10
    from me.

    Yeah, 5/10, I agree.

    --

    Mickmane


    Looks like 5 average.
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sun Jun 23 20:14:14 2024
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    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0onf0tgstjyd8003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    Put is in an isloated sentence.

    No, because I'm not pandering to simpletons who lack
    comprehension skills...

    I make mine clear and simple.

    WHAT?!!!!

    <shocked face>

    <then falls off chair>

    Did you hurt your skull?

    Not as much as you hurt yours when you got your bang!

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Last Doctor on Sun Jun 23 20:42:38 2024
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    The Last Doctor wrote:

    And so we come to the end of 15’s first season.

    A mixed season overall for me, a bad opener and a weak finish
    but some good entertainment in between.

    The finale was headed for greatness but took some shoddy,
    irrational paths to get to its ending and the reset fix was a
    cheap cheat.

    When it comes to "Doctor Who" season finales it's virtually
    by-the-numbers RTD.

    That said, it was still entertaining, well directed
    and oozed production quality.

    The show is the best it has ever looked.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 23 21:35:32 2024
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    Hornplayer9599 wrote:

    On 6/23/2024 11:07, Blueshirt wrote:


    I make mine clear and simple.

    To WHOM? The voices in your head do not count.

    Dave REALLY is delusional if he genuinely thinks that he makes
    anything he posts here "clear and simple" !!!

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  • From Hornplayer9599@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Jun 23 15:22:45 2024
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 6/23/2024 11:07, Blueshirt wrote:


    I make mine clear and simple.

    To WHOM? The voices in your head do not count.


    WHAT?!!!!

    <shocked face>

    <then falls off chair>

    --

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    --Carl Sagan

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  • From Hornplayer9599@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Jun 23 16:48:55 2024
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 6/23/2024 05:11, Blueshirt wrote:
    Well, that was a bit of a let-down...

    Yeah, no argument here. It definitely did not rise to the
    same level as Part 1. Didn't suck, but wasn't fantastic either.


    Everyone dies... then they don't.

    The powerful God of Death is defeated in five minutes... by a
    spoon and tow rope!

    Bringing death to death = Life. (Huh?)

    Double negative: a negative times a negative has a positive product.
    That's the RTD logic anyway. Still doesn't make much sense, but, hey,
    we've got to have a happy ending here...otherwise the next season would
    be rather boring with nothing going on outside the TARDIS.



    Thankfully, based on previous experience my expectations weren't
    too high for this episode... just as well, as for me it's RTD's
    worst season finale! I could say a lot more, good and bad, but
    it's "Doctor Who" not a science documentary. It looked good, and
    Ncuti was on top form, but think about the plot too much and
    you'll be scratching your head for the rest of the day.

    Some of my thoughts. Ncuti overall wasn't bad. At the beginning of the
    season it looked to me like he had drunk way too many cups of coffee,
    and was amped up on caffeine. Fortunately they switched him to decaf by
    the third story. Another criticism I would have is that the Doctor was over-emotional throughout the season. I'm not saying that the Doctor
    should be an uncaring iceberg, but he cried and/or yelled in almost
    every episode...to the point where it became formulaic: you knew that
    at a specific point in (almost) every story, the Doctor would cry and
    yell. Overusing that over the course of the season made the primal howl
    he gave in Empire of Death a LOT LESS effective as a dramatic
    element...we had seen it several times over by then.

    Another criticism I have is a carry-over from last week's Part 1. There
    were two members of UNIT, can't remember their names at the moment, that
    last week contributed so little to the plot, that I was questioning why
    they were there in the first place. Their lines and actions could have
    easily been given to another character, and the scenes would have been
    just as effective. Since the season finale was a two-parter, I wanted
    to wait to see what these two UNIT members did in Part 2 before
    commenting. Well, this week they contributed /even/ /less/ to the plot
    than they did last week....aside from contributing to the death count.
    Why were they there?



    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes and I
    will amend them at some stage now that I can view S1/S14 as a
    whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of Death" gets a 5/10
    from me.

    The season started off very poorly. If they had not done the first two stories, started with #3 and stuck two other stories in there somewhere,
    the season would have been much stronger overall; it had been slowly
    gaining momentum from the 4th story...until Empire of Death...then it
    stripped third gear. I question why the BBC and Disney chose to release
    the season in May and June. Those are the two months that start the
    summer holiday season in the Northern Hemisphere, and a lot of people
    would be on holiday, or otherwise "touching grass" (without being told), instead of watching something through traditional broadcast or streaming...simply because the weather is better with more daylight
    hours to do things outside (in fact, wasn't "well, it was a nice day"
    used as an excuse for the low overnight ratings for Devil's Chord?).
    That's the reason show seasons traditionally run from September to the beginning of May...the greater occurrence of inclement weather forces
    people to be inside...you have a captive audience.

    Empire gets a 5/10 from me as well. As I said above: didn't suck, but
    wasn't fantastic either. Overall the season gets a 6.5/10 from me.

    --

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Hornplayer9599@aol.com on Sun Jun 23 23:56:00 2024
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <qu%dO.431705$ujOb.351102@fx16.ams4>,
    Hornplayer9599 <Hornplayer9599@aol.com> wrote:
    On 6/23/2024 11:07, Blueshirt wrote:


    I make mine clear and simple.

    To WHOM? The voices in your head do not count.


    WHAT?!!!!

    <shocked face>

    <then falls off chair>


    Still tuning the horn in the middle of your face?

    --

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    --Carl Sagan



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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Jun 23 23:55:11 2024
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <xn0onf5qft08jvx000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0onf0tgstjyd8003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    Put is in an isloated sentence.

    No, because I'm not pandering to simpletons who lack
    comprehension skills...

    I make mine clear and simple.

    WHAT?!!!!

    <shocked face>

    <then falls off chair>

    Did you hurt your skull?

    Not as much as you hurt yours when you got your bang!

    Then no pain.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Jun 23 23:56:15 2024
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <xn0onf7u8t3540l000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Hornplayer9599 wrote:

    On 6/23/2024 11:07, Blueshirt wrote:


    I make mine clear and simple.

    To WHOM? The voices in your head do not count.

    Dave REALLY is delusional if he genuinely thinks that he makes
    anything he posts here "clear and simple" !!!

    I isolate my score.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to solar.penguin@gmail.com on Sun Jun 23 23:57:15 2024
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <v5a4qg$h8dv$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    Mickmane mentioned:

    On 23.06.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Ruby finds her mother... and she's normal!!! (Well, there's
    always a twist at the end, right?)

    Lame though. And what about the snow? They forgot about that.

    They could’ve added a quick line that the snow is probably a
    lingering side effect of the paradox when the goblins took baby
    Ruby. That would’ve worked.


    And the explanation for the pointing made no sense at all.


    In my personal headcanon, the Doctor was mistaken. She was
    pointing past him but not to the lamppost. It was to the church
    hoping he would go there and find the baby. (After all, she
    didn’t know when the vicar would look out, so might as well
    let someone else know too.)


    Mrs Flood breaks the Fourth Wall, again.

    She said the Doctor is a clever boy. So she's Clara, but didn't
    recognize the TARDIS on sight?

    Maybe one of Clara’s duplicate fragments. (That would also
    explain how she aged, which Clara can’t do any more.)


    Didn't the Doctor forget about Clara, or Clara about the Doctor, or
    something?

    He forgot about her, but recovered his memories later.

    Didn't she whizz off with someone in someone else's TARDIS?


    With the immortal Ashildr in a TARDIS that looks like an American
    diner.


    And then in twice upon a time ...

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Hornplayer9599@aol.com on Sun Jun 23 23:57:58 2024
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <dL0eO.246290$IG21.150679@fx15.ams4>,
    Hornplayer9599 <Hornplayer9599@aol.com> wrote:
    On 6/23/2024 05:11, Blueshirt wrote:
    Well, that was a bit of a let-down...

    Yeah, no argument here. It definitely did not rise to the
    same level as Part 1. Didn't suck, but wasn't fantastic either.


    Everyone dies... then they don't.

    The powerful God of Death is defeated in five minutes... by a
    spoon and tow rope!

    Bringing death to death = Life. (Huh?)

    Double negative: a negative times a negative has a positive product.
    That's the RTD logic anyway. Still doesn't make much sense, but, hey,
    we've got to have a happy ending here...otherwise the next season would
    be rather boring with nothing going on outside the TARDIS.



    Thankfully, based on previous experience my expectations weren't
    too high for this episode... just as well, as for me it's RTD's
    worst season finale! I could say a lot more, good and bad, but
    it's "Doctor Who" not a science documentary. It looked good, and
    Ncuti was on top form, but think about the plot too much and
    you'll be scratching your head for the rest of the day.

    Some of my thoughts. Ncuti overall wasn't bad. At the beginning of the >season it looked to me like he had drunk way too many cups of coffee,
    and was amped up on caffeine. Fortunately they switched him to decaf by
    the third story. Another criticism I would have is that the Doctor was >over-emotional throughout the season. I'm not saying that the Doctor
    should be an uncaring iceberg, but he cried and/or yelled in almost
    every episode...to the point where it became formulaic: you knew that
    at a specific point in (almost) every story, the Doctor would cry and
    yell. Overusing that over the course of the season made the primal howl
    he gave in Empire of Death a LOT LESS effective as a dramatic
    element...we had seen it several times over by then.

    Another criticism I have is a carry-over from last week's Part 1. There
    were two members of UNIT, can't remember their names at the moment, that
    last week contributed so little to the plot, that I was questioning why
    they were there in the first place. Their lines and actions could have >easily been given to another character, and the scenes would have been
    just as effective. Since the season finale was a two-parter, I wanted
    to wait to see what these two UNIT members did in Part 2 before
    commenting. Well, this week they contributed /even/ /less/ to the plot
    than they did last week....aside from contributing to the death count.
    Why were they there?



    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes and I
    will amend them at some stage now that I can view S1/S14 as a
    whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of Death" gets a 5/10
    from me.

    The season started off very poorly. If they had not done the first two >stories, started with #3 and stuck two other stories in there somewhere,
    the season would have been much stronger overall; it had been slowly
    gaining momentum from the 4th story...until Empire of Death...then it >stripped third gear. I question why the BBC and Disney chose to release
    the season in May and June. Those are the two months that start the
    summer holiday season in the Northern Hemisphere, and a lot of people
    would be on holiday, or otherwise "touching grass" (without being told), >instead of watching something through traditional broadcast or >streaming...simply because the weather is better with more daylight
    hours to do things outside (in fact, wasn't "well, it was a nice day"
    used as an excuse for the low overnight ratings for Devil's Chord?).
    That's the reason show seasons traditionally run from September to the >beginning of May...the greater occurrence of inclement weather forces
    people to be inside...you have a captive audience.

    Empire gets a 5/10 from me as well. As I said above: didn't suck, but
    wasn't fantastic either. Overall the season gets a 6.5/10 from me.


    5/10 for me for Seaon 1 overall.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to solar.penguin@gmail.com on Sun Jun 23 23:58:30 2024
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <v5a5ri$hddi$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    The idiot insisted:


    Still looking for the SP score and MM score.

    I don’t normally do marks out of 10. If I did, I would probably give
    it something around 7/10. But I don’t, so I’ll just say that it’s
    more like a guilty pleasure than a genuinely great episode.


    More towards 5 for the radw average.

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  • From The Last Doctor@21:1/5 to solar penguin on Mon Jun 24 07:13:40 2024
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    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    The idiot informed us:

    In article <v5a5ri$hddi$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    The idiot insisted:


    Still looking for the SP score and MM score.

    I don’t normally do marks out of 10. If I did, I would probably give
    it something around 7/10. But I don’t, so I’ll just say that it’s
    more like a guilty pleasure than a genuinely great episode.


    More towards 5 for the radw average.


    I guess I’m just more tolerant of episodes that have lots of
    good moments that don’t come together to make a good plot.
    Like I said, they’re my guilty pleasure.

    That’s where my 6 was coming from as well. I found a fair bit to like in
    the episode despite its flaws and my own head canon made it better for me.



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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Mon Jun 24 19:30:22 2024
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    The Doctor wrote on 23/6/24 11:01 pm:
    In article <xn0onev8zsm2jfc003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0oneuufslhg2z000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Clearly there are still questions left to be answered
    after this season... Mrs Flood, the snow (etc.) plus we
    all know Ruby's story hasn't been fully told yet...

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes
    and I will amend them at some stage now that I can view
    S1/S14 as a whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of
    Death" gets a 5/10 from me.

    So out of 10 ?

    Read what I typed again... s.l.o.w.l.y.

    Put is in an isloated sentence.

    No, because I'm not pandering to simpletons who lack
    comprehension skills...

    I make mine clear and simple.

    Certainly SIMPLE!!
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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Mon Jun 24 19:19:43 2024
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    The Doctor wrote on 23/6/24 10:17 pm:
    In article <xn0onereisgshk2000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Well, that was a bit of a let-down...

    Everyone dies... then they don't.

    The powerful God of Death is defeated in five minutes... by a
    spoon and tow rope!

    Bringing death to death = Life. (Huh?)

    Ruby finds her mother... and she's normal!!! (Well, there's
    always a twist at the end, right?)

    Ruby says goodbye... but appears in a 'Sneak Peek' for a future
    episode in last night's "Doctor Who:Unleashed".

    Mrs Flood breaks the Fourth Wall, again.

    All in all, a typical RTD season finale. Nothing makes a lot of
    sense and the big bad is defeated very quickly after a big build
    up, leaving more time for family chit-chat and tearful emotional
    goodbyes of course.

    Thankfully, based on previous experience my expectations weren't
    too high for this episode... just as well, as for me it's RTD's
    worst season finale! I could say a lot more, good and bad, but
    it's "Doctor Who" not a science documentary. It looked good, and
    Ncuti was on top form, but think about the plot too much and
    you'll be scratching your head for the rest of the day.

    Clearly there are still questions left to be answered after this
    season... Mrs Flood, the snow (etc.) plus we all know Ruby's
    story hasn't been fully told yet...

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes and I
    will amend them at some stage now that I can view S1/S14 as a
    whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of Death" gets a *5/10*
    from me.

    So out of 10 ?

    Can't YOU, Gobble-de-gook, READ??
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to solar.penguin@gmail.com on Mon Jun 24 12:47:01 2024
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <v5b5rh$qjcd$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    The idiot informed us:

    In article <v5a5ri$hddi$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    The idiot insisted:


    Still looking for the SP score and MM score.

    I don’t normally do marks out of 10. If I did, I would probably give
    it something around 7/10. But I don’t, so I’ll just say that it’s
    more like a guilty pleasure than a genuinely great episode.


    More towards 5 for the radw average.


    I guess I’m just more tolerant of episodes that have lots of
    good moments that don’t come together to make a good plot.
    Like I said, they’re my guilty pleasure.


    Rotten Tomatoes, still trying to find how to input ny thoughts

    IMDB

    6.8/10

    Mind you The Legend of ruby Sunday is 8.3/10
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to solar penguin on Mon Jun 24 13:24:20 2024
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    solar penguin wrote:


    The idiot informed us:

    In article <v5a5ri$hddi$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    I don’t normally do marks out of 10. If I did, I would
    probably give it something around 7/10. But I don’t, so
    I’ll just say that it’s more like a guilty pleasure than a
    genuinely great episode.

    More towards 5 for the radw average.

    I guess I’m just more tolerant of episodes that have lots of
    good moments that don’t come together to make a good plot.

    To be fair, most Doctor Who fans have had to be somewhat
    tolerant of that sort of thing... as it's been quite a common
    event over the years!

    Like I said, they’re my guilty pleasure.

    In the modern world I think "Doctor Who" should be everyone's
    guilty pleasure!

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to mike@xenocyte.com on Mon Jun 24 12:48:18 2024
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <v5b6b4$qmlc$1@dont-email.me>,
    The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    The idiot informed us:

    In article <v5a5ri$hddi$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    The idiot insisted:


    Still looking for the SP score and MM score.

    I don’t normally do marks out of 10. If I did, I would probably give >>>> it something around 7/10. But I don’t, so I’ll just say that it’s >>>> more like a guilty pleasure than a genuinely great episode.


    More towards 5 for the radw average.


    I guess I’m just more tolerant of episodes that have lots of
    good moments that don’t come together to make a good plot.
    Like I said, they’re my guilty pleasure.

    That’s where my 6 was coming from as well. I found a fair bit to like in >the episode despite its flaws and my own head canon made it better for me.



    Still strted as a high, ended low.


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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Mon Jun 24 13:49:57 2024
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0onf6fnt1926l007@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Last Doctor wrote:

    The finale was headed for greatness but took some shoddy,
    irrational paths to get to its ending and the reset fix was
    cheap cheat. That said, it was still entertaining,
    well directed and oozed production quality.

    The show is the best it has ever looked.

    But RTD is losing his touch.

    RTD was always going to do what he does best... nothing about
    S1/S14 has been a surprise from that POV. He is a better
    Producer than writer of "Doctor Who" (IMO). Two of the better
    stories from this season were not even written by RTD. So no
    surprise there.

    I partly guessed the finale would be a damp squib after the
    build-up the previous week. It's what RTD does... but this
    season of "Doctor Who" has still been more entertaining than the
    last couple of seasons under Chris Chibnall.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to daniel47@nomail.afraid.org on Mon Jun 24 12:56:21 2024
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <v5bdne$s1o3$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote on 23/6/24 10:17 pm:
    In article <xn0onereisgshk2000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Well, that was a bit of a let-down...

    Everyone dies... then they don't.

    The powerful God of Death is defeated in five minutes... by a
    spoon and tow rope!

    Bringing death to death = Life. (Huh?)

    Ruby finds her mother... and she's normal!!! (Well, there's
    always a twist at the end, right?)

    Ruby says goodbye... but appears in a 'Sneak Peek' for a future
    episode in last night's "Doctor Who:Unleashed".

    Mrs Flood breaks the Fourth Wall, again.

    All in all, a typical RTD season finale. Nothing makes a lot of
    sense and the big bad is defeated very quickly after a big build
    up, leaving more time for family chit-chat and tearful emotional
    goodbyes of course.

    Thankfully, based on previous experience my expectations weren't
    too high for this episode... just as well, as for me it's RTD's
    worst season finale! I could say a lot more, good and bad, but
    it's "Doctor Who" not a science documentary. It looked good, and
    Ncuti was on top form, but think about the plot too much and
    you'll be scratching your head for the rest of the day.

    Clearly there are still questions left to be answered after this
    season... Mrs Flood, the snow (etc.) plus we all know Ruby's
    story hasn't been fully told yet...

    Looking back I've probably overrated a couple of episodes and I
    will amend them at some stage now that I can view S1/S14 as a
    whole... so bearing in mind that, "Empire of Death" gets a *5/10*
    from me.

    So out of 10 ?

    Can't YOU, Gobble-de-gook, READ??
    --
    Daniel

    The UsenetDW average in 5/10 ish .
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon Jun 24 13:01:22 2024
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    In article <xn0ong9hfu10zly000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    solar penguin wrote:


    The idiot informed us:

    In article <v5a5ri$hddi$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    I don’t normally do marks out of 10. If I did, I would
    probably give it something around 7/10. But I don’t, so
    I’ll just say that it’s more like a guilty pleasure than a
    genuinely great episode.

    More towards 5 for the radw average.

    I guess I’m just more tolerant of episodes that have lots of
    good moments that don’t come together to make a good plot.

    To be fair, most Doctor Who fans have had to be somewhat
    tolerant of that sort of thing... as it's been quite a common
    event over the years!

    Like I said, they’re my guilty pleasure.

    In the modern world I think "Doctor Who" should be everyone's
    guilty pleasure!

    Doctor Who, not the Timeless Child.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon Jun 24 13:10:11 2024
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    In article <xn0onga2ou1vp45003@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0onf6fnt1926l007@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Last Doctor wrote:

    The finale was headed for greatness but took some shoddy,
    irrational paths to get to its ending and the reset fix was
    cheap cheat. That said, it was still entertaining,
    well directed and oozed production quality.

    The show is the best it has ever looked.

    But RTD is losing his touch.

    RTD was always going to do what he does best... nothing about
    S1/S14 has been a surprise from that POV. He is a better
    Producer than writer of "Doctor Who" (IMO). Two of the better
    stories from this season were not even written by RTD. So no
    surprise there.

    I partly guessed the finale would be a damp squib after the
    build-up the previous week. It's what RTD does... but this
    season of "Doctor Who" has still been more entertaining than the
    last couple of seasons under Chris Chibnall.

    Chibnall never wrote Doctor Who.
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