Does anybody know about this system? Apparently it uses Super 16 with 1.33 Anamorphics to create a Scope shaped image. they were used in Theeb(2014) which is vaguely reminiscent of Lawrence of Arabia(1962)

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In article <2e811d2a-cdb7-4cd8-8652-a75455da11bf@googlegroups.com>,
cinemad <cinemad@hotmail.com> wrote:

Does anybody know about this system? Apparently it uses Super 16 with 1.33 Anamorphics to create a Scope shaped image. they were used in Theeb(2014) which is vaguely reminiscent of Lawrence of Arabia(1962)

They are straight standard PL-mount anamorphics.

You can put them on your 35mm camera, on your 16mm camera, or on a Super 16 camera, just like with the old Cooke or B&L lenses. They are prime lenses, with the anamorphic element built into the prime, so you are changing everything out when you switch lenses.

If you were to use them on Super-16 full frame, you would get a 1:2.49 ratio without cropping, which would blow up nicely to 35mm scope.

If you were to use them (or any other 1.5x anamorphic) on regular 16mm full frame, you'd get a 1:1.99 ratio which would blow up to 35mm scope with a little cropping on top and bottom.

It's a reasonable approach to use 35mm-designed anamorphics on a 16mm or super-16 camera as long as you don't mind being forced to use long lenses.
I think the widest Hawk you can buy is 28mm which is pretty wide in 35mm
but longer than a "normal" lens in 16mm. Using anamorphic adaptors on a
lens designed for 16mm use gives you a wider range of usable focal lengths
and the ability to get an actual wide lens.

It's still hard to beat the Hawks for speed, though.... most of them are T2.2. --scott
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On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 3:15:59 AM UTC+10, Scott Dorsey wrote:

In article <2e811d2a-cdb7-4cd8-8652-a75455da11bf@googlegroups.com>,
cinemad <cinemad@hotmail.com> wrote:

Does anybody know about this system? Apparently it uses Super 16 with 1.33 Anamorphics to create a Scope shaped image. they were used in Theeb(2014) which is vaguely reminiscent of Lawrence of Arabia(1962)

They are straight standard PL-mount anamorphics.

You can put them on your 35mm camera, on your 16mm camera, or on a Super 16 camera, just like with the old Cooke or B&L lenses. They are prime lenses, with the anamorphic element built into the prime, so you are changing everything out when you switch lenses.

If you were to use them on Super-16 full frame, you would get a 1:2.49 ratio without cropping, which would blow up nicely to 35mm scope.

If you were to use them (or any other 1.5x anamorphic) on regular 16mm full frame, you'd get a 1:1.99 ratio which would blow up to 35mm scope with a little
cropping on top and bottom.

It's a reasonable approach to use 35mm-designed anamorphics on a 16mm or super-16 camera as long as you don't mind being forced to use long lenses.
I think the widest Hawk you can buy is 28mm which is pretty wide in 35mm
but longer than a "normal" lens in 16mm. Using anamorphic adaptors on a
lens designed for 16mm use gives you a wider range of usable focal lengths and the ability to get an actual wide lens.

It's still hard to beat the Hawks for speed, though.... most of them are T2.2.
--scott

I have found a brochure online that states there are also 14mm, 18mm and 24mm lenses AS WELL AS THE 28MM. All are T1.5 What is the anamorphic compression of these lenses?
I've heard 2:1, 1.33:1 and you state 1.5:1

Thanks,
Peter

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