• Astonishing WS history claims by R.M.Hayes in WSR

    From cinemad@21:1/5 to Robert Harris on Tue Apr 18 01:07:27 2017
    On Friday, 2 October 1998 17:00:00 UTC+10, Robert Harris wrote:
    Alright, folks. Time to put the cards on the table...

    so to speak...

    A few historical notes.

    Lawrence.

    3 track with four or five effects on channel four.

    However, My Fair Lady was recorded AND dubbed via the
    Edidub system. This film, which no only used the first
    live mikes for Rex Harrison, took full advantage of
    Edidub.

    This state of the art system was 8 TRACK.

    And it was fully recorded and dubbed on
    large scale (14") Edison cylinders.

    Warners archived and fortunately CBS held onto
    all cylinders - M,E and D.

    These were all predubbed and the final
    6 track mix has an audible 5k tone on channel
    six. When decoded, this splits the surrounds
    into full discreet information left and right to
    create the seventh channel.

    These cylinders were transferred to mag
    in 1994, however since many theatres
    at that time were unable to play back the
    split cylrounds, they were dropped.

    The 5k tone however can still be heard
    bleeding through to channel 4 and 5 on
    occasion.

    Hopefully, the industry will gets its act
    together in the near future, understand
    the incredible power and noise of
    wax cylinders and go back to the
    true Edidub system which made these
    roadshows what they were.

    It's next to be heard in "Eyes Wide Shut."

    RAH

    Does anybody have any more info about the EdiDub system?

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  • From Ian Partridge@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 18 11:26:11 2017
    "cinemad" <cinemad@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:025b0e01-546f-4289-ac09-bb9c89f5f95a@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, 2 October 1998 17:00:00 UTC+10, Robert Harris wrote:
    Alright, folks. Time to put the cards on the table...

    so to speak...

    A few historical notes.

    Lawrence.

    3 track with four or five effects on channel four.

    However, My Fair Lady was recorded AND dubbed via the
    Edidub system. This film, which no only used the first
    live mikes for Rex Harrison, took full advantage of
    Edidub.

    This state of the art system was 8 TRACK.

    And it was fully recorded and dubbed on
    large scale (14") Edison cylinders.

    Warners archived and fortunately CBS held onto
    all cylinders - M,E and D.

    These were all predubbed and the final
    6 track mix has an audible 5k tone on channel
    six. When decoded, this splits the surrounds
    into full discreet information left and right to
    create the seventh channel.

    These cylinders were transferred to mag
    in 1994, however since many theatres
    at that time were unable to play back the
    split cylrounds, they were dropped.

    The 5k tone however can still be heard
    bleeding through to channel 4 and 5 on
    occasion.

    Hopefully, the industry will gets its act
    together in the near future, understand
    the incredible power and noise of
    wax cylinders and go back to the
    true Edidub system which made these
    roadshows what they were.

    It's next to be heard in "Eyes Wide Shut."

    RAH

    Does anybody have any more info about the EdiDub system?

    I understood that the Edidub sound process was bought-up by Hepworth and Dickson and became Hepdick Audionophone Ltd. It was used by Jacques Tati on
    the Thompson unseen colour version of 'M. Hulot's Holiday,' and you can
    still hear Hepdick sound when Christopher Lee calls out ' ...get your Daily Telegraph!' on the English soundtrack version.

    Ian

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  • From cinemad@21:1/5 to Robert Harris on Mon May 1 23:50:47 2017
    On Friday, 2 October 1998 17:00:00 UTC+10, Robert Harris wrote:
    Alright, folks. Time to put the cards on the table...

    so to speak...

    A few historical notes.

    Lawrence.

    3 track with four or five effects on channel four.

    However, My Fair Lady was recorded AND dubbed via the
    Edidub system. This film, which no only used the first
    live mikes for Rex Harrison, took full advantage of
    Edidub.

    This state of the art system was 8 TRACK.

    And it was fully recorded and dubbed on
    large scale (14") Edison cylinders.

    Warners archived and fortunately CBS held onto
    all cylinders - M,E and D.

    These were all predubbed and the final
    6 track mix has an audible 5k tone on channel
    six. When decoded, this splits the surrounds
    into full discrete information left and right to
    create the seventh channel.

    These cylinders were transferred to mag
    in 1994, however since many theatres
    at that time were unable to play back the
    split cylrounds, they were dropped.

    The 5k tone however can still be heard
    bleeding through to channel 4 and 5 on
    occasion.

    Hopefully, the industry will gets its act
    together in the near future, understand
    the incredible power and noise of
    wax cylinders and go back to the
    true Edidub system which made these
    roadshows what they were.

    It's next to be heard in "Eyes Wide Shut."

    RAH

    Was it?

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  • From Ian Partridge@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 2 08:48:08 2017
    "cinemad" <cinemad@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4315d3f1-224f-4af8-be1b-6192d342cf43@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, 2 October 1998 17:00:00 UTC+10, Robert Harris wrote:
    Alright, folks. Time to put the cards on the table...

    so to speak...

    A few historical notes.

    Lawrence.

    3 track with four or five effects on channel four.

    However, My Fair Lady was recorded AND dubbed via the
    Edidub system. This film, which no only used the first
    live mikes for Rex Harrison, took full advantage of
    Edidub.

    This state of the art system was 8 TRACK.

    And it was fully recorded and dubbed on
    large scale (14") Edison cylinders.

    Warners archived and fortunately CBS held onto
    all cylinders - M,E and D.

    These were all predubbed and the final
    6 track mix has an audible 5k tone on channel
    six. When decoded, this splits the surrounds
    into full discrete information left and right to
    create the seventh channel.

    These cylinders were transferred to mag
    in 1994, however since many theatres
    at that time were unable to play back the
    split cylrounds, they were dropped.

    The 5k tone however can still be heard
    bleeding through to channel 4 and 5 on
    occasion.

    Hopefully, the industry will gets its act
    together in the near future, understand
    the incredible power and noise of
    wax cylinders and go back to the
    true Edidub system which made these
    roadshows what they were.

    It's next to be heard in "Eyes Wide Shut."

    RAH

    Was it?


    Robert A Harris, in his original post, was being satirical in his reply
    about giant Edison wax cylinders being used for modern film sound.

    Ian

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