On 9/28/2022 2:11 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
"Friday" By Robert A. Heinlein with introduction by Richard Chwedyk
https://www.amazon.com/Friday-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1647100259/
The second book of a rare two book science fiction series by Heinlein. I
read the well printed and well bound trade paperback published by
Richard Chwedyk in 2021 and written by Heinlein in 1981. I bought this
copy new on Amazon, I also have a 1982 MMPB copy that I do not remember
reading back then.
The world of "Gulf" and "Friday" is way different from ours. Many
things are much more advanced yet the population of Earth is
significantly reduced due to constant wars and diseases. People can
travel to the Moon and the stars using the beanstalks but travel locally
using horses and carriages. Plus ballistic travel between the
continents from place to place in 30 minutes is common. Anti-gravity
devices are used but incredibly expensive. And the USA has been broken
up into several nation states along with Canada and others. And there
are several colonies in other star systems using huge FTL space ships,
much like the old ocean liners that carried both humans and cargo.
Friday Jones Baldwin is the biological daughter of the two secret agents
who died at the end of "Gulf" on Luna preventing the immolation of
Earth, Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Greene. Of course, Friday's genes were
significantly enhanced for intelligence, strength, speed, and disease
resistance. And plus some genes from Kettle Belly "Two Canes" Baldwin,
her adopted father and her boss. Due to to the common saying, "her
mother was a test tube, her father was a sharp knife", Friday is an
artificial person with almost no rights and not a human. But nobody
knows that Friday is an artificial person as Kettle Belly adopted her
and created birth records for her. Unless, she tells her secret.
Friday is a combat ready courier and secret agent. Her enhanced speed,
strength, and training make her a formidable courier for moving valuable
materials in the dangerous world that Heinlein has built. She can kill
without remorse and loves freely, way too freely. In fact, Heinlein
brought his concept of group marriages to "Friday" that he wrote about
in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress". He even destroys a group marriage to
show how easily they can break up also.
As always, Heinlein dedicated this book to his friends and this book is
dedicated to thirty-one strong ladies, including Roberta Pournelle,
Judy-Lynn Del Rey, Ginny (his wife), Marilyn Niven, Joan De Vinge,
Catherine Sprague de Camp, etc.
https://www.nitrosyncretic.com/rah/dedications.html
Warning, both "Gulf" and "Friday" have very detailed torture scenes in
them. The descriptions are quite breathtaking.
The Heinlein apologist, Hugo and Nebula award winning author Jo Walton
says this about "Friday" in a 2009 review, "The worst book I love:
Robert Heinlein’s Friday". She complains that there is no plot but to
me, the best plot is just life.
https://www.tor.com/2009/06/14/the-worst-book-i-love-robert-heinleins-friday/
My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars (1,044 reviews)
Lynn
Am I right in thinking that "Friday" would be in no way labeled a Young
Adult book ?
Am I right in thinking that "Friday" would be in no way labeled a Young >>Adult book ?
I would agree. Friday is learning to make her way, but as an adult,
not as an adolescent coming into maturity.
On 22 Feb 2024 03:54:54 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
<tednolan>) wrote:
Am I right in thinking that "Friday" would be in no way labeled a Young >>>Adult book ?
I would agree. Friday is learning to make her way, but as an adult,
not as an adolescent coming into maturity.
I can see it might be marketed that way but I agree by no reasonable
standard can it be called the 'young adult' genre.
On 2024-02-22, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
On 22 Feb 2024 03:54:54 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
<tednolan>) wrote:
Am I right in thinking that "Friday" would be in no way labeled a Young >>>>Adult book ?
I would agree. Friday is learning to make her way, but as an adult,
not as an adolescent coming into maturity.
I can see it might be marketed that way but I agree by no reasonable
standard can it be called the 'young adult' genre.
It's never been marketed that way, and it seems unlikely that it will.
The cover painting by Michael Whelan: >https://www.michaelwhelan.com/galleries/friday/
shows a model in a mostly unzipped jumpsuit, with remarkably phallic zipper >pull-tabs.
It contains a scattering of Heinleinian obsessions: polyamory, legal-financial >problems caused by mustache-twirling betrayal, cheap ground-to-orbit and >moderate expensive FTL, cruise ships, and evil taxes.
Also has an Internet run almost entirely as an integrated multimedia
search engine.
-dsr-
The polyamory & sex in general would have been a YA deal-breaker at theOne wonders if that jump suit would either - certainly the cover on MY
time of publication. Probably not so much now. (But I still don't think >_Friday_ would fit).
--
On 3/4/2024 12:46 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:hvtargid=pla-1079418750878&psc=1&mcid=31e7c9b3d64d3bf4879ffdd1969d7fcc
On 26 Feb 2024 18:29:27 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
<tednolan>) wrote:
The polyamory & sex in general would have been a YA deal-breaker at theOne wonders if that jump suit would either - certainly the cover on MY
time of publication. Probably not so much now. (But I still don't
think
_Friday_ would fit).
--
copy (either long gone or in a box somewhere) but certainly not the
cover at
https://www.amazon.ca/Friday-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1647100259/ref=asc_df_1647100259/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459570889342&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2777652193581257372&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001576&
would certainly have been attractive to older male teenagers as I
recall...
My wife had a red one just like it when she was 23 in 1981. I liked the zipper that I was not allowed to touch.
https://www.amazon.com/Friday-Robert-Heinlein-1983-07-12/dp/B01FEK9TIY/
On 2024-03-04, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.amazon.com/Friday-Robert-Heinlein-1983-07-12/dp/B01FEK9TIY/
Is that (very strongly inspired by) Raquel Welch?
https://www.amazon.com/Friday-Robert-Heinlein-1983-07-12/dp/B01FEK9TIY/
On 2024-03-04, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.amazon.com/Friday-Robert-Heinlein-1983-07-12/dp/B01FEK9TIY/
Is that (very strongly inspired by) Raquel Welch?
Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
On 2024-03-04, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.amazon.com/Friday-Robert-Heinlein-1983-07-12/dp/B01FEK9TIY/ >>Is that (very strongly inspired by) Raquel Welch?
I think that in that era, all young men were inspired by Raquel Welch.
kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
On 2024-03-04, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.amazon.com/Friday-Robert-Heinlein-1983-07-12/dp/B01FEK9TIY/
Is that (very strongly inspired by) Raquel Welch?
I think that in that era, all young men were inspired by Raquel Welch.
It was Farrah Fawcett in the 80's when _Friday_ was released.
On 3/4/2024 12:46 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:hvtargid=pla-1079418750878&psc=1&mcid=31e7c9b3d64d3bf4879ffdd1969d7fcc
On 26 Feb 2024 18:29:27 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
<tednolan>) wrote:
The polyamory & sex in general would have been a YA deal-breaker at theOne wonders if that jump suit would either - certainly the cover on MY
time of publication. Probably not so much now. (But I still don't think >>> _Friday_ would fit).
--
copy (either long gone or in a box somewhere) but certainly not the
cover at
https://www.amazon.ca/Friday-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1647100259/ref=asc_df_1647100259/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459570889342&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2777652193581257372&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001576&
would certainly have been attractive to older male teenagers as I
recall...
My wife had a red one just like it when she was 23 in 1981. I liked the >zipper that I was not allowed to touch.
https://www.amazon.com/Friday-Robert-Heinlein-1983-07-12/dp/B01FEK9TIY/
https://www.amazon.com/Friday-Robert-Heinlein-1983-07-12/dp/B01FEK9TIY/
Is that (very strongly inspired by) Raquel Welch?
I think that in that era, all young men were inspired by Raquel Welch.
It was Farrah Fawcett in the 80's when _Friday_ was released.
On 9/28/2022 2:11 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
"Friday" By Robert A. Heinlein with introduction by Richard Chwedyk
https://www.amazon.com/Friday-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1647100259/
The second book of a rare two book science fiction series by Heinlein.
I read the well printed and well bound trade paperback published by
Richard Chwedyk in 2021 and written by Heinlein in 1981. I bought
this copy new on Amazon, I also have a 1982 MMPB copy that I do not
remember reading back then.
The world of "Gulf" and "Friday" is way different from ours. Many
things are much more advanced yet the population of Earth is
significantly reduced due to constant wars and diseases. People can
travel to the Moon and the stars using the beanstalks but travel
locally using horses and carriages. Plus ballistic travel between the
continents from place to place in 30 minutes is common. Anti-gravity
devices are used but incredibly expensive. And the USA has been
broken up into several nation states along with Canada and others.
And there are several colonies in other star systems using huge FTL
space ships, much like the old ocean liners that carried both humans
and cargo.
Friday Jones Baldwin is the biological daughter of the two secret
agents who died at the end of "Gulf" on Luna preventing the immolation
of Earth, Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Greene. Of course, Friday's genes were
significantly enhanced for intelligence, strength, speed, and disease
resistance. And plus some genes from Kettle Belly "Two Canes"
Baldwin, her adopted father and her boss. Due to to the common
saying, "her mother was a test tube, her father was a sharp knife",
Friday is an artificial person with almost no rights and not a human.
But nobody knows that Friday is an artificial person as Kettle Belly
adopted her and created birth records for her. Unless, she tells her
secret.
Friday is a combat ready courier and secret agent. Her enhanced
speed, strength, and training make her a formidable courier for moving
valuable materials in the dangerous world that Heinlein has built.
She can kill without remorse and loves freely, way too freely. In
fact, Heinlein brought his concept of group marriages to "Friday" that
he wrote about in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress". He even destroys a
group marriage to show how easily they can break up also.
As always, Heinlein dedicated this book to his friends and this book
is dedicated to thirty-one strong ladies, including Roberta Pournelle,
Judy-Lynn Del Rey, Ginny (his wife), Marilyn Niven, Joan De Vinge,
Catherine Sprague de Camp, etc.
https://www.nitrosyncretic.com/rah/dedications.html
Warning, both "Gulf" and "Friday" have very detailed torture scenes in
them. The descriptions are quite breathtaking.
The Heinlein apologist, Hugo and Nebula award winning author Jo Walton
says this about "Friday" in a 2009 review, "The worst book I love:
Robert Heinlein’s Friday". She complains that there is no plot but to
me, the best plot is just life.
https://www.tor.com/2009/06/14/the-worst-book-i-love-robert-heinleins-friday/
My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars (1,044 reviews)
Lynn
Am I right in thinking that "Friday" would be in no way labeled a Young
Adult book ?
Lynn
On 2/21/2024 10:41 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 9/28/2022 2:11 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
"Friday" By Robert A. Heinlein with introduction by Richard Chwedyk
https://www.amazon.com/Friday-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1647100259/
The second book of a rare two book science fiction series by Heinlein.
I read the well printed and well bound trade paperback published by
Richard Chwedyk in 2021 and written by Heinlein in 1981. I bought
this copy new on Amazon, I also have a 1982 MMPB copy that I do not
remember reading back then.
Am I right in thinking that "Friday" would be in no way labeled a Young
Adult book ?
Lynn
Not a YA novel, at all. (That was a joke, right?)
_Friday_ was not rare. I was working in the bookstore trade in the 80s.
It sold many copies. Not rare at all.
kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
On 2024-03-04, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.amazon.com/Friday-Robert-Heinlein-1983-07-12/dp/B01FEK9TIY/
Is that (very strongly inspired by) Raquel Welch?
I think that in that era, all young men were inspired by Raquel Welch.
It was Farrah Fawcett in the 80's when _Friday_ was released.
kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
On 2024-03-04, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.amazon.com/Friday-Robert-Heinlein-1983-07-12/dp/B01FEK9TIY/
Is that (very strongly inspired by) Raquel Welch?
I think that in that era, all young men were inspired by Raquel Welch.
It was Farrah Fawcett in the 80's when _Friday_ was released.
And I don't know that I'd consider _Gulf_ + _Friday_ as a
two-book series.
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