• Re: Esquire on the Hugo mess

    From Ahasuerus@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 3 13:35:33 2024
    On 2/3/2024 1:31 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    1) "Esquire" still exists?

    2) It covered the Hugo controversy:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20240203052928/https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/books/a46612912/science-fiction-hugo-awards-2024/

    (I believe the archive.org prefix is to get past a paywall).

    The interviewed people make various reasonable-sounding guesses, but,
    alas, they are just guesses.

    Perhaps at some point WIP or another body will do more digging and
    release a more comprehensive account of what actually happened at
    Chengdu (as the last WIP statement sort of hints at.) After all, the
    people who presided over the Hugo process are alive and available.

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 3 18:31:53 2024
    1) "Esquire" still exists?

    2) It covered the Hugo controversy:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20240203052928/https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/books/a46612912/science-fiction-hugo-awards-2024/

    (I believe the archive.org prefix is to get past a paywall).
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Cryptoengineer on Sat Feb 3 18:50:16 2024
    On 2/3/2024 6:04 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    On 2/3/2024 1:35 PM, Ahasuerus wrote:
    On 2/3/2024 1:31 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    1) "Esquire" still exists?

    2) It covered the Hugo controversy:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20240203052928/https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/books/a46612912/science-fiction-hugo-awards-2024/

    (I believe the archive.org prefix is to get past a paywall).

    The interviewed people make various reasonable-sounding guesses, but,
    alas, they are just guesses.

    Perhaps at some point WIP or another body will do more digging and
    release a more comprehensive account of what actually happened at
    Chengdu (as the last WIP statement sort of hints at.) After all, the
    people who presided over the Hugo process are alive and available.

    Weird. I'm still getting used to Thunderbird.

    I thought I posted on this earlier today, but it seems to have gone only
    to Ahasuerus. I must have hit 'Reply to sender only'.

    Using "Reply" sends to the writer of the post. Using "Followup" is for
    posting to Usenet.

    Anyway, I wrote:

    The story is hitting the non-genre press. Yesterday, Esquire magazine published an account of the affair:

    https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/books/a46612912/science-fiction-hugo-awards-2024/

    It leans more towards the 'state interference' hypothesis than it does
    the 'incompetant f*ckup' theory (personally, I think both are involved),
    but otherwise seems a pretty good account. It praises the transparency
    of the Hugo process, but notes its drawbacks as well.

    pt

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