On 1/31/2024 9:09 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
Worldcon Intellectual Property announces resignations and censures in
wave of the calamitous 2024 Hugo Award debacle.
https://www.wsfs.org/2024/01/31/announcements-from-worldcon-intellectual-property/
Ah, the punishing of the innocents has started.
In article <upeb5i$1m4ku$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/31/2024 9:09 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
Worldcon Intellectual Property announces resignations and censures inhttps://www.wsfs.org/2024/01/31/announcements-from-worldcon-intellectual-property/
wave of the calamitous 2024 Hugo Award debacle.
Ah, the punishing of the innocents has started.
Not only were the people named not innocents, the reasons why they
were rebuked were listed.
On 1/31/2024 4:45 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
In article <upeb5i$1m4ku$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/31/2024 9:09 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
Worldcon Intellectual Property announces resignations and censures in
wave of the calamitous 2024 Hugo Award debacle.
https://www.wsfs.org/2024/01/31/announcements-from-worldcon-intellectual-property/
Ah, the punishing of the innocents has started.
Not only were the people named not innocents, the reasons why they
were rebuked were listed.
Is there a publicly available explanation/description of the "actions of
the Hugo Administration Committee of the Chengdu Worldcon that he
presided over", which Dave McCarty, Chen Shi, and Ben Yalow were
censured for?
In article <upgrgt$26r61$1@dont-email.me>,
Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:
On 1/31/2024 4:45 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
In article <upeb5i$1m4ku$2@dont-email.me>,https://www.wsfs.org/2024/01/31/announcements-from-worldcon-intellectual-property/
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/31/2024 9:09 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
Worldcon Intellectual Property announces resignations and censures in >>>>> wave of the calamitous 2024 Hugo Award debacle.
Ah, the punishing of the innocents has started.
Not only were the people named not innocents, the reasons why they
were rebuked were listed.
Is there a publicly available explanation/description of the "actions of
the Hugo Administration Committee of the Chengdu Worldcon that he
presided over", which Dave McCarty, Chen Shi, and Ben Yalow were
censured for?
Yes.
Here is as good a start as any:
https://camestrosfelapton.wordpress.com/category/hugo-awards/hugo2023/
All three were involved in the Hugo process. What went wrong is unclear
but the full stats cannot be reconciled with reality. Since the trio
produced that farago of nonsense, they bear the consequence.
publicly available explanation/description of the "actions of the Hugo Administration Committee of the Chengdu Worldcon" [that resulted in censures]
On 2/1/2024 3:36 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
In article <upgrgt$26r61$1@dont-email.me>,
Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:
On 1/31/2024 4:45 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
In article <upeb5i$1m4ku$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/31/2024 9:09 AM, James Nicoll wrote:https://www.wsfs.org/2024/01/31/announcements-from-worldcon-intellectual-property/
Worldcon Intellectual Property announces resignations and censures in >>>>>> wave of the calamitous 2024 Hugo Award debacle.
Ah, the punishing of the innocents has started.
Not only were the people named not innocents, the reasons why they
were rebuked were listed.
Is there a publicly available explanation/description of the "actions of >>> the Hugo Administration Committee of the Chengdu Worldcon that he
presided over", which Dave McCarty, Chen Shi, and Ben Yalow were
censured for?
Yes.
Here is as good a start as any:
https://camestrosfelapton.wordpress.com/category/hugo-awards/hugo2023/
All three were involved in the Hugo process. What went wrong is unclear
but the full stats cannot be reconciled with reality. Since the trio
produced that farago of nonsense, they bear the consequence.
It looks like my question may not have been clear. I have seen a variety
of publicly posted comments and complaints about the Hugo process in
2023. What I was referring to when I wrote:
publicly available explanation/description of the "actions of the Hugo Administration Committee of the Chengdu Worldcon" [that resulted in censures]
was publicly available explanation/description specifically by Worldcon >Intellectual Property.
In article <uph0qq$27oed$1@dont-email.me>,
Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:
On 2/1/2024 3:36 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
In article <upgrgt$26r61$1@dont-email.me>,https://www.wsfs.org/2024/01/31/announcements-from-worldcon-intellectual-property/
Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:
On 1/31/2024 4:45 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
In article <upeb5i$1m4ku$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/31/2024 9:09 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
Worldcon Intellectual Property announces resignations and censures in >>>>>>> wave of the calamitous 2024 Hugo Award debacle.
Ah, the punishing of the innocents has started.
Not only were the people named not innocents, the reasons why they
were rebuked were listed.
Is there a publicly available explanation/description of the "actions of >>>> the Hugo Administration Committee of the Chengdu Worldcon that he
presided over", which Dave McCarty, Chen Shi, and Ben Yalow were
censured for?
Yes.
Here is as good a start as any:
https://camestrosfelapton.wordpress.com/category/hugo-awards/hugo2023/
All three were involved in the Hugo process. What went wrong is unclear
but the full stats cannot be reconciled with reality. Since the trio
produced that farago of nonsense, they bear the consequence.
It looks like my question may not have been clear. I have seen a variety
of publicly posted comments and complaints about the Hugo process in
2023. What I was referring to when I wrote:
publicly available explanation/description of the "actions of the Hugo
Administration Committee of the Chengdu Worldcon" [that resulted in
censures]
was publicly available explanation/description specifically by Worldcon
Intellectual Property.
Ah. Not that I have seen.
On 2/1/2024 3:36 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
In article <upgrgt$26r61$1@dont-email.me>,
Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:
On 1/31/2024 4:45 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
In article <upeb5i$1m4ku$2@dont-email.me>,https://www.wsfs.org/2024/01/31/announcements-from-worldcon-intellectual-property/
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/31/2024 9:09 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
Worldcon Intellectual Property announces resignations and censures in >>>>>> wave of the calamitous 2024 Hugo Award debacle.
Ah, the punishing of the innocents has started.
Not only were the people named not innocents, the reasons why they
were rebuked were listed.
Is there a publicly available explanation/description of the "actions of >>> the Hugo Administration Committee of the Chengdu Worldcon that he
presided over", which Dave McCarty, Chen Shi, and Ben Yalow were
censured for?
Yes.
Here is as good a start as any:
https://camestrosfelapton.wordpress.com/category/hugo-awards/hugo2023/
All three were involved in the Hugo process. What went wrong is unclear
but the full stats cannot be reconciled with reality. Since the trio
produced that farago of nonsense, they bear the consequence.
It looks like my question may not have been clear. I have seen a variety
of publicly posted comments and complaints about the Hugo process in
2023. What I was referring to when I wrote:
publicly available explanation/description of the "actions of the Hugo Administration Committee of the Chengdu Worldcon" [that resulted in censures]
was publicly available explanation/description specifically by Worldcon Intellectual Property.
On 2024-02-01, Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:[snip-snip]
It looks like my question may not have been clear. I have seen a variety
of publicly posted comments and complaints about the Hugo process in
2023. What I was referring to when I wrote:
publicly available explanation/description of the "actions of the Hugo
Administration Committee of the Chengdu Worldcon" [that resulted in
censures]
was publicly available explanation/description specifically by Worldcon
Intellectual Property.
Nothing specific so far about the actions of the Hugo committee as
such. McCarty, along with Standlee, were specifically taken action
against for their statements that could be interpreted that the
trademark of "Worldcon" was not being enforced or possibly could not
be enforced.
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