On 31 Oct 2023 02:05:03 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

On 10/30/2023 11:58 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Heinlein popularized the phrase "An armed society is a polite society", >>>> although contemporary events don't necessarily support that dictum.

Expanded logically that would also prevent wars....

Henry Kissinger believed it would, and the whole Mutually Assured Destruction
strategy comes from that idea. I won't say it worked, but by the same token >> I can't be sure it didn't.

It appears to be working so far ...

On 10/27/2023 8:25 AM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:

Seattle is ranked at #77 for murder and non-negligent manslaughter
(with 3.74 per 100,000). Texas cities with higher rates include
Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Corpus Christi, Denton,
Arlington, and Laredo.

Plus in Texas, I carry. Usually a .357 with either 5 rounds or 7
rounds. My carry license is good for several other states but not WA state.

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/27/2023 8:25 AM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:

Seattle is ranked at #77 for murder and non-negligent manslaughter
(with 3.74 per 100,000). Texas cities with higher rates include
Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Corpus Christi, Denton,
Arlington, and Laredo.

Plus in Texas, I carry. Usually a .357 with either 5 rounds or 7
rounds. My carry license is good for several other states but not WA state.

The one thing I learned in the war is that carrying a weapon makes you feel
a lot safer, and therefore more likely to do something unsafe, while often not really making you much safer at all.

Very strange, too, but (ObSF) I believe Haldeman's _Forever War_ addresses this briefly.

Safety in dangerous situations comes from your head, not from hardware. --scott

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/27/2023 8:25 AM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:

Seattle is ranked at #77 for murder and non-negligent manslaughter
(with 3.74 per 100,000). Texas cities with higher rates include
Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Corpus Christi, Denton,
Arlington, and Laredo.

Plus in Texas, I carry. Usually a .357 with either 5 rounds or 7
rounds. My carry license is good for several other states but not WA state.

The one thing I learned in the war is that carrying a weapon makes you feel
a lot safer, and therefore more likely to do something unsafe, while often >not really making you much safer at all.

Very strange, too, but (ObSF) I believe Haldeman's _Forever War_ addresses >this briefly.

On 10/27/2023 8:25 AM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:

On 26/10/2023 17.41, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/26/2023 10:28 AM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:

1. Seattle has won the 2025 bid.

2. Gary McGrath and Keith Lynch have some choice remarks
about Robert J Sawyer's unctuous GoH speech to his Chinese hosts.

pt

Given that Seattle is one of the higher crime cities in the USA, I
will pass.

According to
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate#Crime_rates>

Seattle is ranked at #77 for murder and non-negligent manslaughter
(with 3.74 per 100,000). Texas cities with higher rates include
Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Corpus Christi, Denton,
Arlington, and Laredo.

Plus in Texas, I carry.  Usually a .357 with either 5 rounds or 7
rounds.  My carry license is good for several other states but not WA
state.

Lynn

In article <k4lvjidnvs3jqn3bk...@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <pspe...@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 13:53:49 -0000 (UTC), jdni...@panix.com (James
Nicoll) wrote:

In article <uhn0pj$4u2l$1...@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/27/2023 8:25 AM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:

On 26/10/2023 17.41, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/26/2023 10:28 AM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:

1. Seattle has won the 2025 bid.

2. Gary McGrath and Keith Lynch have some choice remarks
about Robert J Sawyer's unctuous GoH speech to his Chinese hosts. >>>>>>
pt

Given that Seattle is one of the higher crime cities in the USA, I >>>>> will pass.

According to

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate#Crime_rates>

Seattle is ranked at #77 for murder and non-negligent manslaughter
(with 3.74 per 100,000). Texas cities with higher rates include
Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Corpus Christi, Denton,
Arlington, and Laredo.

I try to stay out of Houston too but I drove across it Friday to my >>>uncle's house 65 miles away (southwest side to northeast side).

Why are Republicans so timid and easily scared? Is this environmental
or innate? And is there a treatment for them so they can, I don't,
shit without being terrified their toilet paper is secretly Antifa?

Actually, I noticed 10-15 years ago that, so far as Republicans in
general were concerned, the terrorists had won: they were terrorized.

It may predate 9/11. Smith's libertarian utopia The Probability Broach
has everyone in Libertopia armed to the teeth because the benefits
of libertopia include a vast, well-armed criminal class eager to
rob, murder, and vote Hamiltonian the moment good people drop their
guard.
--

Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/27/2023 8:25 AM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:

Seattle is ranked at #77 for murder and non-negligent manslaughter
(with 3.74 per 100,000). Texas cities with higher rates include
Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Corpus Christi, Denton,
Arlington, and Laredo.

Plus in Texas, I carry. Usually a .357 with either 5 rounds or 7
rounds. My carry license is good for several other states but not WA state. >>

The one thing I learned in the war is that carrying a weapon makes you feel >>a lot safer, and therefore more likely to do something unsafe, while often >>not really making you much safer at all.

Very strange, too, but (ObSF) I believe Haldeman's _Forever War_ addresses >>this briefly.

Tunnel in the Sky definitely does.

On 10/29/2023 8:31 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/27/2023 8:25 AM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:

On 26/10/2023 17.41, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/26/2023 10:28 AM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:

1. Seattle has won the 2025 bid.

2. Gary McGrath and Keith Lynch have some choice remarks
about Robert J Sawyer's unctuous GoH speech to his Chinese hosts.

pt

Given that Seattle is one of the higher crime cities in the USA, I
will pass.

According to
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate#Crime_rates>

Seattle is ranked at #77 for murder and non-negligent manslaughter
(with 3.74 per 100,000). Texas cities with higher rates include
Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Corpus Christi, Denton,
Arlington, and Laredo.

Plus in Texas, I carry.  Usually a .357 with either 5 rounds or 7
rounds.  My carry license is good for several other states but not WA
state.

Lynn

I know several who carry but I believe you're the only one that I ever
heard say their every day carry is a revolver. My preference is SA/DA in
9, or my 1911.

On 10/31/2023 10:55 AM, Paul S Person wrote:

On 31 Oct 2023 02:05:03 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

On 10/30/2023 11:58 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Heinlein popularized the phrase "An armed society is a polite society", >>>>> although contemporary events don't necessarily support that dictum.

Expanded logically that would also prevent wars....

Henry Kissinger believed it would, and the whole Mutually Assured Destruction
strategy comes from that idea. I won't say it worked, but by the same token
I can't be sure it didn't.

It appears to be working so far ...

I think that we are in the thirty day window until the next nuclear
bombs are dropped in anger.

I have severe tendonitis in my right wrist which is probably related to
me shattering my right humerus some 58 years ago.  Eight weeks of
traction at five years of age.  Plus writing engineering software since
I was 15.  The tendonitis surgery has a 50% failure rate with a three+
month downtime so I am not going to do it.  So, I limp wrist my semi automatics now (jamming and feed failure) and I have trouble racking the slides.  I have switched back to revolvers.

Getting old sucks.  I don't fire my .44 magnum anymore either.  And I
wear a wrist brace all the time on the right arm.

On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 14:51:36 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/31/2023 10:55 AM, Paul S Person wrote:

On 31 Oct 2023 02:05:03 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

On 10/30/2023 11:58 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Heinlein popularized the phrase "An armed society is a polite society", >>>>>> although contemporary events don't necessarily support that dictum. >>>>>>

Expanded logically that would also prevent wars....

Henry Kissinger believed it would, and the whole Mutually Assured Destruction
strategy comes from that idea. I won't say it worked, but by the same token
I can't be sure it didn't.

It appears to be working so far ...

I think that we are in the thirty day window until the next nuclear
bombs are dropped in anger.

We usually are.

Like the Second Coming, it is always near, and yet when it happens we
will still be surprised.

That comes from _Beyond This Horizon_. What Heinlein portrayed in
that novel didn't support the dictum, either. The top duellists were >>frequently giving offense in order to provoke duels (which they
naturally expected to win).

IIRC, the dictum was also part of the notebooks of Lazerus Long.

On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 21:22:09 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

That comes from _Beyond This Horizon_. What Heinlein portrayed in
that novel didn't support the dictum, either. The top duellists were >>>frequently giving offense in order to provoke duels (which they
naturally expected to win).

IIRC, the dictum was also part of the notebooks of Lazerus Long.

Thank you for mentioning that since I knew I hadn't read _Beyond This >Horizon_ but HAD read "Time Enough For Love" which was all about
Lazerus Long.

James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/27/2023 8:25 AM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:

Seattle is ranked at #77 for murder and non-negligent manslaughter
(with 3.74 per 100,000). Texas cities with higher rates include
Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Corpus Christi, Denton,
Arlington, and Laredo.

Plus in Texas, I carry. Usually a .357 with either 5 rounds or 7
rounds. My carry license is good for several other states but not WA state.

The one thing I learned in the war is that carrying a weapon makes you feel >>> a lot safer, and therefore more likely to do something unsafe, while often >>> not really making you much safer at all.

Very strange, too, but (ObSF) I believe Haldeman's _Forever War_ addresses >>> this briefly.

Tunnel in the Sky definitely does.

Oh, yes, I forgot all about that! That was really a brilliant book in
a number of ways.
--scott

James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/27/2023 8:25 AM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:

Seattle is ranked at #77 for murder and non-negligent manslaughter
(with 3.74 per 100,000). Texas cities with higher rates include
Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Corpus Christi, Denton,
Arlington, and Laredo.

Plus in Texas, I carry. Usually a .357 with either 5 rounds or 7
rounds. My carry license is good for several other states but not WA state.

The one thing I learned in the war is that carrying a weapon makes you feel >>> a lot safer, and therefore more likely to do something unsafe, while often >>> not really making you much safer at all.

Very strange, too, but (ObSF) I believe Haldeman's _Forever War_ addresses >>> this briefly.

Tunnel in the Sky definitely does.

Oh, yes, I forgot all about that! That was really a brilliant book in
a number of ways.
--scott

On 1/11/23 15:19, Scott Dorsey wrote:

James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

Tunnel in the Sky definitely does.

Oh, yes, I forgot all about that! That was really a brilliant book in
a number of ways.

The greatest fear instilled by their instructors on Earth prior to
departure was that of the unspecified carnivore, the stobor, which I understood to be a simple backwards disguise for robots so this was on
my mistaken mind for much of the book.

On 04/11/2023 23.27, Titus G wrote:

On 1/11/23 15:19, Scott Dorsey wrote:

James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

Tunnel in the Sky definitely does.

Oh, yes, I forgot all about that!  That was really a brilliant book in
a number of ways.

The greatest fear instilled by their instructors on Earth prior to
departure was that of the unspecified carnivore, the stobor, which I
understood to be a simple backwards disguise for robots so this was on
my mistaken mind for much of the book.

I'm glad to know that I wasn't the only one.

On 11/5/2023 6:00 AM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:

On 04/11/2023 23.27, Titus G wrote:

On 1/11/23 15:19, Scott Dorsey wrote:

James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

Tunnel in the Sky definitely does.

Oh, yes, I forgot all about that!  That was really a brilliant book in >>>> a number of ways.

The greatest fear instilled by their instructors on Earth prior to
departure was that of the unspecified carnivore, the stobor, which I
understood to be a simple backwards disguise for robots so this was on
my mistaken mind for much of the book.

I'm glad to know that I wasn't the only one.

I believe at the end of the story the instructors inform the survivors that there was no specific "storbor" animal that they knew of. "Storbors" were generic, unspecified dangerous unknowns and they were told to look out for them because there is _

On 10/31/2023 10:55 AM, Paul S Person wrote:

On 31 Oct 2023 02:05:03 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

On 10/30/2023 11:58 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Heinlein popularized the phrase "An armed society is a polite society", >>>>> although contemporary events don't necessarily support that dictum.

Expanded logically that would also prevent wars....

Henry Kissinger believed it would, and the whole Mutually Assured Destruction
strategy comes from that idea. I won't say it worked, but by the same token
I can't be sure it didn't.

It appears to be working so far ...

I think that we are in the thirty day window until the next nuclear
bombs are dropped in anger.

On 04/11/2023 23.27, Titus G wrote:

On 1/11/23 15:19, Scott Dorsey wrote:

James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

Tunnel in the Sky definitely does.

Oh, yes, I forgot all about that! That was really a brilliant book in
a number of ways.

The greatest fear instilled by their instructors on Earth prior to
departure was that of the unspecified carnivore, the stobor, which I
understood to be a simple backwards disguise for robots so this was on
my mistaken mind for much of the book.

I'm glad to know that I wasn't the only one.

In article <uhrls8$16hkj$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/31/2023 10:55 AM, Paul S Person wrote:

On 31 Oct 2023 02:05:03 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

On 10/30/2023 11:58 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Heinlein popularized the phrase "An armed society is a polite society", >>>>>> although contemporary events don't necessarily support that dictum. >>>>>>

Expanded logically that would also prevent wars....

Henry Kissinger believed it would, and the whole Mutually Assured Destruction
strategy comes from that idea. I won't say it worked, but by the same token
I can't be sure it didn't.

It appears to be working so far ...

I think that we are in the thirty day window until the next nuclear
bombs are dropped in anger.

[Hal Heydt]
What do you count as the first day of that "30 day window"?

Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/27/2023 8:25 AM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:

Seattle is ranked at #77 for murder and non-negligent manslaughter
(with 3.74 per 100,000). Texas cities with higher rates include
Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Corpus Christi, Denton,
Arlington, and Laredo.

Plus in Texas, I carry. Usually a .357 with either 5 rounds or 7
rounds. My carry license is good for several other states but not WA state.

The one thing I learned in the war is that carrying a weapon makes you feel a lot safer, and therefore more likely to do something unsafe, while often not really making you much safer at all.

Very strange, too, but (ObSF) I believe Haldeman's _Forever War_ addresses this briefly.

Safety in dangerous situations comes from your head, not from hardware. --scott

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 7:37:43 AM UTC+11, Scott Dorsey wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/27/2023 8:25 AM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:

Seattle is ranked at #77 for murder and non-negligent manslaughter
(with 3.74 per 100,000). Texas cities with higher rates include
Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Corpus Christi, Denton,
Arlington, and Laredo.

Plus in Texas, I carry. Usually a .357 with either 5 rounds or 7
rounds. My carry license is good for several other states but not WA state.

The one thing I learned in the war is that carrying a weapon makes you feel
a lot safer, and therefore more likely to do something unsafe, while often not really making you much safer at all.

Very strange, too, but (ObSF) I believe Haldeman's _Forever War_ addresses this briefly.

It's referenced in Tunnel in the Sky as well.

In article <uhrls8$16hkj$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/31/2023 10:55 AM, Paul S Person wrote:

On 31 Oct 2023 02:05:03 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

On 10/30/2023 11:58 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Heinlein popularized the phrase "An armed society is a polite society", >>>>>> although contemporary events don't necessarily support that dictum. >>>>>>

Expanded logically that would also prevent wars....

Henry Kissinger believed it would, and the whole Mutually Assured Destruction
strategy comes from that idea. I won't say it worked, but by the same token
I can't be sure it didn't.

It appears to be working so far ...

I think that we are in the thirty day window until the next nuclear
bombs are dropped in anger.

[Hal Heydt]
What do you count as the first day of that "30 day window"?

On 11/5/2023 7:22 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

In article <uhrls8$16hkj$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

I think that we are in the thirty day window until the next nuclear
bombs are dropped in anger.

[Hal Heydt]
What do you count as the first day of that "30 day window"?

The day that email posted, Oct 31, 2023. As Paul mentioned, it is a
moving window.

In article <uibgti$jqis$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/5/2023 7:22 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

In article <uhrls8$16hkj$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

I think that we are in the thirty day window until the next nuclear
bombs are dropped in anger.

[Hal Heydt]
What do you count as the first day of that "30 day window"?

The day that email posted, Oct 31, 2023. As Paul mentioned, it is a
moving window.

[Hal Heydt]
So... If no nuclear war breaks out before 1 Dec. 2023, will you
concede that you were in error? Or will you "move the goal
posts"?

In article <uibgti$jqis$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/5/2023 7:22 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

In article <uhrls8$16hkj$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

I think that we are in the thirty day window until the next nuclear
bombs are dropped in anger.

[Hal Heydt]
What do you count as the first day of that "30 day window"?

The day that email posted, Oct 31, 2023. As Paul mentioned, it is a
moving window.

[Hal Heydt]
So... If no nuclear war breaks out before 1 Dec. 2023, will you
concede that you were in error? Or will you "move the goal
posts"?

In article <s3xpGF.3x5@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:

In article <uibgti$jqis$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/5/2023 7:22 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

In article <uhrls8$16hkj$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

I think that we are in the thirty day window until the next nuclear
bombs are dropped in anger.

[Hal Heydt]
What do you count as the first day of that "30 day window"?

The day that email posted, Oct 31, 2023. As Paul mentioned, it is a
moving window.

[Hal Heydt]
So... If no nuclear war breaks out before 1 Dec. 2023, will you
concede that you were in error? Or will you "move the goal
posts"?

Doesn't the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists make that movement for us? --scott

On 11/11/2023 8:19 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

In article <s3xpGF.3x5@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:

In article <uibgti$jqis$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire  <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/5/2023 7:22 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

In article <uhrls8$16hkj$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire  <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

I think that we are in the thirty day window until the next nuclear >>>>>> bombs are dropped in anger.

[Hal Heydt]
What do you count as the first day of that "30 day window"?

The day that email posted, Oct 31, 2023.  As Paul mentioned, it is a
moving window.

[Hal Heydt]
So...  If no nuclear war breaks out before 1 Dec. 2023, will you
concede that you were in error?  Or will you "move the goal
posts"?

Doesn't the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists make that movement for us?
--scott

Have they set their infamous clock at a 1/10th of a second to Armageddon
yet ?

On 11/11/2023 6:53 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 11/11/2023 8:19 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

In article <s3xpGF.3x5@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:

In article <uibgti$jqis$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire  <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/5/2023 7:22 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

In article <uhrls8$16hkj$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire  <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

I think that we are in the thirty day window until the next nuclear >>>>>>> bombs are dropped in anger.

[Hal Heydt]
What do you count as the first day of that "30 day window"?

The day that email posted, Oct 31, 2023.  As Paul mentioned, it is a >>>>> moving window.

[Hal Heydt]
So...  If no nuclear war breaks out before 1 Dec. 2023, will you
concede that you were in error?  Or will you "move the goal
posts"?

Doesn't the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists make that movement for us? >>> --scott

Have they set their infamous clock at a 1/10th of a second to
Armageddon yet ?

No, because they NEVER set it that close to midnight.

On 11/11/2023 10:20 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 11/11/2023 6:53 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 11/11/2023 8:19 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

In article <s3xpG...@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com> wrote:

In article <uibgti$jqis$2...@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/5/2023 7:22 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

In article <uhrls8$16hkj$2...@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think that we are in the thirty day window until the next nuclear >>>>>>> bombs are dropped in anger.

[Hal Heydt]
What do you count as the first day of that "30 day window"?

The day that email posted, Oct 31, 2023. As Paul mentioned, it is a >>>>> moving window.

[Hal Heydt]
So... If no nuclear war breaks out before 1 Dec. 2023, will you
concede that you were in error? Or will you "move the goal
posts"?

Doesn't the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists make that movement for us? >>> --scott

Have they set their infamous clock at a 1/10th of a second to
Armageddon yet ?

No, because they NEVER set it that close to midnight.

I believe that we are closest to nuclear war since the Cuban Missile
Crisis. Israel is fighting a war on two fronts right now, if the third
front goes wild then all bets are off. Four fronts will be nigh unto impossible.

Turkey moving nuclear equipped submarines into the Med last week was not cool. Our two carrier groups in the Med are reputedly active pinging
like crazy. They don't normally actively ping unless things are really
bad, it is bad for sea creatures and submarines.

Lynn

On 11/11/2023 10:20 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 11/11/2023 6:53 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 11/11/2023 8:19 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

In article <s3xpGF.3x5@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:

In article <uibgti$jqis$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire  <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/5/2023 7:22 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

In article <uhrls8$16hkj$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire  <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

I think that we are in the thirty day window until the next nuclear >>>>>>>> bombs are dropped in anger.

[Hal Heydt]
What do you count as the first day of that "30 day window"?

The day that email posted, Oct 31, 2023.  As Paul mentioned, it is a >>>>>> moving window.

[Hal Heydt]
So...  If no nuclear war breaks out before 1 Dec. 2023, will you
concede that you were in error?  Or will you "move the goal
posts"?

Doesn't the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists make that movement for us? >>>> --scott

Have they set their infamous clock at a 1/10th of a second to
Armageddon yet ?

No, because they NEVER set it that close to midnight.

I believe that we are closest to nuclear war since the Cuban Missile
Crisis.