• The Word for World is Forest

    From Joy Beeson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 15 04:05:39 2023
    While in the library for something else, I thought I'd check out one
    of the library-bound Nortons to save it from the next weeding.

    I was too late, but a book in the hard binding that libraries used to
    put on paperbacks to make them last longer caught my eye. (How many
    of you can remember when one could go to a library in search of books
    that were no longer available elsewhere?)

    I've been hearing of _The Word for World is Forest_ for decades, and
    decided it was time to read it.

    I was rather put off at first, thinking that she intended to write the
    entire novel from the viewpoint of a bigoted yahoo who was doomed to
    never learn any better -- and she was working *way* too hard at it.
    But the viewpoint changed in Chapter Two, and at page 93 of 169, I'm
    quite engaged.

    --------------

    The book has been back in the library for some time.

    Another barrier to getting into the first chapter: There was extended discussion of someone "prone on his back". No hint that it was meant
    to show a change in the language or to characterize the speakers.

    The book is engaging, but depressing and altogether too believable.

    It was a bit much to make the forest planetwide, but the characters
    did remark on it, and there were hints that faraway parts of the
    forest had slightly different cultures and ecology.

    --
    Joy Beeson
    joy beeson at centurylink dot net
    http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

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  • From Robert Carnegie@21:1/5 to Joy Beeson on Sun Oct 15 04:04:55 2023
    On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 09:05:44 UTC+1, Joy Beeson wrote:
    While in the library for something else, I thought I'd check out one
    of the library-bound Nortons to save it from the next weeding.

    I was too late, but a book in the hard binding that libraries used to
    put on paperbacks to make them last longer caught my eye. (How many
    of you can remember when one could go to a library in search of books
    that were no longer available elsewhere?)

    I've been hearing of _The Word for World is Forest_ for decades, and
    decided it was time to read it.

    I was rather put off at first, thinking that she intended to write the
    entire novel from the viewpoint of a bigoted yahoo who was doomed to
    never learn any better -- and she was working *way* too hard at it.
    But the viewpoint changed in Chapter Two, and at page 93 of 169, I'm
    quite engaged.

    --------------

    The book has been back in the library for some time.

    Another barrier to getting into the first chapter: There was extended discussion of someone "prone on his back". No hint that it was meant
    to show a change in the language or to characterize the speakers.

    Today I have learned that "prone" strictly means
    lying front down, and a word for lying front up
    is "supine", but is that the problem? And how
    did I not know it before?

    Consulting Wikipedia's summary of the book,
    I note that as I understand it, Earth humans
    basically can't be face down and front up and
    in one functioning piece, but perhaps the people
    of Athshe can. But I think it's not about the head
    position, anyway.

    "Athshe" looks like sneezing with a lisp.

    I suppose that an Earth person can be prone on
    someone else's back - if they both are prone?

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  • From petertrei@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Robert Carnegie on Sun Oct 15 08:04:40 2023
    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 7:04:57 AM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie wrote:
    On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 09:05:44 UTC+1, Joy Beeson wrote:
    While in the library for something else, I thought I'd check out one
    of the library-bound Nortons to save it from the next weeding.

    I was too late, but a book in the hard binding that libraries used to
    put on paperbacks to make them last longer caught my eye. (How many
    of you can remember when one could go to a library in search of books
    that were no longer available elsewhere?)

    I've been hearing of _The Word for World is Forest_ for decades, and decided it was time to read it.

    I was rather put off at first, thinking that she intended to write the entire novel from the viewpoint of a bigoted yahoo who was doomed to
    never learn any better -- and she was working *way* too hard at it.
    But the viewpoint changed in Chapter Two, and at page 93 of 169, I'm
    quite engaged.

    --------------

    The book has been back in the library for some time.

    Another barrier to getting into the first chapter: There was extended discussion of someone "prone on his back". No hint that it was meant
    to show a change in the language or to characterize the speakers.
    Today I have learned that "prone" strictly means
    lying front down, and a word for lying front up
    is "supine", but is that the problem? And how
    did I not know it before?

    Consulting Wikipedia's summary of the book,
    I note that as I understand it, Earth humans
    basically can't be face down and front up and
    in one functioning piece, but perhaps the people
    of Athshe can. But I think it's not about the head
    position, anyway.

    "Athshe" looks like sneezing with a lisp.

    I suppose that an Earth person can be prone on
    someone else's back - if they both are prone?

    I'm prone not to worry about niggling vocabulary
    errors.

    Pt

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  • From Jack Bohn@21:1/5 to pete...@gmail.com on Sun Oct 15 08:53:31 2023
    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 11:04:43 AM UTC-4, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 7:04:57 AM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie wrote:
    On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 09:05:44 UTC+1, Joy Beeson wrote:

    I've been hearing of _The Word for World is Forest_ for decades, and decided it was time to read it.
    Another barrier to getting into the first chapter: There was extended discussion of someone "prone on his back". No hint that it was meant
    to show a change in the language or to characterize the speakers.

    Today I have learned that "prone" strictly means
    lying front down, and a word for lying front up
    is "supine", but is that the problem? And how
    did I not know it before?

    Consulting Wikipedia's summary of the book,
    I note that as I understand it, Earth humans
    basically can't be face down and front up and
    in one functioning piece, but perhaps the people
    of Athshe can. But I think it's not about the head
    position, anyway.


    I suppose that an Earth person can be prone on
    someone else's back - if they both are prone?

    I'm prone not to worry about niggling vocabulary
    errors.

    Sounds like you're lying down on the job.

    --
    -Jack

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to pete...@gmail.com on Sun Oct 15 16:21:54 2023
    "pete...@gmail.com" <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 7:04:57=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie wr= >ote:
    On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 09:05:44 UTC+1, Joy Beeson wrote:=20
    While in the library for something else, I thought I'd check out one=20
    of the library-bound Nortons to save it from the next weeding.=20
    =20
    I was too late, but a book in the hard binding that libraries used to= >=20
    put on paperbacks to make them last longer caught my eye. (How many=20
    of you can remember when one could go to a library in search of books= >=20
    that were no longer available elsewhere?)=20
    =20
    I've been hearing of _The Word for World is Forest_ for decades, and=20
    decided it was time to read it.=20
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    I was rather put off at first, thinking that she intended to write the= >=20
    entire novel from the viewpoint of a bigoted yahoo who was doomed to=20
    never learn any better -- and she was working *way* too hard at it.=20
    But the viewpoint changed in Chapter Two, and at page 93 of 169, I'm=20
    quite engaged.=20
    =20
    --------------=20
    =20
    The book has been back in the library for some time.=20
    =20
    Another barrier to getting into the first chapter: There was extended= >=20
    discussion of someone "prone on his back". No hint that it was meant=20
    to show a change in the language or to characterize the speakers.
    Today I have learned that "prone" strictly means=20
    lying front down, and a word for lying front up=20
    is "supine", but is that the problem? And how=20
    did I not know it before?=20
    =20
    Consulting Wikipedia's summary of the book,=20
    I note that as I understand it, Earth humans=20
    basically can't be face down and front up and=20
    in one functioning piece, but perhaps the people=20
    of Athshe can. But I think it's not about the head=20
    position, anyway.=20
    =20
    "Athshe" looks like sneezing with a lisp.=20
    =20
    I suppose that an Earth person can be prone on=20
    someone else's back - if they both are prone?

    I'm prone not to worry about niggling vocabulary
    errors.

    Pt

    That's a rather supine position to take on the issue.

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  • From artyw2@yahoo.com@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Mon Oct 16 17:02:42 2023
    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 12:21:59 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:

    Another barrier to getting into the first chapter: There was extended= >=20
    discussion of someone "prone on his back". No hint that it was meant=20 >> > to show a change in the language or to characterize the speakers.
    Today I have learned that "prone" strictly means=20
    lying front down, and a word for lying front up=20
    is "supine", but is that the problem? And how=20
    did I not know it before?=20
    =20
    Consulting Wikipedia's summary of the book,=20
    I note that as I understand it, Earth humans=20
    basically can't be face down and front up and=20
    in one functioning piece, but perhaps the people=20
    of Athshe can. But I think it's not about the head=20
    position, anyway.=20
    =20
    "Athshe" looks like sneezing with a lisp.=20
    =20
    I suppose that an Earth person can be prone on=20
    someone else's back - if they both are prone?

    I'm prone not to worry about niggling vocabulary
    errors.

    Pt
    That's a rather supine position to take on the issue.

    Enough with the internet prone.

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