• A Cantankerous Curmudgeon is Appalled

    From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 14 09:53:51 2023
    No posts in the last 12 hours!?

    Ryk Spoor (aka Seawasp) mentioned on his website several months ago that
    he had a new publisher (Untreed Reads), but their website still doesn't
    mention him. Does anybody have more information?

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    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. ‹-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to Robert Woodward on Sat Oct 14 13:17:06 2023
    On 10/14/2023 11:53 AM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    No posts in the last 12 hours!?

    Ryk Spoor (aka Seawasp) mentioned on his website several months ago that
    he had a new publisher (Untreed Reads), but their website still doesn't mention him. Does anybody have more information?

    I am noticing that there are multitudinous new publishers. It seems
    that most of them actually publish ebooks to mostly Amazon and dead tree
    books through Amazon's Createspace POD (print on demand) service.

    I remember some twenty odd years ago that B&N was planning on putting a
    POD service in each of their stores. You would buy the display book and
    they would print a new book to replace the display book. The
    maintenance requirements of the POD machinery seems to have killed that business plan off.

    Lynn

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Sat Oct 14 18:26:11 2023
    In article <ugelv4$2b4$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/14/2023 11:53 AM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    No posts in the last 12 hours!?

    Ryk Spoor (aka Seawasp) mentioned on his website several months ago that
    he had a new publisher (Untreed Reads), but their website still doesn't
    mention him. Does anybody have more information?

    I am noticing that there are multitudinous new publishers. It seems
    that most of them actually publish ebooks to mostly Amazon and dead tree >books through Amazon's Createspace POD (print on demand) service.

    I remember some twenty odd years ago that B&N was planning on putting a
    POD service in each of their stores. You would buy the display book and
    they would print a new book to replace the display book. The
    maintenance requirements of the POD machinery seems to have killed that >business plan off.


    ICOD: McDonalds could have told them!
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 14 13:27:07 2023
    On 10/14/2023 11:26 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <ugelv4$2b4$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/14/2023 11:53 AM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    No posts in the last 12 hours!?

    Ryk Spoor (aka Seawasp) mentioned on his website several months ago that >>> he had a new publisher (Untreed Reads), but their website still doesn't
    mention him. Does anybody have more information?

    I am noticing that there are multitudinous new publishers. It seems
    that most of them actually publish ebooks to mostly Amazon and dead tree
    books through Amazon's Createspace POD (print on demand) service.

    I remember some twenty odd years ago that B&N was planning on putting a
    POD service in each of their stores. You would buy the display book and
    they would print a new book to replace the display book. The
    maintenance requirements of the POD machinery seems to have killed that
    business plan off.


    ICOD: McDonalds could have told them!

    That's why the frostie machines are always out of order at McD's.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Sat Oct 14 19:17:02 2023
    On 10/14/2023 3:27 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 10/14/2023 11:26 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <ugelv4$2b4$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire  <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/14/2023 11:53 AM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    No posts in the last 12 hours!?

    Ryk Spoor (aka Seawasp) mentioned on his website several months ago
    that
    he had a new publisher (Untreed Reads), but their website still doesn't >>>> mention him. Does anybody have more information?

    I am noticing that there are multitudinous new publishers.  It seems
    that most of them actually publish ebooks to mostly Amazon and dead tree >>> books through Amazon's Createspace POD (print on demand) service.

    I remember some twenty odd years ago that B&N was planning on putting a
    POD service in each of their stores.  You would buy the display book and >>> they would print a new book to replace the display book.  The
    maintenance requirements of the POD machinery seems to have killed that
    business plan off.


    ICOD: McDonalds could have told them!

    That's why the frostie machines are always out of order at McD's.

    But the ice cream machines works fine at Chikfila for my weekly cone.

    Lynn

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  • From Jay E. Morris@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Sat Oct 14 20:20:54 2023
    On 10/14/2023 7:17 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 10/14/2023 3:27 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 10/14/2023 11:26 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <ugelv4$2b4$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire  <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/14/2023 11:53 AM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    No posts in the last 12 hours!?

    Ryk Spoor (aka Seawasp) mentioned on his website several months ago
    that
    he had a new publisher (Untreed Reads), but their website still
    doesn't
    mention him. Does anybody have more information?

    I am noticing that there are multitudinous new publishers.  It seems
    that most of them actually publish ebooks to mostly Amazon and dead
    tree
    books through Amazon's Createspace POD (print on demand) service.

    I remember some twenty odd years ago that B&N was planning on putting a >>>> POD service in each of their stores.  You would buy the display book
    and
    they would print a new book to replace the display book.  The
    maintenance requirements of the POD machinery seems to have killed that >>>> business plan off.


    ICOD: McDonalds could have told them!

    That's why the frostie machines are always out of order at McD's.

    But the ice cream machines works fine at Chikfila for my weekly cone.

    Lynn


    McD has some sort of proprietary ice cream maker that has a convoluted
    cleaning process and can only be repaired by manufacturer's technicians.

    But if you want to check on the status of a McD ice cream machine you
    can use https://mcbroken.com/

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to Jay E. Morris on Sat Oct 14 22:12:06 2023
    On 10/14/2023 8:20 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
    On 10/14/2023 7:17 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 10/14/2023 3:27 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 10/14/2023 11:26 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <ugelv4$2b4$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire  <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/14/2023 11:53 AM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    No posts in the last 12 hours!?

    Ryk Spoor (aka Seawasp) mentioned on his website several months
    ago that
    he had a new publisher (Untreed Reads), but their website still
    doesn't
    mention him. Does anybody have more information?

    I am noticing that there are multitudinous new publishers.  It seems >>>>> that most of them actually publish ebooks to mostly Amazon and dead
    tree
    books through Amazon's Createspace POD (print on demand) service.

    I remember some twenty odd years ago that B&N was planning on
    putting a
    POD service in each of their stores.  You would buy the display
    book and
    they would print a new book to replace the display book.  The
    maintenance requirements of the POD machinery seems to have killed
    that
    business plan off.


    ICOD: McDonalds could have told them!

    That's why the frostie machines are always out of order at McD's.

    But the ice cream machines works fine at Chikfila for my weekly cone.

    Lynn


    McD has some sort of proprietary ice cream maker that has a convoluted cleaning process and can only be repaired by manufacturer's technicians.

    But if you want to check on the status of a McD ice cream machine you
    can use https://mcbroken.com/

    Cool, the McDonalds on the farm road to my house has a broken ice cream machine. I am not surprised.

    However, Chikfila's cones are so much better. It is worth going another
    ten miles further. Luckily, I just have to go another three miles further.

    Lynn

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  • From David Duffy@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Sun Oct 15 05:15:12 2023
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/14/2023 8:20 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
    On 10/14/2023 7:17 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 10/14/2023 3:27 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 10/14/2023 11:26 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <ugelv4$2b4$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire  <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/14/2023 11:53 AM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    books through Amazon's Createspace POD (print on demand) service.
    ICOD: McDonalds could have told them!
    That's why the frostie machines are always out of order at McD's.
    But the ice cream machines works fine at Chikfila for my weekly cone.
    But if you want to check on the status of a McD ice cream machine you
    can use https://mcbroken.com/
    Cool, the McDonalds on the farm road to my house has a broken ice cream machine. I am not surprised.

    One of our local cafes has a print-on-demand coffee froth printer which customers
    can command using an app. We got the default seahorse.

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  • From Torbjorn Lindgren@21:1/5 to Jay E. Morris on Sun Oct 15 16:23:45 2023
    Jay E. Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
    McD has some sort of proprietary ice cream maker that has a convoluted >cleaning process and can only be repaired by manufacturer's technicians.

    And crucially, the ice cream machine vendor MAKES MONEY on the repair
    and maintenance. Probably a lot more than what they make on the
    machines.

    Normally this would result in everyone switching to a different
    vendor/machine that isn't complete crap, but McD require this specific
    machine, you can't be a McDonalds franchise in the US without it.

    As I understand it the vendor in question even have other ice creame
    machines that doesn't break down all the time and are user serviceable
    so they can compete on the wider market! So there's no inherent
    technical reason why it's so bad.

    But it doesn't cost McDonalds themselve money and the franchise takers
    are forced to use it so there's no pressure back on the vendor to
    improve the machines or even just making the error codes
    understandable - and they will sue anyone that makes it easier.

    Exactly why McDonalds does this has never been proven, but most
    speculations are that they get something back from the machine vendor,
    perhaps a share of the repair money. Or perhaps it's some kind of
    "same owner" cooperation to fleece them. "Just to be evil" has also
    been proposed but most think they would have found a way to profit
    from it.

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to Torbjorn Lindgren on Mon Oct 16 20:07:01 2023
    On 10/15/2023 11:23 AM, Torbjorn Lindgren wrote:
    Jay E. Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
    McD has some sort of proprietary ice cream maker that has a convoluted
    cleaning process and can only be repaired by manufacturer's technicians.

    And crucially, the ice cream machine vendor MAKES MONEY on the repair
    and maintenance. Probably a lot more than what they make on the
    machines.

    Normally this would result in everyone switching to a different vendor/machine that isn't complete crap, but McD require this specific machine, you can't be a McDonalds franchise in the US without it.

    As I understand it the vendor in question even have other ice creame
    machines that doesn't break down all the time and are user serviceable
    so they can compete on the wider market! So there's no inherent
    technical reason why it's so bad.

    But it doesn't cost McDonalds themselve money and the franchise takers
    are forced to use it so there's no pressure back on the vendor to
    improve the machines or even just making the error codes
    understandable - and they will sue anyone that makes it easier.

    Exactly why McDonalds does this has never been proven, but most
    speculations are that they get something back from the machine vendor, perhaps a share of the repair money. Or perhaps it's some kind of
    "same owner" cooperation to fleece them. "Just to be evil" has also
    been proposed but most think they would have found a way to profit
    from it.

    McDonalds primary goal in life is to be a real estate owner. Almost all
    of the McDonalds restaurant's lots are owned by the McDonalds
    Corporation. It is also how they control the franchisees, violate your agreement and out on the street you go.

    Lynn

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to tl@none.invalid on Tue Oct 17 08:59:19 2023
    On Sun, 15 Oct 2023 16:23:45 -0000 (UTC), Torbjorn Lindgren
    <tl@none.invalid> wrote:

    Jay E. Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
    McD has some sort of proprietary ice cream maker that has a convoluted >>cleaning process and can only be repaired by manufacturer's technicians.

    And crucially, the ice cream machine vendor MAKES MONEY on the repair
    and maintenance. Probably a lot more than what they make on the
    machines.

    Normally this would result in everyone switching to a different >vendor/machine that isn't complete crap, but McD require this specific >machine, you can't be a McDonalds franchise in the US without it.

    As I understand it the vendor in question even have other ice creame
    machines that doesn't break down all the time and are user serviceable
    so they can compete on the wider market! So there's no inherent
    technical reason why it's so bad.

    But it doesn't cost McDonalds themselve money and the franchise takers
    are forced to use it so there's no pressure back on the vendor to
    improve the machines or even just making the error codes
    understandable - and they will sue anyone that makes it easier.

    Exactly why McDonalds does this has never been proven, but most
    speculations are that they get something back from the machine vendor, >perhaps a share of the repair money. Or perhaps it's some kind of
    "same owner" cooperation to fleece them. "Just to be evil" has also
    been proposed but most think they would have found a way to profit
    from it.

    It's called "capitalism".

    Nothing new here.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to Robert Woodward on Tue Oct 17 21:58:37 2023
    In article <robertaw-095F3E.09535114102023@news.individual.net>,
    Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:

    No posts in the last 12 hours!?

    Ryk Spoor (aka Seawasp) mentioned on his website several months ago that
    he had a new publisher (Untreed Reads), but their website still doesn't mention him. Does anybody have more information?

    As a followup, his email for a Kickstarter project mentioned that his
    new publisher has re-released his Demons of the Past trilogy and a brand
    new book. The Demons of the Past trilogy now shows up in Apple's Books
    store (but not the new book, which Amazon's Kindle store does have).
    OTOH, the Untreed Reads website still doesn't mention him.

    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. ‹-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to Robert Woodward on Wed Oct 18 22:01:20 2023
    In article <robertaw-98CC02.21583717102023@news.individual.net>,
    Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:

    In article <robertaw-095F3E.09535114102023@news.individual.net>,
    Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:

    No posts in the last 12 hours!?

    Ryk Spoor (aka Seawasp) mentioned on his website several months ago that
    he had a new publisher (Untreed Reads), but their website still doesn't mention him. Does anybody have more information?

    As a followup, his email for a Kickstarter project mentioned that his
    new publisher has re-released his Demons of the Past trilogy and a brand
    new book. The Demons of the Past trilogy now shows up in Apple's Books
    store (but not the new book, which Amazon's Kindle store does have).
    OTOH, the Untreed Reads website still doesn't mention him.

    Oops. I thought I saw the Demons of the Past books in the Apple store,
    but they don't show up now.

    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. ‹-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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