• The KTMA MST3K episodes get potty mouthed with four letter words that t

    From weary flake@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 5 01:43:55 2020
    The 1980's broadcast KTMA MST3K episodes get potty-mouthed that
    the more familiar later cable episodes don't. Crude d--- jokes
    in KTMA episode 5 Gamera, if I recall correctly, and other episodes
    have things like the word s--- muted by the TV broadcast but then
    said in the clear by the bots in Hangar 18. There's also the mods
    and bots repeating a riff on the credit name "Butkus" and said in
    a manner that evokes "b--- kiss" or "f--- this" in SuperDome.
    There's probably other dirty language that I haven't seen yet.

    Thank goodness that cable cleaned up the filth of broadcast TV!

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  • From Bice@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 6 12:20:05 2020
    On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 01:43:55 -0800, weary flake <wearyflake@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    The 1980's broadcast KTMA MST3K episodes get potty-mouthed that
    the more familiar later cable episodes don't. Crude d--- jokes
    in KTMA episode 5 Gamera, if I recall correctly, and other episodes
    have things like the word s--- muted by the TV broadcast but then
    said in the clear by the bots in Hangar 18. There's also the mods
    and bots repeating a riff on the credit name "Butkus" and said in
    a manner that evokes "b--- kiss" or "f--- this" in SuperDome.
    There's probably other dirty language that I haven't seen yet.


    I'm pretty sure it was a KTMA episode where one of the bots said
    something about Deep Woods Off, and Joel replied "When you're deep in
    the woods, you can't beat off". Stupid, but it made me laugh.

    -- Bob

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  • From weary flake@21:1/5 to Bice on Mon Jan 6 18:13:02 2020
    On 2020-01-06 12:20:05 +0000, Bice said:

    On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 01:43:55 -0800, weary flake <wearyflake@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    The 1980's broadcast KTMA MST3K episodes get potty-mouthed that
    the more familiar later cable episodes don't. Crude d--- jokes
    in KTMA episode 5 Gamera, if I recall correctly, and other episodes
    have things like the word s--- muted by the TV broadcast but then
    said in the clear by the bots in Hangar 18. There's also the mods
    and bots repeating a riff on the credit name "Butkus" and said in
    a manner that evokes "b--- kiss" or "f--- this" in SuperDome.
    There's probably other dirty language that I haven't seen yet.


    I'm pretty sure it was a KTMA episode where one of the bots said
    something about Deep Woods Off, and Joel replied "When you're deep in
    the woods, you can't beat off". Stupid, but it made me laugh.

    That sounds familiar, was that in the KTMA of Year Of The Apes?

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  • From weary flake@21:1/5 to weary flake on Tue Jan 7 00:48:28 2020
    On 2020-01-07 02:13:02 +0000, weary flake said:

    On 2020-01-06 12:20:05 +0000, Bice said:

    On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 01:43:55 -0800, weary flake <wearyflake@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    The 1980's broadcast KTMA MST3K episodes get potty-mouthed that
    the more familiar later cable episodes don't. Crude d--- jokes
    in KTMA episode 5 Gamera, if I recall correctly, and other episodes
    have things like the word s--- muted by the TV broadcast but then
    said in the clear by the bots in Hangar 18. There's also the mods
    and bots repeating a riff on the credit name "Butkus" and said in
    a manner that evokes "b--- kiss" or "f--- this" in SuperDome.
    There's probably other dirty language that I haven't seen yet.


    I'm pretty sure it was a KTMA episode where one of the bots said
    something about Deep Woods Off, and Joel replied "When you're deep in
    the woods, you can't beat off". Stupid, but it made me laugh.

    That sounds familiar, was that in the KTMA of Year Of The Apes?

    I meant Time Of The Apes

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  • From Bice@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 7 22:06:28 2020
    On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 00:48:28 -0800, weary flake <wearyflake@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 2020-01-07 02:13:02 +0000, weary flake said:

    On 2020-01-06 12:20:05 +0000, Bice said:

    On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 01:43:55 -0800, weary flake <wearyflake@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    The 1980's broadcast KTMA MST3K episodes get potty-mouthed that
    the more familiar later cable episodes don't. Crude d--- jokes
    in KTMA episode 5 Gamera, if I recall correctly, and other episodes
    have things like the word s--- muted by the TV broadcast but then
    said in the clear by the bots in Hangar 18. There's also the mods
    and bots repeating a riff on the credit name "Butkus" and said in
    a manner that evokes "b--- kiss" or "f--- this" in SuperDome.
    There's probably other dirty language that I haven't seen yet.


    I'm pretty sure it was a KTMA episode where one of the bots said
    something about Deep Woods Off, and Joel replied "When you're deep in
    the woods, you can't beat off". Stupid, but it made me laugh.

    That sounds familiar, was that in the KTMA of Year Of The Apes?

    I meant Time Of The Apes

    No idea. It's been decades since I've watched any of the KTMA
    episodes.

    Did anyone ever unearth the first few, or are they still the stuff of
    legends?

    -- Bob

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  • From weary flake@21:1/5 to Bice on Fri Jan 17 12:21:17 2020
    On 2020-01-07 22:06:28 +0000, Bice said:

    On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 00:48:28 -0800, weary flake <wearyflake@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 2020-01-07 02:13:02 +0000, weary flake said:

    On 2020-01-06 12:20:05 +0000, Bice said:

    On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 01:43:55 -0800, weary flake <wearyflake@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    The 1980's broadcast KTMA MST3K episodes get potty-mouthed that
    the more familiar later cable episodes don't. Crude d--- jokes
    in KTMA episode 5 Gamera, if I recall correctly, and other episodes
    have things like the word s--- muted by the TV broadcast but then
    said in the clear by the bots in Hangar 18. There's also the mods
    and bots repeating a riff on the credit name "Butkus" and said in
    a manner that evokes "b--- kiss" or "f--- this" in SuperDome.
    There's probably other dirty language that I haven't seen yet.


    I'm pretty sure it was a KTMA episode where one of the bots said
    something about Deep Woods Off, and Joel replied "When you're deep in
    the woods, you can't beat off". Stupid, but it made me laugh.

    That sounds familiar, was that in the KTMA of Year Of The Apes?

    I meant Time Of The Apes

    No idea. It's been decades since I've watched any of the KTMA
    episodes.

    And later in the KTMA Superdome episode there's a non-four letter gag when
    the narrator says something like "the fans have been pitching tents and
    camping out in excitement and anticipation of seeing the superbowl" and
    Joel says "they're excited if they're pitching tents".


    Did anyone ever unearth the first few, or are they still the stuff of legends?

    I wonder if the KTMA episodes all exist, and in better quality, but have
    been suppressed by an agreement with Comedy Central to forbid their
    rebroadcast or distribution. Comedy Central is more restrictive to what
    they can show than broadcast TV. They once reconstructed Cheech And Chong's Next Movie to remove all drug references in favor of "diamonds", while broadcast TV played the original.

    And of course the KTMA espisodes have some good gags, the sex jokes and
    four letter humor not being very good.

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  • From rdc@21:1/5 to weary flake on Mon Jan 20 14:39:16 2020
    On 2020-01-17 20:21:17 +0000, weary flake said:

    On 2020-01-07 22:06:28 +0000, Bice said:

    On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 00:48:28 -0800, weary flake <wearyflake@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 2020-01-07 02:13:02 +0000, weary flake said:

    On 2020-01-06 12:20:05 +0000, Bice said:

    On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 01:43:55 -0800, weary flake <wearyflake@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:

    The 1980's broadcast KTMA MST3K episodes get potty-mouthed that
    the more familiar later cable episodes don't. Crude d--- jokes
    in KTMA episode 5 Gamera, if I recall correctly, and other episodes >>>>>> have things like the word s--- muted by the TV broadcast but then
    said in the clear by the bots in Hangar 18. There's also the mods >>>>>> and bots repeating a riff on the credit name "Butkus" and said in
    a manner that evokes "b--- kiss" or "f--- this" in SuperDome.
    There's probably other dirty language that I haven't seen yet.


    I'm pretty sure it was a KTMA episode where one of the bots said
    something about Deep Woods Off, and Joel replied "When you're deep in >>>>> the woods, you can't beat off". Stupid, but it made me laugh.

    That sounds familiar, was that in the KTMA of Year Of The Apes?

    I meant Time Of The Apes

    No idea. It's been decades since I've watched any of the KTMA
    episodes.

    And later in the KTMA Superdome episode there's a non-four letter gag when the narrator says something like "the fans have been pitching tents and camping out in excitement and anticipation of seeing the superbowl" and
    Joel says "they're excited if they're pitching tents".


    Did anyone ever unearth the first few, or are they still the stuff of
    legends?

    I wonder if the KTMA episodes all exist, and in better quality, but have
    been suppressed by an agreement with Comedy Central to forbid their rebroadcast or distribution. Comedy Central is more restrictive to what
    they can show than broadcast TV. They once reconstructed Cheech And Chong's Next Movie to remove all drug references in favor of "diamonds", while broadcast TV played the original.

    And of course the KTMA espisodes have some good gags, the sex jokes and
    four letter humor not being very good.

    KTMA Episode 1: Invaders from the Deep
    KTMA Episode 2: Revenge of the Mysterons from Mars

    They came in the Bonus set of MST3Ks if you pitched in on the
    Kickstarter for Season 11.
    -
    rdc

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  • From Bice@21:1/5 to rdc on Tue Jan 21 21:29:57 2020
    On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 14:39:16 -0500, rdc <nah@idontthinkso.org> wrote:

    On 2020-01-17 20:21:17 +0000, weary flake said:

    On 2020-01-07 22:06:28 +0000, Bice said:

    Did anyone ever unearth the first few, or are they still the stuff of
    legends?

    I wonder if the KTMA episodes all exist, and in better quality, but have
    been suppressed by an agreement with Comedy Central to forbid their
    rebroadcast or distribution. Comedy Central is more restrictive to what
    they can show than broadcast TV. They once reconstructed Cheech And Chong's >> Next Movie to remove all drug references in favor of "diamonds", while
    broadcast TV played the original.

    And of course the KTMA espisodes have some good gags, the sex jokes and
    four letter humor not being very good.

    KTMA Episode 1: Invaders from the Deep
    KTMA Episode 2: Revenge of the Mysterons from Mars

    They came in the Bonus set of MST3Ks if you pitched in on the
    Kickstarter for Season 11.


    Wow, really? So they do exist and fans have seen them? Damn, now I'm
    really wishing I had contributed to the Kickstarter campaign and
    didn't just wait until you could buy the boxed set of Season 11.

    Or are you just making that up? I could swear that I read the fine
    print of that Kickstarter campaign pretty thoroughly and I don't
    remember seeing early KTMAs included in the rewards.

    -- Bob

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  • From rdc@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 24 17:01:43 2020
    KTMA Episode 1: Invaders from the Deep
    KTMA Episode 2: Revenge of the Mysterons from Mars

    They came in the Bonus set of MST3Ks if you pitched in on the
    Kickstarter for Season 11.


    Wow, really? So they do exist and fans have seen them? Damn, now I'm
    really wishing I had contributed to the Kickstarter campaign and
    didn't just wait until you could buy the boxed set of Season 11.

    Or are you just making that up? I could swear that I read the fine
    print of that Kickstarter campaign pretty thoroughly and I don't
    remember seeing early KTMAs included in the rewards.

    Nah, not making anything up--trolling the Usenet seems pretty far down
    the priority list at the moment.

    There were basically two sets of bonus episodes--there were about 40%
    of the MST3K in 540p resolution (I would prefer 720, but really, they
    are a damned sight better than the 320ps I had that were burned off of videotape in the MST3K Preservation Society downloads). Then, they
    added another dozen or so episodes with the KTMAs--let me check the
    colleciton real quick here...


    K00: Green Slime (I had that one already--I think it was basically the pilot). K01: Invades from the Deep in 540p.
    K02: Revenge of the Mysterons from Mars in 540p--as a fan of Captain
    Scarlet in elementary school, I will bet a mortgage payment that the
    baddies in the title should be "Mysterions". But, hey, whatever.

    None of the other KTMAs were included in the bonus sets. I don't
    recall that during the Kickstarter that they listed the episodes
    available as a reward bonus, so I can't speak to that.

    Also, for completeness sake, for the first season they also included in
    540p The Crawling Eye, The Robot vs. the Aztec Mummy (an absolutely
    cruddy version), Mad Monster, The Corpse Vanishes, Robot Monster
    (because of course they had to), The Slime People, Robot Holocaust,
    Moon AZero Two, Untamed Youth, and The Black Scorpion. I also believe
    it to be the worst of omissions that Rocketship X-M was not included as
    that is one of my favorites.
    -
    rdc.

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  • From Adam Sampson@21:1/5 to rdc on Sat Jan 25 02:17:55 2020
    rdc <nah@idontthinkso.org> writes:

    None of the other KTMAs were included in the bonus sets. I don't
    recall that during the Kickstarter that they listed the episodes
    available as a reward bonus, so I can't speak to that.

    Looking back through the Kickstarter email, the KTMA episodes were
    announced by Joel in update #41 on 25th Nov 2016:

    | So yeah, some of you already guessed it, but let's make it official:
    |
    | I'm happy to tell you that we finally found master tapes for two of
    | the three "lost KTMA episodes" of *MST3K*: *Invaders from the Deep*,
    | and *Revenge of the Mysterons from Mars.*
    |
    | I actually thought we had discovered copies of these episodes at one
    | point during the Kickstarter last year, and I was really excited that
    | I'd be able to finally share them with you... and then it turned out
    | that we hadn't found them, and it was a real bummer. But then, earlier
    | this year, a few final boxes turned up. And there they were: the *very
    | first episodes* of MST3K ever made.
    |
    | So yeah: If your Kickstarter rewards include any of the "Classic MST3K
    | Bonus Episodes", the two "lost episodes" are now waiting for you - a
    | special "Happy Turkey Day" present from all of us at MST3K. (Just
    | remember, though, these are *really* old episodes, so I hope you can
    | look at them like a "first draft" of what the show would turn into.)

    The list of classic episodes wasn't announced originally -- "Don't
    worry, I'll pick some great episodes for you." It started out as 3
    episodes then grew as the number of new episodes grew...

    --
    Adam Sampson <ats@offog.org> <http://offog.org/>

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  • From Bice@21:1/5 to rdc on Mon Jan 27 19:28:33 2020
    On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 17:01:43 -0500, rdc <nah@idontthinkso.org> wrote:

    KTMA Episode 1: Invaders from the Deep
    KTMA Episode 2: Revenge of the Mysterons from Mars


    There were basically two sets of bonus episodes--there were about 40%
    of the MST3K in 540p resolution (I would prefer 720, but really, they
    are a damned sight better than the 320ps I had that were burned off of >videotape in the MST3K Preservation Society downloads). Then, they
    added another dozen or so episodes with the KTMAs--let me check the >colleciton real quick here...

    OK, then the question becomes, for those who didn't participate in the kickstarter, is there any (preferrably legal) way to watch those two
    episodes? I just did some googling, and all I could turn up was the
    site https://mst3k.vhx.tv that has the two episodes, but they want,
    get this, $999,999 to watch each episode. Since I don't have a spare
    couple million dollars lying around, that ain't happening.

    -- Bob

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  • From rdc@21:1/5 to Bice on Mon Jan 27 16:36:18 2020
    On 2020-01-27 19:28:33 +0000, Bice said:

    On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 17:01:43 -0500, rdc <nah@idontthinkso.org> wrote:

    KTMA Episode 1: Invaders from the Deep
    KTMA Episode 2: Revenge of the Mysterons from Mars


    There were basically two sets of bonus episodes--there were about 40%
    of the MST3K in 540p resolution (I would prefer 720, but really, they
    are a damned sight better than the 320ps I had that were burned off of
    videotape in the MST3K Preservation Society downloads). Then, they
    added another dozen or so episodes with the KTMAs--let me check the
    colleciton real quick here...

    OK, then the question becomes, for those who didn't participate in the kickstarter, is there any (preferrably legal) way to watch those two episodes? I just did some googling, and all I could turn up was the
    site https://mst3k.vhx.tv that has the two episodes, but they want,
    get this, $999,999 to watch each episode. Since I don't have a spare
    couple million dollars lying around, that ain't happening.

    -- Bob

    Yeah, that does seem kind of pricey, doesn't it?

    For what it's worth, that was the site that was used to allow the
    kickstart people to download the bonus episodes. I vaugely remember
    something about them costing $999 each, like the price point was set
    there so that it was easier to flag those episodes for download by the kicksterters, or something similar.

    Honestly, I'm kind of surprised that the 540p episodes haven't been
    uploaded here or to the other two MST3K groups in the meantime.
    -
    rdc

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  • From Bice@21:1/5 to rdc on Tue Jan 28 21:51:04 2020
    On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 16:36:18 -0500, rdc <nah@idontthinkso.org> wrote:

    On 2020-01-27 19:28:33 +0000, Bice said:

    On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 17:01:43 -0500, rdc <nah@idontthinkso.org> wrote:

    KTMA Episode 1: Invaders from the Deep
    KTMA Episode 2: Revenge of the Mysterons from Mars


    Honestly, I'm kind of surprised that the 540p episodes haven't been
    uploaded here or to the other two MST3K groups in the meantime.

    I have no idea of the legality of this, but I eventually found KTAM 1
    & 2 up on Archive.org. They were uploaded almost a year ago, so I'm
    guessing if the powers that be didn't want them up there, they would
    have been taken down by now.

    I'm watching Invaders from the Deep and they were clearly still
    working out the format - Joel's the only one in the theater and for
    the most part he just sits there watching the movie. I don't think he
    made more than a half dozen comments between the beginning of the
    movie and the first commercial break.

    -- Bob

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