• [O'Reilly Factor] The second debate, who won?

    From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 13 05:00:00 2016
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    There was high drama last night because Donald Trump was on the
    ropes. The vulgar tape and the wall to wall reporting of it had the
    Republican candidate in a very bad place. But Trump somehow against
    all odds won the debate. He won because Secretary Clinton could not
    knock him out and after the first 30 minutes, Trump went on offense,
    regaining at least some momentum. Here's how it went down. The
    debate opened with no hand shake. Then, Secretary Clinton fired the
    first round.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    CLINTON: What we all saw and heard on Friday was Donald talking
    about women, what he thinks about women, what he does to women and
    he has said that the video doesn't represent who he is. But I think
    it's clear to anyone who heard it that it represents exactly who he
    is. But it's not only women and it's not only this video that raises
    questions about his fitness to be our president. Because he has also
    targeted immigrants, African-Americans, Latinos, people with
    disabilities, P.O.W.s, Muslims and so many others.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: Trump answered with a strategy he has used before.


    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    TRUMP: Bill Clinton was abusive to women. Hillary Clinton attacked
    those same women. And attacked them viciously. Four of them here
    tonight. One of the women who is a wonderful woman, at 12 years old
    was raped at 12. Her client, she represented got him off.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: The story here is that in 1975, an Arkansas Judge
    appointed Hillary Clinton to represent accused child rapist Thomas
    Taylor. Counselor Clinton was successful in raising doubt and Taylor
    pled out to unlawful fondling of a child. Serving just one year in
    jail. The victim, Kathy Shelton appeared with Donald Trump in a
    press conference just prior to the debate saying the way Mrs.
    Clinton treated her when she was 12-years-old damaged her for life.
    Trump then pounded home the theme that Mrs. Clinton's past record
    makes her a hypocrite on the woman abuse issue.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    TRUMP: When Hillary brings up the point like that and she talks
    about words that I said 11 years ago, I think it's disgraceful and I
    think she should be ashamed of herself if you want to know the
    truth.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: Mrs. Clinton jumped on that saying that Trump is never
    contrite.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    CLINTON: He never apologizes for anything to anyone. He never
    apologized to Mr. and Mrs. Khan, the Gold Star family whose son
    Captain Khan died in the line of duty in Iraq and Donald insulted
    and attacked them for weeks over their religion. And he never
    apologized for the racist lie that President Obama was not born in
    the United States of America. He owes the president an apology.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: Mr. Trump seized upon the Obama reference to lob this
    grenade.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    TRUMP: Michelle Obama, I've gotten to see the commercials that they
    did on you. And I've got on the see some of the most vicious
    commercials I have ever seen of Michelle Obama talking about you,
    Hillary.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: And that reference is to the Clinton/Obama primary race of
    2008 when Mrs. Obama said this.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    MICHELLE OBAMA, UNITED STATES FIRST LADY: One of the things, the
    important aspects of this race is role modeling what good families
    should look like. And my view is that if you can't run your own
    house, you certainly can't run the White House. Can't do it.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: So after about 30 minutes of personal attacks, Trump was
    still standing, a win for him. Then, came more personal attacks.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    TRUMP: If I win, I am going to instruct my Attorney General to get a
    special prosecutor to look into your situation because there has
    never been so many lies, so much deception. There has never been
    anything like it and we're going to have a special prosecutor.

    CLINTON: It is just awfully good that someone with the temperament
    of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our country.

    TRUMP: Because you'd be in jail.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: That quip about the e-mail situation angered some on the
    left. A CNN reporter compared it to something Hitler and Stalin
    might say. A bit hysterical to say the least. We'll show you the
    clip later on. After about one hour, it was obvious that Donald
    Trump had done enough to survive, to live to fight another day. It's
    not that Hillary Clinton did anything poorly. But she has a tough
    road with the chaos overseas, the impending collapse of ObamaCare,
    the e-mail fiasco and her attachment to Barack Obama's policies with
    about two thirds of Americans believing the country is going is
    going in the wrong direction, Secretary Clinton is a soft target on
    policy.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    TRUMP: If she's president of the United States, nothing is going to
    happen. It's just going to be talk.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: But Mrs. Clinton does have a record in Congress which he
    pointed out.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    CLINTON: Four hundred pieces of legislation have my name on it as a
    sponsor or co-sponsor when I was a senator for eight years. I worked
    very hard and was very proud to be re-elected in New York by an even
    bigger margin than I had been elected the first time.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: Now, as the debate drew to a close, there were two things
    apparent to fair-minded people. Hillary Clinton did not hurt herself
    and will remain the front-runner. But Donald Trump in a very
    difficult spot was able to stand his ground, defend himself and make
    some policy points that resonated. He's still in it and that in
    itself after all that happened over the weekend is a major victory
    for him. And that's "The Memo".

    --
    "Gotta have them ribs and pussy too!"
    -- Barack Obama

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Sun Oct 16 21:44:35 2016
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    Ubiquitous wrote:
    There was high drama last night because Donald Trump was on the
    ropes.

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